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the calendar you can get the sense that they are where harris sees our her path. and so holding at least somewhere in the mid low to mid 40s among them is absolutely a critical for her. you continue to see her pound these states with messages and appearances. liz cheney on monday and another appeal to previously republican voting women and most of these lemon, as i said, have voted republican, but they don't like the economic outcomes they've gotten under biden, but they also don't like trump, don't like the way he is. his language, the kind of belligerence. >> and they are a truly conflicted group. so interesting, we are looking at live video run of former president trump, who is in lotro, pennsylvania. he is talking, i believe right now how about his closing message which has been on a lot of ads about transgender people. i want to dip into this and let's just listen. if you don't mind to hang on with this for a moment. >> that i said to my son, don, he knows a lot about guns and eric does a great shots. they
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really unders i said what kind of a gun is that? they said, dad, you don't even want to know i share his guns. we got more guys and everyone is like central casting to all the shed. >> i'm looking they looked like arnold palmer. >> it looked like adl can look rather than normal but with us support will bring back our nation's strength, dominance prosperity, and pride. we're going to do it. this will be america's new golden age whatnot hundred years from now, the presidential election of 2024 will be looked upon as america's greatest victory. i hope that's true. much together. the finish line is finally insight after for her renders years, kamala harris can't say one thing that she do differently, right? you heard that if you vote for me, i will end inflation. i will bring jobs back to our
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country, will flood will flood our shores with companies and jobs we'll see you all our borders immediately and we'll let people in. you know, we had the safest border in the history of our country hold it, put up that my favorite sign of all time but up my favorite graph, have to use it. my in the bottom that's the lowest number of illegal immigrants to come into this country. and by the way, we want people to come into the country, but they have to come in legally just so we understand right. she's gone yet we want we need if we're going to need them because we're going to have so many companies come in just through adjustments in tariffs and taxes. they're going to come pouring into our country and they're going to stay here because with tariffs. the word tariff is the most beautiful word in the dictionary. more beautiful
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than love? more beautiful than respect, no less beautiful than religion. i don't want to get into that argument, but the word tariff is the most beautiful word in the dictionary. remember that it's going to make our it's going to make our country rich and our politicians were too stupid for so many years or something else was going on. he goes cricket that could be because it's so simple to understand. but look at that. so that's the, that was the day i left off. that lower read arrow. that's the lowest point and look, what happened to our country after that. look at that >> right you're listening there. to former president donald trump, who is speaking at a rally in lotro, pennsylvania. we've got ron brownstein here with us ron, interesting a couple of notes there that i just kinda want to get your thoughts on. first of all, he talks about tariffs being the most beautiful word in the dictionary. but a number
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of economists have said that if they, if he goes forward with this plan on tariffs perhaps that it could really sink the u.s. economy yeah. also confused arnold palmer and all schwartzenberger. yeah, they're continuing the pattern of his own verbal missteps which have become much, much more common in this campaign, than it is earlier campaigns. yeah. in fact a number of wall street economic analysis, goldman sachs, jp morgan, moody's, have concluded that the combination of the tariffs across the board, tariffs of 10% on everything and 60% or more on china. he's been talking about but even larger figures lately, the combination of trump's across-the-board tariffs and his mass deportation which could remove something like 15% of construction workers. and one and 12 service workers and manufacturing. what was that? those two policies combined could reignite inflation, slowed down the economy and
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cause the fifth fed to raise interest rates again, which would have a lot of impact on the home industry as well as facing the camino, the increased cost of materials from the from the tariffs. i mean, the problem democrats have had making an issue of this is that the lived experience of people is the opposite, right? i mean, people have a sense that they had more money in and their pocket at the end of the week under trump and groceries and gas and housing wasn't as expensive in the first years of the trump presidency. and that remains, that remains a huge hurdle for harris as it was for biden. i mean, ultimately, the fundamentals do apply. i mean, there's a great deal of resistance to trump personally, the way he is closing this campaign with his kind of, you know blast force message on immigration appeals to his base. he does worry some of those suburban, moderates, but the challenge for the democrats is that the retrospective job approval for trump's ears and office is rising? in both state
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and national polls, to a point where in many of them it is higher than it ever was when he was president. and what that says to me is that they are judging him now through the lens primarily of what they didn't like about biden's results, which are largely inflation. and the border and between now and november and i think you see it clear recalibration by harris over the last week. she has to remind people that there was more that went to the trump presidency and lower prices for eggs. there was a reason his approval rating never reached 50 50% when voters were actually living through the economy at that, that was there under him. and to the the extent that has faded from view, it as a significant reason why his position has improved since the debate, which will minded people of all of the things they didn't like about him when he was, hence, the reason we've seen her really going after him in a much more sharper way about how unstable he is. that's where i think we do need to go. i've won one quick question for you though. you heard him mentioned
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i mentioned that harris and these interviews has had a hard time saying anything she would do differently than biden. in fact, in the view, couldn't come up with anything. she later went on to say maybe she'd put a republican in her cabinet. how harmful is that forever? >> yeah. look, i think i think it is harmful. i mean, most people do not want a continuation of the biden administration. most people more people say the biden policies have hurt than help them. the opposite is true. for trump it would seem it would be possible to say where i have different from him. i'm going to keep private because that's what a vice president does. but looking forward, i have different experiences. i'm a different person. i will have different priorities. she's kind of set the second half but didn't really do do the first half. and i think that was something that, takes her in the wrong direction at a time when the fundamental things as she is still facing, the fundamental gravity that when you have incumbent president whose approval rating is in the low 40s, his party as a hard time holding the white house. she's levitating above that,
