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wonder if, at least in this election voters who have not made up their minds yet i'm more of a myth than a reality i'm talking about the undecided voter are you kidding me i mean, are you kidding me? >> the same people you see at the ice cream shop asking for 12 you nice moon samples. it's a three-dollar cone that's all. you don't see a difference donald trump is left for you to learn about that how they load a dishwasher nobody has ever thought, wait, is that a trump quote or a harris quote the people who take the 12 samples at the ice cream shop they're there, they're bad people. >> they are. >> it's true. but i mean, it's not the same situation that we're in right now with undecided voters know, i think

with undecideds, i think it is very easy, especially for comedians, no offense, but it's easy. it's easy fair to say, like, what are you doing at this point? like it's quite obvious that there's two different sides. but i think the thing about americans is not caring about politics doesn't mean politics doesn't affect you. it means you can affect it and there's a lot of people that were taught in this country to not talk about things like politics and religion. so they don't understand and they don't know, and they're afraid to make a mistake. so i think we have to take undecideds, even this close to the election in good faith. and say, okay, if you really don't know who you're going to vote for right now. let's pick a couple of issues that really matter to you. the affordable care act. do you want your pre-existing condition to be uninsurable under one president or do you want it protected under another? do you want the right to the government to make decisions over people's bodies? or do you think that that is not the government's job and people should have their own decisions over their own bodies. these are major issues and if you only pick one of them, you would know which candidate to vote for, or maybe go to some of the you trust who really does pay attention to

politics, talked to them, or ask yourself, maybe they're not even sure if they're even going to leave their house. i suspect that that's part of what's going on to say that these voters are they're just ambivalence. >> maybe i'm holding what we see into the issue point. i'm not taking thing with my sisters issues, but we're 18 days out and what we see in all these races that were working and across the country, the problem for kamala harris is not persuading people to come from trump to her is persuading them to turn out to your point. that's the problem. and as you said earlier, mostly that's people under the age of 35. they just don't show up at regulates because they are like every other like i was when i was 28, bolton wasn't my top priority. and so it just happens like that. and so that's the real problem is the turnout, not the persuasion every year the annenberg center surveys the american public. i'm very basic civics questions. and the answers and the percentage is an emeritus who know basic facts which party controls the senate, which party controls? i know it's close, but most people can figure this out. everyone at this table, everyone in this room operates in a bubble. a bubble of following the news,

following politics and knowing this stuff, there are americans who cannot name a supreme court justice, never mind any, neither supreme court justice. and this is after ruth bader ginsburg had the kind of marketing we usually associate with a marvel movie of every possible mug and chechnya 8:00 shopping bags don't so what do you think? oh, how could you let these people don't think about politics at all. these people don't follow the news. they don't read a newspaper, they're not watching say that probably doing some good. they probably you're out there, keeps staying, keep the channel here. but really they're dealing with a knowledge base that it just never seems that important to their lives. so you can make the case that it does matter. but generally they tend to recognize that six months after the election here's what i'll say. >> this is going to sound like a shameless plug, but i literally wrote a bestselling book this year that started with american civics because most people don't know that. and i didn't want them to feel bad about that. so it's 20 pages of this is how it works, and this is what the senate does. and that kind of thing. but i think at this point this close to the election, i think these people need to ask themselves if they're willing to take the risk that donald

trump's vice president is, right about him, that donald trump's newest vice president, jd vance now to called him america's hitler at one point, is right. they're willing to take the risk that dick cheney and liz cheney and all these people that are going against their own party are right. they need to decide if they're willing to take the risks and not vote. >> but these folks aren't even thinking about that at all. >> how do we inspire them to? i think the issue that decided voters make the mistake decided voters make is assuming that undecided voters are as invested or have the same level of i don't want to say intelligence. how am i call them all done but two-thirds of his country does not have a college degree. so you cannot assume everybody is going to look at the smaller minutia because they work and 50 hours a week. i'm not saying what you're saying. it's not important, it's very important, but the average american wants to come home and watch a reality show and go to sleep. and that's why you see the entity is going on podcasts because that's where those voters actually go and get information. so, yeah, you

might have to go on a podcast wherever you personally, but you would have gone and for years, a lot of these voters, i mean, when we do talk to some of these, i mean, they consider themselves to be open-minded at 12%. right now, say that they are persuadable. so maybe there just so open-minded that they're taking all of the things into consideration for as long as possible but given that donald trump, i don't think there's a human being on this planet who is more known. and then donald trump or even 16 cycle, he started with 99% name record no candidate ever has, you know, yeah. >> i mean, if he was 99 and in 2016, can he be over 100 january 6 was a peaceful gathering. >> ashli babbitt died, nobody died literally there's still no, i don't know. >> we'll then that's the type that's why you have to pay and that's why you have to get a wrapper and kid rock and make the stallion to come out on a stage because that's literally how some people are going to

