>> thank you for having so we are going to talk about your film, the apprentice, which is a movie, but it's also become a political minefield. >> first and foremost, it is the story of donald trump's beginnings. >> that's right way before he had the presidency in his eyes, it takes place between 1973 and 1986 why did you want to do this movie everyone has an opinion about him, right everyone thinks that they know him is a very polarizing figure. and it's really exciting to dive back and say, oh, he was not the person who you think he was, and he gone through a sort of a major transformation and look at that and look at that sort of colorful 70s and 80s new york with these large life characters. but also as someone, you know, as an outsider to united states and american society. that's my chance to look at the power structure of america, the legal structure, and the sort of the social darwinism that has created some of the you know,

what would you describe him as at the time of this film when that said he's not the character is now you say, what was he then? i think he was a strivers. he was someone who sort of as a young man wanted to become somebody, do something and he wasn't exactly obvious what to become and what to do, but he wanted to ascend. he was an ascender. he was looking for a purpose, looking for a place and you know, obviously he comes from money that was immensely wealthy but they were in brooklyn and queens and they didn't have the sort of manhattan socialite connections which, and that's where he wanted to be. >> he wants to prove to his father that he could be as good a real estate developer? exactly. his father. the reason it's called the apprentice is because he is apprentice to this very prominent lawyer by the name of roy cohn. >> that's right. manhattanites, who had become very famous during the nixon administration before that, the

mccarthy hearings. and he was really very, very extreme, very good lawyer, very, very right-wing, who professed always it is a major client, was america. but i want to play this clip because it is essentially what the writer gabriel sherman says is where trump learnt what we now know is trumpism a anymore ways when there's rules the first rule is attack, attack, attack we're going to find it filling in the city, maybe, maybe the country in the world >> good night. >> everything there's never been anything like this if this magnitude, this quality cheese balls over here, what do you do? >> you want no, it looks totally discussed. >> that she's bought three no matter what happens, you claim victory i never admit >> to be willing to do anything anyone

extraordinary now that's a trailer. >> so the three rules are all broken up with scenes and music the three rules are deny, deny, deny attack, attack, attack, and never, ever admit defeat. and you can take that as a straight line from there to january 6. >> you know, basically it's about like if reality works for you, manipulated, if it doesn't work for you, just math manufactured reality unit so as you know, a lot of republicans have trashed it. >> we're gonna get to trump trashing it in a moment. >> some like and some maybe may have liked it too. >> but a lot of liberals just think you're not being clear eyed enough about, about trump's. so it's kind of a minefield. >> yeah. i mean, we we've been sort of in the middle of all you're too soft on him. oh, you're too harsh on him on you're bashing him, or you're praising him and in a way, i'm thinking, you know, if you have

trump hating it, breitbart liking it someone msnbc liking or hating it. all these different actors if were agitating all sides, then we're doing something right and trump has just recently is latest attack on this is on social, social media early monday, calling it a cheap, defamatory and politically disgusting hatchet job meant to sward his presidential candidacy and his his spokesman goes on to say this garbage is pure fiction and it basically belongs in the, in the garbage dump. that's a good dvd cover. if we ever done one, let's get to the crux of this right now because there's been hard to get it distributed the movies out and united states, it's coming almost everywhere all the major territories. >> thankfully. and i'm grateful that this is happening finally so this is important to say because a lot of people think that it's still in legal limbo. it's not what's going

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ranging from drug trafficking, too violent crime and cnn is getting a rare look at this country's criminal justice system. under the constant game of guards and security cameras austere cell blocks, where rules are strict and meals arrived through a small shutter. >> in each prison cell door. >> during my visit here, officials allowed me to interview one prisoner a 41-year-old former teacher named matthew. he was sentenced to more than seven years in prison and seven strokes with a cane for trafficking methamphetamines in singapore? yeah. you can to be sentenced to death for that. >> yes. >> was that a potential threat for you and a point of time, i wasn't thinking about it in fact, i was active the avoiding the whole issue of consequences i see this as an existential threat to the social fabric

case. and magen leads singapore's war on drugs. >> you look around the world anytime there has been a certain laxity and the approach to drugs homicides go up flying into singapore, visitors get a stern warning baby punishable by death while a singaporean citizens may also face testing for drugs on arrival. >> this small city-state in southeast asia is per capita one of the wealthiest countries in the world. >> they amount that jumped traffic dropped, battens can make by trafficking drugs into singapore is because the people of singapore can afford to pay for. >> what do you want me to take away from being able to does it the prison that our philosophy on prisons is not the same as say the scandinavian philosophy you want finite conflict. you will find it to be all right tough regime. >> this is a standard cell for a single prisoner inmates can

