there can be a pause and a reassessment and the hostages can come home immediately and the war can end and we can begin a new in the middle east, ideally, in my opinion, with the middle east, that leads to a two-state solution with sinwar dead and behind us, maybe just maybe there can be this momentary pause with these hostages can come home, and the war can end but make no mistake. sinwar was a bad guy. he was a terrorist and he had blood on his hands and i am glad that he is dead and no longer in a position where he can wreak havoc across the globe and take more lives governor josh shapiro, thank you for your time. thank you. anderson quick programming note. >> the former president is now a bit less than an hour away from his solo appearance. now at the al smith memorial dinner here in new york, live pictures. we'll bring you his remarks when they happen just ahead tonight, cnn's donie o'sullivan talks to people who believe that donald trump was

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slash spark collins, tonight at nine today that jojo sin war, the terror leader of hamas and mastermind behind the october 7 in israel has been finally killed in wars, actions not only lead to the mask or more than 1,200 people, but also the kidnappings, more than 250 others on october 7, the idf released a video today showing sin wars last moments in this edited clip, a drone enters a damaged buildings sin war. >> you see him sitting on a chair his body is positioned in a wave from the drone. he appears to be looking toward the drone, staring at it. he also appears to be alone. according to the idf's in war had been shot in the hand and the drone video appears to show him unable to move. he then throw is what the idf highlights as a piece of wood in the direction of the drone the idf later discovered his body in the rubble of the building. and we want to warn you what you're about to see

his graphic. the building was shelled by an israeli tank yesterday. foot, the military was able to run dna test and use dental records to confirm it was in facts in wars, body joining me now is new york times foreign affairs columnist thomas friedman, author from beirut to jerusalem, how significant is this? tom >> anderson because he has seen war plan. this war led this war, directed this war without him there's really only one significant hamas leader left in gaza that's his brother muhammad and it is the necessary but not sufficient condition to end this war and put israelis and palestinians ana, a new trajectory. >> what would that actually look like? i know secretary blinken you know has been doing a lot of diplomacy said the united states will quote, redouble its efforts with partners to end this conflict. i know you've reported on this. what do you see as a

possible way forward? >> what basically, secretary blinken the leader of saudi arabia, mohammed bin salman leadership in the united arab emirates the palestinian authority. they've all basically for the last month been in a kind of quiet dialogue to create a morning scenario for gaza it's a multi-step process. anderson step one, you get president mahmoud abbas of the palestinian authority to a point someone like a salam fayyad a high-quality, respected non-corrupt leader, to be the prime minister of a completely reformed palestinian authority. step two, you get that palestinian authority to issue an invitation to the uae, egypt, other arab states, european countries to create an international peacekeeping force of which pa a soldiers would be members to basically phase into gaza as israel faces

out and take over over security there. stage three israel commits to a dialogue with the palestinian authority on a two-state solution which creates them the context for saudi arabia to normalize relations with israel and open the way basically for relations between israel and the wider muslim world obviously the million things that can go wrong here but there is a plan. it's being seriously discussed. the question is will for it to succeed netanyahu really would have to agree to block his cabinet. do to replace him his several of the far right crazy lunatic, messianic members of his cabinet who played key roles in it. replace them with a more centrist politicians and to take a risk on a peace with saudi arabia but also realizing that somehow israel has got to fill the vacuum in gaza it's either going to be filled by

remnants of hamas. it's either going to be a mass insurgency, a permanent israeli occupation, or an eric peacekeeping force that paves the way for two-state solution. >> i mean, netanyahu has done everything possible over the last many years to undercut the palestinian authority and mahmoud abbas is authority. and actually funding, again, allowing money to go to hamas in order to keep the possibility of a two-state solution off the table, do you think i mean, do you think he sees this as i'm doing this as a possibility that he would go along with it because obviously any anything that saudi arabia would mean fall, fathers, they would only do it if this was to on paper lead to a two-state solution he is designated his closest adviser strategic minister, minister strategy or strategic affairs, ron dermer, former ambassador to washington, to engage in this dialogue with the administration of with the uae