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both because she seems to embody change. obviously, as a younger woman of color and also because people are you know, there's a lot of people who are reluctant to put trump back in the white house, but those fundamentals that gravity does ultimately you poll on this race. >> all right, ron brownstein, as always, thank you so much. >> thanks for having me silicon what we're learning from nearly 2000 pages of documents detailing the evidence special counsel, jack smith plans to use in the election subversion case against donald trump here in the cnn newsroom weakness thanks. at ten eastern on cnn so, you know, honda's 22-years-old and we've been together most of my life. not often. you have a childhood dog that that leaves this long i think it's really unique and special that we've experienced so many, so many things in life together knowing that he's getting good nutrition and that he has energy is a huge huge relief for me and my dad took the little been or so grateful
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trump, giving us a glimpse into the evidence of special counsel jack smith's case. >> satan's kaylin, poland's breaks down what this could mean for the prosecution the federal court in washington on friday, released nearly 2000 pages of evidence in the 2020 election case against donald trump. but much of it looks like this blank or sealed, or redacted. that's because this evidence is backing up what the justice department says. a trial court must look at that would be shown to jurors at a trial to try and prove donald trump was conspiring against the federal government as a candidate for office, not as the president. at this point in time. we've heard the narrative from the justice department. they've written that and they've described what trump was doing and the evidence that they've gathered. but now as on friday, the justice department has this evidence put into the court record in largely these blank pages. these sealed records, there are some things in this
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evidence that we can see that we know the justice department wants rely on for their case. that's already been public. things like donald trump's tweets speeches, and transcripts of speeches. he was giving after the 2020 election saying he didn't believe that he had lost, even though the just department says he knew very clearly that he had there are other things like mike pence's book that is also in this court record that we can see publicly photocopied pages of pence's book where things that trump was saying to him that he wrote about as when he was during the vice presidency, that are highlighted by the prosecutors. all of this is going to be looked at by the trial judge as she considers whether this case can move on to trial. it also is very likely to be looked at by appeals courts in the future, again, to determine whether trump can go to trial or whether he has protection because of the presidency. but his team has been digging in. they do not like the fact fact
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that any of this has been released in court at this time, especially before the election. they claim it's election interference which the judge says it absolutely not is not it's litigation, but they also are trying to build a record to say this judge has just not handled things appropriately whether that is going to be an argument that goes far in the appellate courts, we will have to see, but it's very likely this case is going to go back to the supreme court before a trial is even on the calendar, katelyn polantz, cnn, washington kaitlan. thank you. and joining us now is former federal prosecutor, at least adamson, at least. thanks so much for being here yeah. as kaitlan just reported, there was so much redacted from these documents. she held up. it looked at said sealed and it was blank. what is the value in releasing them? >> yeah, that's a i think it's more a question of procedure than it is a value
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here. i think what people need to understand is that most of the time criminal case is our public, once they are filed within the ordinary course, when the party's filed documents, they're going to be public on the public docket however, there are instances such as these where the information is so sensitive that the court decides that some of it needs to be redacted. so i think what we saw here was chest a case kind of advancing within the ordinary the course. and then of course, judge chutkan, rightly withheld are kept redacted large swaths of these documents, which we believe to be grand jury material sensitive witness interviews. and so while it's wholly unsatisfying to us as members of the public i think that this is just a very ordinary thing that happens in criminal cases on knowing all of that what stood out to you or did anything surprise you as you went through this yeah jessica,
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i think what was surprising to me was the lack of surprise, right. and i say that because the former president's team thought this very hard, they thought the initial brief that jack smith filed on october 2, they filed the unsealing of this appendices. there were four volumes, nearly in 1,900 pages. so we all expected to see something, but there was no bombshell. it was all really just context to what we had seen in the october 2 filing. of course, there were some tidbits. there was a hand-written notes that demonstrated the urging of mike pence reject the certification. there was also this previously unknown interview with a white house employee that gave us some insight into how the former president reacted when he found out about the riot. apparently, he asked for a television and then was given a diet coke just to watch it unfold. >> so i thought that was interesting.
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>> but the most evidence was included in that october 2 filing and so now, judge chutkan will consider all of these documents as she determines whether this case can move to trial, how do you seeing see this proceeding? yeah. i think that jack smith and his team did a phenomenal job in briefing the issues here. remember, judge chutkan needs to make immunity determinations, decide whether or not the evidence that jack smith is relying on will be admissible at trial, whether it conforms to the immunity ruling that land mark decision that the supreme court handed down on july 1st. remember, jack smith has issued a superseding indictment and then within this within his october 2 filing, he positioned a lot of the arguments as these are all private acts, the conduct here is private. it was donald trump acting as a political candidate and not as president. and for those acts that could be
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considered official acts, but those are only presumptive immunity there. and then we'll rebut those presumptions. judge chutkan is going to meticulously go through all of the allegations, go through all of this evidence, and remember, while this evidence is redacted for us, the party he's have full view. judge chutkan is reading it all, so she will make those determinations. i personally believe that there are there is enough evidence to support the continuation of this case. and judge chutkan will ultimately find that it can go forward. >> all right. at least adamson. thank you so much for your analysis there. we appreciate it. >> thanks so much for having me, jessica. >> there'll be right back the fund experienced the cnn magic wall in the palm of your hand, get live results expert insights and an immersive election experience. >> the magic wall, find it in the cnn app today stay tuned to learn more about this limited time offer from renewal by
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