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changed his tune on it for years. donald trump denigrated early voting is being suspect, even fraudulent now, early voting is under way. >> get everyone you know, and vote. >> why do you think the republicans have changed their messaging on early vote? >> or they know they've gotten trounced on this, right republicans are playing catch-up, whether or not they'll fully ever equal democrats on the early voting front, unknown analysts say it's also almost impossible to project overall from early voting who is going to win this election? >> one key reason why it's difficult to tell from that the fact that the majority of states do not report to us the party affiliations of those who vote early. wolf. >> brian todd reporting for us, brian, thanks very very much into our viewers, thanks very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in the situation room. erin burnett outfront starts right now
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vulgar campaign finale at trump's mes mega rally, paris, t letting it go to tonight is we have new reporting that the trump picked comedian who made the vulgar comments had something far worse. >> plan and breaking news this hour, federal investigation into who set fire to those ballot drop boxes in two different states. we know now hundreds of ballots have been destroyed it's the pennsylvania's secretary of state worried he's next we're going to ask him with when he thinks we'll know who wins pennsylvania. plus famed astrophysicist neil degrasse, tyson taking on elon musk's musings about aliens on earth let's go outfront burnett outfront tonight on this monday, trump reeling the former president's campaign, making a rare cleanup attempt tonight. huge deal from a campaign and it candidate. but never admits to mistakes trump's big closing argument at madison square garden last night featuring crass and vile comments about puerto rico and latinos in general comments that could cost trump the
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election if he pays the price and pennsylvania where latino voters could decide the race kamala harris tonight, highlighting trump's crass and vile rally square garden really highlighted the point that i've been making throughout and actually fixated on his grievances on himself and on dividing our country. what he did last night, if not i just debris. it is just more of the same and maybe more vivid than usual donald trump's full time trying to have americans mike, their finger at gulen fans, fuel of hate and division. and that's why people are exhausted with him she was referring in part to this this, but there's literally a floating island of garbage in the middle of the ocean right now. yeah i think it's called
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puerto rico now, i'm going to stop there and just play that part. >> i do want to note that the man you saw there, his name is tony hinchcliffe made even more vile and sexually explicit remarks about latinos. and we thought long and hard about whether to play them, decided not to that they are to vulgar and graphic for me to play here. but our danny freeman spoke with latino voters in philadelphia about those comments. and the voters he spoke to are angry, which is important for trump's campaign because the latest polling in pennsylvania shows trump up by one point. obviously that's well within the margin of error. and according to pew research, there are more than 600,000 latinos eligible to vote in the state of pennsylvania. that's a massive amount, just objectives, but relatively this makes the point the margin of victory in pennsylvania in the 2020 presidential race was less than 100,000 votes. so when you look at 600, you realize how big that could be, even if just some of them are moved by what happened so as a result of the
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trump campaign tried a little bit of cleanup. a campaign spokesperson claiming this joke does not reflect the views of president trump or the campaign. of course, this was a comedian appearing by invitation of trump and the campaign at a trump rally. and trump himself has remained silent no apology, no separating, nothing, even though the crass comments bring to mind something trump himself, did i mean, remember when hurricane maria slammed into the island of puerto rico and trump famously through those paper towels into a crowd before falsely denying the storm's official death toll. of course, thousands of people died. so trump's silence today, after the comedian made that joe calling puerto rico and a floating pile of garbage may speak volumes. but even as he is silent, trump's running mate jd vance, is taking it head-on i would see the joke. >> i you know, maybe maybe it's a stupid racist joke as you said, maybe it's not. >> i haven't seen it. i'm not
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going to comment on the specifics of the joke, but i think that we have to stop getting so offended at every little thing in the united states and america, i'm just i'm so over right all right. >> the fact about this though, one thing that's just undeniable is this. it was totally avoidable by team trump. according to the bulwark, marc caputo, even though staffers say that the puerto rico joke about garbage was adlibbed into the bit so they say, well, they didn't know about it because it was adlibbed prior to it. they had had a chance to look at a script and they did know that totally disgusting jokes were in the planned script from the commedia. i mean, here's one example. campaign insider tells caputo that the comedian actually had a joke calling harris a c-word i trump staffers saw that they said no, oh, bridge too far as hinchcliffe to cut that remark when they saw the draft, you'd think when someone has joke calling someone, the c word in there, they're bit that'd be a red flag. but it wasn't and marc caputo is going to be with
