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reacted to this news just moments ago. >> the mass murderers who murdered thousands of israelis and kidnapped hundreds of our citizen was eliminated today by our heroic soldiers. i call on everyone who hold our hostages let me whole slew weapon and return our hostages. we will allow him to go out and leave in the same way i say, whoever harm or stitches blood on his head, we will reckon with them we're joined now by idf international spokesperson, major doron spielman, major. >> thank you so much for being with us. our reporting indicates that this operation was not specifically targeting the leader of hamas, that idf soldiers came upon him randomly. can you give us details as to how the operation was carried out and when the idea first suspected that they had struck yahya sinwar sure. >> first of all, thank you for

having me, boris, this is certainly an evening here in israel that is incredibly symbolic. it was just over a year ago and the same holiday of sukkot this is the last day of sokoto, a year ago when the terror attack that was planned by yes, sinwar. the same attack that left women raped brutally murdered men, women, and children and babies, hundred and one of which are still in gaza was carried out. and it was today, which in which we discovered the news, the great news that yahya sinwar and enemy of mankind, was in fact eliminated the way that this came about was the idf has been acting on very precise intelligence in southern gaza. this is the area of rafah, not far from the border with egypt in which we understood that there were very senior terrorist commanders including sinwar in the area, possibly also hostages in the area. i'll remind you that this was a place that just three weeks ago, very, very close to the

place where six hostages, including an american, were we're really just murdered at point blank range. and that is where our troops came under fire. they were both grounds troops and tanks, troops from a building where they identified three terrorists. they the tank fire at the building and our troops fired at the building. and later when our ground troops went to scan the building and see what had happened, they discover the aka sinwar was there. he was found with documents with money amidst the rubble, which is a fitting and for a man who left his humanity behind and just came out to kill israelis to see him like this isn't in fact a day of quiet celebration in israel because we still have 101 hostages in gaza this and we're, we've been watching video from tel aviv and people are gathering there it is something for them, certainly to celebrate in this. >> they're very happy about this news can you tell us a little bit major about the

timing between when they the strike occurred, which was as we understand, a tank mortar and correct me if i'm wrong in any of these details and then the details of what happened from that that there was some sort of drone that was used. was that because this area was booby trapped, what did the drone show and also the photos that we're seeing is that the state of the building at the time or was there some debris removed to verify the identity of sinwar? you take us through all of that sure so earlier today, again, our forces have been operating in southern gaza looking for terrorists that we have to understand the landscape here. >> this is landscape of an urban setting. their buildings and shells of buildings in which terrorists pop still out of tunnels. and fire at idf troops. so there is a great concern for him for the lives

of our troops. we use a lot of different surveillance methods and try to prevent obviously any harm coming to our troops there was we did come on fire from this building at which time, using a series of technology, we identified the three terrorist inside. we did not know with certainty that one of them was yahya sinwar and then we returned fire. the tank fired, and then there's a period by which you cannot just walk into a building and id, you have to clear the area. there could be multiple terrorist, it could even be an ambush. and so very carefully, our troops moved into the building. these are special troops who've come under fire from hamas terrorists operating in tunnels for over a year. eventually when they identify that the building was safe to enter, they came inside and they saw him in the rubble. at which point they saw resemblance. but as we know, it's taken a number of hours. we match both dental records and his dna. and if we want to try to remember how we have these brianna, as you know, which is that yahya sinwar said in israeli jails, more than ten years in fact, he was operated

on a life-threatening brain tumor by israel. israel saved his life. and then he was released in a hostage deal in 2011. and the only way of course if he paid back israel was carrying out this terror attack. if i could just add one more thing, the whole goal of our operating in this area has been to force similar more in other commanders out of their bunkers using very precise intel and certain areas we were trying to force him in this case, it worked aboveground, moving so that they would make a mistake. and today's sinwar made his last mistake, which of course is a great thing for the people of israel, i think for people around the world as a symbol of evil has truly been brought to justice to the point you just made major and something you said a moment ago that this was near. were six hostages were recently executed in a tunnel. >> do you have any indication as to what his origin was where he came from and where he might have been heading it did and

