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under threat continuously. we experienced this in iraq and afghanistan where we had keras leaders who knew they were constantly being watched intelligence was driving their potential location. so you will see them moving quite frequently maybe sleeping at two or three different places throughout a week, or maybe even more. so they are moving and that puts them in a position where they pop up somewhere. and i think in this particular situation, i can see in my mind's, i assume we're probably came out of but tunnel entrance inside this building realized that he and his two compatriots were surrounded and didn't have much of a chance other than to fight. and that's what happened so those are the things where sometimes is carl clausewitz the old prussian philosopher used to say, chance plays a part in war. we call it well that luck. >> but sometimes terrorists will stumble into the bull's-eye and this is what happened yesterday. and i think the israelis were quite

fortunate to find him as he popped out of a tunnel and so peter bergen similar is gone. >> he was the leader of hamas hassan nasrallah is gone, the leader of hezbollah he's, you could call them decapitation attacks, right? you take out the leadership of a terror movement, but israel has some experience with this. how has it worked out in the past? >> well, not very well in the sense that, you know, israel killed one of the leaders of hamas early on, shakier seen hamas grew bigger after that fact israel also killed the military commander of hezbollah in damascus and 2008, imad mughniyeh yeah hezbollah grew stronger after that. obviously, the fact that a lot of hezbollah leaders have been taken out at a lot of hamas leaders are being taken out does make a difference. however, you know, who's going to replace ship while it could well be his brother mohammed sinwar who is as militant as

his brother and as unlikely to be sort of good good-faith negotiator as his brother proved to be so. >> hamas also is not like al-qaeda. there's a lot of discussion. this is like getting been loud and from a psychological point of view, yes but i'll kinda was a relatively small group of a few hundred people hamas has 20,000 fighters. a lot of them have been killed, but a lot of them haven't been killed so i think it's a tactical victory is not a strategic victory. >> general, how can israel use this? on the ground inside gaza, particularly in trying to get the hostage. i don't know if there's a military solution to getting the hostages freed. it may be that, that is political, but from a military standpoint, what kind of opportunity does this? provide well, first, john, what i'd say is i completely agree with peter on this you know, having decapitated terrorist organizations in my lifetime in combat we were always

high-fiving each other because you've hit a main target. >> but the next day, a car bomb will go off or a missile will explode in your area of operation. there are a lot of fighters left in hamas, even though israel has decimated what israel could do, is potentially you see the palestinian people there reports from intelligence sources that saying, just like the revolution against al-qaeda in iraq, the people of palestine have seen the terror that this can rot among their citizens. so they have an opportunity, israel has an opportunity to use this as a psychological weapon. so many of their leaders have been dead. israel might say so, what are you going to do now is to support them are two nazis support them anymore in the gaza. so that becomes an opportunity if they use it correctly. but again, i think they will have a measured approach to this. they will continue to go after fighters that will be launching rockets. and i would bet there will be

some attacks coming out of gaza in the near future to prove that they are still alive and well but at the same time, they can use it as an opportunity for to persuade the palestinian people that you have to get rid of this organization that has been leading you and that becomes a tipping point. we've seen that in other wars, and it's possible today that israel might use that same approach. >> peter if you're saudi arabia, the uae, jordan is today different for you in regards to how you're viewing the situation on the ground you, know, i mean, i think the big thing that they're waiting for is what is israel's response to iran? >> i mean, privately, they will probably hope for quite a significant response against iran. and as you know john, the israeli war cabinet has been debating what precisely that strike could be president biden has said, do not attack iranian nuclear sites the power to record of president biden's saying things that the israelis pay attention to. i don't think there's been particularly

strong but obviously that would be a huge blow and something i think, the saudis would at least privately applaud because of course they're very concerned about and iranian nuclear weapon. so i think this is obviously a big story but i think if you're looking from a wider strategic point of view from the saudis point of view, they look really looking at what is israel going to do? with this potential iran strike. that has been in the works now for almost three weeks generally got about 30 seconds left. what do you think this does mean are what do you think israel will do at this point with iran? they have to be emboldened to a certain extent original target sets and that would be smart to do perhaps not go as harshly as they were planning to go against iran as a retaliation for the missile strike. that would be smart. i think they still i agree with peter. i think they still will conduct it's an operation of some size and magnitude against the iranian territory but

