trump go to trial? >> is he immune? how was he behaving after the 2020 election? one of the things that is in the public record here are snippets of transcripts from the house january 6 committee as they're interviewing people what they saw trump doing even on january 6, one of those is a transcript from a white house employee who spoke to the house committee in june of 2022, and that white house employee unnamed, says that they're rioting down there at the capitol and he trump was like, oh, really, and then i was like, well, let's go see, i'm taking off his outer coat that he's wearing right now. i get the tv ready for him and hand him over the remote and he starts watching it. and i stepped out to get him diet coke. come back in and that's pretty much it for me as he's watching it, seeing it for himself, trump there in the white house. that's sort of witness evidence that the apartment has details in these new documents aren't kaitlan. thank you very, very much. and to our viewers. thanks for

watching. i'm wolf blitzer in the situation room. erin burnett outfront starts right now news, trump and harris holding dueling rallies in michigan tonight as obama gets ready to rally the base this hour in arizona, not to be left out. >> elon musk live in pennsylvania. this hour so we are here tonight for all all of this live across the country to bring you all of this action plus harris seizing on trump, canceling interviews left and right, reportedly because of exhaustion. trump fighting back moments ago and as san francisco truly one of america's most liberal cities, going conservative we have a special report tonight it may surprise you. >> let's go outfront >> i'm erin burnett outfront tonight battleground, michigan. so at this hour there are dueling rallies, harris and trump, both in the state every vote there matters tonight in fact, at one point, they were

both in oakland county, which is a crucial county at one time, they didn't republican stronghold, truly are republican stronghold recent elections though it shifted obama, hillary clinton, and biden all wanted in recent elections trump's trying to seize it back. >> and that's not all one of the biggest stars of the democratic party. >> former president barack obama is about to rally voters in the must-win state of arizona. we're going to bring that to you live when i'm telling you is 7:00 on a friday night, there out and we are here and obama is about to start crisscrossing the country, campaigning across harris, all of next week. so you see on the map he's going to hit four battleground states over five days. and meanwhile, tech titan now top trump surrogate, elon musk is in pennsylvania offering people there $100 to help get new voters registered. part of a series sort of townhall are speaking events that he's doing in the state of pennsylvania we're entering the final stretch here. and what may be people think it might be who knows, honestly, the most

amazing thing is nobody knows if it will be the closest presidential race of the century. it is deeply personal though harris unleashing a new line of attack in the final days questioning trump's low-energy been hearing reports that his team, at least the saying he's suffering from exhaustion and that's apparently excuse for why he's not doing interviews. and of course he's not doing the cnn townhall he refuses to do another debate and you know, look being president united states, probably one of the hardest jobs in the world and so we really do need to ask if he's exhausted being on the campaign trail is he fit to do the job all right. >> that comment got under the foreign president's skin. he has responded not once but twice. >> i've done 48 days now without arrest. and i've got that loser who doesn't have the energy of a rapid totally when you've seen me take even a little bit of a risk, not only am i not i'm not even tired

really exhilarating, you know, why would killing her in the polls will go through it pretty quick. jail then i'm going over to make it a little speech. you've heard of 10,000 people you think this is an easy life i have right i go from here, i sit at my finished. they say, no, sir, you have one more speech. oh, good. where is it? >> it says you exhilarated, so meanwhile, vice president kamala harris tonight addressing a question that continually comes up that is what would she have done differently than joe biden? >> i mean, to be very candid with you. you even including mike pence vice presidents are not critical. >> their presence i think that really actually, in terms of the tradition of it and also just going forward, it does not make for a productive and important relationship we are live on the ground at both the harris and trump events. >> so we're gonna be taking those live when they do happen. also going to elon musk's town hall. and of course, as i said, will be hearing from the former