why he was traveling with such an apparent light footprint if you were able to confirm before launching the attack that it was only three people and you determine that they were terrorists. >> there were no hostages around them. the speculation had been that he might be around a hostages or civilians forming some kind of human shield do you have any indication as to those details so there certainly is a theory and was a theory that he was operating in the area which is however, based on intel, we also knew that sinwar had been forced in recent weeks to change his location multiple times because they identified the idf was getting close. >> as we know, against six of our hostages, one american were for executed not far from where he was found. and our whole goal was in fact did cause him to leave that massive people ordered to flee. you cannot flee with all these people. he was found with three people, one of which is a person that has been by his side the entire time, which is the battalion

commander of the khan younis brigade. he was also killed in that rubble he traveled very, very lightning, lightly again, he dropped off the airways as we know, there were weeks that we do not know if sinwar was that are alive he knew that the more people around him, the more chances the idf would discover where he was. we turned that against them by trying to root him out literally like an underground rats. i'm sorry to say that is hiding under the ground that is burning under the gunman to scurrying from place to place, and eventually what he scurrying. you've got jim and that was the goal. and in fact, that is what worked in his light, his, his his hampering has been very, very light but as we can and c, we managed to eliminate yahya sinwar. we eliminate his number two, mohammed deif. we eliminated the previous studies. now haniah in lebanon and hassan nasrallah and i think the message that israel is sending that is very, very clear. anyone, anyone who threatens the people of israel is going to face justice swiftly. and

this has all taking place with them last year. >> major, what is the opening as you see it for hostage and ceasefire talks. now that sinn, where sinwar is gone of course, our mission is not completed. brianna is you're saying, the 101 hostages that are being held there, including these babies who've had their birthdays there. the men or women is beyond all belief and is on the top of every single building, the numbers of all these people that are counting and all we want us to bring them home yokley sinwar was opposed to any deal. >> he was the very person that took these hostage drag them from their homes, gave the orders. we found the book that he had written describing how to take people hostage, kill relatives put them in shock and take them hostage. and he did not want to let these people go. again, he rejected every negotiation offer now that he is out of the way. and there's a shakeup in the hamas command structure. our hope our hope is that cammas will aim now for a

new direction. and realize also from a moral point of view, to return these people home, but also for their own benefit. that this is time to allow israeli hostages to go home the people love gaza have also been suffering. allow the people of gaza to go back to their lives and perhaps, perhaps brianna, this can start a new era though, as we say, our enemy has been that we hope their vote will be yes to new era. if not, we are dedicated to doing whatever it takes to bring our people home and finishing hamas so they can never threaten us again. >> major, i'm curious as to who you suspect israel may be negotiating that sort of deal with. there is speculation that he is sinwar's brother muhammad sinwar may take over the operation there's the potential for a vacuum of power, and then there's also the complicating factor after that from our understanding, many of these hostages aren't actually being held by hamas itself, but rather other

organizations and satellite groups that is already complicated the process of helping recover the hostages. so i imagine it's not going to be a simple vote, as you said, by hamas or its affiliates to get closer to a negotiation, to get closer to a hostage release deal or a cease-fire correct that the hostages after hamas came into gaza and captured and killed families and took those hostages back, there were regular people that came in that were not wearing that were not trained by hamas that joined in the mili of terror, took men, women, and children brought them back to clans and gaza. >> however, hamas and we've said this from the very beginning, they are clearly the address of gaza. they are the terror empire in gaza, while there are other players, they know every single thing that's happened in the past a year ago, almost a year ago when we had a ceasefire and a hostage deal everybody went along with it, coming moscow about the

