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were you and your journalistic colleagues from cnn who were held captive? >> how are you all doing? >> we're all doing well, were reunited with our families and we are lucky, but we want to keep the focus very much on the people of dark for the stories that aren't being told. and the broader conflict in sudan, which the un says is the worst humanitarian crisis in the world right now, wolf clarissa ward, we're thank, we thank god that you and your team are okay right now, what you're one of our courageous journalists and we're always grateful for all your reporting. thanks so much for joining us. and to our viewers. thanks very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in the situation room. erin burnett outfront starts right now news, this cnn exclusive, kamala harris townhall
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happening soon as harris and top democrats go all into condemned trump and his reported praise for hitler's generals. >> trump hitting back hard this hour, plus new reporting tonight from our kfile, trump's own campaign manager retweeting and liking posts, blaming trump for january 6. one post even called for invoking the 25th amendment against trump paypal's report and breaking news, the justice department putting elon musk unknown what is for his battleground sweepstakes scheme is mosque breaking the law and by the way, who exactly has won the million dollars a day from him so far will tell you, let's go outfront and good evening. i'm erin burnett outfront tonight on message with just 13 days until election day and moments away from our exclusive presidential town hall with kamala harris tonight, the vice president going all in on the allegations in the atlantic magazine against trump claiming trump told general kelly, quote, i need the kind of generals that hitler had. here's harris today
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incredibly dangerous that donald trump would invoke adolf hitler the man who is responsible for the deaths of 6 million jews and hundreds of thousands of americans. >> donald trump is increasingly unhinged and unstable and in a second term, people like john kelly would not be there to be the guardrails against his propensities echoing the vice president while he went to early vote in minnesota i think for many of us, the last 24 hours certainly have been a bit shaking with the reporting coming out in the atlantic donald trump's dissension into madness and john kelly, who i thank for showing the courage to come forward truly telling the world those close just to donald trump, know how dangerous he is
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all right, all this has trump's campaign resorting to insoles to respond in a statement, the campaign today writing kamala harris is a stone-cold loser who is increasingly desperate because she is flailing and her campaign is in shambles. she is despicable and grotesque behavior proves she is wholly unfit for office. there's a lot of use of the adjective there. we will see what trump does. he is about to speak in georgia at this hour. we'll see what his direct response to all this is and of course, we can expect harris to respond when she takes the stage at cnn's town hall in pennsylvania. that of course, is coming up here and jeff zeleny is outfront live inside that town hall. it's in delaware county, pennsylvania. so jeff, what are you hearing from the campaign about tonight? and how much hair is obviously today, they have seized on the atlantic and they have been running with that pounding the table. is that going to be what she tries to do tonight as well? >> erin, this now
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presidential campaign, or certainly a big chunk of it. this is something that of course, she's been pointing to many comments from the former president from his time in office, but also his time on the campaign trail about how he in her words, he's unfit. he's unhinged. he's unstable. we do expect the vice president to continue that this evening. we saw her remarks earlier today really trying to jump on every single piece of new information that comes out about the former president to amplify her message, why she believes it's time for change we're also learning tonight that she is scheduled to hold a speech next tuesday night, one week before election on the ellipse course. that is where donald trump gave that speech on january 6. so this is a big part of her campaign, but here they're going to be undecided and persuadable voters right outside philadelphia in delaware county. this is the place she needs to run up the margins. if she is going to defeat the former president here in pennsylvania, her campaign is aware of that they
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do believe these undecided voters, these movable voters, are paying more attention now at this race. so she has two objectives. one to persuade and to motivate those voters. and she intends to do that tonight. alright. by explaining some policy ideas on the economy, of course, abortion rights. but we are closing this campaign in a way oddly that it began when president biden was the nominee about democracy, about january 6 as well. this is something that harris campaign was not always planning on. but they believed trying to win over some of those voters that slice of voters potentially in the middle who are undecided, or maybe reacting to a donald trump's comments about the enemy within and other things. so look for her to continue that tonight. erin, 13 days before election day 13 days before election day. and so many with these early vote, and we saw tim walz, they're voting early voting is happening as we speak. our jeff zeleny, thank you very much. we're going to pick him with jeff in just a little bit. everyone's here with me now though, obviously, on this
