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star power, commonly, harris has a list supporters in the peach state are most anticipated name yet headlining for her tonight plus we're dumping ground were like we're like a garbage can for the world trash-talk. donald trump go somewhere even he admits he's not gone before. and the fight for congress were getting a clearer picture of where voters stand with the balance of power hanging in the balance and abortion on the ballot. florida voters will decide whether to enshrine abortion rights. we're going to speak live with democratic challenger to senator rick scott, debbie mucarsel-powell the east coast. a live look at new york city on this friday morning good morning, everyone. i'm kasie hunt. we made it to friday in this late in the election season. it's wonderful to have you with us. >> so if bruce springsteen is performing as a democratic

political rally, it must almost be election day l. jackson, tyler perry, spike lee, all headlining for kamala harris and metro atlanta on thursday, also appearing together with harris on the same stage for the first time, barack obama >> i got to tell you to this reporter. >> it feels a little familiar because i remember these scenes from 2016 when hillary rallied hillary clinton rallied in philadelphia with barak obama and for springsteen event was basically a victory rally that was held before all the votes were cast. and we all

know how it turned out and now once again, the same cultural clash, the split-screen is on pretty sharp display looking to shake things up what i cannot understand is why anybody would think that donald trump will shake things up in a way that is good for you this is not 2016 or 2020 the stakes are even higher because over the last two years and in particularly the last eight years, donald trump has become more confused more unstable and more angry so much has happened since this moment over eight years ago when donald trump descended that golden escalator in the speech he gave, then saying migrants were bringing drugs and crime. >> as he announced he was running for president donald trump's rhetoric. now is much

darker. and it puts this cultural divide on a display that is much sharper. here's what it sounds like now we're dumping ground were like we're like a garbage can for the world that's what's happened. that's what's happened would like a garbage can you know, it's the first time i've ever said that. and every time i come up and talk about what they've done to our country, i get angry and angrier. first time i've ever said garbage can, but you know what is a very accurate description? >> americans do now know what it was like to live under a trump presidency. that is the key difference from 2016. a familiar face is making the rounds, pointing that out i tried to sound the alarm about him back in 2016, but it was really an uphill climb because people could not literally imagine that he posed a danger or that his character was so

lacking when it came to the responsibility of being president and so i totally understand that, but now there's just too much evidence about what he wants to do so now in 2024, despite all of that, the race is tied and the echo is unmistakable, joining us now, mark preston, cnn, senior political analyst, annie linskey reporter for the wall street journal, kate bedingfield, cnn political commentator and former biden white house communications director and brad todd republican strategist. thank you all for being with us. mark preston, i want to start with you because as i was watching all of these clips come in yesterday of this rally, i could not help but think back to what happened in 2016. and the language that obama used in particular when he stood on that stage and he said i can't understand what i can't understand is why anyone would think that donald trump will shake things up in a way that is good for them, good for you.

and it just seemed to put on display to me this there's just a lot that trump has won. he has get is get 50% of the country is supporting him. and yet top democrats are still saying, i don't understand yeah, because i mean, look, there is there's this thing they call election or this anti-trumpism. >> i think brad todd knows because we used to talk about eight years ago where people were we're so flustered and didn't really understand why trump was telling voters, what his appeal was. they were, they were flabbergasted and dumbfounded. and i think that is due in part to this thought process from the rest of the country that this acela card or that we live in between washington and new york city is out of touch with the rest of america. don't understand the economic demands that people are facing. and i think when you hear barak obama's say that he really is just echoing what a lot of people in the party still believe, how, why, how

come donald trump is actually receiving all the support? >> brad todd use your name has been invoked japan. >> he's been didn't take it in vain at least though it's a little early for too much confidence well, my friend you know, i think the thing that's missing in this in this conversation from the harris campaign here at the end, is they're asking the vote voters to have amnesia. and that's a big act. they asked him to voters forget what they know about the harris-biden administration for the last four years, 70% of the country thinks we're on the wrong track. they know we've had 10 million people come across the border illegally you can't ask the voters to forget all that. and what she's not doing is saying what she would do differently in right now think that's the thing that's looming over the election more than anything that happened during the trump years kate bedingfield. >> yeah well, i would say i don't know that she's asking people have amnesia. >> i think what i mean, look, she's going today to houston to shine a light on what's