hopefully it will be reduced to show, hey, we know we're hitting your proxies hard now we're going to back off a little bit and see what iran's reaction would be. and i think that would certainly be something that would be welcomed by the other countries in the middle leads peter bergen general mark hertling, always great to speak with both of you. thanks so much okay. so what could go wrong an election year tradition, the setting a fancy charity dinner in new york benefiting catholic charities. the setup is that the tradition is both presidential candidates in an election year, they come, they speak pope fun and offer friendly roast of themselves and their opponent, donald trump, was there in person supposed to tell a few self-deprecating jokes this evening. so here it goes i've got nothing fortunately, governor walz has in here, i'm self but don't worry, hill say that he was he's going to say he's the only piece of advice

i would have for her and the event that she went since would be not to let her husband, doug anywhere near the nannies, just keep on more that saddened sc1. >> but like what nannies they don't even have junk. anyway kamala harris did not attend the dinner after campaigning in wisconsin all day instead, sending in a video as you see there, with snl alum molly shannon joining us right now, cnn political commentators, maria cardona and scott jennings. thanks for being here guys. okay. that was last night. let's talk about today because the impact of the alphabet dinner on in political terms is very little. >> though good fodder for watching soundbites. >> it wasn't areas. >> i mean, he has got your hilarious. let's move on to michigan. >> the road. could it be in michigan today? harris is heading to grand rapids, lansing, in oakland county, which is a suburb of detroit. donald trump is going to be an oakland county as well. i don't think there happy. there's going to be a joint appearance this will be the first time that he's heading

back to rally there since he was in detroit and trash detroit. do you think that should be his message to this time around? >> oh, look, i think his message ought to be that under republican governance whether that's at the white house level or at the u.s. senate level where we have a big race going on in michigan, you're going to do better and that was this message when he was at the detroit economic club before, but he said he trash detroit. he did though it no one can deny the decades of decline in detroit and he's asking them to try something different and i know a lot of people in detroit one thing they will say, you don't know when he's you used to because as many people live there and, you know, stop but the detroit as i will be there and i will be there in a few weeks detroit is doing very well. >> detroit is coming back detroit from where it was is doing very well and people are very crowded, which opia people are noon unknown to stop know, but people are very proud of changing of changing the name in the view of detroit yeah, you know, i think his message here under republican policies, you'll do better and under democratic policies you got

decline. it's a pretty simple message and that's really as much as for a lot of urban areas in the country. >> maria kent county is where grand rapids is and that's where harris is going to start our day so it's an interesting john and jeff zeleny were talking about earlier. it's definitely a county to keep an eye on and it's very interesting for this very reason it's leaned republican. it leaned republican for years. trump won the county in 2016 biden then won the county in 2020 when it comes to outreach in a critical place like that, do you think the strategy should be turning out more democrats are winning over more republicans there? yes. and in a utopian political strategy, it's all but if there's one, you need to focus on more, which is it? >> well, i speak good thing about the kamala harris campaign in terms of its robust infrastructure, is that she can do both and she should do both. and she is doing both because in this in this area where we are now, the timing, the

constricted timing of her campaign, and the nature of how everything is going to be won on the margins. kate, she must do both. and her message is focused on exactly that. because the fact of the matter is to turn out more democratic voters she has to make sure that she talks about what she's going to do for her term in four years, what she's going to continue to do in terms of focusing on economic growth for everyone and also remind people that debacle that trump was when he was there for four years, you know, my different scott loves to talk about how everything was great under republican rule. while under republican rule with donald trump at the helm, he absolutely put our economy in the toilet when he refused to understand how to be the leader during a global pandemic refusing to accept the science of covid lost millions of american jobs, hundreds of

thousands of americans died on his watch businesses were shuttered, which is why you saw city's going into decline. and the fact of the matter is that under the biden-harris administration, those cities are coming back, including detroit. and so she is doing both. and she's also focused on showing republicans that it is time to turn the page, the hundred of republicans that she had at the event that she had earlier this week. the republicans that worked for donald trump in his own cabinet and in the oval office that are now how the ones that are saying this man is a danger to the country is also an important message. kate. so she's doing both and she's going to continue to do both as she should there's a new some new reporting you can do. >> i mean, honestly, because i want to destroy your riding of the narrative on covid. first of all, viruses don't carry the president is they don't care what party you're in. every