order and it happened then we believe still today with the existing leadership of hamas, if they want to, they can bring a deal to the table. it is up to them, it is in their hands. there. the point people in gaza and it can happen. again. the world has suppression of them. an order to do so. and we have to hope for a new era. and at the same time, we are doing everything we have based on intel homes quickly major spielman. >> thank you so much for being with us. we do want to go to vice president harris, who is now reacting to this news. let's listen ya sinwar, the leader of hamas, is dead and, justice has been served and the united states, israel, and the entire world are better off as a result sinwar was responsible for the killing of thousands of innocent people including, the victims of october 7 and

hostages killed in gaza. >> he had american blood on his hands today, i can only hope that the families of the victims of hamas feel a sense and measure of relief sinwar was the mastermind of october 7, the deadliest day for the jewish people since the holocaust. a terrorist attack that killed 1,200 innocent people. and included horrific sexual violence. and more than 250 hostages taken into gaza including seven americans living and deceased who remain in captivity. a terrorist attack that triggered a devastating war in gaza a war that has led to unconscionable suffering of many innocent palestinians. and greater instability throughout the middle east. in the past year

american special operations and intelligence personnel have worked closely with their israeli counterparts to locate and track sinwar and other hamas leaders and i commend their work and i will say to any terrorist who kills americans threatens the american people or threatens our troops or our interests no, this we will always bring you to justice israel has a right to defend itself and the threat hamas poses to israel must be eliminated. today, there is clear progress toward that goal hamas is decimated and its leadership is eliminated this, moment gives us an opportunity to finally end the war in gaza and it must end such that

israel is secure the hostages are released. the suffering in gaza ends, and the palestinian people can realize their right to dignity, security, freedom, and self-determination and it is time for the day after to begin without hamas in power, we will not give up on these goals. and i will always work to create a future of peace dignity, and security for all that yahya sinwar is dead, killed by the idf. we do have cnn's mj lee at the white house, clarissa ward as well in london. clarissa of course, is one the few western journalists who has been in gaza during the war. but mj, i do want to go to you first. you have some new

reporting about how families of american hostages being held by hamas are reacting to news of the death of sinwar yeah, brianna, we just heard the vice president referring to the fact that there are still seven american hostages, both living and deceased, that are still being held captive, captive >> these families including american, israeli hostages, that have been taken into gaza on october 7, i mean, they are watching this development, the news of yahya sinwar's death, and they are worried sick. i was texting earlier with ruby khen. he is of course the father of itay han, the young us israeli american that was taken hostage and killed on october 7, whose body has yet to be released? he was saying you're very concerned terrorists in the field will do something irrational to the hostages they are holding. and he said time is of the essence to say the obvious, the thing that these hostage families want more than anything else is

a ceasefire and hostages deal. so that all of the hostages can be released. and for the past this has been a nightmare situation for these families every day there are waking up hoping that there is some good news on the hostages front and they are now in the position of basically waiting to see and learn whether sinwar is death ends up prompting a different phase of this conflict, whether it will ultimately mean in that the conflict can end. but as you all watch, prime minister netanyahu and his speech, it certainly didn't sound like that is where his mind was out, but it was very interesting that for the vice president, her focus was very much on the end to this conflict and basically, what should happen once the war is over. that was clearly her message clarissa, we noted your reporting from gaza just a moment ago. >> i wonder what you think. yahya sinwar's death means for the enclave, for palestinians

and for the region more broadly well, i mean bars, we haven't had any reaction from hamas yet. obviously this is a largely expected but still a big blow for their leadership coming on the heels of the assassination of the for political leader is smile haniah what's been really interesting though, is talking to people inside of gaza about how they view sinwar's death. and cnn has been talking to people throughout the day. while many people have said that they are sad, there hasn't been the kind of emotional outpouring, the tears that we saw, for example, with hassan nasrallah's death the leader of hezbollah, or a smile haniah, who i just mentioned. i think that the senses, many palestinians in gaza are honestly just focus right now on trying to survive. and there are those who will privately speak openly about their hatred of hamas, about their deep resentment of the immense bloodshed that yahya sinwar

