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divide, are definitely gives me hope that this encourages that have seen across north carolina, we did not expect to hear that sort of bit of hope that we heard from ross up in the antsy county was an hour-and-a-half from where we are right now. >> this is asheville, the biltmore village still a long way to go. there is a lot of progress, but we saw praising today jam-packed, neither hell or high water is going to keep north carolinians from voting in this election. >> and anderson, it's so awesome when he's doing helping people out and as you said, he's been doing that for for weeks now incredible. >> miguel. thank you so much. >> greater. right? you got it. >> thank you. the news continues right now. the source with kaitlan collins starts now
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clock here in new york. >> this is the source and i'm kaitlan collins were expecting donald trump to eak at any moment now, not far from where i am tonight gathered at a high our dinner for the political elite. right now, you can see the former president's sitting with melania trump at his side are rare joint appearance from the two of them. in the closing weeks of this campaign. the trump's are seated right next to cardinal dolan and right next to cardinal dolan is senate majority leader chuck schumer. who just a few months ago, trump called schumer the highest-ranking jewish official in the united states. i should note, a proud member of hamas and yes, if you look at the top left corner of your screen, that is the new york attorney general, tish james sitting over donald trump's right shoulder among a few other notable names, were going to bring those remarks to you live. because what all of these people are gathered at is known as the al smith dinner. it happens every year, but also it gets the most attention just before the election were typically the two presidential candidates are, they are dressed up in their sunday best
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to make lighthearted speeches and poke fun at themselves and each other. to benefit catholic charities. it's usually a rare moment of levity on the campaign trail. this year, maybe not so much. vice president harris decided against attending tonight's dinner. instead, sending along a videotaped message she's instead rally in battleground, wisconsin. there may not have been much for her to laugh at if she was there, especially when your opponent is floating, the idea of using the us military against his political opponents the vice president actually brought that comment up from donald trump tonight while she was out on the campaign trail in wisconsin. and she also went after trump on reproductive rights, playing his own words for the crowd when doing some roasting of her own of ivf you listen to donald trump
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talk? >> it becomes increasingly clear. i think he has no idea what he's talking about >> the campaign trail just a few moments ago earlier today, while she was there, we also heard her weigh in on the death of one of the most wanted men in the world, yahyah sinwar, who was the mastermind behind the october 7 attacks on israel, killed by israeli forces in rafah how it went down is nothing short of extraordinary. israeli forces were in a firefight with hamas. they sent a drone into the building that they had just struck. an as that drone entered the second floor, as you are seeing here they're sitting in that chair, his face covered is yahya sinwar and his final moments, a lot five the idf says that his hand had been shot. he's holding what appears to be a stick as you can see, there. he then throws
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it at the drone that is staring him down. that would be the last thing that he saw before moments later, the idf leveled the building eliminating the leader of hamas it's proof for the world to see they released this footage must warn you. some may find it disturbing, showing sinwar's body in the rubble. israel says that he was identified by his dental records, his fingerprints and dna the most hunted man and gaza, as you can see here. now gone my sources tonight are cnn's chief intelligence analyst, john miller retired army major mike lyons and israeli journalist nadav eyal, who is also professor at columbia school of international and public affairs. i mean john, the fact that this happened is massive, but how it happened is almost as significant. it seems it's interesting that it's interesting what it wasn't. it wasn't a team of elite israeli special forces acting on intelligence gathered by the mossad and other agencies at a
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pinpointed location. it was a reserve team very well-trained team on routine patrol infantry team with a tank. and people walking. they spotted people they encountered them shots were fired, and they sent they sent a tank round into that building and then rather than go running in to see who was there? because of booby traps and ieds and everything else they've experienced on their rounds. there. they sent that drone in and they looked at that subject and only later when they were cleared to go in there and look around the rubble and find him. did they see the stark resemblance to who they thought he was? >> they did have been realized that they had just killed the most wanted person and gaza. >> i didn't realize they had encountered him. they didn't realize they killed them until they got up close and even that and when you look at the pictures, it looks just like him, but it required dental records, dna, blood, everything
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else, but once they have that confirmed by any doubt, and it really changes the game. >> yeah. i mean, you and i met when i was in israel after october 7, obviously, just foundational moment that had such a deep impact. obviously, with so many israelis brutally killed that day what does a moment like this just mean? i mean, everyone in israel we saw i'll celebrations today just in this moment when i think that americans can relate to this because of the killing of a summer bin laden for israelis. >> this is a summer moment, but it's a watershed moment they did not only manage to get to sinwar israeli air force go to hassan nasrallah and for shukr, the chief of staff of hezbollah, and his smile on haniyeh in tehran. and actually, if you look at the so-called axis of resistance, or the axis of terror every leader of that access is now gone. besides the leader of the houthis. and the supreme leader