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important evening so ashley, you know, democrats have been seizing on the atlantic, reporting and what john kelly says, trump said is it smart for democrats to go all in on this now some of the hitler comments, i mean, it's an odd world to be in, but we have heard these before write something similar. it's not as if this is sort of a new thing for most people, is this, is this going to fall on fertile ground for her? >> i don't think they're just seizing on it now. i think this has been a part of their campaign strategy really from the beginning to talk about the threat that donald trump is to our democracy. and i think this just gives another proof point. someone who was so close to him, his former chief of staff is now saying that this is a reminder to the american people but i have always said that i think this is a three-point triangular approach to how we can persuade voters. she should be talking about this as a threat and not let people forget the type of language and type of leader that donald trump would be. but she also should still talk about issues like reproductive rights that
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so many americans care about. and the economy and how she can, she is gone according to a plan to provide relief to them. so i think it is one thing she should talk about, but it's not the only thing row well, my sense is that early on in the campaign, what harris was trying to do was define herself, defined herself as someone who is moderate, middle of the road, someone who was very much a mainstream democrat i think that that hasn't gotten her all the juice that you wanted to. >> and right now what she's trying to do is basically raised this idea that trump is extreme partly because that's unstable, unhinged, dangerous, and really those worrying. >> extreme is really important here because that's something that will unite her voters and also might win over some number of persuasion people who are republican leaning independents. now the problem for her here is that trump you know, as someone who is not always the most disciplined. but in recent weeks has actually run a pretty disciplined campaign that's a big part of why this election is as competitive as it is. and it really does seem as though harris is moving from one
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strategy to another. when one doesn't quite land. so there is a real sense that there's panic here. and this is why you could say they're playing the hits. >> alright, so jamal, let me ask you, i put a gun in the context of harris saying unhinged, unstable walz descent to madness, just to put the radical rhetoric out there because then the statement from the trump campaign was i don't know mount saying he wrote it himself. we'll see what he says in georgia and abet stone-cold loser, desperate, flailing, despicable, grotesque behavior, unfit for office. so should, how should harris directly respond to this tonight to this issue with the atlantic magazine, hitler's generals, the thank mexicans, because that's going to come up one of my favorite responses from a friend of ours, robert gibbs, he was white house press secretary, was, can you quote me yawning i just don't think that this is that big of a deal for donald trump to attack back from using that kind of language we've heard him do this before. >> part of what the vice president's got to do tonight is to then go back and say,
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see, this is exactly what i'm talking about. right? we are taught, we have a country that has a variety of needs. we've got a variety of things we need to address we've got to deal with our education system. we got to deal with our housing costs. we've got to deal with a variety of things. and then this guy is just calling people names like he's in the school yard. but i think there's a bigger question at the table. the bigger question right now is a few months ago in the summer, we saw joe biden go out in the debate stage and he did something that democrats were very uncomfortable with, allow republicans were uncomfortable with it. they said, maybe joe biden isn't really up to running for another four years. and democrats had to step up and say, you know what? maybe this could be something that's right. we saw a lot of democrats say that they risked themselves, they risk their reputations, they risk their relationships at a moment. seems like republicans are going to have to do this to we keep finding out these things about this president where our worst fears are confirmed, that he actually does have autocratic and dictatorial tendencies. he does want a sic the press the military on his enemies. he'll do that even two republicans, at what point
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do the republican party to the republicans say, you know what for the sake of country, country over party, even though it's uncomfortable, even though it's something i may not it makes me feel a turns me say i agree with the policy this guy shouldn't be in office it probably will shock kamala harris and the rest of her campaign staff to learn that there are incumbent democrat us senators in this country right now running television ads touting all their work with this modern day hitler. >> i wonder if kamala harris tonight and our town hall meeting, will call for them? take these ads off the air touting their work with his hitler, i mean, if he were really hitler, if he were really a threat to democracy, not a single democrat in this country would be running ads touting their work with donald trump. now i'm callisto on this hitler business because i lived through the bush years and i used to appear out my window onto pennsylvania avenue and i saw everybody any margin around and brown uniforms signs up, bushes, hitler bushes, hitler, and then they did it to