happened to women in this country since donald trump was president. i mean, she's trying to raise this specter of, what trump did when he was in office, which is to say effectively put justices on the supreme court who overturned roe v. wade and made life worse for women in this country so that's today. she's going to spend a lot of time trying to remind people that there are actually real consequences. there is kind of a haziness an amnesia to use brad's term around the four years that trump was in office, i think that's in part due to the fact that the pandemic was so challenging and traumatic for people all over the country. and so part of the thing she's trying to do now is remind people, hey, a donald trump presidency has consequences. we lived through it one of the ways in which your life is tangibly worse because donald trump was president, is because women's reproductive freedom, women's health care is no longer as easy to access. and so we're going to see her do that today and that's part of what the harris campaign is trying to do in the final push

here, remind people there are real stakes here. >> you know what though houston, because it's a big choice for her that she's can make. he knows no major american city has been negatively impacted as much by illegal immigration at houston, the people of texas understand that their hospitals are more crowded, their schools are costing more money for taxpayers locally. i think if i were her, i was going to texas tonight. i would go to texas and say we messed up on the border. i realized that now we're going to do who thinks a little differently next time, i think it's a huge, huge chance. i don't think she'll do it though any linskey, let me bring you in here. >> we do have a new poll out this morning from times sienna, they're looking at from what i can see registered sorry, likely voters in battleground states and it's a dead heat, 48 to 48%, which again underscores that this is an incredibly divided country. there are obviously some things that are different from 2016 abortion rights is certainly one of them absolutely central for democrats, but there are also some dynamics that are

pretty similar in that. and i think brad's we've touched on this that democrats are incumbent, right? and the question has been, can harris convince voters that she is not the unpopular incumbent, that she is different and that she is the one who represents change. it seems like here in the final weeks it may be that trump and maybe it's due to this depending on who you want to apply, the amnesia idea to. the people may have amnesia about what it was like under trump and they're trying to convince people to get rid of that. but he seems to be the candidate. when, when you directly asked his question, voters say she seems to represent change, but it's not actually how they're acting yeah. >> yeah. i know. i think that's one of the really interesting challenges for harris and her kind of closing arguments here. she she has not separated herself from joe biden. and she's made very, very subtle policy differences. she'll kind of point to herself and say, you know, i'm a woman, i'm different race and i'm a different person than joe biden, but she hasn't made a really clear break from him. and that is also related

to another weakness she does have according to polling and in the final weeks, which is there a large number of people in a particularly a big number of independent voters who say they don't know enough about her. so she's, she's said, look, i'm going to it's going to be a new page. it's going to be a different administration, but she hasn't really talked a lot about exactly how it would be different. and i think that's where you have some of that confusion and where people are reverting to this idea that look it looks wouldn't be a continuation of the biden-harris administration because look, harris is part of the biden-harris administration so, you know, i agree that there's moments here where she could try to make that separation and she's got time left. but so far, she just hasn't done it alright. still ahead here on cnn this morning, if we were just talking about polling in the presidential race, it's still neck and neck but control of congress also hangs in the balance. >> we're going to dive into the latest numbers plus you're fired. donald trump, making a

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you're going to have to pardon yourself, are going to have to fire jack smith which one will you do? oh, it's so easy it's so easy. it's so easy. i would fire him within two seconds all right. >> donald trump painting a picture of what special counsel jack smith's future might look like if he wins again in november, smith was appointed by the attorney general is overseeing the investigation into trump's alleged efforts to overturn the 2020 election results. if trump wins, he could use his presidential powers to end investigations into him. trump has of course, been at the center of a number of legal battles this year. you might remember claiming without evidence that the legal system has been used against him as a political weapon. he has also suggested he would use it's the justice system to go after his own political rivals trump actually went a step further than just saying he would fire smith in a separate interview. he was asked about the immigration system and instead took that opportunity to vilify

