bring their loved ones home. that means swapping sinwar's remains says one israeli source then fine matthew chance, cnn, tel aviv oh, before we go tonight, i want to note a special day for very special person on this program. i senior writer, writer marshall arbiter in its 60-years-old today, 60, which is weird to even say. i do not know how this happened. maybe because i've worked with marshal for the better part of 20 years and in my mind we're all frozen in time. i first met martin when i began filling in on news night with great aaron brown. marshall was one of his wonderful writers i might feel like we're frozen in time, but we're not and i'm thankful for every one of the days that i've gotten to work with marshall who's truly one of the most gifted writers. i've ever worked with. happy birthday, my friend, and thank you the news continues the source with kaitlan collins starts now, i have a great weekend. i'll see you monday

>> straight from the source tonight, the harris campaign now calling the vice president, todd's donald trurump is too exhausted to be president. here's how he's firing back tonight on that line of attack both campaigns are nearly colliding in michigan this evening. and a top michigan lawmaker is going to be are inside source on the latest inside the race in that state. and also check your sources. fox news's fact checking trump for something that donald trump said about fox news on fox news i'm kaitlan collins, live from tel aviv, israel. and this is the source >> we're coming to you live from tel aviv tonight, where we are learning new details about the death of yahya sinwar, the hamas mastermind behind the october 7 attack and what happens to his body now, cnn has spoken with the pathologist who performed the autopsy on

him. initially identifying him after conducting a deal in a test on his finger that was cut off by israeli soldiers, were also learning more about how yahya sinwar, who remains could be used as a potential bargaining chip to help bring home the remaining hostages. we're going to have all of that reporting for you in a moment straight from the ground here in tel aviv. but first tonight there are new developments on the campaign trail pharrell with just 18 days left to go in this 2024 race. both harris and trump are barnstorming the critical battleground of michigan tonight, where the harris campaign has opened a new line of attack on donald trump that he's just too tired to exhausted and to all over the place to be president. here's vice president harris moments to go check this out. >> he is ducking debates in canceling interviews

exhausted from the campaign trail it raises real questions about you are fit for the toughest job in the world heard president obama picking up on in arizona but tonight have you seen him lately? >> the point of a town hall meeting is to take questions he just, decided, you know what, i'm going to stop taking question and then he swaying to ave maria and ymca for about half an hour. folks are standing, they're not sure what's happening can you imagine if if if i did that, our playlist would probably be better. he said january 6 was a day of love. may it may,

january 6 sound like it was woodstock your grandpa was acting like this now there was arguing that trump is too tired to campaign. >> i should note, donald trump is on the campaign trail right now, still on stage detroit. he's been on stage for over an hour? yes, that is the city that he trashed just last week. but as donald trump got on stage tonight, got off to a bit of a rocky start as his microphone went out for nearly 18 minutes, as he stood on stage at one point, aides handed him another microphone. it also was not working. this is what happened. you can see herself the greatest job it's not love. >> it's not respect

frustrated by that. >> he often is when there were technical issues at his rallies. of course they do happen my political sources who are joining me at the top of this hour are ashley allison, the former national coalitions director for the biden-harris 2020 campaign. and doug heye, republican strategist and former rnc communications gins director. doug, i bet you you're pretty happy. you're not the person who was in charge of logistics at the trump rally tonight. clearly, i mean, it's just it's something that happens, but but he was quite frustrated. but what does it say to you when you're hearing vice president harris and obama and all of the deb surrogates getting on stage in and put pushing into this narrative about belt trump being too exhausted obviously, there's a 20 year age gap between he and vice president harris. >> well, the first thing is if donald trump does win, whoever

said if they're able to find out who said he was too exhausted, will not be serving in the trump administration. they will be told you're fired, and that's the proper thing for any campaign to do if you're leaking against your candidate, you shouldn't be around much longer. but i look, i think a lot of what harris and obama saying i agree with the 30 minutes of swaying was weird. but donald trump has been doing and saying very weird things for a long time. remember he was supposed to be toast after the access hollywood tape and he wasn't. and so i think this is a mistake to lean in this hard for her harris for two reasons. one, it raises a question about the person who was still the president united states, if anything globally happens where we need american leadership now is not donald trump or kamala harris, who's going to have to respond. it's joe biden who lot of very fair questions of whether he's up to the task. and two, it doesn't answer what voters are still saying. hang that they want from kamala harris, who are you and what are you going to do? and she struggles to answer that question even when she's asked a very basic questions of what

