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state of the race. laura coates live starts right now rally at m madison square garde totally backfire. >> and this is campaign even care. the nereporting tonight with just eight days to go. plus jeff bezos breaks his silence. the washington post owner drops an op-ed in his own paper explaining why he blocked the endorsement of kamala harris and hulk hogan is on trump's side of the ring, but harris has a wrestler in her own corner mick foley, ak mankind is my guest tonight on laura coates sliwa polls at a virtual standstill. >> you might be wondering, are there really any voters whose minds can still be changed? well, after what happened on trump's new york city rally play last night, some in his
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camp are worried about this very argument was overshadowed by controversy. one source close to trump says, quote, i am livid especially over this comment from a comedian who as part of a trump warmup act at the garden there's a lot going on like, i don't know if you guys know this, but there's literally a floating island of garbage in the middle of the ocean right now. >> yeah. >> i think it's called puerto rico that's just by the way, one example it puts malice at the palace to shame call this one, maybe grievance at the garden. >> puerto rican superstar is lining up the signal support for harris after that comment from bad bunny to jennifer lopez, ricky martin, and mark andrews will it spark though some latino voters who have been increasingly embracing trump to now rethink their support i'll ask veteran tv journalists and former trump ally geraldo rivera that very
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question in just a moment. >> now the campaign is disavowing the so-called, and i do mean so-called joke. >> that wasn't funny, let alone accurate is aid is not reflect the views of president trump or his campaign that that's it. that's the full there's no ellipse that's the sentence and trump himself hasn't said anything about it, at least not yet anyway his running mate though, senator jd vance, what he had more to say a comedian told a joke and i don't think that's news worth making. >> i think what is news is that americans can't afford their groceries because kamala harris has been a terrible vice president. maybe i just grew up with a grandmother who added especially foul mouth. but, you know what i do. you know what i do when i think a joke is dumb or not funny, i don't laugh i don't create i don't create a fake outrage cycle to distract from the fact that our americans our fellow americans can afford to buy housing. that
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is outrageous trump campaign and camp is distancing itself from the joke. >> well, how did it end up there in the first place? did they really not know anything about it? >> sorry. we're learning that there are still disputes over who actually approves the comedian set. one adviser telling cnn, no one reviewed his remarks and full another says the campaign was not given a draft that included some of his more incendiary jokes but it did flag one that called harris, the c-word saying it was quote in poor taste. >> now harris, for her part, was campaigning across michigan today and called it more of the same fueling of hate and division from donald trump barack obama, though, you some other adjectives, night in a rally in pennsylvania, home to about half a million americans
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most racist sexist, bigoted stereotypes. if somebody does not respect you the somebody does not see you as fellow citizens with equal claims opportunity so the pursuit of happiness to the american dream you should not vote for them emmy award-winning journalist, geraldo rivera, who has endorsed kamala harris for president geraldo. >> good to see you. >> let's just get right into this it's because a floating island of garbage and then puerto rico in the same sentence, it's unbelievable. think about this. what had been said, you call this hate speech is this a moment that is going to be a turning point in
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trump's campaign. be naive or don't understand the business of politics, but i sense laura after a lifetime in this business, that this is a watershed moment. i believe, and i don't think it's overstating that historian because will look back at this moment and say that's where donald trump lost the latino vote. that's where he lost the vote of many people of color, people who were drifting toward him for some reasons and explicable some reasons that maybe they just wanted to get on the trump train but i believe that trump pete last night and i believe that the polls will show that this was so disgustingly insulting this was so racist. but what it did laura was to open and lay bare what was implied in president trump's remarks for this. most of this campaign talking about
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immigrants poisoning the blood of our nation. immigrants have a gene, a trick gene that makes them more prone to homicide this is such slander, racial slander. and the fact that this comedian could feel comfortable enough to go on that state what was to be his president, trump's finale is closing argument and to make it instead, this load down and dirty racial remark he made overt this comedian. what was implied in the trump campaign, and that is an undercurrent of racism that is deeply disturbed you know, geraldo, when you laid out the way you have, i cannot help but think of two things. one, there is a distancing of people from those comments from the campaign itself. trump certainly is not the one to have said those specific words, but i take your point about the overall context then you also have the fact
