to turn the page and chart a new way and a joyful way forward ambitions. >> the aspirations, the dreams of the american people. and i will tell you as i travel, our country, there is, there is an overwhelming call for a fresh start. for a new generation of leadership that is optimistic and excited about what we can do together there is a yearning for a president of the united states you

people before partisanship. >> i never once asked somebody, are you a democrat? are you a republican instead? i always ask, how can i help you between donald trump and me and between the two very different, extremely different visions that he and i have for our nation and himself the other hours focused on the future and you together, we will build a future where we bring down the cost of living and that will be my focus every single day as president of the united states is down and wages are up prices are still too high. you know it

and i know it and unlike, donald trump, who had $400 million serve to him on a silver platter and still mine. it managed to file for bankruptcy six times he talks about being a good businessman. come on >> i grew up in a middle-class neighborhood with a working mother who kept a strict budget and did everything she could to make sure my sister and i had all that we needed i come from the middle-class and i will never forget where i come from i will is why my common sense plan will lower the prices you pay on everything from prescription drugs to groceries to housing on the other hand donald trump will raise costs on you and your families. >> in fact, independent

economists have analyzed, are plans and found that mine will cut your costs and strengthen our economy. his will increase inflation and lead to a recession by the middle of next year. these are independent economists. nobel laureate prize winning economist, who have reviewed our plans and are very clear. and his agenda is all laid out and project 2025 detailed and dangerous blueprint for what he will do if he is elected president and look, donald trump intends to impose a 20%. trump national sales tax on every day basic necessities which will cost the average family nearly $4,000 a year on the, other hand, i will take on price gouging corporate price gouging. i've done it before and i will do it again

tax cuts to billionaires. and the biggest corporations exactly like he did the last time he was president i will give middle-class tax cuts to 100 million americans, including $6,000 during the first year of a child's life that will also lift that will also lift america's children out of poverty the $35 cap on insulin for seniors. he will cut medicare and social security in fact, economists have reported he will bankrupt social security in just six years my plan is a plan to support our seniors so that they can grow older with

dignity and their families. you are not overwhelmed by the cost of home health care cost of housing, cut taxes for small businesses, where the small businesses in the house america's economy. all of you and we will lower health care costs because i believe healthcare should be a right and not just the privilege of those who can afford it intends to end the affordable care act. >> or like we like to call it, obamacare and he wants to take us back to when insurance companies have the power to

deny people with preexisting conditions well we are not going we are not going back we're not going back move forward and it is time to turn the page and it is a fight for freedom for freedom, like the fundamental freedom of a woman to make decisions about her own

body and not have government tell her what to do here, donald trump hand-selected three members of the united states supreme court with the intention that they would undo the protections of roe versus wade, and they did as he intact ken did. and now in america one in three women lives in a state with a trump abortion ban i don't need to tell the folks here, except for virginia in every state in the south including georgia there is a trump abortion ban many would no exceptions even for rape and incest. and let me tell you the idea that someone who survives a crime of a violation to their body would be told they don't have the

authority to make a decision about what happens to their body. next, that is immoral it is immoral it is immoral does not have to abandon their faith or deeply held beliefs to agree, the government should not be telling her what to do government with her pastor, her priest, her rabbi, hurry, mom, but not the government, not some folks up in a state capital telling her what to do with her own body and trump

still refuses to even acknowledge the pain and the suffering he has caused he insists that quote, everybody wanted for roe versus wade to be overturned of how out of touch the man is everybody wanted this women are being denied care during miscarriages some only being treated once they develop sepsis. they didn't want this couples just trying to grow their family have been cut off in the middle of ivf treatments. >> they don't want this these bans including a young mother of a six-year-old son

right here in georgia her family is here with us tonight and we speak her name. amber nicole look, i do believe donald trump to be an unserious man ever being president, again, are brutally serious. these are just some of the consequences of the trump abortion bans. and what he does and what he's likely to do. >> and i pledge to you when congress passes a bill to restore reproductive freedom nationwide as president of the united states, i will proudly sign it into law