president barack obama all this hour. so let's get anything else we can and let's start with priscilla alvarez because she's outfront waterford township. that is where harris will be speaking shortly. priscilla, as i mentioned, you're in oakland county, which both campaigns have identified is so crucial clinton and biden won it easily, but it used to be a republican stronghold. so, what is her focus on this county this late in the election say about her standing in michigan well, they're certainly trying to walk down there they're coalition and trying to build upon the gains that president biden made in 2020. >> because as you mentioned, they know that it can easily lean republican and i've spoken to campaign officials who have said, in some ways they have to vote limit losses with some corners of the democratic party in this state that may have otherwise vote who did democrats just don't have that shot free. >> so if we can get back to her, we will. but in the meantime, i want to go to the trump event in detroit because

alayna treene is there and alayna, you're noticing something interesting inside that venue where you are what, what is it? >> that's right. so we are here in downtown to troy run this pretty large venue. you can't really tell erin from where you are. i mean, right behind you can see the crowd, but behind the camera where i'm speaking toward, it's actually pretty empty. they have not been able to fill this and i will also tell you that it took us more than you hours. they were two hours delayed in getting us into the venue questions about i'm told it was not a security issue according to two us secret service so official so questions about whether they were, you know, changing some of the optics in years. so that's just one thing to keep in mind. but look, i do want to tell you about why donald trump is back in the state because obviously like michigan is a crucial battleground and not only does it have 15 electoral votes, but i will say when i talk to donald trump's senior advisers, they actually tell me that adam, the three blue wall states, of course, of harvard, michigan, that includes pennsylvania and wisconsin,

there are actually the most confident in michigan, even as we know that last week went on donald trump was here in detroit once again he was speaking to the detroit economic club and he actually insulted detroit while being in detroit, he called it a developing city. he said it was more developing. then countries like china and that received a lot of backlash. now, i actually did aaron talk to a number of people on the ground here today asking them about that comment, particularly those trump supporters and rally attendees are from detroit. all of them told me that they were not offended, though many of them did not agree that this is a developing city, that it was a once-great city and no longer is a really interesting those remarks from trump though i will they for kind of reminiscent of what we had heard when he had criticized know walkie to republicans. he has said that it was a horrible city, even though the republic i'm already was holding their convention there over the summer. he later came out to clean that up and say, i love milwaukee, so i'll

be watching tonight whether he tries to do the same thing about his remarks in detroit last week all right. >> and we'll be checking in with you. of course, lynda, so thank you all right. >> everyone's with me now here just to begin, karen harris and trump, both in michigan and you know what's interesting when you see them in the same county, a county that i said used to be republican stronghold, but in recent elections, three in a row has gone democratic, right? so harris is choosing to spend time there right now and, you know, alayna's reporting that michigan is the blue wall state that the trump campaign is most confident about. how do you see karen and are you confident that the democrats will win michigan? >> well, erin, thanks for having me. of course, i went through 2016, so i'm not confident of anything until the new president is sworn in. let me just say that right off the bat. but we're feeling good. i'm feeling good about michigan, honestly. i mean, this is where ground game really matters. and here's the significance of what we just saw. so common harris is an okay glenn county that is part

of expanding the map. she is trying to broaden her coalition. she's talking to independents and center, right? and center left and far left, and independence, right. donald trump can't even fill a venue with his base so that says to me that i guess the good folks of detroit where they're sending their own signal of how they feel about what he said the last time he was there. but look, as i say, this is more ground game matters because right now it is all about getting people out to vote so margaret, interesting, karen xiu as you, she's running up trying to run up the vote where she can as opposed to being concerned about a county that has gone democratic in the most recent elections and had gone republican before as opposed to being concerned about losing it when you talk to people on the trump campaign what are they saying about michigan? >> are they so confident confidence even when the numbers might not be with them. >> if you look at the polling averages, i think kamala harris

is only ahead by 0.6 percentage points in michigan it is a jump ball. >> what the trump campaign sees a victory path forward in michigan looks like this is, he gets a small sliver. >> they don't expect a lot of black men to vote for him there are those union voters and union households that have expressed some reservations about kamala harris and that they would come trump's way as well. he would also do as well. he hopes with white voters, white male voters, as he did in 2016, not in 2020 and he would get this sliver of arab american and muslim american voters who've expressed some concerns with the biden administration's response to israel and gaza and as he is in hamtramck and has bragged about the endorsement of the mayor there in a muslim heavy city. they would support him not only because of his foreign policy, but also trump's campaign hopes because of his social

