isolationism for the rest of the 20th century. this is the little told story of how a general became a reluctant politician when the world and america needed him most special airs tomorrow at 8:00 p.m. eastern and pacific here on cnn and we have some breaking news just into cnn at least seven people are dead after a ferry dock collapsed in coastal georgia. >> this is according to the associated press several people were taken to hospitals that happened on hello, ireland, about 70 miles south of savannah. crowds were gathered there for a celebration of the island's a goal, a community of black slave descendants thanks so much for joining me this evening. i'm jessica dean, i'm going to see you again tomorrow night starting at five eastern an encore presentation of hbo's real-time with bill maher starts right now of great all right?

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doing? thank you >> you're embarrassing me. thank you very much. thank you. oh, i know i can feel it. the excitement i know, i know why you're happy tonight. only 18 days and you'll stop getting texts that say tim walz here of course we're spared. mostly here, right in california, because we're not a swing state. so you know, los angeles, you barely know there's an election going on. i i do see a lot of yard signs. of course, they all say armed response, but anxious and that's the difference between me and trump.

>> i will concede america. it was kind of funny. uh, trump had, i don't know what you'd call it. maybe an episode. >> let's call it an episode. he was doing one of his rallies and a couple of people fainted. understandable he's people are going to pass out. all right of course, understand people but then instead of going back to it, he says, uh, no more questions. >> let's just listen to music like it was nap time. i are you can't and

>> his music yeah. this is every kid's nightmare. when grandpa sits, you down and makes you listen to good music but i'm telling you >> uh diplo is what he has to do to make it down a ramp during this episode he played ave maria, he played hallelujah and he played ymca ave maria, hallelujah and ymca it was it was from his playlist called priests night out uh, and then he and then he actually had a

priest night out. >> kind of because he went to the al smith dinner. that's the big one. they have every year. kamala didn't show up but okay, this is where they, you know it's for the cardinal of new york and raised charity, blah, blah, blah. and of course he can't stop himself, ever. but especially these days, even his own advisers are complaining that every time he's in public, it just turns into a massive grievous session. it's just all this bitching about. no one ever treats him good enough. the the the donors don't give enough the the jews who don't vote for him should have their head examined for christ's sake. >> they have a new term for it. complaining isn't it? >> it's a vote for me. i can't catch a break

well, not stop doubling down on eating the pets that they're eating the pets. he. this week he said they're eating the pets and other things. they're not supposed to eating things you're not supposed to. that's not kosher okay and, uh destroying the country. i don't know from the look of the people standing in front of the home depot, i think they're building it. uh one. >> migrants. when kamala went on, she went on fox news this week. they were fair. they asked her the same question they ask every guest, don't you just hate kamala harris uh, and the the interview was conducted by bret baer. do you know this guy? i must say, i have him

pegged wrong. i'd always heard about him. i don't watch fox news that much, so i didn't know. i thought he was. they kept saying he was the most legitimate journalist on fox news. no, actually, he was a huge asshole. i know i'm not saying that as a partizan way, i'm just saying he was this this tough journalism. and then he was just a huge asshole. so, you know being the most legitimate journalist on fox news is a little like being the hottest person in the dollar store. you know, we've got a and joe scarborough before election day. >> vice president harris faces voters and takes their pressing questions live. anderson cooper moderates a cnn presidential town hall. kamala harris wednesday at nine eastern on

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>> have i got news for you? tonight at nine on cnn of the student led organization march for our lives. >> and the leaders. we deserve. packed david hogg david are you good to meet you. how are you look at that. they remember you. how are you? david, great to see you. we don't often get someone your age. i have so much i need to know. >> i know i watch your show. i'm glad to lower the collective age by a few decades. yeah, well your age, but they're too fucking stupid but, um. but not this is a show for people your age. don't watch this show. jenin, i watch it. i know you do. well no, i mean, the smartest. some percent of any generation is going to be very

smart. and that's why you're here and not the talk to a girl, okay? >> not that she's a bad person. she's a lovely person >> where's the youth on kamala? kamala what? just give us the skinny on that. >> i mean, frankly, this the past few election cycles have been driven by voting against somebody we know doesn't represent us. and hasn't for a long time. donald trump but frankly, i'm getting more and more tired obviously, of people just voting against something i think everybody can relate to that, regardless of where they are. on the political spectrum. but i think thankfully especially since we've seen her step up in her role as the new nominee we've seen her speak a lot more. we've seen her talk a lot more in general, and i think part of that is because she was the vice president and there's always a concern that, well, what if the vice president overshadows the president? right. and once that switch was made with her people have become a lot more excited about her. and they they're refreshed to see somebody who's not nearly 80 years old, frankly, running for president