brought a bomb. the people of gaza. but in terms of public demonstrations, the thing you are hearing over and over again, boris is, does this mean the end of the war? we can't possibly survive this war any longer. and it's important to remind our viewers right now that we are talking about a year of relentless bombardment. we are talking about 42 thousand people dead. the majority of them women, children, and civilians. we are talking about people starving to death. we're talking about disease, the reemergence of polio, the situation inside gaza is absolutely catastrophic. and unsustainable. and i think that's why you saw vice president harris saying that while justice has been served, this is a moment to celebrate. this is also an opportunity, a pivotal moment potentially to try to get the hostages released, to try to end this war, to try to get that ceasefire in place. but when

you listen to prime minister netanyahu's speech, he talked a lot about needing to have patients. he talked about the challenges that remain. he alluded to the multiple fronts that israel has opened across the region so no real hope from the people in gaza that despite the significance of this moment that this will actually fundamentally change the situation on the ground and potentially portend an end to this grizzly year-long conflict that really does put it into perspective, clarissa. >> thank you so much. mj. thank you as well and we just heard from president biden, he says he's going to speak soon with prime minister benjamin netanyahu so we will see what comes of that call and are breaking news this hour, israel confirming the death of hamas leader yahya sinwar celebrations as you see you're underway in tel aviv while much more in a moment

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washington post columnist and also with us, we have cnn military analyst, retired air force colonel cedric leighton first, let's talk about some of you heard some of our interview with the idf, but let's talk about some of the specifics kernel of this it's operation because i think there is a lot of curiosity around it. this was a routine military operation, but the idf is also stressing that they had a lot of intel about hamas leaders sort of in the area, so that they were on a little bit of an alert, but they had no idea this was sinwar until they were able to do a little bit of surveillance and see what did you think about well, you've learned so far. >> yes, this is very interesting, brianna, because there were initial reporting was that they just happened upon these three terrorists and they shot them and it was all happenstance, coincidence. but i was suspicious of that because, you can't do those kinds of operations with at least some knowledge of what you're going to be encountering wondering so the israeli spokesman, the idf spokesman, when he talked about this, he

laid out the fact that there was a lot of intel preparation, what we call intel preparation of the battle space for this type of an operation. they didn't know specifically that he was there, but they suspected that somebody might be there. somebody really important. and that's the way it usually works with these high value you target type situations where hvts, as we call them. another thing that's interesting to note is when vice president harris spoke, she talked about how the u.s. was helping with intelligence and special operations capabilities. so there's something to be said that the united states probably helped the israelis with some degree of intelligence and both tactical and strategic. and that intelligence helped get the israelis to this point, josh, it's notable that this took place in rafah, which the u.s. warned israel about expanding ground operations in. and you heard from benjamin netanyahu there essentially saying that the ends here just to find the means of expanding its ground operation into rafah at the cost of civilian lives,

right right. >> i think what you see is the biden administration taking credit where they can and papering over the fact that they've disagreed with that, nothing i can government throughout the war and including till now, it's not just rafah. there's a new israeli offensive in northern gaza that's affecting a lot of people, 400,000 people ordered to evacuate the white house was against the war in lebanon. partisan biden said it on tv. and then after they did it he totally change his mind. he said, okay, it's a good idea afterward, so it's very clear that the biden ministration is following the events rather than shaping them and if we just listened to what vice president harris said, her position hasn't changed. she still wants to see the war end now and i agree with mj and clarissa, there's no indication from anything that day who said today that he's interested in that. and on the hamas side there's no assurance that sinwar will be replaced by a friendly or more diplomatic terrorists. it's usually not the way it goes. and so i think this is going to get a lot worse before it gets any better. >> well, that's very important to note because american officials, as you sit, there

