rooms, too many rooms. >> but in all seriousness, it's an honor to be here to support the city and the community. >> it's a great community that i love. i've been here a long time and i love it. man, it's going to make a big comeback and i'm going to help it make a comeback. i'm going to win and i'm going to make a comeback whether to turn this thing around really incredible man, a man who was a tremendous politician and actually the fact that he was catholic was it probably did him in right there probably nobody knows for sure. >> but it was a great guy, l. >> smith, great guy. everyone says it happy warrior. i've said before that i'll say it again. i'll say it again as many times as they have to directly to the mayor and the governor. if i have the honor to be elected next month, we're going to see what happens. it's happening so fast. but if i have the honor, i look forward to working together to

make this city greater than ever before we're going to do that. >> we're going to be we're going to be focused on i work with the government worked with the mayor democrats. >> i will work with them. i work with whoever i have to and we will even work very hard to bring back the salt tax deduction we're going to bring it back we're going to bring it back we're going to get that thing going, chuck. okay. >> i actually thought about not doing jokes tonight. >> i was going to come out here and said, listen our country is doing very badly. this is not about jokes. and then some person said you have to do jokes. he said, i don't want to. there's nothing funny about what's happening to our country and i actually meant that i was going to do that, but they convinced me to say some of the things i said tonight. i don't know if they were funny or not, but you think this is easy standing up here in front of half a room that hates my guts and the other half loves bit half of us

loved me. >> but maybe it's i think 75% loved me but i actually do like i did think about that our country is doing very badly with respect to it's open borders and inflation crushing things happening in the middle east and ukraine. >> and it's so sad to see what's happening in ukraine while i had a lot of people from their religious people come up to me tonight. from ukraine and they're asking me for help. so, so sad to see so many people have been killed in ukraine. and we're going to get it we're going to get it settled up if we went as i'm president that lacked i'm going to get that done. i'm going to do it before we ever get we have to get it stopped too much killing its killing and all of those cities or coming crashing down those beautiful golden domes are crashing down on their sides. there so sad to see the whole thing is so sad. so we're going to be for all those people that so many people came up to the

dais religious people from ukraine. and i'm going to say, and i told them, don't worry, we're going to get it stopped. it's too bad. it ever started it should have never started. it wouldn't have started but we're going to have our country respected again, we're going to make sure that it's respected. we're going to go out and do very good things for ourselves as a country and for the world. these are challenging times where beautiful usa but i'm committed to working with every partner here in new york and all across the nation to build an america that once again is strong and safe and proud and prosperous and free. going to make sure together we can create a future defined by grade ambitions and grand achievements at once again, inspires the dreams of our children, brings back the american dream. you don't hear about the american dream anymore. we're going to make it possible for them to have the american dream. this is a very religious evening to me.

it really isn't represents so much my my sister was somebody that loved the church and gave to the church a cardinal knew that at a certain price that you thought was incredible, right? for certain very, very fine man that she thought was incredible. >> having recently myself survived two assassination attempts. >> they said i have a chart that went down to the right. fortunately, i looked at my all-time favorite piece of paper but it went down and i look to the right and i said, you know, was that luck? what was that locker? was that god that did that and i think it was god that i do but i have a very fresh cardinal, ever very fresh appreciation. >> for how blessed we are by god's providence and his divine mercy. i mean, that was something i was not supposed to be here tonight that i can tell you. so with god's help, i know

there is nothing that cannot be achieved. we can achieve so much good with this country and get together and unify i want to thank the al smith foundation for its noble work, and i want to express my tremendous gratitude to the catholic community. it's a great community to community has gotten along with all my life. i tell you what i was what i was president, i was in the oval office that i got a call from the cardinal and he said, we need help. it was during the china virus. i want to be accurate when i'm describe it and he said we need help, our schools are in devastating shape. they needed much more than 1 billion. i wanted to tell you the number, but much more than $1 billion but i've known the community and i've known that the schools i know so many people that were educated in the catholic school system and they are great and they just speak with him with love much more so than almost any system that