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that in spite of the building up to this moment of a closing argument he's virtually tied in spite of the rhetoric. so why do you think this time it would be different? >> well, i mean, the fact that he is got half of the country i think that is that again historians will ponder that question. i think that this, there is a deep division and i'm not condemning trump's supporters. i believe that they are in some ways very deceiving themselves about why trump is even a candidate. how is this man not disqualified? this is a man who you can't trust to honor the constitution. this is the man who stabbed the constitution in the back with on january 6 and the attack on democracy and peaceful succession and all the rest of
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that. and yet he did, and yet he is. and the president, former president, i believe is appealing to the basest lowest instincts of people who are disgruntled and want to do anything they can to fight kamala harris and the democrats i'm not a democrat. i'm a republican i have liked and supported donald trump for a long time, but he now has gone beyond the pale and it is intolerable law well, geraldo, some republicans like senator rick scott, for example, were very quick to distance themselves from the comments others like vivek ramaswamy called this selective outrage. and he pointed to end george lopez remark about stereotyping mexicans as thieves during a tim walz rally today or yesterday in arizona. listen to that moment. going to build a wall and george lopez said, you better
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build it in one day because if you leave that material either overnight though, those who were saying that it's they grow sami, this is somehow selective outrage and odious. >> this was so deeply disturbing to any any man or woman special, any latino man to whom the republican party, donald trump is appealing. any latino man who does not understand that a vote for donald trump is a vote against his own self respect as a vote against his self-esteem when george lopez does this, it's the same thing as using the n word. people who are living in a life and put yuma in their own experience, god bless them say anything you want about
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yourself. but when you attack me and mine and my family and my grandparents and my parents, i take it very, very personally. puerto rico is perennially embattled place. it has been neglected, it has been mismanaged. i want puerto rico to be a state to have the checks and balances because of statehood. i that's my personal preference. but we are a people and i puerto rico is part of the united states and i hasten to add that puerto ricans are citizens and they are voting it is we live on the edge. the poorest by far its half the gdp of mississippi. lots and lots of people that are in need. it is a place without electricity half the time and the wind blows over 20 miles an hour we need we need to know that our leaders respect us. we need not
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to be concerned when people say, oh, they're eating cats and dogs that haitians are, or compare us with the invaders i just think that we have to stand up and we have to make sure that we cast the ballot and have our voices heard. laura geraldo rivera, thank you. >> i want to pick up this very moment, moment in conversation with our panel, who's sitting with me. democratic strategist, chuck rocha, cnn contributor lulu garcia navarro, and former special assistant to president trump marc lotter. i want to begin with that point that he was making to suggest that i believe his suggestion was if george lopez is saying it as a mexican american and talking about mexican americans, somehow, it is fine similar to a black person using the n word to describe themselves or the world around them in some way is this convincing though to voters who will look at this and say no, no. i'm offended when you use the word, when you talk about anybody and he does cancel each other out. is that a possibility or was what? this
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was? comedian, i hate to use that term lightly here is saying it. so beyond the pale that it's not a conversation about how we repossess terms of her decision. >> it's an ongoing narrative in the story of this election. it's almost over. i can't believe it's almost over where at this 0.8 days that it's a self-inflicted wound wounded, didn't need to happen. and strategists like me cringe at these moments because it can literally in your campaign, and this kid in his campaign, i'm not being hyperbolic, but there's a lot of puerto ricans in battleground states and i was there when the count sunday when i saw it. i not only won the largest latino political consulting firm, i run one of the largest latino packs and i went out on twitter and said, somebody give me $30,000 so i can sit in this clip to every puerto rican in pennsylvania to tell them what i think about and i raise that money in six hours because that's how outrage people were. and i think that's the big difference here is you've got to show some respect especially with puerto rico's. they're very profitable much feed if you're ever been to puerto rican parade, i'll say two things. first thing you do is