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john mccain. they did it to mitt romney. they've done it to donald trump, even did it to paul ryan. i recall at one point, so i've heard it all before and i think the reason democrats are freaking out about it right now is because what they have learned is that it's not republicans who are the hitler's or the nazis. it's actually emanating from within their own party if you want to find hitler ish nazi-esque anti-semitic tendencies, look on the left, that's what's got. >> you're ducking the issue because this isn't democrats outside hitler, the former president's united's, the former president's chief-of-staff saying this about his boss. it's her knows, everyone when things that the vice president noted states is deputy president. that's not sure chief of staff is actually the deputy president in the united states and when that person comes out and says this is a problem and it's his words, it's not like george w bush ever said. he didn't, he admired hitler
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the timing and i know that kelly has spoken about this in some ways before, so i don't want to act as if he suddenly putting it out now. but the timing of this all coming out right now if you have some political, some that you think is going to be politically useful, you want to drop it right before i understand the strategy of it, is that what we're looking at? >> i don't think so. i don't think that general kelly is in cahoots with kamala harris's campaign. i think is the furthest from the truth. i think that he is seeing that this election is super close and as duty as someone who is wanting to serve his country, he feels like he has important information that the voters should know before they cast their votes. now somebody who have already voted well, i think this is actually going to be determinative to the outcome of the election. minimally, i think that people already know bush running on it she should because it's we're going it's a memo. well, when you get information, when you get information, i'm saying that they're not he didn't drop this out as a favorite kamala
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harris, he dropped this out as a favorite to americans as a favor to our democracy. and i think that she should run on because the arguments got that it's right there it's right. let's say that he actually said it. there's one thing that republicans elect a guy who wants to emulate hitler, jamal, wait, wait. >> when you all clean up the thousands upon thousands of far-left anti-semitic mobsters in your party, then you can question about general kelly said ryan. >> i go, hey, i will say obviously there's some people who were in the room now saying, i mean, to your point, right, you're saying if it did happen what we just they did, right. i understand that. but jamal is putting political hat on the fundamental issue is this, whether people like it or not? donald trump is perceived as more moderate than the republican party whether it's entitlements, a range of issues, he's perceived as closer to your rust belt voter, kamala harris is perceived as lacking out limiting to eliminate taxes. i'm pretty much just to be clear, kamala harris is perceived as less moderate as to the left of beau biden biden folks who love
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kamala harris might disagree with that. they might not like that, but that's how she is perceived. that is why she feels a need to change and move in a different direction and this is why the trump campaign now has significant momentum. kamala harris has to win all three blue wall states if she loses one of them, if she loses wisconsin, it's game over for her. and that's why they do something. >> i all stay here because we're actually a talk about that is a crucial issue and none of you are going anywhere. so next, kfile, kfile is going to be here and he has some revelations and they are that trump's campaign manager retweeted and liked post blaming trump, virginia anyway, six and even supported calls for the 25th amendment to be used against trump. >> so how is well, chris lacivita and the trump campaign explaining this tonight, plus control of the house house may come down to for new york house races why democrats, when it comes to the house, have a lot to be hopeful about tonight. breaking news, kim jong un coming two putin's aid, us
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>> so kfile's andrew kaczynski joins me now. >> as donald trump and doing the last couple of weeks, he's been recasting january 6. he called it a day of love. he spread conspiracy theory that it was a government staged inside job. well, one person we found who is seeming and we disagreed with him was his own campaign manager. alright. and this guy liked, and he shared posts condemning trump on january 6. and i want to walk people through some of them. you referenced that one in the intro, the 25th amendment. now, this was a tweet that he actually liked from a former republican member of congress barbara comstock was saying that, quote, twitter locked at real donald trump for 12 hours. now the cabinet needs to lock him down for 14 days hashtag 25th, and then now the 25th amendment basically says that the cabinet can basically keep the president and i take the
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powers away from the president if he's essentially incapacity, they were calling for him to do this after january 6. that's one thing his campaign manager like you also shared a lot of posts on his feed, some of which we found that he removed one of them was a statement from former president george w bush that laid the blame at the feet of donald trump, justice a couple of quotes from there that said, i am appalled by the reckless behavior of some political leaders since the election and added that the rioting at the capitol was quote, undertaken by people whose passions have been inflamed by falsehoods and false hopes again, seemingly pointing the finger at trump and then another post shared by lacivita was this text message that said, quote, this is a disgusting tragedy. someone literally lost their life because of a lie that trump told. and that again, essentially points the finger at donald trump and then one more post talked about the people rioting at the capitol and said, quote, these are not protesters. these they are dogs.
