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studio appearance on fox and friends. >> this morning, sitting there in the camp surrounded by the co-host, the former president took the opportunity to slam vice president kamala harris and also to push back on her recent comments, calling him unhinged and unstable these people are misinformation people. >> they'll say, let's go out with this when they've tried many different things they tried, he's a dictator. he's going to take over the whole world. it doesn't seem to be working. i am the most stable human being gold back with me now, also with us cnn media analyst, sara fischer. good to see both of you. he also made this what i thought was really interesting admission in that in that interview this morning, talking specifically about his jokes last night at the dinner. here we go. >> you're material was real funny. who wrote it? who helped you with? well, i've had a lot of people helping a lot of

people, couple of people from fox actually, i shouldn't say that, but they wrote some jokes and for the most part, i didn't like any of them them. the fact that he had some folks from fox help him write those jokes hadas, that seems unusual. >> yeah, very unusual. an absolutely incredible that he would just be saying this on air and that the coast are sort of laughing along saying, yeah, sure, that's fine. i mean, listen we all know that a lot of fox news host and on-air personalities are very outwardly in favor of president or former president donald trump. they want him to win, but to hear him come out and say, yeah, i had some people from fox helped me write these jokes. i have asked fox news for comment about this. who are these people? we want to know who they were, what did they actually help? is this allowed? how does this encouraged? because i can tell you that at cnn, i'm pretty sure we would not be allowed to know like politician right there jokes for a dinner like this. now this is not the first time we've actually seen a fox news personalities helping donald trump outwardly, if you remember, in 2018 ahead of the midterms sean hannity actually

went on stage during a rally that donald trump was hosting ahead of the midterms and that caused a lot of drama around that as well. so we're still reporting this out, trying to figure out exactly how these jokes were britain, who from fox may have helped him. and is this actually true? >> yeah, it is really something i was also struck donald trump has canceled the fair number of planned interviews, as we understand it, just week alone, we're hearing about cnbc also a separate interview that was supposed to happen with nbc. and then this morning, a political reporting that there were conversations for the former president to sit down for an interview view with the shade room. but the producers were told trump was a quote exhausted and refusing some interviews. his advisers had said at the time, but that could change trump's team is pushing read that this morning, sara and then to see him pop up, actually sitting on the couch. he calls in a lot, but to see

him sitting on the couch in that very friendly environment. i just found it to be interesting timing yet will he goes where he's comfortable, right? >> and it's less energy where you're comfortable. i also think in the final throes of the campaign, the biggest focuses getting your message out to those undecided voters in swing states. and so when you think about some of the cancellations, cnbc, for example, you're reaching a business audience that's mostly closely still you can see why they would not want to necessarily go out of their way to schedule that in pencil, that one in i think donald trump brings energy to the places where he knows that he's going to have an easy interview. and that's another part of this. now the shaved room is interesting because they have a very large young african american audience that's actually critical for donald trump in these final days and weeks leading up to the election so when politico reported that donald trump was exhausted, i thought okay, that makes sense for this particular interview. that's not necessarily a strategic thing to be missing, something like that. but i would expect him to continue to show up in places where he feels like he has a really safe crowd. again, last night at the al smith thinner,

he sounded so comfortable making jokes that's where he's going and up a lot for the next few weeks yeah. >> i was struck too. i mean, there are a number of moments in watching him this morning when he was on fox, but he said twice that he thought the network should not air negative ads. and then at the end of the interest that he was going to go straight to rupert murdoch. and here's what he said. he was going to tell him i can't talk to anybody else who don't put a negative commercials for 21 days, don't put and don't put on there. they're horrible people that come in ally i'm going to say rupert, please do it this way. right? and then we're going to have a victory point where there's sort of like nothing really shocks you anymore but always saying the quiet part out loud. sometimes you just still again, get to pause for a moment. >> yeah. i mean, he also called out fox chief suzanne scott by name on truth social earlier, essentially saying the same thing because i think in his mind fox news needs to be 100% behind him all the time. he sees that as his ultimate safe

space where he has the support were his supporters are watching as well. and so he sees it as, you know, as traitorous, almost if fox news is doing anything that is against him, if it has any sort of contributor like jessica tarel over any sort of on-air person? who might be speaking out against him. he sees that and saying, this is my home, this is my home-based. why are you doing such a thing as even you know, the basic tenants of journalism so incredible though just to see him sing all of this just out loud, not only talking about going straight to rupert murdoch, but also talking about, you know, how fox darfur's may have helped him again toward turn the tables just a mitt and imagine if this was happening with vice president kamala harris talking about nbc or something like that, they would be a huge absolute meltdown by a lot of people, especially on the right listen, there's never a shortage for things for us to discuss. >> that's for sure hadas gold, sara fischer, nice to see you both. thank you. >> just ahead, vice president harris slamming trump's threats to use the military

