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tonight, down to the wire as kamala hararris and donald trum continue a battleground blitz. new polling shows a toss up in just about every swing state >> plus testing the limits, 1 million giveaway has experts questioning whether elon musk's maga stan actually violates election law and a reckless disregard for the truth how will the central park five are trying to make trump pay for comments he made in the last presidential debate and actually make it years at this point that the race for the white house would come down to these seven states if you thought you'd, we have a
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little bit of clarity on who's got the edge, just a few weeks away sorry not going to happen tonight. >> a new washington post poll shows no clear leader in all seven of these states. >> in fact six are within three points harris holding a robust four-point advantage in georgia. so it all comes down to these next, just two weeks for both candidates to try try to close the deal and naturally, harris and trump, obviously know that racking up frequent flyer miles dotting those battleground states with campaign rallies, you got trump in north carolina, harris and pennsylvania also michigan and wisconsin. harris, his strategy listing. >> liz cheney to convince republicans and those who might be undecided to cast a ballot for her i think there are many of us around the country who have been pro-life but who have watched what's going on in our
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states since the dobbs decision and have watched state legislatures put in place laws that are resulting in women not getting the care they need. that's not sustainable for us as a country, if you're at all oh concerned you can vote your conscience and not ever have to say a word to anybody. there will be millions of republicans who do that on november 5, go ask, for trump's closing argument. well, he's continuing. >> its called a string of bizarre and conspiratorial claims even tonight including the weekends, eyebrow raising, anecdote about a famous golfer as well. just watched and i say that in all due respect to women, i love women when he took showers with the other pros, they came out of there. they said, oh my god
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that's unbelievable they said millions and millions of ballots out there, don't know what the hell is happening. >> you ever hear the expression that you vote? counter is far more important than the candidate. and unfortunately, we can't let that happen. but look a lot of the money has gone and they don't have any money. they have to have they have to have a meeting in washington, a special meeting in washington to get money. it's all done so to be clear, nothing. you just heard was actually based in fact, well, i'm not sure about the arnold palmer part because from my purposes it's half lemonade and half i see it's all i want to know. harris though. she's got an opinion on what he's actually saying there are things that he says that will be the subject of skits and laughter and jokes. but words have meaning coming from someone who aspires to stand
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behind the seal of the president of the united states at stake these states? the swing states one way or another? well, your guess is as good as any pollster, let alone mine well, joining me now. extraordinary pollster, frank luntz, frank so good to see you. we are 15 days away. you and i have been counting down the days for quite some time, but i got to start with who she is campaigning with. former congressman, congresswoman liz cheney. and i just have to wonder, how do you think that's playing with the independent, with the moderate republican? it's the truly undecided, decided or persuadables it's so hard right now to move people almost everyone is made up their minds and those who haven't, if you're truly undecided, you're probably not going to vote you'd probably disliked both candidates you have an issue with trump's attitude with what he says, how he communicates and who he is as a person you have an issue with
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kamala harris? >> kamala harris in how she answers questions and whether she deals with specifics. and you're basically deciding this point. i don't like either of them, so i don't want to vote. so the people i'm focused on are the week supporters. and it only represents three or four 4% of the country, three or 4% of those swing states that could be enough though in those swing states is enough it absolutely is enough. it's union members in pennsylvania, wisconsin, and michigan it's young african african-american men in georgia and north carolina. it's the latino vote in arizona and nevada. very specific. and the other question is, will young women who love kamala harris will they actually go out and vote in past elections? they've shown an interest and they are definitely more democratic than any age, gender group. there are but they don't participate. i think they're
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going to vote in record numbers. i think that they're going to be a larger slice of the electorate than anytime you've seen. and that's the balance. so i can call it union members rank and file are more likely to be with trump than any republican in modern times. same thing with latino voters. and same thing with young african-american men. but the balance is those young women who can't wait to participate. so what i'm waiting to see is whether taylor swift i'm serious, whether she comes out and does a concert i think that is a big deal. i think she is as popular today as oprah winfrey was when she endorsed barak obama, and oprah's support, active support made a difference in his race, took votes away from hillary clinton, gave them to obama taylor swift, can make a difference in this race so do you stand by your earlier prediction that you think harris could still win the issue which i'm having to come face to face with with donald trump's debate performance was