i've seen and he said, sir, we have a big problem. we need a number of billions of dollars. oh, we're going to have to close down the new york school system. the whole system in new york and i said, give, me 15 minutes. i think i can find it. >> and we gave him billions of dollars and you know what? he stayed open and they thrived and to this day, i hear you did just about the best job there is an education and that was always an honor and every time he sees visas, thank you very much. i said i don't know what you're talking about, but we worked together. we were good partnership. we got that money in about 15 minutes billions and it was put to very good use. but i just want to thank everybody is especially evening. it's very serious evening. i think we have some serious problems in the world, but they're going to get solved and we're going to make america great again and thank you very much and god bless you

all. thank you. thank you very much. >> all right. you've been watching the former president and republican nominee, donald trump addressing the al smith dinner. it's a charity event that gives the presidential candidates a chance to do some comedy in the middle of a heated and bitter political year. donald trump did get a lot of laughs. he also got some boos and you use the stage too. call kamala harris disrespectful for skipping the dinner. and then he cursed from the stage. he praised conspiracy theorist robert f. kennedy, who has endorsed him. he tried to flip the word weird against democrats and he made a transgender joke about chuck schumer, who was sitting right next to him. he joked about doug emhoff's and fidelity in his first marriage. he winked at the assassination attempts against him and much, much more good thing we've got our roundtable here to break it down. brian stelter, what did you make of this performance? >> no, don't ask me first i

thought it was funny. i thought he actually got a few great jokes in that the best moment was we talked about the assassination attempts and made light of what he's experienced because i think he's experiencing real trauma, real ptsd as a result of the shootings, but he's still able to have a light moment in this room and he took well, good vantage of the fact that kamala harris wasn't there, which is really disappointing, is that he kept whole thing exactly that she they're usually supposed to be in the same room, which it is frustrating though that he will not pronounce her name correctly. it's not difficult. and he goes out of his way to insult her in a way that i think is racially touched. >> the fact that she's not there, bomani, a smart move. not so smart move. i mean, she put out this video in it and actually they brought in like a real comedian to do the bit with her but she could have done exactly what trump did and roast him and wrote for the stage. >> yes, but let us stop it. imagine the moment where there's dude makes jokes about your husbands infidelity. but

this first wife or you're just sitting there like, oh man, that was larry. >> i have to say, if you were watching jim gaffigan who was on right before trump made a joke about the grab them by their was with melania trump sitting right there, said it's not amused. >> let me the audacity of trump to decide like you would think some game recognize game will come up at that point, you're like not like we don't lead a joke out. he i don't feel like i'm the person who could tell this, but i get it is difficult for me to listen to him joke right now because nothing feels funny. i could understand like if i would if i were kamala harris to signal, i would want to give is no, i really don't feel like sit around and joking with this dude right now because i don't think he presents a lot to joke about at this point. >> i also think that that event, it used to be a good natured, humored way to kind of take some levity into the campaign season. but i don't think it's like that anymore, but that would really be from the 2016 in event with hillary clinton, where donald trump changed the whole tone of that event by attacking hillary clinton in that particular event. so i feel like he's the

one that kind of change the tone of that to begin with. and then it's a catholic event where kamala harris is running very distinctly on returning the rights of roe to people. and this is a group that really, really loves that those that's were taken from women in the country. so it feels like, you know what she only started her campaign in july. he's been running for president since he was inaugurated in 2017. so he can take a break to make some jokes. she's working really. >> she probably didn't think it mattered. i mean, most evangelicals, white christian church goers voted for donald trump 59% i didn't, 49 or 59%. trump biden 40% in 2020. to your point, she's probably looking at this demographic and thinking based on my policy positions are likely not going to vote for me anyway, it's more expedient for me to be in wisconsin, a state where she may or may not win for trump. i think it's important because a larger percent of catholics don't vote there infrequent voters. so if he can turn out for 5% of those voters in some of those swing states that may make a difference for him in november. >> but shermichael, this was not an event for evangelical