are striking this sort of hopeful tone, maybe this is a window of opportunity, but we also ask major spielman of the idf and he also said that maybe this is opportunity, but he was also very careful to say the enemy gets a nice thing for both of them to say, neither of them believes it. you don't believe? i don't believe it, right. so it's not like i mean, sure. it would be great if everyone decided right now to stop fighting. but everything we see on the ground and everything we know indicates the opposite is going to happen. these operations are intensifying, not the other way they're out in the, when the israeli say they want total victory, well, that's not what they have. so all wars end in diplomacy, but only when one or both sides is exhausted enough to sue for peace and neither side seems to be doing that right now. and it's harris is stuck because she wants to appeal to arab and muslim americans, especially in michigan by saying that she's for palace it's and he's living in peace and dignity. but her administration is not willing to do anything to pressure the israelis to move towards that goal and that's a terrible political situation for her, but also terrible for the palestinians and israelis caught in the crossfire we're

just kind of interesting when you look at all the different, different aspects of this because from a strategic perspective, this is actually to both israel's in the u.s. advantage to basically break the ring of encirclement that the reign iran and its proxies have actually exercised around israel during this period. so now that israel has moved into, as done this, as basically killed two major leaders of hamas. and hezbollah, and of course, the echelons below that, there's been a lot of movement in that way. so the israelis are basically broadening the area that they actually control. they are creating a more of a safety zone and of fraud, purely military perspective, this makes a lot of sense, and it's also in the u.s.'s interest that israel be secure that way. and so it's a fine line that they have to work because they're looking at it. the administration and the harris campaign, they're looking at it in a way where they, as you said, they want to make sure that they get some advantage out of this and they have helped them. and it is the key

thing is when harris said that iran was the most important threat to the united states, what she was talking about was this particular moment in time that right now iran is that threat in this helps the us with that particular argument. >> i guess i agree that there's a series of tactical advantages, but as for strategic advantage, i'm not so sure. i mean, the united states military had nothing but tactical victories for 20 years in iraq and afghanistan somehow managed to lose both of those war strategically. and if the goal is to hold a lot of territory, well, that's pretty problematic but i just thought it iraq. >> well, i don't think we lost arrive. okay. >> will stand by my assessment on that one. but the bottom line is that without any idea of what the end state is going to look like the day after the fighting stops, we can't say that there were any closer to a strategic situation where there is peace and stability for israel, palestine, or the united states. so i think you can have a lot of tactical victories and still end up having a strategic setback. >> and that's very true because there's the war and

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specific groups of voters. we saw harris trying to win over some conservatives, yes yesterday appearing on fox for her first ever interview with the network. and in the meantime, trump is courting latino speaking to voters during a town hall that aired on univision last night let's talk about this now with pollster and communications strategist frank luntz. frank first let's start with harris, his interview on fox. she interviewed with bret bair and at one moment he tried to get harris to insult people who support trump. here's how she responded. >> misguided the 50% stupid and what did i would never say that about the american people what did you think overall about the interview? >> you can also talk about that moment if it stood out to you, but do you think that this interview helps her or do you think it hurt her? >> i want you to remember that in the end, it's not what you say that matters. it's what people here. it's not that she did the interview. its who

sought and what the reaction was it was a contentious interview. it was very difficult and very alarming to some viewers to see these two individuals arguing with each other. if you're a conservative, you thought that bret baier got the better of her if you're a progressive, he thought that she clearly one to me, the issue is did she answer the questions that people care about most? on immigration and on prices, on affordability and i don't think that her answers were were of the scope that people will look looking for specifically, what would you do at the border? do you take responsibility for what happened and most importantly, what are you going to do in the future? now it was contentious just and bret jumped on her several times for not being clear and concise for her efforts. she did. she was clear about her views towards immigration in general and specifically the border but in the end, you have to answer the