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of iran and this is for israelis, something that is maybe more than some are being led in because it was prophesized by many in the west that it will be possible, you know, you had intelligence reports saying whatever the idf is going to do in gaza and specifically in rafah is going to be immaterial. they're not going to get anywhere and they got him and the way that they got him, as john just mentioned, was through going house to house in a specific neighborhood called tel al-sultan, which is a stronghold of hamas. where they thought they might find him not far from the place in which six hostages, one of them, an american citizen, hersh goldberg-polin, were murdered and they found dna evidence that here sinwar was in that tunnel in proximity in terms of time to the time in which these hostages were murdered. and it's very possible that he was there with them and because he was running away from the idf,
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they were ordered shot and murdered. there and he began his struggled to survive in that neighborhood. and of course he failed i just the idea that he was moving with bodyguards. they saw suspicious activity and then realize they hit, they had killed this person. the big question though is, what does this mean? what are the next steps in this war? you're hearing from president biden praising this, but that is the question is, what is the day after? because this was one of netanyahu's stated goals in the war that israel has been conducting in gaza. >> okay. first of all, israel fights like a superpower. they use incredible intelligence, airstrikes, drone technology. when you look at that video of them taking of sinwar there, the fact that they wanted to definitely identify him, they don't rush in there. i mean, they've become masters now, urban in warfare, i hope the united states army, and i'm sure we are, we're going to bring these people back to our war colleges and we stood, it will study this for years. but what's next? a lot of confusion. there's going to be confusion on really three elements. first, hamas leadership. what does that look like? i mean, that didn't look like a military leader there in that room. there's no radios around him. he is not
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commanding anything. he's an aspirational leader and that's about it. he was not commanding people on the ground. so anything that's going on in hamas militarily is very dispersed. there's no, it's all about intent right now. so that's the first thing is there's going to be chaos there. i think the second thing in airs, israel is not stopping. there are going to continue to put military pressure on as they should right now. they'll make be a short window of, a pause causing a little bit, but they're not going to stop. they're going to continue to go after hamas, go after their capability to wage war. and then that last thing is, what does the humanitarian effort going to be? >> but can we just talk about that video again? the video is showing sinwar on the second floor of that building. he has no body guards. they had already been killed. we believe that i mean, that seems like something out of a movie. the idea that they have this footage, i mean, have you seen some something similar to that? no. >> nothing like this. and again, this is not someone running anything. and i mean, this is someone running from israel. he's not running a military. this is not a military operation. it was clearly a tactical victory now for israel and they should be obviously proud of what they took down what the strategic
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implications are and we just have to see it. everything is going eventually come back. what is the randoop as iran decided to double down now on support, more harassed hamas, they support more, they, or do they decide to ignore what's happening in gaza and focus more on what's going on in hezbollah. you actually have reporting because that is the question. >> everyone's, as this is happening, it's in the middle of waiting for israel's retaliation. and i against iran after they launch that major missile attack on israel, what is your sense of how this impacts that i spoke with a senior security officials just before going on this show. >> and what he told me an israeli security official and he told me this changes nothing in terms of our reaction towards iran israel at this point, unless the axis of resistance is being ordered by the supreme leader. if we ran to stand down, something that the israelis and the americans have been pushing since the beginning of the war. and this is not a likely scenario. israel will respond, say israeli officials to the iranian attack on israel. now
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the type of response the intensity is this, what kind of installations iranian installations, islamic republican serious, i'm going to be hit. is this going to be revolutionary regard? is this going to be maybe oil and production? that's a different story, right now. they might dilute it because of pressure coming from the administration, but it's going to happen. >> well, john, what we had heard from us officials all along was a lot of blame on sinwar for the idea that there were no more hostages being released for what he was just bringing up with. the six hostages who were murdered not long ago in that tunnel his brother is still alive. there's a question of who, who resumes the top of hamas? that's leadership, how quickly they act. what that looks like in terms of their weekend, are they more pragmatic? are they going to release the hostages as part of this? i mean, what does these are pretty critical next 72 hours, it seems like exactly. >> and for both prime minister netanyahu and for hamas, because they both are at the same two forks in the road. so