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awful i argue this till the end of time. >> that what he did on that debate stage was an embarrassment. and donald trump can absolutely positively win this race. >> i think is a dead heat and trump does win. >> it will show that debates don't matter. it will show that comments and precision in communicating doesn't matter harris was correct when she said that words matter. and for her, she has to finish. she asked to close the deal and chiasm what i don't understand as a way to wrap this is that trump has been very similar in his approach, only more of it, only more extreme pushing the boundaries of communication he's finished. he has gotten the votes. he's going to get. and it may be enough for her. there is still a few people that she can close the deal on. she's not going to close it by beating up on him. we already know where he stands. she's going to close it by focusing and saying to people, i'm not
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the same person i was i've learned something over the last few five years. i am. you can trust me. you can have confidence to me and here's why and this is exactly what i will do on day one, day 100 and day 1,000. she actually hasn't done that. and that's hurting her in closing the deal. >> well, you look at what trump has been saying about these issues and what promises says he is making and beyond. but i still go back to your original point, frank. >> i thought as many people did that the idea of it was a three parties. >> it was democrats, republicans, and the couch that had gone away. now you're tired me that the couch might still be an attractive option for those who are truly undecided. we'll see what happens and they may vote but they could spoil their balance, vote for a third-party candidate, vote for a write-in. those votes absolutely matter frank luntz. >> thank you so much really important i want to bring in co-chair of the harris-walz campaign and former democratic congressman cedric richmond. so
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good to see you this evening. congressman look harris is keeping her focus on some of those very important swing states, michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin. today alone and where it polls are showing that the race is frankly a kind of a toss-up when you look at all it's going on, or within the margin of error as well can harris win? >> without the blue wall yes or no she does have more than one path to victory, but we're fighting for the blue ball. we want to win the blue wall. in fact, we could win most of the toss-up states, but it's going to take hard work is going to take communicating is going to take her doing exactly what she's doing now. and that is barnstorming those swing states and talking to every voter to earn their vote harris has enlisted liz cheney, former congresswoman and one metro detroit area mayor, who endorsed trump last month, by the way, told reporters this
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about that. >> listen it was surprising for us as the arab americans to have kamala harris bringing someone whose family name always reminds us of, war crimes in the middle east well, this is one person's perspective. >> do you think that it's shared by others or that cheney's presence could actually hurt harris with uncommitted voters in places like michigan 6 committee and perform a remarkable job in terms of shedding light and transparency on the insurrection that was led by donald trump. >> and for that i think that the country respects her for that and so we can bring her and articulate to republican voters that there is a lane for them, that there's a place for them in the harris-walz administration? i think that it's important and if you look
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at how many people voted for nikki haley even after she was out the contest, then that shows you the margin, the number, and the possibility of people that could support kamalaharris. and so you have to go out and you have to try to earn those votes. and right now, liz cheney and among almost 100 other former elected republicans are supporting kamala harris. and it's important to show people that while there has been certainly a wide spectrum of republicans who have been expressing support, i do wonder how the voters will gauge in prioritize january 6 committee and other aspects of her policies essentially it's from democrats more broadly, let alone harris, but on the issue of support, congressman harris is support among black voters is lower than previously elected democratic precedents. every year is a new opportunity. of course, every election quite distinct, let alone this one. but when we spoke last week, you said we
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have some work to do. also, you weren't conceding any votes to trump or anything like that, and she has spoken recently about needing to earn every single vote. but given the past numbers and the clock ticking, can you close the gap by election day? >> yes that's the short answer and that's what i believe. >> and i was with her on sunday, her 60th birthday. we went to two churches in georgia and the excitement is there. and i think that you see a continued to bubble up until election day. and so like any great prize fighter, you don't want to peak before the fight you want to peak on fight night. and we're going to continue to urge people to vote early, to fill out there, right in-ballots. but remember election day is fight night, and we're going to continue to push and we're going to fight through the tape and run through the tape. so we're not going to concede anyone anywhere. and we're going to tinubu to try to earn every vote we can do you have a sense of when that tape is going to