question, why did it get this way? >> and i don't feel like she gave that answer. >> now, i'm equally critical of donald trump, which i think you're going to get to about his interview in the town town-hall. the fact is trump needs it's to say less and harris needs to say more. trump should be quiet and harris should be vocal and where she stands for what exactly she plans to do so during that univision town hall, there was a former republican voter who said that trump actually lost his vote after january 6. frank and then gave trump the opportunity to gain it back specifically, let's listen to reaction from the audience during trump's answer here some of those people went down to the capitol. >> i said peacefully and patriotically nothing done wrong at all, nothing done wrong. and action was taken, strong action. ashli babbitt was killed. nobody was killed there were no guns down there. we didn't have guns. the others had guns, but we didn't

have guns guns and they had a myriad of weapons. >> i do just want to be clear on the facts there, but what did you think about his representation there? what did you think about his appearance? >> it doesn't work and i realized that your view is right now st. joy, like anything. it's not whether i like it or not. it's whether voters are impacted by it. donald trump, i don't think realizes that his weakest stand and where he's most on defense and he found no way to get around it. are the events to january 6, whether you agree or disagree with his election, nobody liked what happened on january 6. nobody wants anything like that to ever happen again. and jd vance's defense of trump on january 6, and the unwillingness to acknowledge that trump lost the election and joe biden won. it, continues to weigh down the possibility of some voters switching from harris to trump around decided to trump anytime

he's talking about january 6 donald trump is losing there's a group of course that trump is struggling with is women. >> and a recent kff survey interviewed women in june, again in september to found a 39 point swing among democratic women who say they're satisfied with presidential choices at 29 point swing among the same group who say the election makes them feel hopeful. what's interesting to note here is that it found a majority of women on both sides of the aisle consider inflation and household expenses their top issues and they say that they trust harris more to handle household expenses. what did you make of that frank i find that interesting that you can either focus on how well harris is doing among women but focus on how well donald trump is doing among men. >> you can focus on the fact that the gender gap gets more and more narrow, the older that you get, the fact is harris's

joining unprecedentedly well among young women 18 to 29 donald trump is doing unprecedently well among men over age 50 so it just depends on which side of the coin you want to look at. in the end i actually think they're going to be divorces actually think it's going to cause a lot of strife over thanksgiving, christmas, as men lineup on one side of women lineup on the other, but in the end the key is going to be turnout. and whether young women come to the polls or older men come to the polls because that it doesn't matter where you stand right now. and it doesn't matter who you say you're voting for. the only thing that matters is voter participant beijing. and what have we seen georgia is setting record numbers and early votes. i think going to end up being a very high turnout election. and it's still on a razor's edge i hope they're not divorces over this i think, you know more more about how people feel as you do your focus groups. >> so i worry as you say that, but maybe we draw the line at a

little thanksgiving strife frank luntz. thank you so much i hope you're correct, but i'm not convinced of it i believe you on that, sir. all right. so during harris his interview with fox, she also went after trump's recent comments about using the military to handle what he called the enemy within simply put, some americans specifically his enemies politically. >> yeah, and he's specifically mentioned nancy pelosi, adam schiff, other democrats harris pushed back after the network used a soundbite that didn't fully capture what trump said about it during a town hall. we want to play that moment followed by the sound bite that didn't air in the segment we ask that question to the former president today, harris faulkner had a town hall and this is how he responded i heard about that. >> they were saying i was like threatening i'm not threatening anybody they're the ones doing

the threatening. they do phony investigations. i've been investigated more than alphonse capone one was the greatest know it's true. >> we don't think it's called weaponization of government is terrible so i'm sorry. and with all due respect, that clip was not what he has been saying about the enemy within it is the enemy from within. and they're very dangerous. they're marxists and communists and bashes, and they're sick. i use a guy like adam schiff because they made up the russia, russia, russia hoax. it took two years to solve the problem absolutely nothing was done wrong, et cetera, et cetera. they're dangerous for our country. we have china, we have russia, we have all these countries if you have a smart president that they could all be handled, the more difficult, that pelosi's, these people, this so sick and so evil let's discuss with cnn chief media analysts brian stelter and brian, you've been rolling back the tape, not only of this interview, but also