to put it on i mean, that's a prejudice, you know? i mean, there are people who are 80 who actually could be president and have been in other countries. >> absolutely. and i think it's important that we have a diversity of ages and perspectives in our government. it's just right now we have far too few young people that are there making, you know, people that are that old shouldn't be universally making decisions for that. they're not going to live to see the consequences of a lot of >> i want to be clear. i want to be clear. this is not to say that our government should be all 25 year olds. i don't want that to be clear. right? i want i want there to be a good diversity of opinion and experiences there, such as people like congressman maxwell frost who even as a freshman member of congress when i was helping him run for office when he became a freshman member of congress, he couldn't even get housing because his credit was so bad from how much it costs to run for office. it's

inaccessible. and it's so much harder now for young fdr was 29 when he was first elected to the new york state senate joe biden was 29 when he was first elected to the u.s. senate and lbj was 28. so i know there's a lot of prejudice around young people, and it's understandable we're still figuring things out, but we do tend to figure it out and know how to get things done as those presidents did. >> well, you mentioned three. but let's move on. so as somebody who we came to know from the horrible parkland shooting, what did you think when kamala said she has a glock and that if someone burst into her house, she'd shoot them? >> yeah. well, look, i've never said that i'm completely against any form of gun ownership. >> no, you haven't. >> in fact, i've been shooting guns since i was in fourth grade. my dad was an fbi agent most of the many members of my family were veterans. and, you know, i'm really happy know you have a very bipartisan audience as well. and too often we get siloed right, where we don't really have a conversation. exactly. and for that same reason, when i was in

college, i didn't go to college just to talk to people who agreed with me constantly as easy as that would have been in cambridge, massachusetts obviously a liberal bubble within a bubble, within a bubble. so i actually joined i joined the shooting club when i was in college because harvard has a shooting club. >> it does. it's very small as you can imagine, and i'll tell you this much, when we went in a competition against west point, we thankfully lost horribly. i'd be very concerned if that was not the case but in in those conversations, i've still been able to find common sense where, you know, even if the coach of the team, for example, who came over to me one time in a competition, he didn't coach the team very much. so he didn't know that i was on the team. >> um i like a republican as well um, and in the middle of this competition, he comes over to me and says, what's your name? and i say, david. and he says, david, what i say, and he's holding up my wikipedia page on his phone, and i say, david hogg. and he's like, well, you're here to take my guns. and, you know, the usual thing, right? and i say, and mind you, i have a 12 gauge shotgun

cracked over my shoulder when he's saying this to me, i say, look, i'm here for the shooting competition, and i'm also here because you probably have some assumptions about me that are not entirely accurate. and i might even have some about you that are not entirely accurate. and i know that you may not agree with banning a gun like the ar-15, but you probably do agree with more mental health funding for the two thirds of gun deaths in this country that are suicides. right. and he says, yes, of course. and i said debate this or you could help me become a better shot. what do you want to do and then i went and nailed all the clay pigeons that's great and i mean my impression of harvard you know, for a while, but certainly since october 7th of last year, was that it's a place where a lot of people go to get stupid. i know that's obviously a lot of brilliant people there, but it is ideologically captured. and i mean this week the israelis finally got sinwar the head of hamas um

anymore, but would this be a day of mourning for people you knew there, or what would? what do you think the reaction is of the people you know i think the reaction for the most for pretty much everybody i know is thankful that he is dead ultimately, because you're not going to hear in the news bill about the people that are saying a lot of the time that's just not how the media works. >> you're going to hear about the craziest people that are out there a lot of the time. but what i do know that happens on our college campuses is i'm glad this conversation is happening in the first place between these students i'm not saying that i agree with all of them. i think october 7th was awful, but simultaneously, i think what's happening every day to palestinian civilians is unacceptable at the same time. and it's possible it's possible to hold both those things. true right? we also need but what before the war, what was before the war? is that what you're talking about? like their everyday life before the war? i'm talking about the response that has happened since october 7th in particular, that we've all seen. >> so do you believe israel has

a right to be a state? absolutely. i believe in a two state solution. but what i don't believe is productive. what i don't believe is continuously focus on what these students that are still trying to figure out who the hell they even are a lot of the time and talking about that instead of the people that are actually responsible for these atrocities continuing, whether that is us not having a two state solution or our leaders that fail to meet this moment over and over if you and over. >> but if though, like i, i don't necessarily agree with everything. every young person says. obviously there's a reason i'm on this show right now, but i do agree that we need to have a conversation about this and make progress. and even though these young people a lot of the time, they can say stupid things that i do not agree with ultimately, i'm glad that my generation knows that what the current course that we've been on of just enabling the government of ben-gvir, the government of netanyahu that was being protested by the israeli people leading up to october 7th, just acting like, well they're not,

they're not, they're not, they're not against his policy of of prosecuting this war to the end. so that's wrong. they were against certain other things he did. and as a politician, that's a whole different discussion. but as far as what he's doing now and finishing a war that he didn't start, if you concede that israel does have a right to exist mentioned israel wanted a two state solution from the beginning they gave gaza back. it wasn't theirs. they weren't running it. what did they do when they had their own state gaza was a palestinian state they just used it to attack israel that's the that's why it's well, let's let's just have a cease fire. the best time ever to ever have a cease fire is right after israel gets attacked well, i think what's important to realize to what, frankly, bill sinwar is dead thankfully, we are all thankful for that ultimately, i think we need to realize that the hostages are still not home right now right?