christians as event for catholics, biden won the capital vote in 2020 and trump won the catholic vote in 2016. so it is an immensely important population, especially in states like pennsylvania huge catholic population, huge ethnic catholic population, who respond to cultural catholic things like talking about catholic schools. that is an enormous, i am catholic. it is a very, very deep part of our culture is our catholic schools. they're constant under budgetary issues and a lot are closing this was a perfect time. she could have a lot of smooth things no one would have noticed that she may have gone, but people knows that she wasn't there. >> i'm an old i want these traditions to continue. >> i want our institutions to thrive. and yet i find myself agreeing that there's nothing funny, right now. i mean, i thought he had some great one liners. the line about he was talking now i'm going to forget them all of course, on live tv. eric adams joke was right there were a couple really good that our politicians are rows each other. i want them to be able to be in the same room and find

common glad, i think these point it does strike me that the harris campaign is sort of tacitly saying, hey, this, this ain't normal. trump is not normal. and i'm not going the sit here and kiki with him. >> the last thing i would want if i were commonly harris and trump managed to win this election. is that you've got a budget video with me after the fact kiki ended up with donald trump when we have no idea what this man is capable of if he winds up when it is again, like, i don't want to i would not want to be the person who more allies in that way. the internet does not ever, ever forget. >> i feel like we keep normalizing him, right. so if you go to this event and you do this good nature back-and-forth thing. you're normalizing him well, how much of that is a part of the calculated realize how abnormal he was right here i got so you guys were saying he was so no, no, no, no, no. but we got a whole different challenge down, like backpedaling now, telling him in 2016, i firmly believe myself and i think a lot of other people how bad could it really be eight years later?

>> the guardrails back then, you believe the guardrails would hold that look trump was able to be self-aware tonight, he had self-deprecating jokes. he made a comment about. okay. time for me to make jokes about myself. okay. have nothing to say that that's an acknowledgment of how yeah. >> but did he horn in protest this? no, no. was he self-aware or did he have one good writer that got a bunch of jokes in there because the man was not right. there's one good writer we were talking about that there's one person there was joked you went that was a good joke. that was a good joke. whoever wrote those jokes did a great job. but his, he self-aware know no matter one good joke and he read it in fact, of matter is if i'm if i'm advising the vice president, i'm looking at this moment. >> i don't know if i necessarily agree about the laughter factor of it. i'm looking at how close this race is as a strategist, looking at the data, i'm thinking madam vice president, it makes no sense for you to be in new york when you can be in front of an arena with thousands of voters trying to energize i mean

very catholic, tons of catholics in pennsylvania. and it is the largest swing state, not negating that right now. >> i know if i'm advising the fbi says i wouldn't be as a catholic. this wasn't a big thing, but this was shared all over social you for catholics gretchen whitmer be having a doritos so as a eucharist talking about the chips. >> okay, guys she made it. >> i'm telling you i'm telling what catholics were sharing social media. you could sit there and say it wasn't intended. that's what people took it as i agree. with you then for that from a few weeks ago to all of a sudden sharp skipping the big catholic events, politics, the biggest one and i long history of democrats continuing to slip with the catholic vote. it is an incredibly what's your strategy? i think it was smart for trump to be there. i absolutely agree. i think it was smart for her to be somewhere else just looking at numbers. >> i wonder. i mean the gettable catholics for kamala harris are do they really are they really looking at the al smith didn't aaron saying, oh, my god, she's not there. they're thinking not just thinking, what is she like

people like me that's a big question for commonly, does she actually like people like me, considering like to take amid what make take a pennsylvania voter who heard obama say they claim to their guns and i bibles, who had hillary clinton feel like they were very far away at joe biden was counted what do you think abortion is the pivot issue? know what those counts? >> it's not it's been what it's the catholic schools, it is being good on the economy. it is understanding family economics, stuff like that. also being relatable to working class issues and not putting them down. >> basically the same issues that everybody there is a cultural part of it that is split the civically catholic, i've been in pennsylvania all week and we look at the billboards most of the trump billboards are just saying trump. >> the higher the harris billboards are about policy she supports raising the minimum wage. she supports abortion rights. so there's this argument going on within pennsylvania, right? where policy versus just the cult of personality and on policy, harris has strong arguments well, okay. >> quick last word. >> i'm just gonna say, but