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what, what the us intelligence community has been talking about all day is what happens in those 72 hours version one, hamas announces a new leader within 72 hours and says it is so and so question spill from that. is it mohammed sinwar or is it somebody from the political side? what is the new leadership signal to what could happen at a table of negotiators in qatar? but then what else do they do? do they take a stand and send some long-range missiles into israel that they still have stashed someplace to say we have a new leader and we're back in business. now for bibi, that means, okay, we're back in the war game. this isn't what it could have been. the flip side of that is does does bibi say sinwar is dead hamas is crushed? i have broken hezbollah on the other side. >> so iran, who was ten feet
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tall, a month-and-a-half ago their sword is broken, their proxies disabled we can now start to to begin with, give us back our hostages. >> and we'll get into some talks about what comes next. yeah, this week is going to be critical and seeing who moves which way and as biden said today in his statement, president biden, hamas is no longer capable of carrying out an october 7 level attack. >> will see what happens to those hostages who are still there. thank you to all of my experts who are here. as i mentioned just a few moments ago, any moment donald trump is going to address the dinner that we're looking at here in new york, seated next to some of the people he has been the most harshly critical of at some of whom are investigating him and have investigated him. >> vice president harris is also set to deliver remarks. >> we'll bring both of those moments to you hear, stay with us the week and asked questions like, what does a comedy show doing on cnn too much but i want donald now, can you slice e
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as the prevention. choose mexi newsnight with abby phillip tonight at ten eastern on cnn any moment now, we're about to hear from donald trump speaking at the annual al smith dinner here in new york city and major fundraising event for catholic charities that seen as this basically ritual of american politics. >> it's usually a moment for presidential candidates to get up and joke about their opponent than themselves. trump was actually mocked the last time he attended in 2016, harris, i should note tonight is skipping the tradition altogether, opting to campaign out in wisconsin instead, sending in a pre-recorded video to those that you see here seated on the dice. my political sources are here, maria cardona is they democratic strategist scott jennings was a senior adviser to mitch mcconnell and sara fischer is a senior media reporter for axios maria, what do you make of harris's decision not to attend this dinner instead, think she helped three rallies today in
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wisconsin. trump earlier was saying he should have been allowed to send a pre-recorded video in i don't think it's a big deal for her. i don't think there's really any real political consequences to her not going i took a look at the video it's funny and it serious. i think it gets done the kind of message that she would want to have sent, even if she did go personally. so i really don't think she's missing i think she's doing frankly what she should be doing right in this very contracted timeframe for her, she shouldn't be out doing everything she can in the battleground states, well, and it seemed i mean, this is a dinner where people will roast each other's history funny, but it seems like that what was, what was happening out on the campaign trail today, we saw bill clinton out there. we saw harris out there. here's a little bit of what voters heard out on the trail rally
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smaller one down the street only too much older than donald trump spend 30 minutes sway of back-and-forth when they're making front of trump on the campaign trail. and you're kind of listening to how they're approaching him in these final closing weeks. what do you think voters think about that? >> not, that much really. i mean, i think bill claim has been a terrible surrogates so far. honestly, i'm in the last two times we saw them in public, once he was making the case about how kamala harris has failed on immigration by invoking the laken riley situation in saying that the biden-harris administration not properly vetted the illegal immigrants who killed her, criticized republicans for sinking that bipartisan border deal to mine. >> and then, and then, and then
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secondly, we saw him at the a funeral for ethel kennedy making bizarre, like quasi sexual references about, i mean, he's been a terrible surrogate and obama was a terrible surrogate, and harris was terrible on fox news the other night. this is a campaign that cannot find a way to land the plane and she's skipping the catholic dinner at the same time, one of her top surrogates is out cutting bizarre videos, mocking communion and i'm talking about the governor of michigan, whitmer. and so they have problems with catheters polling showing that trump is bouncing back to 2016 levels with catholics. they got problems with their surrogates and they got a problem with a candidate who can't answer basic questions about the economy and immigration. i think trump's okay to do we talk about that, that fox interview last night, we obviously had a big breakdown that last night, but we just now found out how many other people were watching it. 7 million people. sara tuned into that. i mean, there's a lot of eyeballs who were watching her that yours as a republican view of what you thought of her answers, but but the fact that she was there, maybe some of those viewers have never seen her kind of an unfiltered moment where she's speaking and taking questions.