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me in a moment with more reporting, because here's the thing. even as those staffers tonight insisting caputo that they did not spot the other horrific comments and hinchcliffe prepared remarks. many more comments were set at that rally about harris and others, like these her and her pimp handlers will destroy our country. >> she is the devil, whoever screamed that out she is the anti-christ to use some sick that hillary clinton, huh? what does sick son of a the whole party, a bunch of degenerates those were other speakers, all invited, all of whom scripts had gone through an approval process. >> danny freeman is outfront in philadelphia danny i know you've had a chance today to be just just talking to voters in the immediate aftermath of that to get their reaction. what are they telling you to a lot of puerto rican see in philadelphia today and they told me that they're mad,
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they're frustrated many of them told me that they took these remarks personally and listen, erin we're in a democratic city speaking with a normally democratic coalition. >> so it's not that surprising. we'd find some outrage, but i was surprised at the level of outrage that we really did see because we spoke to not only democrats, we also spoke to an undecided puerto rican voter, also, a puerto rican voter who already voted for trump, and they told me they're frustration with these remarks it was palpable as well campaign wasted little time monday morning. >> they did us a favor they woke up, they woke up. >> they woke us up there. what goes up? >> assembling a host of puerto rican surrogates in philadelphia. >> i hope that people are angry and they turn that anger into interval pennsylvania has more than 480,000 residents of puerto rican descent, according to 2022 data from the u.s. >> census bureau that's the most out of any of the battleground states. and the philadelphia metro area is among the top regions with
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puerto ricans outside of new york and florida, philadelphia city council member and harris supporter gets the lazada knew she had to speak up after last night. >> i think that what folks don't realize is that puerto rico and puerto rican get angry we turn to action mode, right around phillies largely puerto rican fair hill neighborhood voters. >> we spoke with had heard the comments in what he's talking about. >> puerto rico is a beautiful island. 32-year-old christian hernandez is voting for the first time this year for vice president harris. the trump rally remarks only solidified his vote. you think puerto ricans heard those words from last night? >> yeah, for sure. >> i'll are a-lago oh, body was there matt? am disappointed. >> marcos pagan didn't like the comments at all when you hear stuff like puerto rico as a floating island of garbage
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they'll be honest. >> i feel disrespected >> we go through now, we've been do a lot, but marcus still is not sure who he's voting for. when you hear comments like that, does that change your perspective about who you might vote for no. that's not an to see it to believe that everybody was actually founded words for fernando santiago already cast his vote for former president donald trump. but now he and his whole family are mad about last night's remarks what did you think about him calling puerto rico floating island of trash that's my stuff because that's my island you know, i don't want to i don't want people talking like that you know, this is now right? not going to go far because of this lack of respect towards
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we rejected the trump campaign specifically in pennsylvania to speak with someone about what happened last night. they just pointed us to the statement that they released last night saying, again, this joke does not reflect the views of president trump or the campaign. i will note though tomorrow, former president trump it's expected to be in allentown, pennsylvania, another city here with an enormous latino and especially enormous puerto rican population we'll see if he addresses it that that is going to be fascinating. so important. thank you very much, danny, actually speaking to those voters, everyone's here with me now, van, let me start with you. because i know you're very close to the harris ground operation in philly, so you really know what's going on there on the ground. i know that there have been some challenges for her there, but does this change the game? that joke about the floating pile of garbage made by that comedian last night. does that change the game at this late hour it energizes a certain kind of voter. >> look, if you're a trump voter, you've forgiven him for so much stuff that you, it's almost an automatic thing, but
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you have though are people who are for kamala harris, but they have questions isn't there lukewarm? this is, this is a couch propulsion device, like an a cartoon, just pushing people off the couch to be like, hey, hold on a second. we're not going to just be insulted. he insulted the city of detroit. that also is a couch propulsion device. so him going around being an insult comic, hiring insult comics and acting this way is it's turning people one way or the other, but it's motivating people who already don't like him and who now feel that it's a matter of personal pride to stand up to him couch propulsion device, a new a new term, right? >> marc caputo, you were first to report the comedian there wanted to call kamala harris, the c-word and that had actually been in the script, the campaign requested that came out, so it did then they're saying that this specific line was adlibbed in, but then there were others that the one i referred to them incredible graphic, incredibly graphic sexual comments about