have those policies really moved the needle, brian, i'm not convinced that they have those relate ability issue there for some of those working class whites with the vice president and 40 president know, i guess. >> hang on. standby. we've got much more ahead. breaking news tonight, new revelations about what mitch mcconnell will do for power for hear what the senate's most powerful republican called donald trump behind closed doors. plus fox news's bret baier admits that he made a mistake during the contentious kamala harris interview yesterday, we'll tell you what he said next vegetable vegetable that's trouble for food. actually, you're both, right? >> wolf, blitzer botanically speaking, a tomato is a fruit, but in mixed v hadn't the u.s. >> supreme court ruled that a tomato is a vegetable because of how it's used in cooking. >> i didn't know that. >> now you do

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and see what sticks the gop nominee gave a lengthy interview for the pbd podcast and it was, well, something and it included a trump throwback or race-baiting attack about kamala harris's racial identity black men really liked me and i think black women do too. >> but they have a woman who's black law, you would say she's indian, but she is black. but really a lot of people didn't know, which is true but i learned about it just a couple of months ago. >> maybe, the fact that she's black or that she's indeed the fact that she thought i thought she was indian until a couple of things changed. i mean, a lot of people because if you follow baseball sammy sosa kind of you sometimes have to respect people they sandwich, right. sign that maybe she was doing a sammy sosa the other way, sam is changing amani the racking up this hour that this

sammy sosa of it all, it was it's wild, but i mean are we really doing this again? i don't think he remembers what he already tried and had got off of and then was like, oh yeah, we'll get back to this one. i mean, look logically speaking, it does not many places where you become more popular by being black, like the argument that she's not black almost feels like it's counterproductive to the aims of what it is that he's going for, but they've decided that this is the way they're going about this. substantive issues are not going to get anywhere for them. they have figured it's out this is about vibes. they think this vibe words. i would think by now they had somebody tell him this one doesn't play because when they tried it earlier, that was the universal thing is like this one isn't playing. i just think you forgot. >> i think he doesn't care. i mean, it's like the haitian immigrants. he just says it because that's what he wants to say but trump again and we keep talking about this because he keeps bringing it up. he is struggling with the kamala harris of it. all. he actually joke tonight at the al smith dinner that now he likes joe biden and he says that because this is what he said on truth, social cola should be

investigated and forced off the campaign and joe biden allowed to take it back his rightful place. he got 14 million primary votes. she got none that's fine. >> i mean, she that's funny. i mean, that is finding it what maybe it doesn't biden me in the race. i mean, i think everyone for the most part sort of believed that trump was likely going to win. the reality is kamala harris is a formidable candidate. i mean, you have to bring your a game she's younger, she's excited the democratic base. she's raised a lot of money so i certainly get the frustration. but look, there's a host of issues where donald trump leads on abby. we've talked about it for months now it's the economy and immigration. my advice to him would be to stick to those things if you want to maintain your lead. but what do you november but you know better, you know, he's not going pointing to, you know, i don't know cry in that same post that you just quoted out, but he also said cbs should be forced off

the air. >> the license should be revoked, 60 minutes should be kicked off her games. >> this easy it's not i mean, that what you're talking about, he could try to do. we know that he has a history of trying to punish media companies for doing journalism that he does not like. >> but we look at it and obama spy on a journalist, ryan, its hold it's an all caps and anybody it was wild so people sometimes dismiss it even though it's very serious, brian didn't obama administration is perfect, but no, i don't think that i do not believe that donald trump did what joe what brock obama administration, but reality winner behind bars for leaking to the intercept. every administration is guilty of some of this. the trump that is not the same thanks. donald trump has threatened every major media company in the united states fox right? >> okay. all right. let's call it what you say. i think brian's point is trump is saying he wants to take an entire news organization off