witnessing a full-on assault on other hard hard-won freedoms and rights fundamental freedoms and rights. >> like georgia knows, attacks on the freedom to vote attacks on the freedom to be safe from gun violence the freedom to breathe clean air, and drink clean water, the freedom to love who you love openly and with pry generations of americans before us led the fight for freedom and noun the baton is in our hands it is in our hands and so i'd like to speak in particular to all the young

leaders that i see here this evening ai see, i see you i see you. and to you i say you have grabbed the baton i've seen what you do and i see how you are doing it because you are rightly impatient for change you who have only known the climate crisis are leading the charge to protect our planet and our future young leaders who grew up with active shooter drills are fighting to keep our schools safe you know now fewer rights than your mothers and grandmothers are standing up for reproductive freedom and i know it is because for you i say to our young leaders, this is not theoretical, this is not

political. this is your lived experience. and what i love about you is you are not waiting for other people to figure this out power and i know so many of you are voting for the first time and know that our future you all at so proud in this election and this is not 2016 or 2020. the stakes are even higher because over the last two years and in particularly the last eight years, donald trump has become

more confused more unstable and more angry you see it every day he has become increasingly unhinged but last time at least there were people around him who could control him but do notice in this election they're not with him this time. in fact, just this week, america heard from john kelly a retired four star marine general who was trump's white house chief of staff who said that as president, trump praised hitler take a moment to think about what that means that trump said, quote hitler did some good things

generals like hitler well, would be loyal to trump and not to america's constitution this is not 2016 and it's not 2020 including because just a few months ago, the united states supreme court told the former president that he has effectively immune, no matter what he does in the white house now, just imagine donald trump would no guardrails he will claim unchecked an extreme power if he is reelected. who has vowed that he will be a dictator on day one? who calls americans, who disagree with him. i'm going to quote the enemy from within you know what that harkens back to his calling americans the enemy

within who said that he would use the military to go after them and he who has called for the quote, termination of the constitution of the united states let us be very clear someone who suggests we should terminate the constitution of the united states of america should never again stand behind the seal of the president of the united

contrast in this election just imagine just imagine the oval office in three months pictured in your mind it is either so but there's a choice that everybody has. so let's imagine if for a moment it's either donald trump in there dueling stowing over his enemies list or me

all comes down to this we. are, here to gather because we know what is at stake we are here to gather because we love our country, we love our country and i do believe it is one of the highest warms and patriotism to fight them for the ideals of our country and to fight to realize the promise of america. that's why we are here and as a great congressman, john lewis reminded us an act so georgia now is our time to act and to together we will win

okay 12 days and early voting has already started georgia, we need you to vote early why is about or all go to vote vote.com to get all the information you might need because folks, the election is here it is here it is upon us. and the choice is truly in your hands. your vote is your voice, and your voice is your power. so georgia, i asked you are you ready to make your voices heard

energized vice president harris conclude what has been a star-studded rally in the suburbs of atlanta, including foreign prison obama, along with bruce springsteen, also spiked leaf hello parents, samuel l. >> jackson. the point of course, to get harris voters excited and out to the polls joining us now is having perine, former director of communications for trump's 2020 campaign, jamal simmons, former communications director of vice president harris. your time senior correspondent maggie haberman, author of confidence man, the making, donald trump and the breaking america. and journalist gretchen carlson maggie obviously italy bought a

stores onstage with her bruce springsteen know all the others. we have seen that obviously in campaigns before in the closing days, it didn't work for hillary clinton where do you see the race right now? 12 days i have no idea. >> i mean, honestly, i think anybody who says that they actually know what is happening is not telling the truth. >> there are people who are extrapolate nice to hear somebody actually considered whole hour one over and over again you'll be sitting here for 12 days saying that i can tell you look, there's there's a certain amount of early voting data right now. >> and you are hearing both parties read into it and offer versions of what they think it is. the issue isn't you can look certainly look at nevada and say the number of democrats who are turning out or not what democrats would like it to be so far, we don't know what that means in terms of as we get closer to election day, whether there is going to be a rush of voters on election day. the same with georgia. there is a