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>> alright, so you asked chris lacivita. chris lacivita, i'm sorry about the posts. what what his response. >> so we did reach out to the campaign. we said, how do you square these as i mentioned, some of them had been removed, one of them was still on his feed and in a statement to cnn, they said retweets and likes this is for him lacivita retweets and likes or not endorsements. i'm focused on winning the election two weeks from now, not distractions from cnn okay. >> all right. we'll stay with me. we're all familiar with the likes and retweets don't equal sign endorsements, except for in cases like this when it wasn't it wasn't on his feet, but it's not like an intellectual. it was somebody some people put that up top so even if you do is what i'm saying, but he didn't even do it. so that's fair. okay. >> jamal how significant is it that the person who is leading the trump campaign, chris lacivita, was was retweeting and liking these posts look as someone who has had his own bout twitter in the past i think i think we have to be a
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little judicious when we think about long ago tweets. the problem here though is that it is part of a pattern among republicans that's hard to ignore. we just finished this entire segment talking about john kelly, who the chief of staff we've seen mark esper, who was defense secretary. we've seen other national security officials, communications officials, who all felt so uncomfortable that what happened that day. and now we have the presence campaign manager, who when the cameras weren't on him said what he probably really believed. the question is, why would he trade that moral consistency for some sort of political power? i don't know if that's exactly where it as it happened but i do think it is part of a hole that is just becoming harder and harder to ignore. >> scott. i know you're close, you know, chris lacivita. well, you've spent a lot of time with him. you've spoken to him here and in recent hours or day how do you see it? >> well, first of all, i've known for over 20 years, i think he's probably the best political operative and a republican party and most republicans, i know in politics right now are saying, thank god for chris lacivita. he's done a hell of a job. he's put donald trump in a position to win if
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he does win, a big part of it will be because of the campaign that he and susie and the rest of the team. yeah, that's number one. number to one of his favorite sayings is when you're taking flak, you must be over the target. and i think that's how he feels right now look, and i'll just speak for myself on this air. i wrote and said some of the same emotional reactions to january the sixth that chris had a lot of republicans did. and i'll answer your question directly. the reason republicans are going to end up voting republican in for trump and for the republican ticket is because of what the democratic party has done for the last four years and what they would do under kamala harris, i'm certain chris feels that way. i feel that way. and there's not a politician alive that i think any of us agree with 100% of the time and i started certainly don't like everything donald trump has said and done, but i have already voted happily cast my vote for trump despite my misgivings and continued misgivings about what happened on january the sixth and millions of republicans are
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going to do the same trade. >> the constitution for some policies that i'm not trading in the constitution. when he said, he go after. journalists. but if you want to journal plus journalists put in jail like that, he might go after the first amendment of his, of his citizens have the military use against him. that is not something that most people who you put in jail called call barak obama. he set the precedent on that lacivita, though, has doesn't want people to i mean, i guess it's not surprising, but he deleted some of these polls, right? >> he does was hoping people would not see them. yeah so how did you how did you find them? >> but they existed so we you know, those numbers, erin, at the end of the tweet where it's like 578, whatever those actually mean, something timestamp for when the tweet was sent so we went shoe. yeah. i know i'm like what archive's went to the way back machine. >> we went and we go, we went and we looked at his tweets from that day. or we went we
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looked at what the the timestamps were for sweets. that's as we popped in to see any of his that we could pull from that day and we found these ones that we had shared that we're no longer on his feed it's pretty easy all right. >> so what we do and i guess the question is you all are having an important conversation? >> about whether a person can evolve on the issue of january 6. i think there's a lot of people watching who feel like you've filled your mom, maybe some like you feel scott, but that's one thing. the other thing is how many people is going to influence to know something like this. you have james carville come out tonight, reihan, and he he's obviously heavily responsible for biden coming off the ticket. he's been pessimistic about democrats chances at times, but now it's un, it says harris is going to win he's certain of it. he cites her money advantage, trump's election losses since 2016, and carville rights. just a feeling just a feeling what do you think will it's not clear to