is your economic policy and how are you going to implement it? she needs to put meat on the bones and showing his two ways to do that point donald trump has been saying i'm off the real things for quite some time. >> so i would not expect the last week to be anything different here. >> here's what i will say about the approach that the harris campaign is taking i think it's a pretty different approach than most traditional campaigns. >> they are doing a diversified strategy. so i think when she talks about his exhaustion and she talks about him not being the same person he was eight years ago he speaking to those voters who did not want a rematch of joe biden and donald trump. and so she's saying, if you're if you were tapped out, if he was that i didn't want anything to do with this race. and now you're starting to pay attention to it because election day is just a couple of weeks away and she's saying, look, you didn't want the old guy on my side, but you sure don't want the old guy on the

republican side. so here i am. is it going to sway a large majority of voters know, but because this race is so close and we're talking about the margins, it is effective. i also agree with doug that it can't be the only thing that they're saying and it's not so she is going on interviews talking about her economic policies and whatnot. but i think they're doing a multi pronged approach that i think could actually be effective yeah. >> and i because i mean, trump himself to a degree. i mean, this is something we saw with the debate where she said something she knows he's going to respond to. i mean, if you know donald trump watched him, you have a pretty good idea. listen to what he said when he was asked by reporters about them pushing that, he it's too tired to be on the campaign trail what i can't i haven't she does he go to any events? >> she's a loser. she is or go to any of issues didn't even show up for the catholics last night at the hotel or shelter

they all they are sound bites. i've gotten 48 days now without arrest and i've got that loser who doesn't have the energy of a rapid told me when you've seen me take even a little bit of a risk, not only am i not i'm not even tired really exhilarating, you know, why would killing her in the polls okay. >> doug's you listen you listen to that, and donald trump has been is canceling some interviews. certainly we've, we've seen the host admitted it and certain situations, but he has done some interviews, but but there was one today where he does friendlier interviewers because until he was talking about the detention of january 6 defendants, who i should note are people who have been charged or convicted of crimes and comparing it to internment camps during world war ii for japanese americans listened to what trump had to say nobody's ever been treated like this nobody's ever maybe the japanese during second world war, frankly. but, you

know, they were held to that 18 days out and the tightest race that we've seen in modern history, potentially. >> what's your reaction as a republican? >> look, it's donald trump saying what donald trump typically does, which the harris campaign said, look, these guys are weird. trump and vance vance, they might have had a point, but so much of this is factored in again, when donald trump when it, when the comments came out on access hollywood, it was a huge bombshell of a political story, but ultimately didn't sway voters because this is all factored in on donald trump. it's why he sort of teflon on things like that. even when he says appalling things in front of a car cardinal at a catholic dinner, which i say as a catholic, it's factored in on him. voters know who donald trump is, whether they like them or they don't like him, they're still trying to figure out what they think about kamala harris asked today about differences

between her and biden. it's a it's a question she's been facing on the campaign trail, but it is remarkable that it seems like any move she makes it is obviously highly scrutinized. it should be. she's a presidential candidate, but trump does say things like that. they, don't get anywhere near the attention that something she says does i think donald trump, man, she didn't have the energy of the turtle referring to the tortoise and the hare parable, let not the rabbit so again, pointing out that he can't keep his word. but in that interview, he says i don't think anybody has ever been treated. let's talk about the native americans who were moved from their land. let's talk about black people who were slaves. i mean, let's talk about people who are unjustly incarcerated. unlike kim who is convicted of 34 felonies and still hasn't seen any jail time. i mean, we can go down the examples of people. if you want to compare and also january very six where people trying to overthrow our constitution and some repercussions have to happen. again, i agree with doug that i

do think some of this is baked in, but i think we have to continue to call it out even if he is to win in it out if it becomes the next president. even if he doesn't win. and he says these things we should call it out. we cannot norm melas this type of language, but i will also say this brings i've been saying this a long time, is that this is there is a double-standard, quite honestly with donald trump in anyone, but i think it is magnified right now with commonly harris and donald trump, she can do is interviews and enemy territory, so to speak. he can go on fox news and say crazy things. and it doesn't that matter. and so she needs to stick to her game, stick to her talking points, stick to her plan, and hopefully the voters will align with her november >> we'll get to ask someone who is out there campaigning for ashley allison, doug heye. thank you both. as i mentioned, these candidates are both in michigan tonight, donald trump still on stage. they both brought very different messages about the future of the war happening just next door to where i am right now in gaza, a

critical issue in michigan, of course, because it has the largest arab american population in the united states everyone must seize this opportunity to finally end the war in gaza. the suffering once and for all. >> destroy holding back, he's tried to hold him back they probably should be doing the opposite. actually president biden of holding the israeli prime minister netanyahu back from doing even more. >> i'm joined tonight by the democratic congresswoman, debbie dingell of michigan and congressman thank you for being here when you hear those messages back to back. and tonight, vice president harris was just talking about the suffering of palestinians that has been obviously a huge pillar in this war. what do you say to voters in your state who