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calls americans, who disagree with him. the enemy from within and yes, and says that if reelected, he would use the military to go after them so just a reminder, here are some of those comments that he has made i think the bigger problem is the enemy from within, and it should be very easily handled by, if necessary, by national guard or if really necessary by the military they because they can't let that happen. it is the enemy from within and they're very dangerous. their marxists and communists and fascists. and the sec so raises an important question. could donald trump actually use military forces to quash an enemy from within? worthy, back in the white house? so we wanted to step back. we want to just take a facts first approach to this. so joining me now, cnn law enforcement contributor steve moore and cnn legal analyst, carrie cordero. good to see

both of you as always. so carrie, let's start here. there's yes, there's the political argument. yes, there's a lot of rhetoric would a president actually have that kind of authority? he has suggested that he could use both the national guard and the u.s. military to go after americans who don't support him okay so let's start erica, with what the law provides. first of all, there is a general presumption against using national guard or the military for anything that's law enforcement related. so there are laws that are against that. and so there's only exceptional circumstances where when there is a credible reason of fear for them to be used in domestic law enforcement. they can be used second, national guard in particular has various legal authorities that it can be used under. generally it's under the authority of governors. there are certain circumstances when a president can authorize them to act, but again, those are things that other presidents have used it's for example, assistance and natural disasters, sometimes border protraction,

but there's a legal framework under what those things are authorized with the former president appears to be talking about is something that would be a corruption of the use of the national guard or the military. when we talk about something that sounds like going after political opponents, those would be unlawful directions. and so it would require a corruption throughout the leadership of all of those organizations from the secretary of defense on down in order for something like that to be effectuated and he wouldn't comments like these are made for presidential candidate did it? not a fringe group are some lone wolf comment on social media. how does that change the approach from a law enforcement perspective >> change it at all. i mean you can say a lot of things on the campaign trail. imagine somebody saying something on the campaign trail that will never happen or is actually impossible and are our

constitution, our laws prohibit the use of the military against civilians. it's just, it's in the posse comitatus act. it is rigidly enforced. i've been in situations where we've dealt with the national guard during the la riots, for instance, when there was what would be called a wide spread insurrection or a riot. though they were called in. but by the california governor, the president cannot cannot, under the law call up the military to deal with us civilians but just to follow on that in terms of given these comments, given what we saw in 2020 and early 2021, it steve, how do you think some of these comments are impacting different law enforcement agencies from the local up to the federal level in terms of how they're preparing for potential violence on or around election day

they're not impacting them any more than the circumstances themselves. in the fbi, we would hear, you try to insulate yourself from the political world. and so the president can say certain things. it might be a situation where that would influence you to believe that maybe there was going to be some violence on one side or the other because of those comments but what they say you look at it only as a cause and effect. >> what could his statements do for the civilians who hear it erica and i always go ahead, gary i would also add erica, there is one very specific thing that the federal government law enforcement is doing in particular with respect to january where are the upcoming january 6 of 2025, which is that it has now been

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casarez has been following this for us. so jean, bring us up to speed here if you would. >> yeah, this is a very complicated case. it's opening statements that are beginning today after seven years since 2017, when abigail williams, liberty german had an afternoon three no schools. so a relative drop them off at the maanen trails and delphi, indiana. delphi, indiana is a very small town they don't know what crime is. less than 3,000 people, everybody knows, everybody. but the girls were on a bridge. and we want to show a picture because the cell phone from one of the girls captured a man who appeared to be on the bridge with them and is believed a short time later that they were murdered. there's audio that was released on this picture that says the man says guys down the hill, there's much more to this video and that jury should be shown that that but their bodies were found down the hill the next day. they had been stabbed, but was

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