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me that that feeling is going to guarantee harris a victory, in part because we're talking a lot about things that donald trump said and did several years ago. >> there are a lot of folks in the wider public who remember things that kamala harris said and did several years ago including during her 2020 presidential campaign, including statements about, for example, sex reassignment surgeries for migrant detainees, something that the kfile broke, among others, there are a lot of stories like this where you have to believe that she has a drastically different position today that is more in line with the wider american public. you have to believe that despite the fact that you never explained why her views change so markedly. she hasn't said we went too far. she hasn't said democrats got this one wrong. she hasn't said, let me meet you in the middle and explained why i'm meeting you in the middle. it's all my values haven't changed. my position is totally different. how dare you ask me why? and that just doesn't hear what you say, but ashley. >> okay? what what carville said, money advantage, true?
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trump's election losses in 2016, true? i'll add in record-breaking early voting, every single place you look, we don't know who that favors traditionally democrats could be different this time we don't know, but nonetheless, you're seeing that? yes. polls in swing states, which have consistently shown her up within the margin of error. so we call it a dead heat because it is. >> but i'm just saying if all these things were flipped and it was trump, people would be saying trump was winning. >> yes. okay. as someone who has often make presidential predictions off of feelings in 2016 i believe donald trump is going to win off a feeling and 2020 before the democratic nomination even was secured by joe biden, i knew he would win the presidency tonight. i will make a prediction based off of feelings that i think kamala harris will win and i will tell you why. i think that there are a lot of there's a silent majority out there that don't want to talk about politics that are sick gov, it might not like her policies and might have questions about why she has changed, but what they
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aren't changing on is our constitution. and so they believe when she says that, i will have a republican in my cabinet or i have been vice president for four years and i have gone around and expanded my views on different things that she will lead i think women and this election will be the determinant factor because i think losing a constitutional right fills gutting to a lot of people, even if you don't believe in abortion, to lose a right and know you can lose it and have less rights than your mother had in this time. i think that is why commonly here. >> and we hit pause there, but of course all coming back here over this evening with the harris townhall coming up next a crucial question on which way this is going. the house. are democrats about to win control of the house? it could come down to just four races in the state new york, harry enten here to break it all down, plus breaking news, the fed's putting elon musk on notice after he gave voters million dollars checks. okay. there's the question of whether it's illegal and then there's the question i really want to know the answer to, which is who actually won the money and what are they doing with it
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hulu max mundo plant starting get 16, 19 and a mom pictures from delaware county, pennsylvania where cnn will be holding an exclusive town hall with vice president kamala harris in just a little over an hour. it comes as democrats are starting to feel bullish about their chances of gaining control of the house. so they need more seats to succeed in doing that net. and of course it could all come down to new york. that is where four of the country's most vulnerable republicans won their seats by less than five points two years ago. and tonight, they're all running behind their democratic opponents. harry enten is at the magic wall, so harry, you know, obviously the house is
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massive, so being able to boil it down to look at these four so crucial, where are these districts and how close are they right now? >> yeah, so let's take a tour of the great state of new york at something i want to do this time of year it look, you point out the basic math democrats need a net gain of four. i think they could get them from the state of new york. let's show you where these districts are. first, let's start off in the syracuse area. and where are we going? we're looking at the 22nd district. right. this fixture has actually been redistricted to be more favorable to democrats. but last time around brandon williams, the republican, won by only a point. so democrats think they can pick up a seat there. let's slow down. i81. alright, we're going to go to the big ten area. all right, here's another district, the 19th democrats think they have a pretty good shot. marc molinaro, look at that won by less than two points last time around, that's another district let's go down the hudson valley down at seven, right? mike lawler, last time around in the 17th district won by less than a percentage point so that's another thing how about district number four? we're going to go out to long island. let's see if i can hit this button correctly. idea. we're gonna go to the fourth district. anthony d'esposito,