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run? >> obviously election night is 15 days away, but it's expected that we might have to go beyond that to actually call it is the campaign prepared for a possibility that it's not going to be called on tuesday, maybe even wednesday, according to secretary of state michigan, jocelyn benson with her own numbers, maybe wednesday night we are prepared for that and it's not unlike last time with so many mail-in ballots, we will predict that that would or could possibly happen this time. >> but the one thing we do know is that the polls close on election night, and we're going to fight, we're going to push and we're going to encourage people to vote up until those polls close has the chrisman. >> thank you so much for joining. we'll see what that tape. thank you so much thanks for having me ahead. elon musk's million dollar election gamble, the billionaire planning to hand out seven figure checks to trump's supporters every single day until the election but it's
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strong and tough and i refused to say it. but when he took showers with the other pros, they came out of there. they said, oh my god golf, but you know arnold palmer's daughter also is speaking out tonight on cnn it's something that seems to be seems to think is acceptable in my father's world, it wouldn't be acceptable i can't believe that his daughter actually had to address this particular point. i'm just think about that for a second. his daughter addressing a point a lewd or crude comments by a former president on a campaign trail? think about that for a second, joining us now right now we've got lulu garcia, navarro and contributor for cnn and
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democratic strategist chuck rocha, also a adviser to the trump campaign. we've got bryan lanza here as well. lulu, begin with you here because i mean look, hardly anything surprises me any longer. and i bet for many voters how they things deprives them about what donald trump has to say. but is this the kind of thing right now that you think voters are even contemplating or considering, or are they being a little bit alienated by this? >> i, mean i love women. i mean, is that really something that you're going to say in that kind of tone, which i think would make any woman just shutter if you have a problem with female voters. i mean, one would think no, but really donald trump has a problem problem controlling himself. he has a problem staying on message and more than that, he rambles end. he has a problem with focus and he has a problem with his mental state. and so
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we've seen this over and over again. and this is another symptom of that. i mean, taking away the crudity of it the fact is that if he was someone who actually wanted to win this race as he says, he does, would he actually be making this pitch? i don't think so. it says to me that he might not be in control of the things that he said, brian, i get that he wants to be entertaining. he's known as entertainer but if you've got two hours to spend 15 days before an election why are you using any airtime in front of voters who you could potentially convince to vote for you that you might mean in the end, why spend time this way? >> i think sometimes he wants to add levity to your a two-hour speech and he goes off message or he got goes on what he wants to say and you'll have those comments, but i will point out, you know, you had president brock obama on national television during the dnc debate. sort of do his hands talking about trump's side crowd sizes, sort of referencing his own jokes. but
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it's not a different same thing. but let me let me just say one of these two former presidents has been credibly accused of sexual assault and been convicted of sexual assault. and one has not. when one makes that kind of joke and talks about women in that way. people here it in a different way because of the history, because of the fact that he made comments that were broadcast about grabbing women by their genitals. i mean, this is not a man who is making jokes in a vacuum. this is a man who has a history in people who have voted on that history, were they heard that? the genital conversation back in 2016, and then 17 days later, they cast their vote for president trump because they felt that those cred, those things were not credible read the reason we're tied in these debates because of the attacks have not worked in the last four, in the last you for months or six months since harris has been running and they've been focused on the economy, on immigration. those are the things that people are talking can about. and i get that we're going to have at least probably 100 more and
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more sediments. >> do you think it's appropriate? >> listen what i think is appropriate as delivering to a positive message to the american people of economics and of a country that's going to be great again. and i compare that to a commonly harris's do it and i'm very comfortable with president trump's platform going forward. >> let me say two things. one can lawyer in me is like, well this found liable of sexual i remember one, but the other part is just later on earlier tonight, he was actually making the case in front of evangelicals about he being the person that could save this country. and he was leaning into what he proceeded. the audiences desire to hear him talk about religion more fervently and the role he might play so he is in contrast to what he is saying earlier, the moments of levity that he believes he's trying to have, is it just a sort of messaging chameleon. >> because if that's the case, isn't that people accused kamala of being sort of flip flip-flopping or a strategic i was watching earlier when you were in frank, we're talking and i think he made a point that stuck with me and it's what i see every day in polling. i think everything