smith after kept many legal and you have to get to killers, murderers, and mentally deranged. you have to get about and we should throw jack smith have with them to mentally deranged people. jack smith should be considered mentally deranged and he should be thrown out of the country of the country. mark preston, i can you weigh in on this here? i mean, i don't i think everyone is widely assumed that if trump were to win reelection, he would immediately order that these investigations into him be stopped. that said he wanted stuff further. there doubt, you know, it's interesting anytime donald trump is, is being pushed into a corner or if he feels threatened, he immediately comes out and says that his opponent is stupid, that they're mentally deranged, that they're criminals, that they should be thrown in jail, or what have you i mean i mean, it's a simple pattern when we

talk about the selection, casey and i was just thinking about this as we were coming out of break and really just thinking about how this could play out. let's move beyond just kind of the 35,000 foot look at the election my god, if donald trump wins what could that mean for the country? let's think about it from a foundational standpoint. if he does when he has criminal cases that are against him and he's going to fire the people who are who are, who are leading those cases against him, like the foundation of our country now has become fractured because it shows that once you get in power here in the u.s. than you are pretty much able to do what you want. and yes, i know people don't like to use this word. and it is explosive but it does come down to the word of being a tyrant. and i think that is really concerning the, you know, the foundational fractures that we could see happen after this election and also let's remember jumping.

>> oh no, i just let's remember what jack smith is holding him accountable for, which is an effort to prevent the peaceful transfer of power when he lost the election in 2020 so, you know, i mean yes, there are foundational elements here. the idea that president would say, i'm not only going to fire, but i'm going to deport the justice official who is looking into my behavior, but also let's not forget the underlying issue. the jack smith is investigating here, which is, you know, trump being unwilling to peacefully hand over power when he lost i see election. so it is a frightening statement. i think, you know, there was a lot of there's a lot of pearl clutching around kamala harris using the word fascist to talk about donald trump. but i mean, this is, that's pretty textbook. fascist behavior. so that's a frightening thing. >> hold on. no. >> the first half that this latest guys that's just that's just jack smith's latest case here for previously having his other case thrown out and we

all know donald trump's not going to send jack smith to another country if somebody else would take him i think i coined this phrase back challenge brad is that we're not sure about that yesterday. >> we didn't. >> have you told me to you told me i mean that i'd be sitting at the capitol on january 6 and waiting for the president. >> my president, too call on the people that were breaking the windows and writing kill the media and chanting, hang mike pence you know, waiting for him to say, hey, stop, and he doesn for hours and there's nobody coming for you everyone have you had told me that that's what was going to happen. >> i would have told you like clearly you are not you were not saying at that moment, but that actually happened yeah, of course, we should have he absolutely should have told people to stop sooner than that, but, you know, the thing about donald trump with the american people is they know when to take him seriously and they know what to take him literally us coining that phrase in 2016, and that still

true and all the bad things about donald trump are factored into the stock price here and he's still so on the verge of winning this election. >> and that's because of voter see value in a lot of things. if they bring them, i really can. >> i just quickly i really disagree with the idea that it's after this man has been president for four years and we've seen some of the things that he's done that we should there should be some sort of magical floating understanding of when you take him seriously and when you done i mean, the man had power. he wielded it in a way that again, really nearly undermine one of the bedrock fundamental foundations of america it's been since inception, which is that we have free and fair elections and we peacefully hand over power i just i think that the idea that when he says something outrageous, we should all let's kind of stand back and go, oh, well, we know he doesn't really mean it. i think is ludicrous given what we've seen from the man. >> well, he says rages kate, but the voters think that the democrats will do things that are outrageous on policy, and that's the tension you have in

this election. >> yes. look, brad, i totally agree with you on where the tension points are in this election. i will just say i was willing to understand what you meant in 2016. remember that voter take him literally not seriously. and there were a hell of a lot of republicans who in the hallways of congress where i spent those four years, who would consistently say, oh, he doesn't really mean it. oh, it's not really going to happen i'm. sorry. but after january 6, that that hole that whole premise was completely shattered for me and mitch mcconnell when he voted against impeaching, when he voted to acquit donald trump on that second round, you know, he went down to the senate floor and he said, we have a criminal justice system in this country. and here's where we are with that anyway, coming up here on cnn this morning, the race for the president. of course, is all about battleground states. new york is not one of them. so why is donald trump planning a huge rally at madison square garden plus team trump trying to discredit the former general who's called the former president a fascist