lot, there's more republicans than republicans usually have an early voting in 2020, donald trump told voters don't vote early, you should go on election day. so i don't know if we are reverting to pre-covid patterns or if every democrat is voting democratic second, every republican, i've no idea where this race this was obviously a big night for kamala harris. i should note that i am an avowed bruce springsteen fan. i've been very public about that so take without take that what you will, but she is trying to energize voters to go out. barack obama remains the most popular democratic politician out there for you're stand why she's doing this? will it be enough? it may not be. it comes down to the candidates themselves, but this is, this is where i see the way, well, i mean, you worked with her. >> what do you see? >> yeah. nobody else can make the case. but maggie was just saying, nobody else can make the case for a candidate except for that candidate. here's what we don't know about this election there will be democratic men who vote for donald trump. there will be republican women who vote for a kamala harris. we don't know how many there would be of either. and the person i think who steals the most voters from

the other, it's probably going to be the next president of the united states. it's going to take us a while to get to that number to find out exactly how many that we're want to play a clip from last night's debate. gretchen townhall fascist? >> yes, i do yes, i do and i and i also believe that the people who know him best on this subject should be trusted richard was particularly interesting about that is the first time she has actually said that xi is quoted mark milley on the campaign trail. >> she was talking about general kelly earlier in the day, the white house said that president biden thinks don't trump is a fascist why do you think she is now taking that extra step? >> because i think that internal polling is showing that somehow this line of attack is working on the inside for her. i mean, as you noticed when she came out on the stage with you last night, she focused at least nine minutes talking about this and really attacking trump. now you have to also take into consideration trump was not there. and so i think she was also trying to

prop him up to be in place because he decided not to show up. and that's the way in which she attacked him. but jamal would know more about the internal polling. it has to be happening. it's why she went and did the press it's conference earlier in the day to comment on the hitler comments that he had said somebody must be saying that that's working and resonating with the voters. >> do you think it's worth yeah, i'm hearing research that from research that they are believing this is actually working, the more this race is about donald trump, the better it is for kamala harris. people are in the mood for change. the question is there's a chain from joe biden or the change from donald trump and the kamala harris team needed to be changed from trump. that wakes her the new way forward and a change candidate or know where i want to play something that former president trump said at a rally in arizona criticizing undocumented work chris crossing over we're dumping ground were like we like it garbage can for the world that's what's happened. >> that's what's happened.

>> we're like a garbage can obviously, it's not just rising in other races. of course, that might be considered calling america a garbage can, a dumping ground calling people crossing over garbage where do you think the race stands i think maggie's right. >> i think there's no way to know at this point who is going to win. to her point regarding the nevada numbers, republicans are outpacing at a two-to-one right right now for multiple days in a row, again, early 12 days left, who knows what the final days look like, but we're also seeing more broadly nationally where women are outpacing men at voting at this point the early vote, if that maintains that way on election day, donald trump's going to have to do a massive get out the vote effort to get men to the polls because it's very clear they've done. a targeted effort to get young men to join the trump team and these are lower propensity voters. and we were talking about this. it's very hard to know if the polling is going to be accurate because there is such a play for these low propensity the voters, while everything is very close right now, and we're

not going to know, we probably won't know on election night either. i think this is going to be the hardest one to tell just because there's so many variables in this at this point, as somebody who's studied donald trump or written about him in your book how does he seem to you now compared to six months ago in this campaign? >> well six months ago was before the assassination attempt in butler, and it was before president biden dropped out of the race. and i think that those were two seminal moments for donald trump. he has you know, there's a lot of discussion, there's no question that he is more coherent and incoherent, more rambling he's older and so i do think that's a part of it in the speech. lengths are very, very long. they've been taught timed i don't personally think that there is some market huge difference in who he was eight years ago as a person as to who he is now, i think people actually had a pretty good sense of who he was and he said many of the same things then the language is darker now he seemed angrier and he seems a little more focused on talking openly about revenge than he