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that's been said here, even things has been said about all the genital talk has all right on both cases, both for the alright, like that if you go off message off methods, is it unacceptable to say certain things? absolutely my opinion, but the voters today, some of this this is baked in, but then some of it is not. and when frank said that, if you're not voting for donald trump or you're voting for him, he does not have very much hired to grow but kamala harris does have a window where she can raise her numbers, especially with nikki haley, primary voters or moderate republicans or republicans that i'm most scared of going to vote these people vote like it's their job. they're not like a lot of other people there. some of the most reliable voters are worried about them skipping the part on the ticket and what you just were debating is going to cause people to skip or not to skip saying, i've had enough, i'll go ahead and vote for her. that's that little sliver of undecided folks who could make a big difference in this election. >> well, on that point i'm nikki haley. i mean trump says thanks, haley is going to join him in the final stretch on the campaign trail. is that true? do you know if he's gonna do that list? >> i think there's still having a conversation. i have
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been told whether its final enough, but there's certainly having a conversation about it, but i will that play between if you have haley for trump and cheney with harris, does that make a big difference, things the voters who were looking for a permission structure it lists, i don't think voters are looking for the permission structure but if you look at what the data shows today, if you look over the data showed in 2016, if you look with the data showed in 2020, you know, all of these republicans, they always came back at the right now, donald trump's getting 92% of the republican vote. >> that's actually higher than words in 2016. so we can have these narratives that, that liz cheney may play a role or we can have these narratives that nikki that nikki can play a role but the reality is, is trump is getting the largest share of the republican vote that he's ever received. and that's a direct result of his policies that he wants to implement, but also running against harris, which is unified the republican party. >> what about this comment? do we have the clip of what cheney had to say about abortion tonight? i want to play that. i'm going to i'm going to read it for you guys here instead so she'd said that republicans today could quote, vote their conscience and not ever have to say a word to anybody than talking about the dobbs decision, lulu and said, women
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not getting the care they need. it has to change. that's pretty significant to hear from cheney, number one, but also 15 days before the election, knowing that abortion, all the roe v. wade has been overturned it is not in bold print. it's an invisible ink across every ballot in this country i mean, again, this is a gender election women are going to be decisive. >> you heard that from frank luntz. it, you know, it every single poll shows this. i was just looking at a pool that's going out tomorrow. that talked about how donald trump is viewed versus kamala harris. she's viewed as more honest. she's viewed as more credible. you know, these are issues that actually matter to female voters the trump campaign has really doubled down on male voters. that is a strategy i think, for example, these arnold palmer comments might play into a certain demographic within the mail voting community. and so this is the tussle and i don't know exactly how it's all going to play out, but i do think that for women, the issue of
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reproductive rights is absolutely crucial. i've heard this from my republican leaning younger family members that they will vote on that issue. it is an important issue for them it's something really important about what you're saying, lulu. >> and is that these women, especially these married women who live in the suburbs, again, they just voted higher levels. you're going to hear everybody talking about maybe you said it earlier you're losing black man by a little bit less than what you want them by last time, you're losing latino men by a little bit. last and that is a truth and we have time to get those back in. i think those numbers will come back at some level but that don't make up for so many white women that are just that vote. like it's their job. and i think that's the difference in this election. she's overperforming with the people she needs to be overperforming with who just voted a higher rate. there's still a lot of unknowns and a lot of undetermined, but i think that's a big deal. 15 days to go until we know we got one day left to know maybe to everyone. thank you so much. ahead. i think we all know when
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something's sounds well, too good to be true that way you're just signing something, you're already believe and you can get $1 million. that's awesome well, elon musk's million dollar maga sweepstakes isn't only seemed suspect it might just be illegal. >> we'll dig into how the world's richest man, using his money to influence the election and maybe everything isn't awesome. >> next getting sexually abused by my stepfather and he got me pregnant when i was 12 have occurred in states with total abortion bans and trump did this, women and girls need to have choices? we've kamala harris, we do. >> i'm kamala harris and i approve this message
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musk's latest move to support donald trump. it's a daily million dollars giveaway for whoever signs a petition in support of the first and second amendments easy enough. right. we'll look there are some caveats there to when the money you have to live in a swing state. >> you also have to be registered voter. >> but here's the thing. this actually might be illegal. people in prominent legal scholar rick hasen, who says that musk is engaged in quote, illegal vote-buying certainly thinks so. it's also copy attention the pennsylvania governor, josh shapiro i think there are real questions with how he is spending money in this race, how the dark money is flowing not just into pennsylvania, but apparently now into the pockets of pennsylvania ones. >> i think it's something that law enforcement could take a look at. i'm not the attorney general anymore, pennsylvania. i'm the governor. but it does raise some serious questions. >> so here's a question. was election law actually say,