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that waves that nasty bully trump's running mate, jd vance, is even alleging that kelly fabricated the entire story about trump expressing a desire to have generals like hitler's john kelly was fired by donald trump and he's off about it and he won't stop talking about it. >> now, look, here's the thing. every time that john kelly says something happened, you've got three or four people who were allegedly in the room when it happened saying he's making it up, even mike pence's chief of staff said that john kelly is making up a bunch of crap about donald j. trump you on this one because obviously john kelly is a man of great esteem he is someone who devoted his life to serving the country. >> he lost a son in afghanistan, obviously, vance there directly, basically calling kelly a liar. there's new politico reporting this morning with a number of other

trump officials coming out to say they backup what kelly had to say what, what do voters here when they hear all of this is it is it that they i simply believe that these reports are incorrect. >> they believe trump and vance when they say that john kelly is a liar, or is it that they're not concerned about what the warnings that they have? what is it? >> well, first, we all have gratitude of john kelly for his military service to the country and we need to state that up front but there's something going on here. there are plenty of other people who worked in the white house at that time who have come out on the record and said john kelly is not telling the truth about this, you know, and there's something about having a falling out with donald trump that tends to make a person literally lose it. i think sometimes and it's not, there's not the only indication. i wasn't there. i don't know what happened in that white house, but i can tell you people i do know have been willing to say that john kelly has not got his facts

straight on this, and john kelly does have an ax to grind with president trump. we should be clear on then president trump has an ax to grind now with john kelly, i think the american public knows enough about donald trump that this is not going to decide their vote on him. i think one thing about the way people think about trump is so good metaphor is to say, you can't make the ocean more salty and you can't make the ocean less salty. it's so vast in american public's opinion of donald trump is baked based on so many things that they've known for so long. none of these individual spats he has with people changes how they think of him is not the only person who served with donald trump in particularly to national security role, who's saying they can't support him and that he has done and said things that are appalling. and it's also not the first instance we've heard this. the things that kelly has said in this most recent interview, that's not the first time that we've heard that he's that he's been critical of veterans, people who've served

this country so i think you've got to look at the fact that you've got donald trump, who is probably one of the most just sort of bald-faced liars in modern american public life just absolutely has no compunction about lying and then you have people who have served for him in serious and important roles that are responsible for our national security. who say, i saw him up close, i saw the awful things he said. he's somebody who should not be be within 100 yards of the oval office ever you know, you've got to weigh those two things and i think for people who are trying to decide, make a decision in this election, i do think it carries weight to say, you know, nobody who served with donald trump in these important roles thinks that he should go back to the white house and that i think gives voters some pause i agree be that one given story in this media environment is probably not enough to puncture, but i do think that the full tapestry of these stories and the people who are saying, i can't support him because i saw him up close in this role. i do

think that that has an impact with voters we know that there's a new poll out just yesterday. danny, go ahead. any well, that i was just going to say i mean, i think i think kate has a good point here partially because look, the fact that that jd vance and trump are taking the time out of the very end of the campaign to deny these reports i mean, it's very rare as a journalist, quite frankly, that somebody goes on the record with their name and lies. >> i mean, i you know, that hasn't been an experience that i've had in my career. so i think given john kelly is i think his credibility is fairly clear, but they're denying it and i think the reason for this denial is that they are seeing something that is impactful, that this does get voters attention. it does surprise me. i mean, i would think at the end of the campaign the decision really is about economics. and when we look back at why this campaign goes the way it does, it very well may be because of economics and

inflation and those have been the larger issue excuse have voters that i talked to talk about. but the end here has been about character and paris is seeing something in her data that shows that it's a useful closing argument and trump is making a show out of denying it. so he's clearly has some concerns about it as well. >> if you look at polling, tear harris leads on temperament, right? she leads on that. you can see the cnbc poll yesterday was it was a great example of it. she leads on a lot of things, frankly. but what she doesn't lead on is controlling the borders, foreign policy, and the economy. and that's what the election is being contested on. donald trump, a lot of people have an issue with what he the way he talks things, he says the way he acts. but they believe that he they were better off when he was president and they've been when harris and biden have been in office and that's the crux of this election. >> mark preston you want the last word here look, i think when brad said earlier, in an earlier segment that the voters