conservative policy issues like transgender surgeries like for kids and transgender males and females in women's sports and so that's what they're wind would look like. >> it's interesting when you talk about the israel issue. interesting that if you were worried that you would go to trump it given the concerns that some of those voters might have about harris pakistan, pakistan, american pac today did endorse trump, which was interesting after introducing both campaigns, right interviewing both campaigns, sorry. jane, you heard that back-and-forth between harris and trump on the energy issue, political reported that he canceled interviews because of exhaustion so i just wanted to play a little bit more of his reaction to harris is comments about that here he is >> i haven't she doesn't go to any events. she's a loser. she has to go to any of his didn't even show up for the catholics last night at the hotel, who was itself, did they all they

are sound so today i was at fox and friends at seven in the morning. i then went to two different other appearances. i then made about 15 phone calls and, you know, to be fair, he is doing a lot, right? it did go to the al smith dinner in new york last night we were able to see him for the entire time that others were speaking. he was fully engaged. harris sent that recorded video that we saw there. he did do that interview this morning roundtable this evening, a rally tonight is that not enough well, i think given the fact that he fell asleep during an event today and the fact that his fox and friends interview featured how can i put this summer? >> nonsensical statements now granted the fayed with donald trump, is that like this is what he's been like for all long time. but i will say that the energy issue, it's clear that it is annoying him. it is clear that harris bringing that up as a north to mess. he keeps

bringing it up and it's interesting because there are specific things you can do to annoy him. one accused him of being low energy and to do something on fox that he doesn't like. and this is, this is now twice that this has taken place. so i do think it's clearly an issue for him or else they wouldn't keep bringing it up is under his skin, erin it clearly, i mean, he is he's angered by it, which maybe exactly why she's she's sort of picking up that scab well, in the land of reality, the dog won't hunt that donald trump doesn't have energy, right? >> i mean, what does he done? 59 interviews to kamala harris's 26 and she was announced he's almost more than doubled hold her at this point, and he's doing multiple events a day, but that's what both candidates should be doing. the exception to the rule shouldn't be that there might be a scheduling snafu and that trump's team might be trying to put things on the calendar that don't firm up because of other things on the schedule it's a presidential campaign. everybody should be out there. they should be doing three rallies a day. you should be doing multiple roundtable

events. you should be doing radio interviews and local television pull asides the entire time. both candidates should do it. and i would argue and i think the facts bear out donald trump is doing a lot more of all of that. then kamala harris's and because she waited so long, you're trying to engage voters and engage the media and talk through different outlets. that's why she's having to try to make up ground now because she is slipping in the polls? >> no. >> mark she did do that interview with fox this week that i know that, you know, trump's supporters found that and say, oh, she didn't do well, her supporters felt she walked into the lion's den and she fought back and she's on fire and that's how they saw it. very differently. >> but but you know, everybody noticed that including him. >> he noticed it. he brought it up at the al smith's dinner last night that she had done that interview? does it does it bother him that she did that? i mean, because there's, you know, there's gotta be a part of him that said, okay the lion's den take on that. he would see it the same way.

>> i think he's happier with her responses that they're going to use in future ads. i think erin is right. what really is the thing that bothers him? what you've mentioned that really bothers him is the fact that he's being attacked on for his energy levels in the campaign trail, i ran the numbers since october 1st, the beginning of the month in 18 days. he's done 28 events in 26 cities spread across 12 states and when kamala harris says that he is hiding from the public and the press that just drives him crazy. and she knows what she's doing. and so far it does seem to be working. he swinging at every pitch, right? >> i mean, that's the thing some of this is just about getting under someone's skin. so karen, i want to ask you about one of those many appearances that trump did today was an interview that aired today with the former professional wrestler and media personality tyrus. and i wanted to play one exchange that everyone is talking about here it is. >> we need to see the fathers