was earlier this year, more than a little earlier this year. >> and that i am struck by, especially as a closing message do you get the sense that people around him in the campaign are concerned about? >> that all are there are people in the campaign who would likely have been trying for a while to get the rally speeches down to something closer of what it was in 2016, which was under an hour now, i think on average 82 minutes and sometimes much longer. >> they're concerned about some of the rhetoric and whether it will turn people off. they have been this whole time. i mean, there are a lot of i shouldn't say a lot. there is a segment of voters who clearly have made up their minds about donald trump. and so what the campaign needs is for them not to say, you know what? i have to go vote for harris because i just can't sit on the sidelines. they need them to just not vote, but he's he's been talking like that for eight years. >> that's my point. i the point is for an undecided voter, you're not really under side is because of his rhetoric has not turned you off up until this point after eight years of it, then you're really not undecided. you're still wavering between potentially

trump and harris, but he has not offended you with his red. i don't completely agree on that. i think there are people i generally agree, but i do think there are people for whom i don't think we have long memories anymore. i do think i do think a lot of people have some fondness for his presidency, which was the last time that pre-covid, they felt great in their lives. so i don't actually i don't actually know that people necessarily remember every single thing that's protection to hear prisoner, a foreign prison, obama tonight, reminding people 1 million people died during covid, that there's, there's hundreds of thousands of people. there's there's tens of millions of people who had been affected by covid through the death of somebody that they loved we as a society have completely forgotten bad, no one wants to her about covid anymore. if you see somebody in a mask and airport, everyone's like what, whose that freak and yet it was just a few years ago. i thought it was interesting to hear obama reminding people of it and the death rates in canada versus what they were under

trump than the u.s. >> and that is the challenge, right? to keep people want to get refocused on it? you know, we elect presidents, not just to do tax policy and to make sure that health care works in the good times, we elect presence because something's going to happen something is going to happen while they're in office that we can't predict and we need somebody who's sitting in the chair who can figure out what the right thing to do based on advice and to make a call. and i think that's but the campaign is trying to remind people that this guy doesn't really have the judgment. and that's what makes the hitler conversation from general kelly so important. it makes the enemies from within. conversations so important because that'll trump in his own words is telling you that he doesn't have the judgment that agrees with what most of us believe. what does that hitler has kind of a bad guy. we don't want to we like him. >> by the way. >> i do occasionally where i'm asking an airport other to think i was calling somebody like that was actually me i guess that's because you were hiding that will give you a way of i think to. >> gretchen's point when it comes to the the closing

message here, right? what kamala is doing is using her closing message more as a base play because people will have heard trump's rhetoric. they know what to expect from a minute. they haven't been turned off by it to this point, the likely that there are persuadable voter who would be turned off now seems very, very low so what she's doing going with this january 6 democracy conversation is trying to gin up the democratic base because there are clearly issues. she's got problems in michigan. they have arab american leaders calling around saying don't vote for trump or for harris right now in michigan, i mean, there was a lot going on and so she's trying to gin up the bass. and then when she does these rallies and these bigger events, she's trying to get those more persuadable by urban. >> thanks very much. everybody. thank you. just a reminder. hillary clinton joins kaitlan collins tonight on the source. that's at 9:00 when insights is the first woman to be nominated for president by major us parties have to share with the second that's coming up. still ahead this hour. what former president obama said tonight about racism in america, the georgia rally as the harris to get reaches out to black voters. i'm talking with author and radio host charlamagne tha god, and podcast host hello, ryan, also senator fetterman joins me ahead