have, you look at this stock and they baked it into the donald trump stock price and let's not forget all these little things that we hearing in this micro-targeting. >> we're seeing at the end of portions the sanctity of the border. what have you yes it's being targeted, but remember, it's being micro targeted at a very small group of people right now, even though it seems very big and they're going to texas there really reaching out to their very small group of voters in the blue wall states to michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania, and of course down in the sunbelt states of georgia, arizona, and nevada all right. >> still coming up here after the break, control of congress also at stake on election day, new polling on where that stands plus trump and harris pointing their final pitch to voters with an emphasis on the venue

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registered voters would prefer republicans control congress while 44% said democrats and brad todd, this number really stood out to you. we were trading notes about it. why well, it's wider than the presidential, the same cnbc poll has trump leading harris 48 to 40 46. >> and so if the republicans republican vote is less concentrated than the democrats democrat votes very clustered in urban areas and on the coast. and so therefore, democrats could win the national popular vote for house, or if you'd add up all the congressional house members votes, democrats could win that by a couple of points and republicans still control congress. and so if republicans end up with a plus for advantage and the vote for congress, and i'm not saying that's where this goes. you've got some undecided people that have to vote there. and of course it's a generic vote, doesn't always translate to a district, but a 48, 44 republican advantage would give mike johnson a lot of comfort going into election night to hold the house kate what did you make of this survey?

>> well, i think i think it's interesting that you have this gap. i mean, i think there was when biden was at the top of the ticket and there were really concerns about where his numbers were going. there were a lot of congressional democrats who are talking about running explicitly as a check on trump. obviously as harris dresses made this race much more competitive, i think that has fallen by the wayside and a lot of districts, although not not entirely summit and some more republican districts, moderate republican districts, you're still hearing that messaging so i think the other thing to think about is you know, split ticket voting is largely a thing of the past, not entirely, but largely a thing for the past. and so i think particularly for the house where the presidential race goes, will probably determine where control of the house goes. it's just there aren't all that many people in this country who are going to go especially in such a nationalized election like this, where people are going to go pull the lever for donald trump and then the democrat for congress. so it will be, it will be interesting to see think the house is probably going to be tied the fate of the house is going to be tied

very closely to the presidential, the senate obviously slightly different. obviously it's a tough map for democrats in the senate, but we're seeing encouraging signs in places like texas where kamala harris is going to be tonight. so we'll see you, marc, i was going to say, i mean sherrod brown is certainly counting on running ahead of national democrats. >> no doubt. you see any has not really connected himself to a kamala harris, hasn't been, you know somebody who's been out there vocally. i mean, he says he supports her and what have you, but he has been somebody who's trying to run he's own race, but you know, kasie, you know, the geek in me and the geeking, you looks beyond the election and says, hey, what's going to happen after election day and in what's going to happen to the house of representatives. and i will say this regardless of who wins and who controls the house and who controls the senate, i would say that the democratic party shockingly for me to say this are even our will be more operationally ready after the

election because they will not have the infighting that we have seen over the past couple of years in the house republican conference. and we're going to see continue democrats are more united in, in the us well, senate, same thing, we're going to see mitch mcconnell's step down at the end of this year. he's been there a long time. you're going to see this fight over control within the united states and it within the republican conference. so again, let's go six months down the road and have this discussion. even if republicans, when it's going to be really difficult for them think, that's i might take issue a little bit with that mark. i think mitch mcconnell has been a very divisive leader in the u.s. senate for republicans he's not popular with republicans nationally, democrats are using him as a foil and their attack ads everywhere and he's got a chunk of senators in the republican conference in the senate who not like the way he's led the senate lately. i think the next republican leader in the senate actually will happen a lot more support. i think you'll see a senate conference that's united on the republican side. the house is a different story. you know, we don't hurt very well as republicans and in say