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last time around won by less than four percentage points. so those are four races that were determined by less than five points last time around, where are they at this particular moment? let's take a look at some house forecasts. alright, these are an aggregator mission of forecasts. and look what we have on your screen, aaron, we got a lot of blue on your screen. look at this forecast, predicting for new york for on long island plus nine for the democrat new york 17 jones, up by a zero point. well within the margin of error. how about riley in new york, 19 all right? up by just a point, again, well, within the margin of error. and then new york 22 mannion, a six point advantage that's one i think democrats could definitely flip aaron. >> well, you know, and it's interesting, of course, and you think uptick at what all this could mean, that's significant as well. there is another race though, in new york that you're watching harry, which is not currently show a democrat leading. but the fact that there's no clear leader theater at this point might say a lot big picture about where republicans stand and this democrat happens to be someone that our viewers know well somebody that we personally love, john avlon?
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>> yeah, exactly. right. so we're going to go all the way the eastern end along in look, nick lalota, last time around the first district won this district by over ten points and that was why it was so surprising when we saw poll that just came out this past week and look at this no clear leader lalota, up by only three points over john avlon, who of course, formerly worked here at cnn. this is a race that i frankly didn't think was going to be all that close given the result last time around. but avlon looks to be giving lalota a run for his money, right? >> avlon obviously running as a democrat. you know, he had worked for giuliani's a moderate. if democrats win the house though, harry and you look at what that means, it could make history in other ways. >> it could make history in other ways i enjoyed our trip down the lie by the way are and let's take a look here. >> well, you're the only one. i'm the only one. it often times as such right? republicans are favored in the senate. democrats might have a slight edge in the house. you know, the last time that the two houses flipped in opposite directions, it's never happened, erin, it's never happened. so what happens if it
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happens this year? we will be making history and you know what erin i think in this segment, we just made history we made because someone likes to drive i've done the lie. of course. that's exactly right. >> i think i'm trying to think where do okay thank you very much. and now i want to go to democratic congresswoman debbie dingell of michigan, and congresswoman, when you hear harry lay this out, how democrats could take back the house. and obviously he was focusing specifically on the state of new york and how it could happen there. do you think it's realistic? >> i do believe i think the presidential election is very tight in the battleground states, but i think we are doing better in these house races. i think you're going to see more ticket splitters send some people expect to see this year, but i have been following all of these races, district right? district. and i'm feeling optimistic that we will take the house if feeling optimistic about that, let me ask you now about these swing states that are so close because you mentioned the ticket splitting so let's get
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to at politico has a piece out today about arab american voters in your state who they say are quote, furious at harris as the war in gaza is raging, and one person from dearborn told politico that voters quote, may vote for donald trump just to punish biden and harris, just to say, look what you've done and of course, congresswoman 100,000 michigan democrats did cast uncommitted ballots in the primary, and that was then making a statement about the situation in gaza. >> do you believe that harris could lose michigan over this issue look, this is an issue that i want to be really clear people on all sides of the issue law hrdy, passionate i spent a great they deal of my time with the community right now listening to them. >> there are angry people. there are people that aren't going to vote for either candidate there are some i don't think that they're going to be donald trump is working