span from 14 to 23 hours a day. in here. and as you can see, it's not very big. >> the shower and toilet are right behind here. and there's no air conditioning in this. climate here in singapore, i am dripping with sweat authorities did not give cnn permission to enter death row under a singaporean law, those caught trafficking certain quantities of heroin, meth, or even marijuana face mandatory execution. >> how to singapore execute criminals? >> they hung officials say most singaporean support the death penalty and argue this is an essential part of singapore's system of deterrence. what do you want to say too? >> the government here, i wanted to abolish these heck system is a very cool to take one's life. just put a life sentence that one too that will deter them from committing the crime the zero logjams brother

nazariy was executed in 2022 for trafficking heroin he was a lifelong drug addict, she says, and not to violent man. >> he's are portraits is a portrait. see in singapore, the government organizes a professional photo shoot before execution for each prisoner to share with their families how does it make you feel him looking happy? >> i always fit his fec happiness. i know his fate but singapore's zero tolerance approach to drugs remains very real since the august authorities have executed four men convicted of drug offenses. >> as for the prisoners in maximum security statistics show that after completing getting their sentences, one in five of these men will likely commit crimes end up once again behind barr's ivan watson, cnn, singapore next up, the israeli intelligence officer

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>> yahya sinwar, the hamas leader and mastermind of the savage october 7 attacks on israel was confirmed dead this week. how his death changes

israel's gaza plans or the regional war that's ensued is yet to be seen. but one thing is certain, few people understood his thinking, like the doctor who once saved his life in an israeli prison this summer to learn more about the man who planned those brutal attacks and kidnappings and who was willing to sacrifice tens of thousands of palestinians to achieve his goals. i spoke to a uvalde beton. he was a prison doctor before heading the intelligence division in israel's prison service, where he spent hundreds of hours speaking with sinwar you fall you said that on the morning of october 7 you knew immediately who had planned this massacre, how come journey mcu it because i know the person who planned and conceive the shaded, this criminal attack. >> i have known him since 1996. >> not that if giammona, not only him, but the entire hamas

leadership in gaza, and it was clear to me that this is what they were planning while they were still in prison and this is the plan of hamas. >> it was very clear to me, tell mobile you're talking about yahya sinwar and you said that when you realize what happened on october 7, you were kind of tormented by what you did for him in jail. you essentially saved his life tell me about that story alpine. >> where alba, in 2004 i saved sinwar's life in prison i was a doctor who diagnosed the problem he had when he explained to me what was happening to him. i diagnosed it as a stroke and together with the general practitioner, we decided to take them to the hospital he arrived at the hospital the diagnosis was that he had abscess in the brain and he was operated on that day, you in a bit of a saving his life on it because if it had exploded, he would have died he thanked me, ended doctors for

saving his life he also told me that on the day he was released in the gilad shalit deal in 2011, that he owed me his life and one day he will repay it and as you understand he repeated on october 7 and that he was also directly responsible for the murder of my nephew in kibbutz-nur-oz, young children, becky, what's new? can i ask you what you learned about sinwar and hamas in jail? >> they'll be i had many hours, hundreds of hours of conversation with sinwar both as a dentist and as an intelligence officer what impression did you get of his plans, of his goals on the lamana timmy manno of i learned from him and i learned from the other leaders it was clear to me that sinwar reflects the hamas gaza worldview sinwar told me clearly in 2004 that they would be ready to sign a

hood now, on a truce for 20 years because the state of israel is currently a strong state. but he also told me that in 20 years, he estimates that we will be weakened because of internal struggles between us within israeli society. and as soon as they recognize that we are weak they will attack us and they also said clearly that we as jews have no place on these lands under lands in which the state of israel is located along. >> these are walked lands these are muslim lands these are lands that do not belong to us. therefore, we as jews have no right to exist on the lands. therefore, there, there is no compromise. there is no compromise on the 1967 borders or 1948 borders it's either us or them. >> cheap shot therefore, it's only a matter of time and timing that they will act against us and try to expel us from the place where we live through. >> this is a worldview that they did not hide. he told me that explicitly but his way was

much more extreme than others his thought that this conflict can only be resolved by force and the struggle of they are waging against the u.s. hamas is waging as a religious struggle. the war is a religious war i it is not a nationalist war. it is not about establishing a palestinian state alongside the state of visual it's all palestine he only said this more bluntly than other hamas leaders in the west bank stoke to you've all beton had remarkable and rare insight next up, i said, you know what, i'm going to be here when you're not longer you when you're no longer working, the rock and roll hall of fame beckons for superstar performer shared what she told me about her bumpy road to success before election day. vice president harris bases voters and takes the pressing question and lie. anderson cooper moderates a cnn presidential town hall. kamala harris wednesday at nine eastern on cnn teeth sensitivity is so

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