we heard like cats as an insult to cats and so i think you're talking about how people used to talk about democrats well, there's a lot of truth to that. >> kasie, there's in many ways it's the democrat party is more ideologically homogenous than the republican party is today. and that's why we fight so much. maybe we got some other contrary and problems we need to work out. i'm not sure but there she might have a different version of this story but i do take your point. >> alright, still ahead here on cnn this morning, former president trump very popular in his home state of florida. will that popularity helped keep the states open senate seat red? >> most likely, but we're going to talk to the democrat who is hoping to flip it. >> plus using messages from both candidates, it's not just what they say. it's where they said saying publicly what people are saying things out i have enough

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political landscape democrats this month, have poured money into senate races in texas and florida. there are only two opportunity continues to pick up seats in the upper chamber in florida, incumbent republican senator rick scott, hoping that donald trump's popularity in the sunshine state will help push him over the edge to reelection if he doesn't win we don't get a win, a majority in the house and the majority of the senate than all the trumps hackers are most of them go away. >> he's going to help all of us when he'll help us get the senate help us keep the house. and put us in a position for greater future all right.

>> joining us now, florida senate candidate, former congresswoman debbie mucarsel-powell congresswoman. thank you so much for being with us this morning. >> good morning let me start with the money because while there has been some late here in the game, it's not nearly what it was in the past in florida, i mean, democrats spent 60 million plus dollars in previous senate races and they have sent left s considerably less to your race. >> this time, is that a sign that they've given up on on your seat >> actually. kasie, just yesterday i saw yet another poll that has me and rick scott tied. i mean, we are tied and everywhere i've been everywhere i've traveled to i have republicans in pendants, democrats. they're coming to our events. they're voting for me in this election. rick scott is one of the most vulnerable republicans running for reelection. he has not been able to cross a 46, 47% mark

and any of the polls he's below 50%. we still have a group of undecideds and we know that in the past year, independence i've been voting for us in all the special elections in the primary elections, we were able to defeat the moms for liberty candidates here for school schoolboard. and they were outspending us two to three against them on are candidates for schoolboard. so i'm telling you, kasie, i think there's a lot that a lot of people are missing how about florida? this is not the same election that it was in 2020 or 2016 and we are seeing larger numbers of turnout. i'm going to be visiting students all over florida tallahassee, gainesville, orlando, and a lot of young voters, first-time voters are coming out. so i'm, i'm optimistic about this race all right. >> fair enough. i take i take your point on the polling. i can i ask you though about kamala harris is pitch in the final weeks here because she really has shifted and is

making appeals to moderate republicans, two independents campaigning with liz cheney. she's calling donald trump a fascist. >> is that the kind of messaging that you feel like is helping you when in the final days or is your message a little bit different than that? well our message here in florida is about florida and have uplifting up every single family that has been struggling under extreme policies that started under rick scott, we have a property insurance crisis we know that we're paying four times the national average. we just were devastated by two different hurricanes, hurricane milton, hurricane helene people are left with absolutely nothing. rick scott voted against funding fema. >> and a lot of families here have been struggling for too long, or teachers are the lowest pay teachers when you look at the national average for the rest of the country we have students that have been attacked because of who they love and who they are and now of course we are living under

one of the most extreme bans on abortion. a six week ban that rick scott supports. and let me just say this. kasie, he wants to go back to the senate, become senate majority leader. and i want everyone to just think of a world where you miss mitch mcconnell as senate majority leader, he would be catastrophic not only for we're florida, but for america. he wants to eliminate medicare and social security and raise taxes on families. so we just can't allow that to happen congresswoman, of course, one of the other things in florida is the ballot measure that would protect abortion rights. >> i want to play a little bit of an ad that's airing around that initiative. and then we'll talk about her side. watch i remember the doctor handing me baby boy that was blue and i just held him because he was so cold

being forced to carry the baby from 23 weeks aufully, to 37 weeks in knowing my son was going to die this ban is torture >> she said it's it's really difficult to watch where do you think florida voters are right now on this, we have seen voters across the rest of the country often when they're given this choice about whether to enshrine or in trying to abortion protections, or at least prevent restrictions. they've said that they want to protect abortion rights. i'm curious where you think people are in florida. and if you think people who are going to vote for that are also going to vote for democratic candidates because that may not always be the case. >> so, yes, that's very emotional ad and kasie, i just