think these two candidates have the same position towards israel? >> look this is a really complicated hard issue when i have had so many difficult, tough conversations and so many people have been impacted on all sides of this, have lost family members know people that are still being held hostage in gaza has it's been destroyed more to 40,000 civilians have died when it moved to lebanon, people are dying that are known in the community, but the jewish community knows people have been attacked and they're almost no words right now that anybody can say. that seems to be right. you just feel sick and you're scared. but to have done it trump continued to urge this war to continue, not want the hostages to be released and come home to not want a cease-fire, to not want east. i know who i'm standing with. i want peace. i want the hostages home, and i don't want to see any more people die if a voter

in michigan though is saying, i don't. harris hasn't done enough to break from president biden's stance on this. i mean, are you worried about how decisive that could be its we're standing 18 days out from this race right now. >> look i'm going to be very clear when this is a very tough issue, that factors into what's going to happen in michigan you need to understand that. and we are not going to get arab american votes at this point, there will be some the vice president recognized one of the leaders in the arab american community. there had endorsed her today. but tupac's this week won the arab american pac had recommended that people skip both the top of the ticket and the other major political organization recommended people vote for jill stein, which by the way, vote for jill stein is a vote for donald trump. and i do know that many people in the community there have been some

that are going to support donald trump, but understand that this is a man that wants to start interim camp. again wants to he was going to ban muslims when he first became president. he's going to ban most i'm centering this country so they understand that. but there are people that are just really this is a complicated issue that is not easy and it's lasted over centuries and it's just carrying us a apart in michigan yeah. >> and we saw the mayor of hamtramck who has endorsed trump appearing with him today. obviously they have a large arab american population. it as well, while the vice president was in your state today, though congresswoman, she was asked by peter alexander of nbc news again, a question that has faced her and basically every interview she's been doing lately what she would do differently than biden has done. here's part of what she said

including mike pence, vice presidents are not critical. president he's now giving greenlight with his comments that you can carve your own paths. so now that you have this ability to say, no going forward, there's no question that i bring my own experiences and mile on life experiences as the rubiales see that stands out to you in particular, either i mean, my approach to what we need to do around medicare covering home health care, worn out my experience of taking care of my mother my priority on housing home health and non prioritizing housing. >> but when you talked to michigan voters who are undecided or who don't know which way to go is a distinction like that enough for them? >> it is true some by the way had worked with joe biden for four years to try to get that home health care bill down and i know it was one of the things he wanted to done, but he's

made that i have talked to there. it is my bill with bob casey that we've been trying to their million people right now. they're on their home okay. you're waiting list senior care matters. somebody should be able to stay in their own home in the community that they choose. and by the way, it can save money. so that's one issue. but there are lots of different issues we have to go in and really do the comparison these next to 18 days. there. he says that he cares about autos outer planets post when he was president, people lost jobs. we have to tell people the truth. we have to talk to young black man who think they've got to simulate check-in, have no idea what is really happened and what happened to them and draw the comparison in the one thing that i do think it's important is people know who donald trump fears and he is weird and he is crazy. and i don't understand it. sometimes people need to see the real kamala harris. i know we got to get her into more retail politics and we had 18 days and we've got a lot of

work to do, but i'm debbie determined and we've got to make sure the country knows what dark course we have debby determined congresswoman. thank you for your time as always. >> thank you. >> up next speaking of donald trump, the one who always accuses the media of bias, now says that was fox news staffers who helped him write that speech that you saw last night at the dinner, will get their response to that. also, the details on the death of hamas leader yahya sinwar. we spoke to the pathologist who performed his autopsy and how a cutoff finger helps get the dna to identify him. that's ahead here in tel aviv sandwich. >> it's meet between bread. >> no, it's more like a taco and i weigh in on this debate, jake tapper is a sandwich, always two pieces of bread if yes, then a hotdog is not a