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charlamagne, tha god, his latest book is get honest or die lying. >> he's also founded the black effect podcast network, also with us angela rye, co-host of the podcast, native land pod. show me. >> i saw you did a great interview with security with vice president harris last week. >> thank you. >> great. one last. in that you talked about former president obama, and it was one of the first kind of it was the first day he was kinda out and you said he was out there last week waving his finger at black man. i'm wondering in the comments, it seemed like he did not do that in the comments. now, he doesn't seem to have done that again. do you think he went too far with that you were asking harris about at zero, maybe there was something not great about that. yeah. >> i didn't like it simply because, you know, black men were always the second largest voting bloc. you know, behind black women when it comes to democrats. and you know, when you look at 2016 and 2020, 50 2% of white women voted for donald trump in 2016, 55% are white women voted for donald trump in 2020. so i feel like, you know, the liz cheneys and

hillary clinton, they need to be out there with a finger on why women and telling them, hey, don't vote him against your interest again in 2024. so that's why i didn't necessarily care, but nobody criticizes them for not wagging their fingers now not only did nobody criticized them for not wagon a drink and nobody ever says hey, black men, thank you for always showing up for us, you know, so it's like i don't understand why they're trying to make black men escape golden 2024. what did you think after interviewing harris and what do you think she needs to do an extra base. >> i think she needs to continue saying that message that president obama was saying just now, like, you know, i think that you don't have to you don't have to promise the world that people are. people just want to know that they have individuals who are in office who actually care about them, who actually have empathy for them and who are trying to make their lives just a little, a little bit better at a time because like president obama said, they're not going to eliminate poverty, you know, they're not going to destroy systemic racism within presidential term. i think she just continued to go out and just be honest with the american people. i think it will resonate angela rye, where do you think has to be done the

next 12 days i think that honesty is imperative right now. i think there was a remarkable moment that you actually just showed from last night's town hall with you anderson. where you asked kamala harris if donald trump is a fascist and she said yes, yes, i do. there has been more heat from the media on her answer and less attention paid to what his former white house chief of staff fact a fascist when you look at one party rule, religious nationalism ethnic nationalism, that is what donald donald trump is striving for if we're honest, that is what the republican party writ large has been building toward for a long time. donald trump is harry reid once it is merely the republican party's frankenstein, i remember being on this network, anderson, i'm sure you don't you do quite a few interviews, but i was on with you. i went down with my interviews with you. >> you agree? >> i'm just got. one specific it has been a wow. but in 2016, i remember being on air with you and saying that donald trump is racist and there was

immediate blowback. how could you say he's racist? what facts do you have? there is a laundry list of facts to support the fact that this man traffics in racism and he is a fascist. and i think the most it's important thing that we all can do as american citizens, that the media can do is ensure that we are calling a thing, a thing. we know what it is, we see what it is. it is not just the responsibility of the candidates in the race to tell the truth, god forbid one of them ever even touches the truth. but it's really important that we lean into that responsibility, right? now you know, angel reese is good point. >> charlemagne, and i'm going to flip it a little bit i think that her saying that she thinks that she believes trump is a fascist got a lot of headlines because it was first time and she said it, she has been going on for days saying mark milley said he's a fascist. this person said this, you raised the question of authenticity in your interview with her and that wasn't authentic moment where she says, yeah, i do think he's a fascist and i think that's why it

for any for whatever you think about them, if you like, if you hate him, he is certainly who he he's shown us who he is every single day, which is a fascist and it's crazy because you still don't have news networks having that conversation like when somebody says, when somebody questions kamala harris is blackness or is he a dei hire, you all will have roundtable discussions about that, asking that question, how can we not having roundtable discussion is asking is donald trump a fascist actually not even asking, it's stating it. i mean, when you look at the things that he's talking about doing, jailing journalists, journalist, jailing his political opponents, turning the military on american citizens. the guy that he wanted to terminate the constitution overthrow the results of an election it's an how come that is not the topic of discussion on networks like cnn every day. >> but do you think that i mean, you were raising this with kamala harris about her own authenticity, about her own willingness to just say things that aren't crafted do you think she needs to do more of that trump is going to is that