democrat and leftist in the country. one of the economy in our society shut down more people died of covid under joe biden was not on any economy donald trump, people, no one knew what was going on and that's what happened let me accept your framing of it, then. what maria just said is complete but and finally in finally, he got operation warp speed, got the vaccine, kamala harris was saying she'd never take a trump vaccine. i mean, honestly, to talk about leadership and what happened during the pandemic in somehow say that the virus would have gone away faster of donald trump hadn't been the president is a total rewriting of what happened. but whatever let's let the denied the science scott i'm sure. >> i'm sure for the virus cared very deeply what he said vaccine and secret while telling everyone else to inject bleach. i'm sorry. that's not also also debunked, but you can't deny the actual beach commentary even didn't even do both and it came out against, i'm i'm moving on. >> he definitely said that

we're looking into fancy things in fun, things that you can do with billy gave us the day he okay moving on this is just out from politico that i found fascinating. john berman is one who flagged it. so there were conversations donald trump has recently we've seen he has canceled some interviews, canceled with cnbc, canceled with another mvc, one of our dear friends, christine romans canceled an interview with that this is what politico is reporting now, they there were conversations with the shade room to potentially sit down with donald trump and in conversations earlier this week when describing why an interview hadn't come together just yet, a trump adviser told the shade room producers that trump was quote exhausted and refusing some interviews, but that could change at any time. this was according to two people that were familiar with the conversations that he was exhausted trump's national press secretary, karoline leavitt, made clear that she was not part of the back-and-forth in the shade room with the shade room regarding the interview, but said the idea he's exhausted is unequivocally false. >> now this would be

from the trump campaign would be going wacky about if they had said that joe biden was exhausted or even if kamala harris was fatigued at all, what do they do with this well, i think number one at the end of any campaign you pick and choose the things that work best for you. this is why i'm sure kamala harris didn't show up the chicago economic club forum this week are turned down time magazine or didn't show up at the al smith than our last night in number two. >> so what he's doing a ton of stuff, tons of events. >> he gave an amazing standup set last night that had the most epic roasts of the campaign season i mean, he's doing plenty. he's doing fine. i don't think his campaign has anything to worry about from this reporting this morning, he looks pretty vigorous to me exhausted thoughts, maria, final thought? yeah, he's old. he is an old man. he is not very healthy. he doesn't look very healthy last night, there were some chuckles. scott and i were on onset last night in new york and we laughed, but he

completely missed the mark. it was cringy, it was insulting. and every time he he's now in public and in a rally, you can see his mental decline almost in real time. everyone who has seen him now versus even 2016 and 2020. absolutely say he is not the man he was and so for his own campaign to say that he is exhausted, i get it. he's an old man and so that also leads to the contrast of somebody new, somebody fresh, a fresh face and kamala harris, who has the vigor, who has the temperament, and who understands how to be a real leader at a critical moment in time for our country days to go friends and we're still here. >> richard scott. thank you. john this morning soon as this morning, swipe right or left, i just was too quick. >> i wanted to wait until it was it was slowing dems rewinding me, rewind now to selina rewind the tape. welcome to friday this morning swipe,

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kamala harris, wednesday at nine eastern on cnn arizona prosecutors say all charges have now been dropped against a deaf black man with cerebral palsy who is beaten by phoenix police. >> remember this video after he did not respond to their orders, 34 tyrone thirty-four-year-old tyron mcalpin was initially accused of theft and then officers claimed that he took a fighting stance. what stands when they approached and they beat him and tased him after that, the county attorney now says that she came to the decision to drop the charges after personally reviewing the evidence, speaking with senior attorneys, as well as community members, the officers involved in the incident, you're still an active duty with an internal investigation underway. now, this one is bit of a head scratcher. a former olympic snowboarder is now on the run, accused of running a drug trafficking ring in the united states, the fbi is offering a

$50,000 reward for information leading to the arrest of bryan wedding. agents say his group moved 60 tons of cocaine a year and also ordered the killings of four people he's 34-years-old, he's also charged as well now charged with murder and drug crimes and the fbi believes he could be hiding in mexico and it is a transformation catching some kansas city chief and tay tay swift swift fans off guard. travis kelce is new look that's not it. >> just wait. >> new look for his role on the effects for a series of grotesque gary one followers reaction online. >> what in the billy ray kelces debut in the ryan murphy show earlier this month marked his first big scripted role as it is very clear, he and taylor swift continue their domination of all things american culture. >> you would look fantastic stick with a bit of a mullet watch party in the back. >> what do they say business is already in the bag.