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sparks i'm bill weir on the california coast and this is cnn israel tonight with new reporting on the killing of hamas leader yahya sinwar. first israeli sources tell cnn's matthew chance that officials are weighing how they can leverage his remains, which are obviously in israeli custody to secure the release of hostages that are still being held in gaza. and that comes as we're also learning tonight that the autopsy results reveal that he was killed by a gunshot wound to the head cnn's jeremy diamond spoke with the chief pathologist who conducted that autopsy and it disputes the israeli military's initial account of how sinwar died with matthew and jeremy are here with me in tel aviv in germany. obviously this is interesting because initially we thought it was firefight. we know they obviously took down the building that he was in. but what did you hear from this pathologist? >> yeah, he's really military said there was a gunfight involving three militants who

they didn't know who they were. one of them clearly was sinwar in the end. and then they fired at tank shell in the building where he was it's injured. and the idea was that that was how he was killed. but i spoke with this pathologist who actually performed the autopsy last night on the body of yahya sinwar. and he tells me that it was a gunshot wound to the head that actually killed him. listen wound in the head here's a bullet in your head and there's a severe traumatic brain injury yes injury from other sources like a missile injury in his right forearm fallen masonry on his left leg, or tie, more and many sharpeners that shrapnel entered his body, but only in the chest. they caused the severe damage but the cause of death is the gunshot wound in the head

certain there and he actually reached that conclusion before hearing them israeli military's account about what actually happened, he reached this conclusion just by looking at the body, by analyzing it, doing it like you would do for any other body. what he also did is before the body even arrive there, he received a finger that had been cut off from yahya sinwar and he performed in his lab the dna analysis that led them to conclusively determined that this was in fact yahya sinwar after a little bit of uncertainty about whether it actually was. and ultimately leading us to this very decisive moment. >> it between that and the power cord, or whether it was a power chord he was using as a tourniquet on his arm to visit was bleeding i'm not sure about that part, but he was using something. >> i read this in an israeli report. >> he was using this tourniquet to try to stem the bleeding. they didn't think it would actually be successful in the end. but interesting to hear that contradiction the idf account and matthew, his body obviously is still in israeli custody. it's being held secretly. what is the sense of

israeli officials are or what you're hearing about how it could be used as a bargaining chip well, i mean, first of all, these rate is routinely keep the bodies of palestinians that have been killed as potential bargaining chips. >> people thinks they can trade back with the palestinians for some kind of deal. but it's not been years since they've had somebody in custody light it's a body in custody like this who so senior. and so that presents certain challenges that it necessarily want to trade that body back very keenly because they're worried that his burial may rally support for her mass is shrine may turn into a sort of rallying points as well. at the same time presents opportunities that they haven't had either. and of course, there are still more than 100 israeli hostages inside gaza being, being held captive. and the sources that i've spoken to say that, look, this could be a great opportunity for us to use these remains of yahya sinwar as a

way of getting as many of those the israeli side as we possibly can. it's just one of the options that are being considered right now. but i got the sense from the people i spoke to. they are putting out there feelers to see what appetite there is amongst hamas for that kind of deal. >> and as we've seen, the response in gaza to his death, i mean, there's the idea of put out that video, jeremy, yesterday, where you can see sinwar on the second floor of the building still alive and preparing to throw a stick at the drone that is there in the building with him you what's the sense of whether or not of why the idea of decided to release this. and if people feel it was a good decision well, israeli is when they viewed that video, they are seeing the arch-terrorist, the man who was responsible for the october 7 massacre, severely wounded on his knees and about to die but it's being viewed much differently in this region. and in particular by palestinians. we heard from the sofa barghouti of palestinian figure earlier today who was talking about the fact that

this image of sinwar throwing the stick at drone. it's kind of like the image of someone making his last stand a resistance fighter, a hero, who is fighting until the last moment. and it also contradicts the narrative that israel has put out and that us officials have also agreed with that sinwar was hiding in a tunnel over the course of the last year while palestinians were suffering above ground, which may end facts still be true. but in this case, they are now presenting this image of a man who was effectively fighting back in his last moments, not hiding underground, but rather fighting back as a resistance fighter. and this is kind of a rorschach test for the region certainly about how he's going to be viewed, what his enduring legacy will be and certainly this presents an opportunity for this kind of myth of sinwar, to persist because of the existence of this video on that sense, do we know who israel knows? did i know who they're going to be negotiating with when it comes to his remains and the hostages and what happens next year?

>> in terms of successor to sinwar. i mean, i mean, hamas don't even know that at this point. i mean, there are a number of potential candidates. but i mean, that's selection is not, taken, not taken place yet but i think it does that does talk to one of the big sort of issues that is being discussed around this killing of sinwar. this idea that with the killing of this one individual, the war ends or hamas disintegrates or something like that. that's certainly not been the organization that we've witnessed over the over the last several decades. they've experienced assassinations, high level ones before and they've been replaced and there's every reason to believe that, that sinwar will be replaced as well. whether that new leader will have the same hardline approach to the negotiations about the hostages as sinwar did, is something that is unknown at this stage. i hope he's obviously that that person won't yeah, it's a key question. >> matthew chance, jeremy diamond, great reporting both ofth