the air because he doesn't like the an interview that they conducted. he doesn't like the evidence you just saw like in the real-world acknowledged that's bad. >> i would say that donald trump's got a diary instead of truth social, that's my opinion. that we are now. >> she didn't get a dire. >> i just have to point out, you didn't answer my question no, because i don't think it's a serious thing. >> it's what we talked about last time, literal versus, versus figurative. i don't think i don't think anyone really thinks is going to take cvs off yes. i mean, what about the rest of the beauty is not going to i don't i was going to cry say is this with janet jackson like he's asking you, i'm just saying a real question. >> no. you're not you're answering his question with a question. >> what he's saying is, is it not is it not crazy that he can just say racist things make up

things about cats and dogs, say whatever he wants longer and it doesn't matter around what about janet jackson is like a racist yes, the same question, but that's not the question. why isn't off the question so to the bow, because donald trump is running for president, right? >> janet jackson is not running for president. all these other people you're mentioning, donald trump is the one running for president, and we need to take this man and the things he says seriously, and the things he's saying, i'm going to take people off the air that i don't agree with. i'm going to go after my political enemies. i'm going to do these terrible things and we have to take things. you're doing it again, i don't do any jail. >> hillary clinton go to jail because he promised he would never will of us this is what stage, this is what he's done to the country i mean, if anything, this show, it gets a little bit of a microcosm of the country, but i just have to say ryan you know, that there is a lot of reporting of trump, both attempting and succeeding to

direct his government to go after his political enemies he's, you know, that that is true, right? which political enemies that he gets arrested he tried, he lived arrested once he gets back in the i'm not i didn't see schiff. >> i just want to get him arrested, but you also don't want hillary going to jail and she did it. i don't put words in my mouth he got her arrested is a quote, obviously. yeah. i said that he attempted to use the government against his political enemies. that's, that is true. and so the idea that he says things and then doesn't try to do them is not borne out by facts. he says things and then often tries to do them, two things. >> one, the blow vacating. i think that people sit there and say, all right a normal feel like i don't care, trump's annoying. i but i like his policies and that's fine. the second thing is that a lot of presence, much of the political enemies using the government trump did not get any, i mean, that's the truth obama use the irs against his political enemies that did happen but he did

guardrails around lanny, upon how do you feel so confident in because he was president already and he didn't want to i want to get some other things in, but again, ryan, please brock obama was either you have you have no evidence of barack obama directly you ask the irs to go after any political enemies. they just how you to you have no evidence of brock obama was involved in that. >> you have to acknowledge that they did though. but i don't i don't have an irs to go as administration. that administration debts false, but we're going to move on. we're going to move on because i want to i want to play the other things that donald trump said and other people well, that he went after it was there was more there was more listened i think he's angry. >> he pretends not to be, but i think he's an angry guys, nasty guy he's got a little bit of an edge and now he is angry about a lot of things.

van jones total sleazebag need. thank this one. this one. that one, that one you know, when he didn't think was donald trump. i think zelenskyy is one of the greatest salesman i've ever seen. every time he comes in, we get 100 billion dollars. who else got that kind of money in history, there has never been and that doesn't mean i don't want to help them because i feel very badly for those people but he should never have let that war start that lowers a loser i talk about blaming interview. it's a loser and is not zelenskyy. >> i mean, look, a lot of people, whether you want to agree with it or not, and i have my differences with the former president on whether or not we should support ukraine. but a lot of americans look at how much money we've allocated to ukraine and a lot how do people wonder why are we spending so much money on this conflict? >> that and i get that but the main part which is that he has had zelenskyy should not have

let the war start. zelenskyy didn't start the war. who i agree that putin obviously started the war at that point. is that a lot of people look at him? how much money we spent on this conflict. and they're asking themselves, my roads are crumbling, my schools suck. we just have major disasters across the country. fema doesn't have enough money. >> i don't live for a lot of i don't live in that country by the way, america is not that horrible. >> brian. >> very good out of new york and new york right well city, brian, that all roads or not, i loved my roads are not probably in schools don't suck. i just i just think maybe your for tyre merit, maybe you're fortunate enough to put your kids and darn good schools, but they're not school. there are a lot of town americans great who do have to send their kids to terrible schools. that is a fact because of their zip codes well, my kids go to great. i live in a great neighborhood. >> that's yourie