heard a similar story yesterday a woman who was carrying her pregnancy, she already had a six-year-old daughter. she was 17 months pregnant, and the doctors told her the baby wasn't living anymore inside her for her body and they wouldn't terminate her pregnancy. and so she was forced to travel, leave her six-year-old daughter here in florida and had to go to new york to get that critical health care. it's really devastating. i'm a mom. >> i have two daughters, the youngest of four sisters. >> this is such a central issue for us for health care, for safety, for our livelihood and most of the people that i talked to, whether republicans, democrats, or independents really regardless of political affiliation, they are supporting amendment four. they are protecting a woman's right to choose. it will pass, it will cross a 60% threshold. and just last week, i was at an event where three different women came on up to me. there were republicans, one of them said, i'm very conservative. i've never voted for a democrat. i'm voting for you

and i asked her what was her reason to do that and she said it was abortion. they've crossed the line. florida. we're not extreme like that. we've just been hijacked by the former president coming here in 2018 and then in this governor who has just crossed the line in every single policy, we are not extremists floridians understand that we don't like government telling us what to do this as government interference and we will pass amendment four. and i can tell you they need 60%. i need 50 plus one. i need people with me. we can win this race. you want? the senate majority. i will deliver that senate majority and that's exactly what we're going to do in about 11 days all right. >> congresswoman debbie mucarsel-powell, of course, running against rick scott in florida thank you so much for being with us. i really appreciate it. >> thank you. kasie. >> alright. for harris and trump campaigns, looking ahead to their closing messages, the last chance of course, to win over on decided voters. and of course no detail is left to chance. it's not what they say. it's where they say it.

the vice president is going to speak tuesday at the ellipse. it's the exact site where trump told his supporters to fight just ahead of the january 6 riot and trump will realize a longtime dream this weekend when he headlines a rally at madison square garden, new york, not considered to be in play for the former president for obvious reasons. it is, of course, his hometown or a couple of house races nearby that might be relevant, but mark preston symbolism of bounds here in the final two weeks i normally would say, why is he not in a battleground state, but also our politics is so national now absolutely look at a campaign is about moments as both good moments. is about bad moments. and certainly this campaign i think we can all agree it's probably going to be decided on a good moment or a bad moment by one of the candidates. how do you make those moments? you tried to hold these big speeches. you tried to do them at places that are symbolic. we're seeing

donald trump doing new york. we're seeing the vice president doing it here on the ellipse it's all about moments i actually, brad, sorry, kate. >> yeah. go ahead. no, no. i just i think the contrast here actually could not be more perfect because madison square garden is in so many ways about trump's ego. week. we've heard reporting on this. we can see grew up in new york, wants to fill the garden. this is like all about his ego during that he can, that he can fill that arena. and then you've got kamala harris delivering on the on the ellipse top, presumably talking about, of course, donald trump and what he did on january 6, i imagine. but also presumably talking about her vision for the country and explaining to voters that she views public office is about serving them. in some ways, i think the trump campaign is kind of done. the harris campaign a favor here by doing their final big set piece in a place that really just underscores how much this entire campaign is about donald trump. for donald trump?

>> oh, really, i mean, you're going to have donald trump, as kate mentioned, talking about donald trump, but also kamala harris, vice president harris will clearly be talking about donald trump as well in her closing message in talking to the harris campaign about this, why democracy at the very end, why is this a good closing out? two for you? i mean, what they are saying is that it is the top motivating issue for their persuadable voters and for undecided voters. and this is such a small sliver. so, you know, their feed on the biggest stage, but talking to the smallest number of people brad you got ten seconds. >> well, if donald trump can cut his margin of defeat and some of those new york house ceases by three or four points. it might mean republicans control congress all right, fair enough, guys. >> thanks very much for joining us on this friday. thanks to all of you for joining us as well. i'm kasie hunt. don't go anywhere. cnn new central starts right now