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hispanics coming into the united states. what are your sources telling you about how the jokes that did make it through got through where they tried to say every one of them was adlibbed well, we're able to figure out just kind of parsing what happened or kind of calculating out what happened is the puerto rico joke, the trash island joke was adlibbed allegedly the black person carving watermelons for halloween was adlibbed. >> these are words i never thought i would say hey, on cable news and there's a divide over whether they knew about the crude joke that compared sexual completion. let's say, with latino migration of the united states, i guess that's very difficult way to describe it, but i think that's accurate though we all know what you're talking about. yep right. >> so is the divide about whether they knew about that or not, but the other jokes, palestinians throwing rocks,
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jews being potentially greedy or liking paper a reference to haitians, the false story of haitians eating cats and dogs in ohio, a joke about the trump assassination attempt all of those things from what i was told a did make it through the broader story here is this is that the trump campaign wants to be norm busting abnormal. it wants to do new and eddie things. and so they invited a roast master comic edge lord to give a speech at a presidential campaign in the waning days of the campaign, in the waning days of the race and the guy did his comic edge lord routine. and this is what it looks like some things are appropriate for podcasts, which he has kill tony is a very popular podcast. and these very funny if you liked that sort of humor. but it didn't mix with a presidential campaign event. and that's what you're seeing currently? >> no. no. and there is a tone that people expect even in the context of the trump campaign.
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and the way that this has been the consistent behavior. i mean, lulu, as i said, trump has so far not distanced himself from this, even though the campaign has tried to jd vance also doe did bring it up today and let me just play what he said it's telling that kamala harris is closing message is essentially that all of donald trump's voters are nazis and you should get really off about a comedian telling a joke. >> maybe it's a stupid racist joke, as you said, maybe it's not. i haven't seen it. i'm not going to comment on this civics of the joke, but i think that we have to stop getting so offended at every little thing in the united states of america. i'm just i'm so over it interview vance recently. >> so what he just did there, the same kamala harris is saying, every one of you is a nazi. so in that context, one bad joke even if it's racist let's put it in context. that's essentially what he's saying. there you interviewed him and understand how he
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speaks and how his mind works. what do you make of this response in the speech well, i mean, senator vance can run, but he can't hide from that. >> it's classic right? i didn't hear it maybe it's true, maybe it's not true. but what about this other thing and it's just the classic rhetorical circular argument that doesn't address the issue at hand, which was incredibly offensive language. i mean, there's reporting from my colleagues at the new york times let's? say that, you know, the trump campaign is extremely worried about this one joke, possibly you can excuse to jokes, you can say, all right, maybe it was a bad call, but there were a series of these. and i don't think they should be lauded for actually striking out the c-word and having the city getting vice president and the first potential female president of this country, being called that name. so i
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just i don't think that there's anything that they can say at this point, but i would if indeed former president trump wants to make amends to the puerto rican community perhaps he might say burden i'm sorry. so a good start. mckell the trump campaign made a comment. trump has said nothing but you just heard danny freeman talking about how trump's going to be an allen town which is home to a huge number of voters, puerto rican in puerto rican descent and hispanic voters. and that, that's going to be a moment tomorrow where he has a choice so what do you think? do you think that he should and do you think that he will somehow distance himself from these comments? i hesitate to use the word apologize. >> yeah. >> i think what mark said was really interesting, right? like this was an interesting call to even have a comic at an event like this i think admitted, i think it was an unforced error whether or not it's survives this 24 hour news cycle. i i really don't see it with due