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>> yes. so just for context normally you're gonna get about 2 million viewers on fox during that hour or so to get 7 million, that's a very big jump. i think what it speaks to is if you're a candidate on the trail right now, you have to really focus on hitting those undecided voters in battleground states. so for kamala harris skipping the catholic dinner in new york, i mean, new york is not a battleground state. donald trump's skipping cnbc. i mean, that's reached in a small amount of business elites, mostly on coast. you can start to see them peeling out from the opportunities or that oren going to hit people in michigan in nevada in those swing states, that's going to be the strategy from now to election day yeah. i was going to say that what kamala harris is doing right now is she's actually showing strength regardless of what my different scott thing she is campaigning from a position of strength, from a position of confidence, i think doing the fox interview fed into that confidence. she gave it to brett baer. she got some really tough questions. she answered them well, and then she also called him out on something when he tried to
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pretend that donald trump said something that he didn't. she called him out on it and he apologized. he realize what he had done. so i think that what she's doing now she's going to all of the platforms to speaking to all of the voters because this is going to be a campaign in an election that is going to be won on the margins and there are a lot of republicans. i think disaffected republicans, even people who voted for trump in 2020, who are now seeing trump now and even though people say, oh, but people know what they're getting with trump. trump has been more deranged every time he speaks and lot of people are saying that he is not the same man that he was in 2020. and that i think there's something that the kamala harris campaign is focusing on message-wise about how dangerous he is, how unserious he is, but the consequences of him getting into office again will be brutally serious. >> it's kind of funny to me to hear maria's say that trump's not the same person he was in 2020 when kamala harris has literally changed every position she ever took in 2019,
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you tell me who? who is the same candidate and who isn't. i have a disagreement on the position of strength. i don't think it's very strong to schedule a 30 minute interview, show up late. do a few minutes, and then have your staff off camera frantically waving their arms, trying to get bret baier to in the interview that's equivalent and boxing to throw in the towel in so this was not a position of strength and i don't 7 million people so what should i wish it was like covering media? >> that's what every single corporate politician does. but i will say this away with the point is, is they have two campaigns. you have your real life campaign, you have your online campaign when you go into the fox ten and you cut those clips, that's how you're energizing young voters online. >> more so than going on call her daddy the which is like a, you know, a clap supportive audience. >> this is them watching her go into the den. and i think it was going to help her with young people. >> there's a question of how many people watched it, but, but on the point about trump and the double the viewers of trump or more so than his town hall know that's an orderly. earlier during the day well, on
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that point though, trump is pulling out of this cnbc interview and another nbc interview with christine romans. i believe he did do a podcast, scott, where he was talking about ukraine's war and russia's war in ukraine. and what that's going to look like. here's something he said during that podcast greatest salesman i've ever seen. every time he comes in, we get my hundred billion dollars. who has got that kind of money in history? there has never been. and that doesn't mean i don't want to help him because i feel very badly for those people. but he should never have let that war start start russia invaded his country. yeah, i'm glad he said he wanted to help him. this has to end with russia's defeat. and however, this campaign turns out and whatever happens in the congress, there's only one way for this to end. whoever it's in charge. >> russia must be defeated. this has to come to an end at some point, i'm glad the president said he wants
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zelenskyy. >> he is wrong and how he framed that. he makes it sound like like zelenskyy just let it happen. i mean, they wanted to kill zelenskyy at russia's the bad guy here. >> i have no trouble telling the good guys from the bad guys. russia is the bad guy. >> i'm so glad scott saying this because this is it's also i think a theme that the kamala harris campaign is putting out there in terms of how donald trump literally bows down to putin. and that is going to be something that will worry americans worry a lot of republicans who feel the way that scott does because that's the right way to feel. and i think it's a great message for them to underscore what he's seated so close to schumer right now at that dinner, who obviously it very different views on on aid to ukraine. we are waiting to see what donald trump says when he gets up at that at that microphone in just a few moments from now, that should happen any moment also up next here, i want to hear what scott has to stay about this because stupid, despicable. that is what senate minority leader mitch mcconnell apparently said about donald trump before he endorsed him. that's according to a new both by a wall source reporter and were caught has a new response out today that you'll also want to hear
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