that's what we need to be focused on is ending. i know that the israeli people don't want the civilian casualties to continue. they want to bring their family members home, the hostages home, and they need to be brought home immediately. but we can't continue this war forever at the same time. and i know if anybody obviously experiencing the violence that my classmates and i had, that just adding more bombs to this situation is not going to solve it. if we aren't willing to have that conversation in the first place. and unfortunately, too, we see time and time again, a lot of the people who do try to have those conversations, who try to broker a peace and create a two state solution, get killed. unfortunately, this violence has continued to derail the peace process over and over and over again, and it's not what's going to bring us to a two state solution. >> who do you think is getting carried bring peace get killed you. >> well, i'm talking about throughout the past several decades, obviously throughout multiple attempts of trying to broker different you know, instances of a two state solution, it's it's a horrifying thing that's happened that many of the people that have been working

towards it. >> but just so you understand, one place has always wanted a two state solution now, that has wobbled recently because you can only have a deal on the table for so long, and having it spurned when you get a little tired of putting that deal down and one place has never wanted a two state solution ever their only means of ending this has been we wipe you out and take it all. >> yeah. i mean, so that's where we're starting from. that's why it's a little frustrating to hear some of these waffling in my opinion, views on it. but let's move on to something else, because, you know, this war is people at a certain point why the anxiety why is your generation known for having so much anxiety? what is causing anxiety? do they realize that they live actually in the best time ever for a human being to be alive? >> yeah, i think it's obviously hard for us to see that because we're not going to hear news stories about how your life is so great and everything's good, especially when we're seeing school shootings happen all the time. right? we are growing up as a generation, not

dissimilar, frankly, from yours, bill, where i know that your generation didn't go through school, school shooter drills, but you did go through nuclear bomb drills right? and that created a lot of anxiety and for our generation, what we're being told by our government is the best thing. >> but it didn't i remember we got up right but the difference is you know, i mean, it was like, the difference is for us build the bomb is going off multiple times a year in the form of these schools and i'm not, you know, like i am by no means. i am by no means an expert on child psychology or anything like that. i just have the lived experience of being a younger person. but i can say that's certainly not helping. but i also think social media plays a big role in this too. a major role and i think that we need the government to step up and do its job and not just be, um you know, standing down to these social media companies but to help regulate them, too, to make sure that you know, young women are not getting eating disorders for example, from photoshopped and deepfaked images they're seeing online all the time and also making sure that our algorithms aren't destroying our society by driving us so much further

apart than we actually are in reality. >> yeah well, so you're 25 on your next birthday what is that you're 25 on your next birthday? >> yes, i'm 25. >> that's when you can start to run for congress, right? >> yes. it is. is that when you're going to start to run for congress? because you seem like you're on that path? >> well, bill, that's a great question. and when i was younger you sound like a politician already. yeah. no that's a good thing. >> no i did say i did say when i was younger that i wanted to run for office, but i realized when i was helping my friend maxwell frost run for march for our lives, the huge march that we had after the parkland shooting, the largest student protest in american history. when i was helping him run for office one, i realized how hard it is for young people to get elected and that's why, after he was elected, defeating two former members of congress and becoming the youngest person in congress, he had to raise over $3 million in uber drive from 9 p.m. to 2 a.m. every night for a year, and a half. >> so it's about money. well, mark cuban is here i'll introduce you after the show. >> all right. i got to go.

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think there's a lot of billionaires there. no more than the brits. >> the canadians or the germans mississippians yeah, i feel bad about all the things. i mean, the top ten us tech stocks have greater value than the entire stock markets of canada, britain france, germany. what's our secret? why are we kicking ass technology, technology, technology. we dominate in artificial intelligence and artificial intelligence dominates business. and as long as we stay ahead, we are going to continue to dominate the world. >> well, just artificial intelligence, ai it's not just technology, it's not just technology. >> and by the way, the numbers are incredible. and it drives me crazy when i hear politicians talking about how bad things are in america. we've got to $26 trillion gdp. china, which was supposed to overtake us ten years ago, remember that. they're like stuck at 17, 18 trillion

california, which is supposed to be a socialist state, has a bigger gdp, fourth biggest gdp in the world, bigger than india's, bigger than britain's, bigger than canada's. texas has a bigger gdp than than than russia. i mean, it's incredible relative to the rest of the world. and that's the only way we can measure this. our economy is stronger today than any time since world war two. and so much of that has to do. i mean nobody nobody is saying that elected by saying how great this country's economy is, but it's not just the tech sector, which is great but it's also small businesses it's what's happening on main street it's entrepreneurs, it's people. it's our nature, it's people. we're greedy and it's good. you know, the great, the great i got another way to say it that's not straight out of wall street, but one of my favorite commercials ever. >> that explains the essence of america was bill gat.