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this community very hard. let me be clear about that. but people have not forgotten the month slam bam. they have not forgotten. he's talking about internment camps. so i think there are a lot of arab americans haven't made up their mind yet. i think some are going to vote for the vote for the vice president, and some may just not vote, but it is not a community that's gone. so i think that's interesting. >> i appreciate your giving such an honest evaluation of the situation when it comes to michigan in many paths to 270 must-win for the vice president. she has now launched the harris campaign is their second tv ad targeting specifically jill stein, who's the green party candidate airing in your state? stein is trying to seize on the harris problem with arab american voters, not just trump, but stein is as well. and i want to play some of what she said recently at an event in dearborn. she was speaking with the group that its literal name congresswoman, is abandoned harris
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compass for a nation that is lost at sea resist the propaganda telling you to hold your nose and vote for genocide if you vote for genocide, you are consenting to it. >> you are enabled at 1% in michigan right now, but it's a race between harris and trump that's a complete dead heat, right? and we've all seen that, that jill stein can can, can flip a state based on how she does. so do you think that she is hurting harris? in michigan right now look, i want to take this very seriously a third party candidates have determined races in michigan before and she is not going to win. >> let me make that really clear jill stein is not going to win this presidential race. so a vote for jill stein is a vote for donald trump and i think we got to be very clear on that talking to people. so
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been very clear with people that i want them to understand what that vote could meet. >> all right. well, congresswoman, i appreciate your time. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> debbie dingell, next the breaking news, the justice department for sending out a notice putting elon musk on notice will tell you exactly why plus new video showing what appears to be thousands of north korean soldiers in russia training to help fight for putin before election day. >> vice president harris bases voters and takes the pressing questions, lie anderson cooper moderates a cnn presidential town hall kamala harris, tonight at nine eastern on cnn at fisher investments. we may look like other money managers, but we're different. >> you can't be that different. >> we are we have a team of specialists, not only in
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doj has warranty elon musk's pro-trump super pac, that is million dollars sweepstakes and battleground states could be illegal. >> tesla ceo giving way 1 million every day to registered voters who signed a petition supporting the first and second amendments this is tonight we are learning more about before winners so far and whether they even voted for trump jason carroll is outfront we are going to be awarding $1 who have signed the sign the petition every day from now until the election first it happened in harrisburg on saturday. >> by the way, john had no idea so anyway, you're welcome. then again, just outside pittsburgh on sunday hand out $1 million each day
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until election day to registered voters in battleground states whose sign his petition supporting the first and second amendments so far, four winners identified and according to publicly available records, all previously registered republican voters musk signature on all the checks in my name is john john dre. are at that event in harrisburg, followed by christine official, who took the stage outside pittsburgh. she had until may announced in mckees rocks, pennsylvania and andy stanley named in holly springs, north carolina cnn could not reach any of the winners for comment musk, super pac has not returned request for comment as well in social media posts, the group says, winners would be selected to earn 1 million million dollars as a spokesperson for america pac, some of them have already recorded videos for musk political action committee. according to musk super pac website, only those registered to vote in swing states of arizona, michigan, georgia,
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nevada, north carolina, pennsylvania, or wisconsin, or else which able to win. sources tell cnn the justice department sent a letter to the super pac warning the daily 1 million giveaway to registered voters in swing states might violate federal laws, citing it's illegal to incentivize registration with cash or prizes. >> i think for now do voters who might register to vote, and this being the inducement like i can have an opportunity to get $1 million. it certainly feels like that kind of exchange. the same time. the mexican supreme court has been very narrow and how it's construed bribery statutes, molar also warns that voters who signed the petition could potentially face legal trouble for ics stepping money in exchange for their vote. though it should be noted that doj has not accused any winners or signers of the petition of any wrongdoing. >> i think what the department of justice is going to be weighing as it tries to figure out whether to prosecute and how how aggressive it wants to