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well, it's a illegal for someone who quote, pays or offers to pay or accepts payment either for registration to vote or for voting. and tonight, a group of republican, former lawmakers and doj officials or advisers are also calling on age gee garland to investigate this. i want to get right to teddy schleifer. he's reporter for the new york times. teddy. good evening. look, you write about musk's giveaway is for the times and one of the experts telling you about whether this is legal or not? >> so it really comes down to what exactly people are getting in. if you sign this petition to hear the mosque camp describe it this is not a payment to register to vote. it is a payment to say that you are a supporter of the first and second amendment who isn't and you're basically entering a lottery saying you went up to $1 million, maybe you win, maybe you won't to hear people like rick hasen describe it. >> this is a bribe, essentially
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to register to vote in a really comes down to what exactly means to be eligible for this gift, because there are some things that are paid out to voters that are not illegal, such as like, you know, people can offer rides to the polls or you can get paid leave to vote. >> those things are not illegal as are pretty common well, it goes up to the line for so many people, right? the idea of are you asking them to write or giving him an incentive to register to vote or actually vote, or signing a petition that's kind of the legal murky area that everyone is trying to wrap their mind around, thinking back to the ben and jerry's case, right when they were offering what i think free pint of ice cream, people, if you voted and came to their stores, they had and later on to say, okay, everyone gets a free cone that day and said, that's how close lying people think about this. but this is 1 million bucks. we're talking about and you report array that musk's companies are under 20 different federal investigations which if this adds another layer, could be significant. of course, but it's that part of why musk is
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going all in? for trump well, look, i mean, clearly this, the world's richest person who is not solely doing this because he agrees with everything that he thinks trump says. >> although he says he does, it's impossible to disentangle his involvement in the race from his business interests. i mean, this is a guy who runs, you know, it seems like 25 different companies, not really, but it does, you can feel that way and he has business interests which are certainly worth scrutiny and regardless of whether or not that's why trump why are you on musk is doing this, you know, elon has talked about being in a government and if advisory role, the head of government waste commission. >> so you can't disentangle that from his business interests. i mean, i guess it's a little bit of scratch your back. i'll scratch mike white i scratch my back. i'll scratch yours. that's the phrase, but it's also not just musk by the way, the number of tech billionaires who are also using their platforms. and their wallets, by the way, to help trump do they want
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reaction in silicon valley to the liberalism that has defined the industry since the obama era. >> that was the age of immigration reform and then climate change and open in trade and that kinda point of view has, has fallen out of favor of silicon valley. now you had this reaction that is ascendant and elon musk is sort of tip of the spear there so in terms of the platform, i mean compared to other, billionaires who may have a very vested interest, we're even silicon valley, how powerful is musk? >> megaphone? i mean, harris has record number fundraising numbers, right? but then musk, he still has x >> look, elon musk is 200 million followers. think it is now and we forget this is not just the guys putting a ton of money in to support donald trump every single day, every single hour, every single minute, and feels like he is out there pushing a pretty anti harris message and a lot of the
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campaign being fought right now over young men in particular. and this is a group that idolize elon musk are following his every tweet and, you know, he he is a celebrity. he's one of the few people who could headline his own events and people actually show up we talked about this before when he was in pennsylvania, i mean, kind of a rockstar status, whether it will translate people actually voting a very different thing. teddy schleifer, thank you so much you bet well, the man once known as the central park five are now the exonerated five. but donald trump's still says they're guilty. well now the man array to stop trump from spreading this lie more on that saturday at nine on cnn least saving on your family's medication is prescription savings made easy another good
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even though their names were totally cleared. they admitted they said they pled guilty. and i said, well, if they pled guilty, they badly hurt a person, killed a person ultimately. and if they pled guilty, then they pled not guilty. >> remember that moment in the debate against kamala harris last month. well, he is now being sued by the exonerated five, and they say his quote, false and defamatory comments during the debate are extreme and outrageous they're convictions were tossed in 2002 and new york city paid them 41 million over there wrongful conviction. the men never pleaded guilty. the victims survived and another man ultimately admitted the 1989 rape and was convicted but trump has never believed the exonerated five were innocent. he has used their case to advocate to bring back the death penalty in new york state. and today, trump's