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respect. i think there'll be much effort to make this be the only thing that anybody talks about for the next six days. but the reality is, is it is serving right now to stop people from talking about the disastrous policies. and so in that respect, it was a gift to the harris campaign, which we didn't really i think think the trump campaign wanted to give them at that time so van i mean to the point, makayla is making fascist hitler. >> john kelly was 48 hours of intense intensity it, for some people then. and you still have washington post situation going on with the denial of endorsing kamala harris. now you have this so is this just going to be a thing and then pass or could it have more staying power you know, it will it will pass for us but if you're on the ground and you're in philadelphia and you're trying to get turnout unless jump comes out tomorrow and you'll say, oh, beautiful puerto rico, i love puerto rico about what he'll do something. >> he's not going to paul i'll just we'll deal do something and that may tamper down a
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little bit. but what you're doing is you're giving people who got tired legs and sore knuckles a reason to go out there. again tomorrow morning and you give them something else to say to their own community. and so it is a gift and even though it passes with us, stuff lasts longer on the grassroots level than it does on here. >> lulu, it also comes as the pro-trump super pac launched by elon musk and posted, then deleted. so i want to say posted then deleted. so everyone understands that they knew that this was not something that they should continue. here is the video kamala harris is a c-word. you heard that, right? a big old c-word in fact, all of the other c-words think she's he's the biggest c-word of the mall. that's right. she's a text hiking regulation, loving gun grabbing communist pulled that so they they they were aware i suppose that at
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some level became aware after that was cut and put together and all the time and money was put into it, that that they were going to that was too far this is the question that i have about all those i get the edge lord stuff. i understand the tactics of wanting to appeal to the basest level of the male population and try to gin them up. but you know, i do wonder especially how this plays for women which they have a lot of trouble with. if you are a mother or you are a daughter or you are a sister do you think that this is something that you want to see if you're trying to tell your kid, hey, you got to be nice to people. you got to respect people, please respect your teacher. do you think that this is something that really is the kind of language that everyone wants to embrace. i just find the political strategy slightly baffling frankly, and it is the product of elon musk. i mean, if you look at his, x feed, the stuff that he posts, this is from his mind. this is the kind of thing that he enjoys. now, is this going to actually gin
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up the vote and get trump elected? we'll wait and see mykolaiv. they've given up on a certain group of women who would find this offensive i don't think it's about giving up. >> i think that there's just a reality which is that no matter what, this is a very, very close election and people have made the decision and we see this continuously in the polls that whatever kind of thing is being instead, whatever negative thing has been said, either that anybody that disagrees is a fascist, nazi or some questionable language that i won't say myself. you know, that's just not what people are making their decision on. people are making their decision on their policies. and if i was wrong about that, they wouldn't be second 48. >> things are not the same so one thing, if someone's calling foreign president trump, a fascist, that is a political determination that people who served with him have made the other thing that elon musk just did. and others that is that is a very different kind of attack
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that you and i think or not that is hurt. that is about her gender. but the not deciding it based on this. that's just what the polls are showing us and we'll see you in a week, but neither one of those arguments is convincing to the american people. will hit pause there. thank you all very much. and next 11, musk sued over is million dollars a day giveaway. is it impacting the race and breaking the law? i'll ask pennsylvania and you, secretary of state and republicans were already preparing to take back the senate, but a new poll just out as dashing their hopes. >> harry enten is outfront tonight to you by stanley steamer from carpet upholstery air ducts and more. it's not clean until it's stanley steamer, right now, pet dander skin cells, mold spores, politan dirt are being sucked into your air ducts, get cleaner air in system efficiency. now, with stanley steamer, your air ducts aren't clean until they're stanley steamer clean
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search underway for whomever set fire to ballot drop boxes in two different states. >> so the fires were in washington state and oregon and destroyed hundreds of ballots and authorities at this hour believed the two fires are connected and they've actually identified what they say is a suspect via nichols tied to the incidents that is according to latest reporting out of the associated press this hour. and it actually comes days after a mailbox fire in swing state of arizona damaged multiple ballots. tonight, the fbi, and dhs are warning of, quote, domestic violent extremists to want to terrorize the voting process with election workers being potential targets front. now pennsylvania's republican secretary of state, al schmidt and secretary schmidt i'm sorry to be talking to you under these circumstances and i know we're going to be talking a lot over these next weeks as this all plays out. i want to start with these fires. how worried are you about them are you worried pennsylvania could be a target of these sort of drop