and with others. >> so he's clearly probing it. >> but he has a history three of probing things and not closing them. so but all i can say to you, anderson, is that israel now has achieved a major military victory in gaza, but remains a tactical victory to translate that tactical victory into a strategic victory that gives real security for israelis and palestinians and brings this thing to some kind of ending. he's going to have to take a risk. he's going to have to prove that he is a churchillian figure that he, that he claims to be colomy dubious, but at the same time i'm asking myself, but out him taking that step how does israel translate this tactical victory into a strategic victory yeah, sinwar, i mean, there i saw some people online portraying him as a sort of a messianic figure just to be clear, i mean, not only did he take part in this terror on october 7 and other terrorist acts he also hill but a lot of

palestinians, i mean, he was head of the internal security for hamas. i remember being in gaza years ago and seeing palestinians being dragged through the streets on the backs of motorcycles chain to the back of a motorcycle. their bodies dragged through the streets who were viewed as collaborators. he was the guy who was executing a lot of palestinians look, i mean, there had been two uprising against hamas in 2019 and 2021 among gazans they were called, you know, we want to live. that was the name of the uprising. so this was an islamo-fascist organization. and yes, he had his supporters obviously, but over the line last year, given what happened in gaza, because basically anderson, what would seem more did it was it was a human sacrifice. he attacked israel in a way that he knew would produce this reaction. he provided no warning no no shelter for any of his people in light of the israeli onslaught he in effect traded

thousands of, palestinian lives for the next generation on tiktok to win the support of the next-generation. by the way, it worked. it was a very effective strategy. if you're interested in public affairs for palestinians. but if you're interested in a state for palestinians, it's been a disaster. and my only regret, frankly, is that it was palestinians who in the end, finishing off. but in fact, israelis tom friedman, thank you as always next, our donie o'sullivan talks to some of trump's supporters to believe he was anointed by god to be president will be right back better together, like your workplace benefits and retirement savings for you or helps to choose the right amounts without over or under investment. so you can feel confident in your financial choices well-planned, well invested, well protected if you're living with dry amd, you may be at risk for developing geographic atrophy or ga, ga can be unpredictable and progressed rapidly, leading to irreversible vision loss.

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rome fell. and so we'll america >> you going all these battleground states? because i said it's not just a battleground politically there's no battleground in the spirit trump was sent from god. i do i do. >> how many divine intervention god calls people and they're not perfect people so he has to call someone that's going to take a stand and that's what trump is doing. he is filling his calling it's a few weeks before election day and christian singer, preacher and trump's supporters, sean fois, is here outside the north carolina state capitol. we're going to plead and the home are the capitol voice didn't mention trump's name at this event. at all. >> but the political undertones were very clear we plead the

blood of jesus, your blood speaks about word, then whatever is happening inside that building you're traveling to every state capitol yeah. >> just tell us the significance of bash. >> it feels like it's more acceptable. a lot of times in capitals to have a drag cream a drag queen reading this to kids rather than christians worshipping and so my heart is like, hey, let's empower people in the church to understand the significance of what happens in that building really were in many ways, putting the politicians on notice in that building. hey, the churches, a lot we're aware and there are things that we're going to stand for and things that we're going to stand against there's no official religion of this country. you would agree religion that this country was based on as christianity. i mean, for anyone to go and dispute that they're completely ignorant and blind you believe in

freedom of religion people can be, people can be of different faiths and practice as they wish. but this is a christian country and this is what it was founded on. and that is what makes america so i'm an only great what does that mean though america is a christian country, we have a constitution that is rooted in liberal democracy. you don't arrive at the american constitution with just the bible unless you're buying a trump bible which already has the american constitution in it this was the flag that went in instead, the senate when the doors were broken, i first met pastor ben marsh almost four years ago. >> the christian flag, after i saw this sermon that was posted online where he explains the role of christianity in january 6, they thought they were doing the work of god because pastors and leaders have liked meyer says equating christianity and american patriotism the way some of the trump movement do is dangerous. it can create a call like attitude towards the

leaders that are there because they're no longer just oh, that's the right guy. like his policies now it's oh, jesus has chosen that person. so we have to follow that person to wherever they go. >> a pastor marsh is describing is christian nationalism. >> i believe that's a term that's been weaponized to gotta try to put christians into a corner, right? where we don't exercise our faith in the public square. >> but pastor marsh disagrees. he's worried that christian nationalism could lead to more violence. >> we are in a time when political violence is just kind of the air that we're breathing and people are so afraid it comes back to fear. so trump supporters looking at democrats, if they win, they're going to commit all these atrocities. you have christian leaders are saying they're going to lock you up. they're going to take away your pulpits just rampant lives, promoting the god bless the usa bible, fire from distancing himself from christian nationalism, trump has embraced it, even