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be in its thing. >> we'll 18 winners, 18 million, perhaps a drop in the bucket for the world's richest billionaire who was already donated nearly $75 million to his pro-trump super pac. the question is, will it have a ripple effect among registered voters in those swing states? polling indicates that presidential race is still a tossup. >> there's some bad publicity that you've seen out there as people are upset alleging that he's essentially trying to buy an election. but then there are people who think it's good that he's stepping up and showing his support for trump it's fascinating and i'm fascinated by the people winning, but it's also the doj's position here. >> you know, if they if they don't take action, what sort of pandora's box does this open? >> well, look, when you talk to legal experts, there is a worry that there's a slippery slope here that if unchecked, this
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could open the door to other kinds of offers. look, it doesn't have to be $1 million. it could be much, much less than that could be lowered, be anything. it could be a gift. but what it does is it opens that door if unchecked and i were talking about the doj. i mean, look, the doj issued this warning which basically means look, we've got our eye on it, but in terms of what, if anything, is going to happen, i mean, that's pretty much very much unanswered question at this point. yeah. >> well, i mean, it's an unprecedented situation that they're in, but the precedent does matter. alright, thanks so much. jason carroll and outfront next thousands of north koreans are now inside russia. and what they're doing matters a lot to the usa political analysis. >> we have all kinds of questions about to feel so stupid person questions, what biden do that said the right
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russia's far east. cnn geo-located this video. instead, get you have good training ground near china and north korea. the frontlines of ukraine, more than 4,000 miles away ukraine is where south korean intelligence says these soldiers are going 1,500 now, as many as 12,000 could be deployed. south korean media says, some seen here, supposedly just days ago, getting they're russian military uniforms. with the one other moment, the audio muffled the language, sounds like korean. we can't independently verify this video provided to cnn by the ukrainian government they also shared this a uniform sizing questionnaire dated last week in both korean and russian for hats, headgear, uniforms, and shoes, why would kim jong un be sending troops to russia into ukraine? >> so if russia is successful, then you know, the north koreans could follow suit and it couldn't be a very dangerous city. tuition.
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>> as kim jong un and vladimir putin deepen their anti-u.s anti-west military partnership. a terrifying scenario says cranes president, we know about 10,000 soldiers of north korea that they are preparing to send fight against us and this is the first step to a world war. my delegation doesn't know at the united nations, no comment from north korea. >> thoughts groundless there'll type rumors aimed it smearing the image of the dprk they've been busy lately blowing up border roads with south korea who's had a pullback coming just days after. supposed south korea and drones dropped propaganda leaflets. on yom, north korea's capital. almost at kim's doorstep. >> he is regime is very even beyond normal levels of paranoia right now, this week, seoul summoned russia's ambassador condemning what could be north korea's largest ever overseas deployment.
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bigger than the 1973 yom kippur war and vietnam does this retired south korean lieutenant general. >> so this could be a real serious problem for the entire world a problem compounded by a massive influx of north korean weapons into russia reports have seventh in the shipments of shells, missiles, and anti-tank rockets since august 2023, not to mention north korean ballistic missiles, which ukraine says have killed civilians world's largest arms suppliers and they have held off during this ukraine war, sending lethal weapons to ukraine russia has in the past thank them for that, but now soul, while condemning north korea's troop deployments or russia as a security threat is saying that they hey, might send their own personnel and lethal weapons to ukraine. so erin, we could have a scenario where
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south korean weapons arean are used against russia and on the ground, north korean troops fighting on behalf of the russians, or at least operating in some capacity it's troublesome, it's, it's metastasizing all of that. >> i know that the talk that you had in thereof of a broadening war will ripley thank you so much for that such important reporting and thanks to all of you as always for being with us, but please stay with me because i'll be joined by my colleague jake tapper for a special edition of ac360. starting now welcome as we count down together to the main event, cnn's presidential town hall with vice president kamala harris begins very shortly, a