are capable of break things because we've dealt with it, especially in the last three-and-a-half years and a complete dismemberment of what it is to be a mad were under attack for everything we're well, actually manhood. yes, under jack, i see things that are so beautiful. and the next day i see them knocking the hell out of somebody for doing something that a day before i said what a wonderful thing. now, we have to get back a little bit more okay, karen, i'll be honest. >> i don't really know what he was saying after the core point there what he said, man hood is under attack now, to be fair, that was in response to somebody who said a dismemberment of what it is to be a man which that's just not uptake literally but when he says man who is under attack, does, is that effective with a certain group of voters? i mean, you know, you can say, okay, i didn't know maxim made endorsements the magazine, but they did come out and endorse trump today. >> yeah. look, he believes that and we saw this, you know, all the, way back to 2016 when he would sort of and frankly,

years ago in the 80s, right. in new york, that was part of his swagger that he was this kind of playboy. and that's kind of part of his definition of manhood. and that is something he has put forward time and time again. it's what that infamous, you know, you can grab them by the, you know, what was all about at the same time. i think men are a lot smarter. most man than donald trump. i should say the majority of american men, i think they're smart enough to know that he's a huckster and he's been trying to you know, he's he's telling a shtick they can either buy it or not. i think they're smart enough to know that the lives of their daughters and their sisters and their mothers, the women in their lives are in danger by some of the by what donald trump would do. and i think they're smart enough to recognize that he is actually not going to be good for the bottom line, given that so into tariffs, which will increase inflation. so mark at it when trump says will actually manhood is under attack there

times that he does say things for hyperbole sake or whatever, but it would actually seem this is one of those ones. >> he actually means i don't know. is that what you understand it to be? >> that's a general belief in republican and conservative circles, and that's a dividing line that we're seeing in this campaign where there was a recent article in the washington post accused the trump campaign of being fueled by too much toxic masculinity. and the trump campaign read that as essentially an attack on trump for just standing up for men. this is one of the men are from mars and women are from venus sort of campaigns that we're looking at all right, we're going to take a break, but all of you are sitting with me because obviously we have so much coming up this hour. aaron, marc jane, and karen. and next, we are standing by for president obama to take that stage live. we will bring you his remarks when he begins speaking and we're also live at an elon musk event and philadelphia because he's hosting events across the state. are that some democrats, john fetterman, senator john fetterman to lulu garcia, that this is a, this is very serious

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coughing a little. bit. i think you're still going catch what i'm saying here because here in arizona, voting has already started return your mail ballot today there's no reason to delay what are you waiting for your polling place on election day, november 5, he said pointer, just remember to bring your photo id this, he said but, but as ruben mentioned, you need to make a plan and if you've got any confusion any any uncertainty

about what your plan is to vote, then you go to i will vote vote.com slash asi and then once you've got to plan, then you get to make sure your friends and family make a plan to vote to chance to choose a new generation of leadership in this country and start building a better and stronger and fairer and more hopeful america is going to be tight. >> and it's going to be tight because a lot of americans are struggling right now as a country we've been through a lot over the last few years we've had a historic pandemic, but wrecked havoc on communities and businesses

disruptions from the pandemic then cause prices to spike and that put a strain on family budgets and then a lot of ways it felt like the aspirations of working people have taken a backseat to the priorities of the rich and the powerful and the well-connected so so i understand why people are looking to shake things up i get why sometimes folks are frustrated with politics sometimes frustrated with politics understand is why anyone would think that donald trump will shake things up in a way that is good for you. that i don't understand because because there is absolutely no evidence

that this man thinks about anybody but himself donald trump is a 78-year-old billionaire who has not stopped whining about his problems since he wrote down that golden escalator nine years ago he's trying to sell you stuff he's got the hundred thousand dollar watch says this, the swiss swatch, but but nobody can actually figure out we're in switzerland. was this thing may he's got this does my favorite. he's got the trump bible once you to buy the word

of god, donald trump addition his name is going to be on there in boss run, right, right next to the luke and mark and matthew one guess. you cannot make this stuff up where these bibles are made when he can make a few bucks hawking his trump addition, bibles come on, man you can't make this stuff up but he's doing it is because what he cares about is his ego and his money and his status he's not thinking