he apparently a fairly trump's going on is going to take but thing with joe rogan, do you think she should should do that? >> i think she should keep calling donald trump a fascist and i think that americans need to keep looking at the rhetoric of donald trump because i don't know why we're even thinking about electing somebody who is talking about putting people in camps. i don't know why we're talking while we want to elect somebody who's talking about mass deportation. i don't know why we're having this conversation in which about somebody who wants to terminate the constitution, the overthrow, the results of an election. we fought to be a patriotic country whenever somebody like khalid cabin, it takes a knee and is contrary what he talks about. oh, that's still one patriotic would have got a guy can say he wants to terminate the constitution over but all the results of an election and nobody cares. >> even, even, even be bringing it up. now, you want it back to kamala and joe rogan anderson, who gives them i think you get dam who's elected president and president is a fascist. >> that's talking about putting people in camps. that's talking about, once again terminating the constitution susan to overthrow the results of an election is talking about you know, jailing his political opponents like

that rhetoric doesn't scare people. >> we talked about this every single, this, well, i don't have about this. every night. >> i don't think you have enough conversations about it. i feel like i heard more on this network about is kamala harris black than i do about donald trump being a fascist wrong? >> so honestly that's i'm sorry. >> no, no. i'm not i'm a huge fan of yours, but to say that we're sitting around discussing is kamala harris black like oh >> anderson for you to say to john, don't have those conversations. >> i had never asked somebody is well, i'm not saying you work. >> he said the network he only any anchor on this network has been going around saying, is she blacked, you know we have had look, i'm sure we have had nutty people or people who have strongly held beliefs who i may disagree with. >> somewhere on some panel have said something but yeah, i i will just leave that for for what i do on the show. i do

believe it's important to get people different viewpoints as long as they are willing to have a legitimate conversation. what i don't like our surrogate to come out and just spout talking point that they don't even believe and those are people i tried to eliminate from having ever on the air again, i think no network has honest conversation stations about donald trump. you haven't had nobody's had an honest conversation about donald trump since 2016. i saw last night, they were talking about, you know, the double standard that exists between donald trump and to vice president, but it's always a double standard with trump, whether it's hillary, whether it's, you know, against biden. now, what would commonly you talk about him being a threat to democracy, but we don't treat him like one i don't no, what you've been watching but like, i don't know if any trump supporters out there are people who like him, who are tuning in to me every night to try to get to be validated in their opinions. >> like, i don't know. i don't know. i disagree about validating what you mean, validating the trolley, what you're saying like that we're not that i guess you're saying i'm not discussing all the

things he is saying and doing and pointing it out. >> and talking to, you know, what john kelly i mean, this is what this has been discussed. know. let me just say there is nobody on the planet who does not has not heard and seen pretty much everything. donald trump has said, and knows somebody that knows one knows whether they whether they care about when the vice president said that to you last night and she said, i don't think enough people know i 100% believe enough people have not heard his rhetoric. what do you think angela? >> i was just about to say king, i'll tag me and i'm never doing yes. i know know i was just going to say, you know, i think what you're saying is fair that there have been roundtable discussions. >> where you raise this. i think the problem is it would be nice for you to cut the camera and say, i'm looking right here you're right now. yeah. kamala harris is a black woman. let's no right but i was going to say to your

colleagues credit jake right after the town hall yesterday, he said that you all have the opportunity to critique what kamala harris policy proposals were what her position where what are recommendations were, whether or not she adds that's a question. fair enough. because she's the only one that showed up for the townhall. it was supposed to be a debate. he said that i think that the point is we don't hear those things enough and it has been a threat. we cannot say oh, you know, kamala is going on with joe rogan or no, i'm sorry. donald trump is going on with joe rogan, but kamala's choose and clubs hey, debated, like it's like, what is he going to say when he goes don, here's but here's here's what i've been saying, which is it is a double-standard because kamala harris has policies and she talks about her policies. and you may think she doesn't talk in detail enough about her policies and plenty do. and i pushed her on that last night, i quiz try to look at the policies from different but she's got stated policies and you can look them up donald trump does not have policies i'm talking about.