selling a $60 bible complete with the founding documents you brought me a trump bible. god bless the usa and then we say the grace of the lord, jesus christ be with you all. amen and then all of a sudden you have the declaration of independence what's the implication there? donie that government has been set in place to enact the will of christ somehow honestly it breaks my heart what about to people who say, you're overreacting? i love my country. i am a christian. i love the bible. i love the founding documents watch. so bad about putting them together in one book i think what's so bad about this? not just this bible, but the whole movement is it is enticing people to do things that really aren't christian, that make them feel like they're doing something that's christian. all this partisan nonsense. and it's all designed to make people think that they're doing something

for jesus when the, when they're really not, they're doing something for trump or not you're a weakness, a failing nation we're here to seek god and donie o'sullivan joins us now. >> i mean, how does christian nationalism play in with the wider election denialism movement? >> yeah, i mean, it's really an integral part of it. and as you saw as pastor marsh mentioned there at january 6, there was a lot of people under christian flags using christian iconography going into the capital. look, as you heard, one lady said there trump was sent from god, divine intervention if you really believe that us, and then if you are also convinced that if he loses and it was taken stolen from him, then it's easy to see how that could fuel something like violence during solvent. thanks so much. appreciate it coming up next with early voting now underway in north carolina, have voted there is in areas devastated by hurricane helene, are still managing to cast ballots

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and this is cnn early voting kicked off today, north carolina, more than 209,000 ballots cast so far approaching record numbers despite hurricane damage in the western part of the state. even in the storm-ravaged counties, just four out of 80 plan voting sites failed to open our miguel marquez reports >> rice is a good ron. ron right now, this is really, can access some areas of storm ravaged north carolina. >> russ robertson has been helping out, doing anything and everything since day one brush cutting, landslide, clearing, immediate needs, met. now a big new need, figuring out how to vote in an area cut off by the most severe storm damage. >> those that want to go, i'll 100, 100% be able to get them there, right to vote but there will be communities that probably some people don't get the vote that want to vote

water swept through. >> jeff will lead home on the cane river in yancey county. >> we would like to early vote if we can get in. we might need an all-terrain vehicle, but we will get into yancey is one of 25 north carolina counties plus cherokee tribal areas in the disaster presumed where election rules have changed 1.3 million, mostly conservative tar hill voters live there with over 7.7 million registered voters statewide this year. every vote critical it's a state trump won in 2020 by just over 74,000 votes. >> how will you actually vote? >> i will go to one of the voting stations in town. i have a truck there so i can get in and out. it's a little difficult, but i can and nothing will keep you from voting. >> no. >> bill and in murderers huge supporters of donald trump have concerns about voting nationwide. here at home. >> totally trust their vote will count. she's gotten

absentee ballot, but are probably go in and vote if i have to all go to town hall. oh, hit check if i have to buy with partisan anger is still simmering over trump's 2020 loss. new fears, changes to election laws approved by the states bipartisan election board among other things, allowing displaced voters to receive absentee ballots, had a different address. >> i'm concerned that these relaxing of some of the rules that they have is also going to invite, you know, fraud into the system and i'm a i'm worried about the people just being able to vote the extreme storm, claiming more than 230 lives so far here in north carolina, around 80 are still missing. >> and now with winter coming despite all the misery something surprising. >> this somehow gives you hope for the country. absolutely. something that i, that i worry about a lot we could ever hit together and as a country, as a people get past this partisan

divide, are definitely gives me hope that this encourages that have seen across north carolina, we did not expect to hear that sort of bit of hope that we heard from ross up in the antsy county was an hour-and-a-half from where we are right now. >> this is asheville, the biltmore village still a long way to go. there is a lot of progress, but we saw praising today jam-packed, neither hell or high water is going to keep north carolinians from voting in this election. >> and anderson, it's so awesome when he's doing helping people out and as you said, he's been doing that for for weeks now incredible. >> miguel. thank you so much. >> greater. right? you got it. >> thank you. the news continues right now. the source with kaitlan collins starts now