>> so many i have like hairstyles, dresses that do that. >> it's a real thing. >> travis kelce underexposed, i would say alright new this morning and exclusive look at the ever-increasing confluence of religion and politics. >> preachers pushing the donald trump is god's chosen leader, cnn's donie o'sullivan went deep we have to take god and put him back into the very moral fabric of this country. >> otherwise, we will continue to see that decay, just like rome rome fell. and so we'll america >> you going all these battleground states? as i said, it's not just a battleground no battleground in the spirit trump was sent from god. i do i do. >> how many divine intervention god? >> calls people, and they're

not perfect people. so he has to call someone that's going to take a stand and that's what trump is doing. he is fulfilling telling his calling. >> it's a few weeks before election day and christian singer, preacher and trump supporter sean fois, is here outside the north carolina state capitol we're going to plead and the blood over the capital fois didn't mention trump's name at event at all. but the political undertones were very clear. >> we plead the blood of jesus your blood speaks a better word, then whatever is happening inside that building, you're traveling to every state capitol. >> yeah. just tell us the significance of it feels like it's more acceptable a lot of times in capitals to have a drag drag queen reading this to kids rather than christians worshipping. and so my heart is like, hey let's empower people in the church to understand the significance of what happens in that building really were in

many ways, putting the politicians on notice in that building. hey, that churches alive. we're aware and there are things that we're going to stand for and things that we're going to stand against there's no official religion of this country. >> you would agree religion but this country was based on his christianity. i mean, for anyone to go and in dispute that they're completely ignorant and blind you believe in freedom of religion. >> people can be, people can be of different faiths and practice as they wish. >> but this is a christian country this is what it was founded on. and that is what makes america so phenomenally great. >> what does that mean though? let's, let's ask that question. what does it mean america is a christian country. we have a constitution that is rooted in liberal democracy. we don't arrive at the moment there can constitution with just the bible unless you're buying a trump bible which already has the american constitution in it

this was the flag that went into the senate when the doors were broken firstnet pastor ben marsh almost four years ago, the christian flag, after i saw this sermon that was posted online where he explains the role of christianity in january 6 they thought they were doing the work of god because pastors and leaders have liked meyer says equating christianity and american patriotism the way some of the trump movement do is dangerous. it can create a call like attitude towards the leaders that are there because they're no longer just oh, that's the right guy. like his policies policies now, it's oh, jesus has chosen that person. so we have to follow that person to wherever they go. >> a pastor marshes describing is christian nationalism. >> i believe that's a term that's been weaponized to cut to try to put christians into a corner, right? where we don't exercise our faith in the public square. >> but pastor marsh disagrees.

he's worried that christian nationalism could lead to more violence. >> we are in a time when political violence is just kind of the air that we're breathing and people are so afraid it comes back to fear. so trump supporters looking at democrats, if they win, they're going to commit all these atrocities. you have christian leaders are saying they're going to lock you up. they're going to take away your pulpits just rampant lives, promoting the god bless the usa bible, fire from a distancing himself from christian nationalism, trump has embraced us even selling a $60 bible complete with the founding documents you brought me a trump bible. god bless the usa and then we say the grace of the lord, jesus christ nice to be with you all amen and then all of a sudden you have the declaration of independence what's the implication there? donie that government has been set in place to enact the will of christ somehow honestly, if breaks my heart, what about to people who say, you're overreacting?

>> i love my country i am a christian. >> i love the bible. i love the founding documents. watch so bad about putting them together. in one book as a local pastor with my local church i think what's so bad about this not just this bible, but the whole movement is it is enticing people to do things that really aren't christian, that make them feel like they're doing something that's christian and that's all timidly the problem. >> all this partisan nonsense is that it's all designed to make people think that they're doing something for jesus when the, when they're really not, they're doing something for trump and look, they're going to do something for whoever replaces trump. >> so interesting and donie o'sullivan joins us right now, that final discussion right there gets to the crux of it all the connections between religion and politics. now, whether or not there should be these connections a way they are in the connections and you got to this in your piece between election