>> and we say, i mean, this is nothing new. we talked about this all the time doesn't have argued, does not have his policies in 2016, his policy for iraq was taking iraq oil by using us soldiers to surround the oil fields and extract the oil somehow and bring it to america. i mean, literally an i was like that's not a thing that's been going on now that's what would you do what you need is what i would like to hear more pundants do because a lot of time we ask that, but we all right things like, well, let me think donald trump is a fascist we, i think we put up a western. i'm not a pundit. i'm not interested. i don't think my opinion is particularly interested, interesting for viewers out there. i'm interested in, i disagree. well, you can quibble with this, agree with that. but i believe in asking questions and probing people's arguments and trying to reveal people's arguments. what's true and what's not. and i like i'm not

on msnbc for a reason. i'm not on some other network for regional on cnn because i want to talk to republicans, want to talk to democrats, and i want to learn to them. i don't think i have the answers. i'm willing to change my mind. people can convince me of stuff all the time i i'm not i don't even know why i'm talking about myself. i don't doing here is important because i do think in this country where, you know what, i got so many i don't look at comments about myself, but i was looking up some comments about my grief podcasts and i came across this whole inundation from people who are harris supporters saying to me online today, like, how dare you, what a betrayal that you would ask her these questions. and i'm like job, you misunderstand what my job is. i'm not on msnbc or no disrespect what they do is they're very talented, but i don't watch it. i'm not interested in watching what these overpaid blow-dried anchors think and i'm including myself in that overpaid blow-dried, although i don't blow dry i am overpaid, but i

don't want i'm not interested in the anchors opinion. i'm interesting facts and lending the viewer which make up their own minds. so no, i'm sorry, this development is that you said that but i will just say in this moment some of what we're talking about tonight. anderson is not actually an opinion. all it is just the facts and you are one of the most trusted voices on television. and it is important in those moments where you know, those conversations devolve into nonsense take clearly on the other side of the aisle their conspiracy theory. they won't even say her name right? that has to be checked in the moment because that is what fascism looks like. that is how we start sliding down a very slippery slope and we cannot afford to be here. the election is 12 days away, and this should not be even what is on the ballot, but democracy's on lie. that is not a partisan issue. it is the truth. and i think that's what's important for cable news networks, in particular to be saying whether you're on fox, you're on cnn, or you're on msnbc for all of us, that is our responsibility and our

patriotic duty now, did i know you can literally call right. >> i'll speak to center au prince. i understand john fetterman, who's been very polite to wait as new polling signals, just how tight the race is, what guard that >> want answers. astute political analysis you have questions au biden said, the right, all stay away. why did trump pulled out of 60 minutes? i love pulling out oh, moos network of i got news for you saturday at nine on second thought. >> been the first ones in thank you serve pro proud supporter of our natn's first responders. >> i'm a lifelong republican i voted for trump twice, but i can't do it again. trump wants a national sales tax on imported goods it will make everything more expensive for

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pennsylvania, john fetterman senator fetterman, i appreciate your time. >> where does the race stand? in pennsylvania tonight from your view i mean, i'm not surprised by that poll. >> i wouldn't be surprised if the poll has harris up to or

trump down or vice versa. it's really going to be a coin toss. and i've been saying that same thing even if we go back to 2016 when trump is going to be on the ballot especially in pennsylvania, it's going to be a really, really close race. and that's where we are right now so i wish i had something more provocative but it in a sense, their people of all these hot takes here or there. but at the end of the day, we're arguing about a coin-toss in terms of obviously then the critical factor is getting voters out. >> do you have a sense of what the ground operation for democrats is like in your state? >> no, i absolutely it's the democrats have an amazing game ground right now and there's a lot of, a lot of real, real energy on the ground. but what's also true is that the

trump side, it has the same things as well and trump has done some events that have really penetrated, like the mcdonald's thing going to the steelers games and those kinds of things. so i mean, that's why it's just were locked up. but but i really would like to remind anybody anyone any of the reachable like if anyone is considering voting for trump. and here is what the risk right? right now that is, and i use the metaphor of a slot machine and if, you know, hey, we know we pull, we pull the arm on november 5 and you get a 777, then there's the jackpot and then that is if if he wins and then the house follows that and they carry the house and then the senate majority goes to the republicans. and now imagine the jackpot is that the supreme court that's at a six to three 36 to three and i think one of the first things that would happen if that happens, then the filibuster is