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campaign called the lawsuit, quote. another frivolous election interference lawsuit to distract from the voters for the harris campaign with me now, shame inspector, lead counsel for the exonerated five in their lawsuit against donald trump. shane. and thank you for joining us this evening this case. and what happened to those five haunts the nation there i say the globe and trump. he has repeated these accusations for literally, for decades, even though they were completely exonerated. and your clients are going to get justice. you say this time, what does that look like for them? >> well, laura, we want a trial they have to clear their names now all over again because in front of 67 million americans on september 10 in that mr. trump said that they had killed this woman and that they had
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pled guilty. and both of those things are not true. so now we have to clear their names all over again in a courtroom, in a trial where we're going to be seeking damages to both compensate these five men and to punish mr. trump defamation cases can be difficult if it's a public figure, particularly at a shown actual malice standard that they actually meant to do and chastening that was incorrect and not truthful and would lower their perception or reputation that community. >> he's a well, he's well aware of defamation cases. he lost a suit this year brought by e. jean carroll carolyn was ordered to pay $83 million. is that case a kind of roadmap for your clients well, every definite mentioned case is different on the facts, but in terms of the law to be applied, it is the same law and mr. trump has only a passing
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acquaintanceship with the truth. >> unfortunately, and that is on display in this situation. he has been after these five men for the last 35 years, and he's known for more than 20 years that they were absolutely not guilty because the guilty person confessed his dna was matched to the victim. he was tried. he was convicted, he was imprisoned the da of manhattan filed papers to have these men's convictions vacated. the judge signed the order so there's no doubt that they are not guilty. everyone knows they're not guilty. who has studied the matter? but mr. trump persists in this alternate reality, which she would prefer, which is that they beat the day, be guilty in his mind and that he communicates that in this debate to the entire nation i mean, it's so well-known that they are exonerated and did not commit the crimes has actually
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called her often referred to as exonerated five, i mean, the idea that they are having to go through this again as adults, which is quite different, but still knowing that they did not commit these crimes and certainly that is almost universally known. >> i wonder what you make of trump's response to the lawsuit. there was campaign, accusing your clients of get this election interference what's your reaction to that? >> well, i think it's unfortunate that mr. trump had his campaign respond to this matter. it's a lawsuit and he ought to have his lawyer respond and his lawyer should say whether it's true or whether it's false. >> and this is not an issue about politics. >> it's not an issue about the campaign. it's an issue about these allegations that he defamed these five men and he's going to have to face those allegations. in a court of law where it'll have an attorney representing him and not a campaign spokesperson. so
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i just think it's unfortunate that he's decided to take that this is all politics route. >> one more thing, laura, if i may say, i know that, you know, this case very well and you know, these are not guilty. but 67 million americans watched that debate and nearly no one who watched that debate has the familiarity with the facts that you have, the reality is, is that most americans don't know much or anything about this incident that occurred in new york city in 1989 they don't know who the central park five are now called the exonerated five correctly and so when he says these things about these men, that they pled guilty, that they killed this woman. of course, he's not dead at all. he is, he is creating an impression out there. the soils, their names, and that requires them to clear their names in a court of law shane inspector will follow this case very closely.
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>> thank you so much for joining laura. >> thank you there's more to our conversation. >> i asked shame inspector about this moment from after the debate when donald trump ran into a member of the exonerated five, yusef salaam. you can hear what the lawyer has to say about this on my instagram and x accounts at the laura coates ahead, trump tries to supersize his campaign i'm looking for a job and i've always wanted to work at mcdonald's the, former president's latest campaigns done picking up a shift at an empty mcdonald's in philadelphia was winning move or a photo up flop because running a small business takes them that's why we're the help protect your privacy. >> and they give your business or real street address, story. >> so while you're juggling
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wouldn't say it if i didn't truly believe it. >> i'm pete munte at reagan national airport. >> this is cnn closed captioning brought to you by rula law, iconic brands up to 70% off retail at rula law.com, rubella you never paid for sees the deals on top before their car south always wananted to work at mcdonald's wait a minute. >> i spilled i'm very
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superstitious so we talked about the red and the blue of a 2024 election. >> but now we've got to talk about the gold, the golden arches to these specific mickey d's has been thrust into the political spotlight at the trump traded his suit for an apron to manned the fry machine in a staged photo-op then pennsylvania over the weekend. it's the same job. the vp harris says she held in college 40 years ago with trump continues to baselessly claim that she is lying about it when asked about an issue that was key for many mcdonalds workers, the minimum wage and raising it well, trump dodged well, i think this i think these people to work hard. >> they're great. >> and i just saw something a process as uniform. >> it's a beautiful thing to see if he's a great franchise this is harris, of course, seizing on that answer on the campaign trail today my opponent, donald trump does not believe we should raise minimum wage. >> i absolutely believe we must raise minimum wage and that