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certainly seen reporting on these incidences in pennsylvania, all drop boxes that we have. >> again, they are county board of elections drop boxes have video surveillance on them. they are secured into the ground or and usually or an oftentimes staffed by okay. people to make sure that voters can return their ballot directly to their county in a way that's safe and secure. >> so when you hear the fbi and the dhs are so i'm glad to hear about the cameras and the putting. it into the ground i mean, details that we wouldn't necessarily even need to talk about, but i'm glad we are because it's important. but when you hear the fbi and the dhs warning of domestic violent extremists with election workers being potential targets what. are you even able. to do to protect election workers? so many of whom of course, are volunteers coming out to help their community and. the most
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important people on election day it's not the secretary of state, it's not even a county commissioner. it's those friends and neighbors who volunteer essentially for 14 day in pennsylvania to make sure that when you show up to vote, you can make your voice heard at your local polling place. the shapiro administration last year set up an election threats task force so that we have clear lines of communication with federal, state, and local partners in law enforcement and election administration to make sure that if any of these ugliness returns that we saw in 2020 everyone knows what everyone else's role is, and we can make sure that if there's any threats targeting our voters are our poll workers, or are pulling places or are counting election staff that will be prepared so secretary in pennsylvania, in lancaster county, officials there say they stopped suspected fraud and as many as 2,500 voter registration forms that some of these margins of victory in
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many states last time, that this could be everything. >> those applications that showed inaccurate addresses mismatch signatures, several forms at the same handwriting and they say this was what they call a large-scale canvassing operation that's what was responsible. what more can you tell me about that well, i'm eager to hear the full report from the county. >> they reached out to us right away. we provided guidance to them for how to handle this sort of situation. it was that they received a significant get number of registrations as a group and some number of them they believe to not be legitimate. so at the end of that investigation will hear from them the degree to which they have found evidence of voter registration fraud. i just want to be clear. voter registration fraud is separate from voter-fraud. and while the to count intersect, when you apply to register to vote in pennsylvania you're providing a driver's license number or you're providing a social security number. so when someone files fraudulent voter registration application and
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it's not legit, it's easy to identify and flag. >> alright, so then do you feel that you know the full extent of this? is it and other counties, i mean, do you feel like you have a sense of how big it is it's really at the county level. >> and i'm confident that the county will report out to the pennsylvania department of state and everyone else. the extent to which they have found evidence of this at all alright, so i want to ask you about elon musk. >> you know, he's being sued now by the district attorney in philadelphia over that million dollar a day give away that he's giving to vote or registered voters in swing states like yours they say that it's an unlawful lottery. they want it shut down. do you think elon musk has broken the law secretary? >> well, i can certainly see why it would be concerning the pennsylvania department of state is not a law enforcement agency. so i would really leave that up to our partners in law enforcement to make a determination about whether that's lawful or not? >> i'm curious when there's
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been all this talk about whether pennsylvania will be able to have results on election day. i know you have cautioned against expecting that even though you have machines that will help open some of those mail in ballots that are designed to open the outer ballot, the enter ballot. all of that. >> but now you're getting a sense for how many people are voting early do you have a better feel every day, secretary with how quickly you'll be able to tell the country who won pennsylvania well erin, every election, whether you have mail ballot voting or not always comes down to how close an election is before you know who won and who lost and while our laws unfortunately have not changed since 2020, that prevent counties from processing mail ballot envelopes before 7:00 a.m. on election shan morning. some things have changed. new equipment at the counties, a lot more experienced than they had in 2020, and fewer voters voting by mail, even though it's widely embraced during that peak, covid environment, we certainly had a lot more