brett bears interview with donald trump last year. >> what did you find where some of the differences yes, because pop does have a big audience that is very loyal. so the interviews that happened on fox matter a lot. you can tell a lot about an interview based on the first question that's asked. so watch bret baier asked trump a first question last year, and then watch his first question to harris mr. president, thanks for the time. >> thank you know, i've asked this question the same first question to all the candidates have interviewed this year. >> and that is this. what do you think is the most important issue facing the country right now? madam vice president, thank you for the time. >> thank you. it's good to be with you, brett. >> voters tell pollsters all over the country and here in pennsylvania that immigration is one of the key issues that they're looking at this election and specifically the influx of illegal immigrants from more than 150 countries how many illegal immigrants would you estimate your administration has released into the country over the last three-and-a-half years what a

warmed up his subject tried to make trump comfortable with harris. he went for the jugular right away. we love to the transcripts of both interviews and found that he also interrupted harris a lot more often this of course reflects what the fox audience wanted to see. they wanted to see harris squirm in her first seat. now, to be bear, bear also pressed trump challenge to trump about his classified documents and mishandling. so both interviews were probably but in very different ways. and with harris, one of the big takeaways is that she sat there and was interrupted over and over again. some people think she was man's planned. of course others think she was filibustering quoting bears questions and brian what did harris achieve? >> i mean, she clearly went in with a goal to perhaps to attract some conservative voters over maybe some who are on the fence, maybe some women. did. did she do that? >> i think we boil it down to one word, tough. she showed that she was tough. she went

into the lion's den or the fox. then in this case, she showed fox viewers even real skeptics of her that she's willing to take questions. of course, they're going to want more journalists always want to ask more questions. a lot of viewers have more questions do, but she did show that kind of toughness whether that actually matters on the margins. i think that's impossible to know until november 5. >> brian stelter. thanks so much for the analysis. i wonder what kind of den we have here at cnn news central, that's the lions damage dislike the the taco, the panda, then landed in the hot dog dan, the panda, dan these are things brian, thanks so much for being with us still to come a serious, serious matter of texas death row inmate who advocates insist is innocent has been called to testify about the lawfulness of it. >> his conviction next week the issue is that his execution is scheduled for tonight the latest on the fight to free robert roberson next

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mentioned one of them, which is this unprecedented and historic move by a state house committee here in tel six is that has issued a subpoena. that committee is investigating the medical testimony that was delivered in this case, and they have scheduled and issued a subpoena for robertson to appear next week before the committee after the execution date. clearly, this is an attempt by that committee to try to halt this execution you should there also his roberson's lawyers are also working through the u.s. supreme court and the texas court of criminal appeals to halt this during the state house committee yesterday meeting, there was a seven hours of testimony. much of it included medical experts said that we're trying to convince of the courts that this medical testimony that was used to convict robert robertson was faulty. we spoke with barry scheck, one of the co-founders of the innocence project. and he talked about why that testimony is so important. he hopes judges are listening no

one who saw that hearing would walk away believing that there is a substantial risk, if not a definite reality, that texas could kill an innocent man at 6:00 tonight so the texas court of criminal appeals must reconsider this. >> they must reconsider this for their own reputation getting no indication so far that any of this is happening, as we mentioned, the execution scheduled for 6:00 central time, 7:00 p.m. eastern all right the clock is ticking, will be watching ed lavendera. thank you for the report. and next back to our breaking news, the death of hamas leader yahya sinwar families of american hostages still held by hamas tell us they are terrified about what may happen next. we'll have more on the latest from the middle east

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