connect the dow also wonder if among that 12%, how many of them maybe they participated once, maybe they tuned into politics and they thought, you know, my life hasn't gotten better. i'm not making more money. i'm living in a community be that's impoverished, doesn't matter if democrats are in control, are republicans are in control. i don't really see anything tangible that i can immediately grabbed. that's changed. >> i think that is a mindset among some within that 12%. >> so maybe there is some ambivalence or maybe some are saying it doesn't matter who i vote for. my life's not going to improve regardless of who's running the country. >> but do you think that's i feel like those are two different voting blocs that you have people who just don't believe in a system at all and then you have people going home. i don't know which ice cream i'm going to decide. it's like wow, that's why i think we need to be responsible for our people. >> right? like if you are a voter, if you or someone that's going to go vote in this election, go out and talk to someone. your friend, your hairdresser, the person at the grocery store, and ask them if they're going to vote because at this point, we need to have those conversations that are dining room tables at our salons at our friendships and say, are you going to vote and

who are you going to vote for him? what's your plan to vote? that would be a good idea. >> but all three of you are right when you run a campaign today and i'm hired to win elections, i'm not hired to make france or to be smart on tv. i'm hard to win elections and we take these voters like this and we segment them out, and we segment them out, and we start having conversations with them to decide whether that 12% is leaning one way or the other. are there man or woman? had they ever voted before? things that both parties do wrong? i think is that if you don't have some kind of a voting history, we start eliminating, talking to you over a long period of time. so both parties start there's a generation of people who've never really heard from either party. so they really start less and less than you see this, the difference when what you said about donald trump having all that name ideas, he was known quantity, whether they liked him or not, they thought he was a little crazy. they thought he was armed whatever it was, like. oh, maybe he'll break something to your point about that's why you saw all those folks show up to vote for him. kamala harris just trying to get a whole new group of people who have registered to vote and come of age under a donald trump, who really don't like him. this is what's going on every day of the campaign. >> all right, everyone. hang on. we have a little bit more i had for you coming up elon musk

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it becomes almost impossible to prove cheating is the issue. >> there are some very strange things that happen that that that are statistically it incredibly unlikely so you as always, it's a question of like say, the dominion voting machines at it is weird that you know, i think there used in philadelphia and in maricopa county. but not in a lot of other places. that seem like a heck of a coincidence i mean, doesn't seem a little scary that the guy who's running one of the biggest social media companies and sending rockets into space also is gullible enough to believe things that have been completely debunked in that people have paid millions hundreds of millions of dollars. i mean, the good news and punishment for good news is georgia and, i think several other swing states are really made significant changes to try to make sure that we know the results early, to try to debunk a lot of this so that there is this trust and faith in the process people.

>> but whether you who's running one of the biggest social media platforms he fervently believes it sounds like a lot of people believe it that there is widespread fraud, which there is not. and he controls the thing. i mean, that that's got to give people he's running his mouth about dominion to see if they will get him to. >> but i think the thing is, is very litigious, is that we can't just have truth be based on civil lawsuit it's right. we can't just say okay. you're lying. and the only way we can stop you from lying is to hit you with a civil lawsuit. there has to be some way that we don't do this right now. we're watching the richest man in the world by a country, right? he's got the america pac, he's single-handedly filming. he is single singlehandedly funding a past and a lot of things. donald trump doing. he owns twitter, which is the echo chamber for all of the right-wing information. he has town halls, he doing public appearances. he's paying for all the ads. he's paying for turning point usa is entire door-knocking situation. that is one man but we have to say, how can one man can spend all

this money on election? and just because we had a supreme court decision called citizens united we'll have a line and say ridiculous undertaking that they have allowed. she's talking about as $106 million were spent in pro trump pac. and there are a lot of men there, a lot of girls and democrats that of get written $50 million checks i think i think we single handedly keeping trump afloat. >> trump has lost all of his money lead megadonor, to the other one is peter teal, much money you spent harris dollars times as many volunteers. >> but how many people that are raising money for harris, how many of the big buck donors for harris are on stage peddling lies in that same instance, if you follow elon musk on twitter or x, as we have because it come up in la for now, he keeps him. if something comes across, that sounds really shocking or cool, and it may or may not be true. elon will retweet it, are quote, tweeted like that, right? >> i know the man can parallel park or rocket and i'm sure he's a genius in certain ways. >> but his discernment of what

you, it's not about all of us in the journalism profession are currently well okay, that sounds too good to be true. that old saying, if your mother says she loves you, check it out, i guess you mother. >> okay but but for elon that temptation to retweet that temptation to spread it out to the bigger, broader audience. >> is it reflexive? and what we see here when he's not doing on stage is just the same version of what he's been doing on twitter for many years now but what you got to ask yourself is, what's in it for elon, why would a guy that can parallel park or rocket upside down on a forklift by next next to an ocean like i'm impressed as a mexican redneck that somebody could do that, but also like what's in it for elon, because $106 million is still a lot of money and sure. >> we got our rich people do, but you can fit all of our rich people. my granddad, his barn. you got a lot of rich people have contracts, make hundreds $6 look like chump change. >> well, that's like it is pocket change in essentially to him at this point, i'm just did