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voters choosing to vote by mail. so with those three things, i'm confident that our county partners will process mail ballots, expeditiously and with integrity. >> all right. well secretary, i appreciate your time. thank you very much thank you, erin the next the breaking news, trump just attacking michelle obama always nasty to me michelle obama i'm republicans panicking over new signs. they could lose a save senate seat one that could cost them the senate majority 8:00 on cnn at fisher investments. >> we may look like other money managers, but we're different. >> we're a fiduciary, obligated to act in our client's best interests so we don't sell any commission-base d products, then how do you make money? we have a simple management fee structured, so we do better when our clients do better the clients really come first them home yes, we
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>> greg for who she opened up a little bit of a little bit of a box. >> she opened up a little bit of subsidy that way. that was a big mistake that you made that attack coming two days after lines like this from michelle obama as she urged voters not to support trump understanding of policy, no ability to put together a coherent argument no honesty, no decency, no morals all right. >> everyone is back with me, lulu, michelle obama, obviously still extremely popular. and then this weekend when she came out in the campaign trail, you
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know, that was her big first or big in these final days, choosing to come out and, you know, obviously she was very aggressive in her attacks against trump, but then he's coming out and saying that she was nasty to him obviously, the word nasty brings back the memories of nasty woman and the t-shirts that we all still see people wearing around who were hillary clinton supporters was it a mistake for trump to use the word or do you believe it was fully purposeful? >> no. clearly fully purposeful he's used those words before and also he's launching them against michelle obama because she is a very effective messenger for the democrats. i mean, that speech was a powerful speech. some would have urged her to come around sooner because people like michelle obama, she pulls oftentimes even higher than her husband and, you know, she's, a bestselling, author. people identify with her. and so you know, when trump takes her on, he's doing that deliberately because she is very effective for the democrats as a political messenger, especially in this election, especially about reproductive rights so
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van does she respond to this? i mean, in the whole, you know, when they go low, we go high or is this just a whole different game? and she should seize on the whole use of the word not nasty. and what it conjures up for some voters look, michelle obama has been taking dog trump to the woodshed every time she's been on a microphone for eight years and he has never spoken her name because he's terrified of her strength, her power, everybody has a nickname. >> he's i mean, you can't talk bad about donald trump without getting jumped on. this is the first time he's even said her name and his response was pretty muted because he knows if he steps hard, it gets michelle obama. he is going to bring the roof down on his head. so even he knows better than to take on michelle obama. i love obama, andrew, husband and so american so makayla, hillary clinton was called nasty. he's called kamala harris nasty as well. but you know, you heard van say van, what was the word you said muted. a bit muted. muted.
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okay. so mikayla, do you know what's nasty to me, michelle obama, and then he said she was nasty, you shouldn't be that way. that was a big mistake. she made. do you also think that's muted? i mean, he's given some of the other things we've heard him say it would appear it is right. he could've done a know. you don't want michelle obama and if he goes further than that, he's going to regret it i mean, he prefaced that with i was always nice to her. >> i think what's interesting here is look, trying to shame people into voting for your candidate. i don't think is really effective whether it's kind of presuming that people that disagree with you are racist or massage anas if they're going to vote for the guy you don't like. country, when the country is this debye, she literally said that you are going to be you have the health of women and there could be your daughters and your sisters are your mothers and they're going and so if you are well, van what she said was that she was speaking specifically to the men and she said it's going to be your daughters and if you vote for this guy, i don't understand this country. i might not have it. perfect. but she admitted that she doesn't
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understand that half the country disagrees with her, and i think we should be giving people a reason to vote for something not only saying that they don't like the other guy. and i think that that's not effective. we'll find out. lulu is this, is that a fair criticism of the democratic strategy right now? well, it might be a fair criticism of the democratic strategy if we just in our previous session talk about all the things that were said at that rally in new york. so i, you know, it's very hard the pot calling the kettle black when you know, when we've just seen this kind of festival of hate. so yeah, i don't think it's necessarily fair criticism at the end of the day. i do think though people are tired of the name calling and the ugliness of this campaign and many people just want it to be over me included. >> yeah, i think i haven't heard anybody who hasn't just said just get it over and then you don't need to say anything else. don't really care what they which way they're going. they just everyone is united in wanting it over.