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hardworking americans, whether they're working in donalds or anywhere else, should have at least the ability to be able to take care of their family and take care of themselves here, discuss marsha chattel age is a professor of african studies at the university of pennsylvania. >> also the author of the pulitzer prize winning book, franchise, the golden arches and black american okay, a great book. >> i'm glad that you're here today with me as well. how effective is it for trump to do this on the campaign trail? >> i mean, how effective is me of his shenanigans? i think what he actually was doing when he was at that mcdonald's was caused playing a working class person, but reminding everyone that he doesn't have to work that hard, that he doesn't have to worry about the conditions of fast-food workers. so i find it personally insulting as a person from a working class family, but i think a lot of trump's appeal is the fantasy that you can have lots of money and still enjoy something like mcdonald's and connect to the very people that you disregard it sounds condescending deeply, but yet many might look at this
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and say, well, what different from that? >> essence say pancake breakfast, or walk around the state fair, or kissing babies. politicians do think there's genuinely all the time. why is this specifically so different? >> well, what it does, it degrades the sophistication of fast-food work. you have to be concerned about safety efficiency. you have to feed a lot of people in a short period of time as someone who gets really angry after thanksgiving dinner that i cook, i have profound respect for fast food workers. and so when you can just walk into the kitchen and cook fries and indulge in your fantasies. you really do lose sight of all the opportunities to really learn about how workers survived. >> you have a new op-ed out today talking about how mcdonald's has been a symbol of american i can capitalism four years and over half of the mcdonald's workforce is either black or hispanic. what is the franchise itself represent particularly among black and latino communities? >> well, for a long time, the idea of a franchise was considered the pinnacle of african american or latino
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business success because people had been shot shout out of so many other opportunities. i think in many ways it's a double-edged sword on one hand mcdonald's has always said that the franchise is something that working people could aspire to. but the reality is that the wages that working people make rarely leads to enough savings to invest in a franchise. but as someone who grew up black in chicago, the network of black mcdonald's franchise owners was always really important because they played an important civic and political role in communities were also really 80s or late 80s. and we're talking about calvin getting right cabinet out there. you had to mcdonald's franchise. i've coming to america, try and do a spin off of this friday, guys as well. it's sort of baked into the recipe as as a fixture of what it could mean for entrepreneurial success as well, which adds to why mcdonald's as a corporation did not have to sanction his availability or being there. it's about a franchise specifically for that. but he is continuing to claim without evidence and kind of trolling harris now about this, that he
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has worked there longer then she has it is reminiscent of his refusal to believe the facts that are stated by the candidate he opposes it harkens back to another person from chicago in many ways well, i mean, i think that when you don't have substance, you have no policy platform. >> you don't have a lot of talent and a lot of skills that your best bet it's just to say that everyone's lying. and as someone like donald trump, who's very intimately aware of how to lie all the time. you just you lead with that and you keep it going. and i don't think anyone actually believes that the harris campaign made up that she worked at mcdonald's? i think ultimately is that he knows that there's nothing really to say more about it. and so we get the stunts and we get the lies about harris, how problematic is it for him not to have answered the question about the minimum wage? >> well, this is the fundamental problem. i think in all political discourse, right? we use people and their jobs as prompts but the question is, who's going to actually be? the accountable for elevating
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the lives of working people. and so the fact that he can't talk about the minimum wage, but he suggests that there'll be no taxes on tips. shows that he really doesn't have a sound economic plan. what he has are a series of responses to the fact that he's not doing very well in this campaign i love being next to a brilliant woman and she's here with me today. >> marsh to chalian. thank you so much view and hey, thank you all for watching anderson cooper 360 is next harris and liz cheney and search of swing-state repupublicans looking to bail o trump, the former president making fries the appearances in north carolina is still spreading falsehoods about hurricane relief after weekend that saw him marvel out loud. >> it would legendary golfer arnold palmer was carrying on the course. and later, john king all over the map talking to michigan auto workers key >> key voters in a crucial state, just 15 days from now. good evening. thanks very much for joining
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