an interview with tucker. >> right? with tucker carlson and they had this back-and-forth haha thing where he said, if kamala harris wins, i'm asked here's what he said when they had this little laughing thing because he has so many government contracts and he made jokes in that same episode about why hasn't anyone tried to kill kamala harris yet, he made jokes about how he might be the next leader of the free world. he talked to benjamin netanyahu and benjamin netanyahu said, are you allowed to be president of america? he said, not officially and then benjamin netanyahu said, well then unofficially it'll be president. there's a lot in it, and it's not just government contractors. >> he have so many government contracts? because he's a brilliant guy as it pertains to rockets. he's doing things that no one else in the united states. >> two years ago is on moscow elon musk today for the development of the technology that he's overseeing. >> that's why he has sex is not the only company they are ahead of. nowhere but we also need to consider is that elon is also rich and board to some

degree as well. and so spinning the money helps to protect the company one, too. it's a little bit as about but attention i'm not going to say it's all about attention, but a little bit is about attention. a man that rich doesn't need to be on stage. and what dave chappelle cracking jokes earlier this year. that's true. >> the other thing, i mean, jim was talking about, kamala harris. they have a lot of their own money, a lot of field offices, a big ground game. but elon musk has enough money to kind of just mess around with it. they put out ads targeting muslim voters touting how close are harris's to israel. they're they're tinkering with the electorate. they played real way at the same time. one thing she was on israel side and one saying she was on the gaza side, into the same market just to see what they could have to see what happens i know i know it does, but it's they have the money to just just do whatever. and i ran into this firsthand in michigan this week i was up there doing some work and i saw the door hangers. i've actually emailed it earlier to one of your team members to be like, this is actually happening and i was really shocked to say we should talk about this because i've run field operations my entire career. i've been doing this for 35 years. it's the first time i've ever seen a

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lifestyle tried today at your core.com tomorrow at 9:00 p.m. eastern time. >> tune in for a brand new episode of have i got news for you with our own roy wood jr. who is here at the table tonight. here's a preview of what you can expect trump is running all of these scams on top of selling of $100,000 trump victory watch that he launched this fall yes and despite being advertised as having, quote, swiss-made power and precision, can anyone tell me where a cnn investigation deal got those watches but actually coming from where swiss-made hundred victory watch really coming from it. >> and i ask one question, okay, where is the cheapest place in the world to produce such a wash it's not even there. >> it's america where erica is this cheap as watch wait a

minute really, for the first time in his life, he had the opportunity to honestly say something is made in america of his and he declined to take that opportunity and do that because then you won't believe that it's got swiss-made precision so i have what states allow sweatshops detroit. >> oh my government tries to bounce embed, don't put this on the truck want him to talk about that? >> and then it's gonna be it's going to be alabama or no, no. >> that's my career right now i know you ever want to get invited back on this show? know, i've don't say should about alabama or waffle house on you. >> what's not? >> it's not their fault. they got a manufacturing gig where is it? it's a shopping center in northern wyoming where

trump's watch brand, the best watches on earth, llc, is registered also registered to that same address in wyoming as a company called quote the best honey on earth, whose website sells something called male enhancement honey, which the food and drug administration has warned people well not to consume after they found it contained the same drugs used in viagra. >> wow. >> i'm going to have to clean out my pantry now. >> male enhancement honey, which is on the horny bees mail-in has been hani, that's why winnie the pooh don't where draws through the t's for that hot. this is actually realized this is not comedy. this all can you all of everything of trump, there is to not like, how can you not respect the hustle grif the scam of a watch made in

wyoming well, hundred thousand victory. >> he has not yet been confirmed to have yet and the honey. yes. the honey, of course. >> how we found it's actually pretty amazing that they were able to put that together so quickly. getting a news organization here that believes in convention. >> i'm talking about trump the company and everything's and he's going to want to his buddies wow, oh where every rich white person in america moves to, i guarantee you, it's one of his boys who own it and then we'll get a store front. we'll call it this thing. you can do it with your little honey business. i know you've got trump made the greatest was with him, because the best watches degrade the swatches. trump came up with that name himself? absolutely. it is somebody's brother-in-law. >> i will say this much male enhancement, honey, we'll fix the attack on manhood that trump says is happening in illinois. >> roy, you can pour the honey you're tea, and you can wear the watch and keep track of time while you're doing what you do want and are wrong, or

you go, i'm just saying that, you know, combinations. so roy this week actually yesterday, trump was at the al smith dinner brian stelter was sitting where you were sitting last night. he said trump was pretty funny. do you think it was smart for kamala harris to skip it? >> i think it was very smart for the vice president to skip the event because then it just becomes a battle of name-calling between her and trump. have trump was completed game straight up and do jokes and destruction to jokes and actually have some degree of angle to them versus him. just talking about a man in the last couple of weeks has called her stupid. has called her like just so many different insults with no punchline, with no structure to it. if i'm the madam vice president, i'm trying to go and get everybody else's votes. i know the purpose of that event is to raise money for catholic charities. she contributed a video that's just that's just got to be what it is we talked about it. who didn't show up to the correspondents dinner for a couple of times. >> that's right. yeah. the correspondents dinner