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republicans by surprise. just two points behind fissure in a new poll out today, which we call a dead heat, because it's within side the margin of error. and harry enten is outfront live from the magic wall so harry, we've talked about a lot of important senate races, people even talking about ted cruz. this is not one that is on many people's radar, but it's incredibly close and it could be hugely significant for republicans odds of taking control of the senate. >> what a shocker that paul was that took my mind. let's just talk about the senate math, right. all right. the seats, the gop he needs for senate control. they need a net pickup of one if trump wins, but two, if harris wins, right? because right now, democrats have 51 seats or at least caucusing with the democrats compared to the 49 seats for republicans. but here's the deal. when you look at the senate math at this point, if you're talking about the race ratings, right, what do we see? we see that republicans actually get up to 51 seats. why? because go to the great state of west virginia. take me home, west virginia. jim justice a solid republican pickup for joe manchin, of course, former democrat now at the independent
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another seat that republicans have been doing quite well if we're going to, all the way out west to maury povich, his home in the great state of montana where the incumbent jon tester is an underdog at this point, for republicans tim sheehy. but of course, what happens, what happens if we go to nebraska and change the senate math in the great state of nebraska, what if we go here right between fisher and osborne and all of a sudden we take that and we go from red to independent. the republicans dropped down to 50 seats and all of a sudden, the senate math gets awfully shaky for republicans darren, i mean, it's incredible. >> i mean, how surprising would it be when you look at this race that a lot of people were not focused on, right? when you have an independent candidate. and we've all been beaten over the head for the past year that everybody wishes that there could be a third way in this country, but there isn't. but an independent candidate to actually unseat not just saw informator party in this case, a republican button an incumbent republican i tell you it would be quite the shocking thing. >> why? well, let's talk about this the last time an independent senator was elected outside the great state of new
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england, erin, look at this. you have to go all the way back since 1,976, it was harry bird from virginia and he of course, was actually an incumbent himself. so the idea that you might the able to defeat incumbent, my goodness, gracious, but it's not just that because it's also about the fact that if we look at senate races and presidential races in the trump era, safe voted the same way instead of presidential races 68 at a 69 times. so the idea that nebraska would vote for trump and also not vote for republican for a senate. that is quite the shocker. erin that would be quite the shocker whether we're splitting this about seeing valid splitting, or if it goes to democratic weigh, whether then that means this week for the senate and the house and all these things would require just scenarios in certain states that right now nobody has on their bingo card as we like to say, shakur's, i'm sorry, harry. >> thank you next, neil degrasse tyson on aliens sending humans to mars. >> and elon musk's latest assertion
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cnn the door to the possibility of alien life there's no reason not to. i mean, there's no reason not to think that mars and all these planets don't have life elon musk, of course. >> now, big trump supporter, taking it a step further. visit us. maybe, maybe there are here right now. i haven't seen any like sort of green aliens with antennas on the head or anything like that and maybe the are, they just very subtle outfront. >> now, you may hear him chuckling famed astrophysicist, neil degrasse tyson. ahead of the hayden planetarium host of star talk. and just wrote the newly revised edition of his first book, merlin tour of the universe. we were talking about the beautiful color their cover there. so neal, ok, trump has talked about putting an astronaut on mars. and he has said, it in one of his comments that he, that the u.s. will be the first nation to land an
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astronaut on mars. now, we know in the lexicon of trump that could just be an absolute nothing. is this a real possibility or not? >> you have to ask, why would one do that? and we have a very capable, multiple capable one of them is an suv sized rover on mars that you've in fact carried a helicopter. so in terms of scientific exploration, you don't really need people, but it's fun to send people because they can come back and you give them parades and you named schools after them so i don't have i don't have a problem i don't have an issue against sending people, but the only time we've ever done that is when there's a geopolitical motive not simply because it felt like the next thing we should do and one thing about elon commenting about aliens with antennas. the generation of aliens with antennas was back when our team if he hadn't that's probably good about that. we don't draw it. aliens with antennas anymore. this is just the fact