going to go. and i really do think that trump would but drop it and then all of the kinds of laws, whether it's about payback or whatever you want to remake american society. they would be able to pass a lot of these laws. and if they all end up at the supreme court, if the supreme court has demonstrated that they are going to follow his agenda, and he there gonna they're going to rule on his side and a lot of these issues. so if anyone is not alarmed by that, there's really not much else. i think they could happen. we're living in a perpetual kinds of october surprise and that's why it's going to come down to a gut check. it's a gut check for some people that haven't really finally decided at that it's like, you know, what do i want? do i want that kind of a risk or do we want like kind of like a president and a new way forward for like kamala harris or do you want that kind of a risk on that? and again, i'm not going to criticize people that vote for the other side. i

don't understand that, but it doesn't matter at this the point it's going to happen and it is going to be incredibly close. and it's i know it can't wish i could be more comforting or whatever, but i just think that's i have to play it straight well, we appreciate that, senator fetterman. >> i appreciate your time. thank you very much. 12 days to go now, an update on the recovery efforts in north carolina from hurricane helene. here's cnn's duerson yeah. >> like i said, they actually got flooded out the wednesday. >> it's been a month since hurricane helene hit. >> if it's dry and it's warm, he's probably gotten a choice, but to stay there right now. yeah and, here in the mountains of western north carolina, volunteers are still working to help their neighbors. >> recover the last few nights have been below freezing. >> they got hit pretty hard. >> john, counsel has been organizing relief and making home visits since the storm takes a certain type of person to carve out an existence here,

especially counsel is checking on people like ruthie baker, whose mobile home was parked by the riverbank the night of the floods. we moved when we saw campers, tiny homes, and cars floating away, it did tear up the bottom of the camper or so right now, it's largely fixed the insulation in the bottom so that we can try warm. what's going to happen, but we're scared staying warm is the challenge on everyone's minds immediate recovery efforts were focused on getting power and water back and clearing the roads did you find everything else? >> do you need? >> but last week the area got its first snow and temperatures below freezing these are incredible right now. what are you hearing from people at the resource ask when they come in, heat is a big one because it got cold really early this year. >> ashley gallaher turned her skate shop into this massive relief operation. we heard just while we were there to people come in looking for heater, it gets really cold. >> we've had frost the last couple of mornings how are you seeing this fit together with

federal relief efforts efforts? that's been a challenge. i'll say social media misinformation, lack of trust, that lack of trust has led some of the neediest to lean on local efforts while deeply skeptical of fema, we had over 300 people visit our site and they had nine people visit their site. >> nine. yeah and you built this barn. i'll be off this mourn ronald wise is 96-years-old and i'm guessing it didn't always look like this. know that we are did an not parker and has lived here for almost 80 years in house heated by wood stove the storm unleashed mudslides that destroyed his barn, would splitter and firewood. his been stockpiling for the last decade. you had enough wood to last until you over 100 now, what do you have? one way in or barred? >> this area was already squeezed by a housing crisis. many who were flooded can't find or afford other options and are living with mold or sleeping intense. >> what are you most concerned about? we have people in a

livable homes. the biggest stage this winter are honestly going to be surviving it for volunteers like sherry trace, the first frost of the year was a warning sign of the danger to her community as the storm slips out of the headlines, people need heat people need money, and people need our nation to pay attention and not forget about appalachia mina duerson, cnn, boone north carolina coming and just reminder hillary clinton joins kaitlan collins had night for the source, what insights as the first woman to be nominated for president by a major us parties have to share with the second that is coming up at 9:00 p.m. eastern and also new episode of my podcast. all there is which about grief and loss came out on wednesday. you can find it online right now. it cnn.com forward slash. all there is online or when your phone right now at the qr code, there's also a grief community group there you can chat with the others, help you feel less

alone in your grief. i hope it helps the news continues. the source with kaitlan collins starts second resource tonight with just 12 days to go, hillary clinton will join me live in moments on harris trump and this cliff-hanger of an election as trump just today, but still musing about locking