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that our imagination flows out of our entire culture, not out of any real data that's coming from the university yet. >> well, that's it. that there's a lot of comments like a big none of them are positive about the current state of social media and discourse. i'll keep them to myself. elon muscle when it comes to talking about why one would do this and he and trump now obviously are very tightly tied together politically. he has made the argument as to why here he is we can actually bold permanently occupied science base on the moon. we can build a city on mars. we can be multiplanet species. and out there among the stars, it's very exciting. we want to make stuff the academy real other star systems ventrally and see if there are alien civilizations. >> i just want to note and maybe this is a moment because i know a lot of people have strong feelings about elon musk. some people really like them. a lot of people despise him right now. he's saying that on the campaign trail, and that's a really odd, rare thing. and that anybody on a
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campaign trail, we'll be talking about that sort of thing and that sort of detail and apparently wants you to think about the future and that's a future. >> the question is whether how real that is, right? and i'm saying when we went to the moon, are cleansed memory of that episode was a were explorers. we're discoverers americans, and you park the curtains. it was we were at war with the soviet union and they were beating us and every checkpoint in space. the first satellite, the first human, the first the first dog for not yet non-human dog, the first space station, the first woman, the first black person there was a cuban. alright, so they've beat us at everything that we got to the moon before them. and we said, we win and then we look over our shoulder and they weren't there and we stopped going. that's that's evidenced that we didn't go to the moon just to explore. we went through to beat the russians and we succeeded. and the geopolitical drivers for that day, they're down between a little bit, a little bit because china oh, by the way, why did we stay on the moon in 1972 or go back? back in 1980, 1990, 2000, 2010. there was no
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perceived geopolitical threat china's says, hey, we might put some taikonauts on the moon, all of a sudden, nasa says, oh, let's that's have the artemis program and put humans back on the moon so, you know, and, in all this, of course, there's the embarrassment of boeing, would its been going through elon musk? >> obviously? there has been a bright, shining light for the american space and rocket program. again, whatever you think of his politics that is for sure. but one thing about space right now, been replaced we, you know, you're in the future. >> if one space vessel doesn't work, you just choose another one that's pretty, you know, you're in the few that's good. >> that never used to be the debris was the case. >> yeah, it would've been stranded astronauts forever so elon musk on the campaign trail and on the campaign stage, making those comments, trump talking about pudding, an astronaut on mars. >> in a sense, this is the most nonpartisan thing either one of them say kamala harris, leads the national space council. she leaves the national space council and here's what she has said now
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extraordinary opportunity. >> so our task, dare i say, our duty as nations must be to work together to make that opportunity real and to preserve it for future generations yep, space has hardly ever been partisan so i'm happy to report that fact. >> nasa has ten centers scattered into eight states. states that variously vote five read three, blue, five blue, three, red and so if you had a strong opinion about nasa one way or another, it would not correlate with your politics. >> that's a good fact. >> it's a great fact yes, it's a great fact in time, we can all feel quite down. so now in your book, i love it because it's just, it's questions i i mean, i just looking through so many about the moon stars exploration cartoons drawn by your brother, brothers, an artist. >> he went to high school of music and art back in the day here in new york city, board of
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what became laguardia. we they merge more on par, a high school music and performing arts. and it became laguardia. >> well, the cartoons are great and their character merlin explains all these ideas and answers people's questions. one of which you add someone asked about, it's impossible for there to be two full moons in february, but then there's leap year. so explain to me how squeeze him in because it's time between full moon, just 29.5 days. can't squeezing into february even when you even when you give it an extra day and with the help of the front part about the merlin character that takes the reader through is it's merlis, is quirky, and existed for all of time. so recalls conversations with famous characters like isaac newton is a conversation between him and isaac newton explains gravity. so it was, it was it was fun to just reinhabited that character from and so long ago hope everyone will get this new
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