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you don't ever, ever say anything about their eyelid and to unison and bad about rules you really got. >> what mark you were at madison square garden. i was i am really curious. take the temperature of the room for us. how did that play in the crowd among voters, but also how did it play among strategists who knew this was a closing argument moment, and the wounds that could they've been inflicted could be catastrophic is any campaign. >> so i think the first thing we have to remember is this happened about three-and-a-half to four hours before the president took the stage. this was this was very early in the pre-program. i think i got there at 12:30. i think the speaker started at 2:30. the president went on at 7:30 at night. so this was so the crowd was still filing in. people who are still we're getting food. they were saying hi to people who they hadn't seen in awhile is a giant family were union. and i think there were some people back there. you heard it, they kind of turned around and noticed you did not hear the roar of laughter or those kinds of things. and a lot of his comments i've seen kind of fell. there was kind of like a like a polite very muffled
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because again, the room is filling up well, you know, again it's going to have legs and so as a strategy about this, you've now heard it. >> you know, it is not going anywhere. the comment this is by the way, i went back to look and see some of the past remarks in 2017, he's made comments about from hurricane maria. you called it one point an absolutely plays with absolutely no hope he lashed out puerto rico in 2019, calling it one of the most corrupt places on earth before approaching hurricane skirted the island and go along with this assault. >> comedian i think is the way i'm talking about trump. at that point. so when you talk about trump having said these things, yes, this comedian said it, but does it have legs can be attributed to trump even though it was before? he was opening act. >> no. i don't think it can't be the one they that they have distanced themselves from what they immediately put out a statement saying that this was not something that was supported by the campaign or by the president. and people do remember that he was down there after the hurricanes he was delivering millions of dollars in aid. he was begging the local government down there, the state government for me to invest in upgrading their power
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grid because they had been hit multiple times over and over again. and so i understand it from kamala harris's standpoint, she needs this. she has to change the narrative. she's a she's shifting away and she's going into grievance campaign. >> i appreciate fascist, nazi rally i appreciate the attempt to sort of justify this, but the fact is that they had a rally these people were vetted, they took the time to take away the c-word out of his set, which, you know, i guess they should get a medal for that. all things considered that wasn't the only offensive thank he said he also talked about things that are actually we can't really discuss your vote about how latinos procreate and use very vulgar terms for it. i mean, he's an insult comic, but this is the kind of language that is inexplicable if you are trying to win the latino vote okay. this is the kind of language that not only offense puerto
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ricans, but you know, i'm cuban i mexican americans. i mean, nobody likes it when their home country is called garbage, you're calling americans garbage, right? more broadly, which is what is called america he's already he's already said that the united states is like a trash heap. so this is by extension, their home island is like a trashy, but i mean port ricans are americans you know, there's cuban americans and mexican americans. we are all americans. and so i think the problem here is that when you start to use this kind of language, it is different than george lopez making that joke. you can find george love was funny or not find georgia was funny. i personally don't find jurors will was that funny? but at the end of the day, it's his culture and he's talking about it. that's very different than this one thing we're misreading here is the reason why they are losing massive amounts of the black vote, the massive amounts of the hispanic and latino vote is because people can't afford gas and groceries. >> they're not, they can't you get a mortgage for a home? our border is wide open in our
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world is at war this joke doesn't change that. and so i think for many people those fundamentals and the american dream that barak obama talked about, they can't get the american dream because of kamala harris and joe biden, not because of some very i'm filed joke. >> i'm working on the fatal pay me to be pretty on tv. they pay me to win elections and i'm working on elections from new york to california and none of those elections is donald trump massively winning either one of those votes. if you want me to say that some of the latino men vote has ease their way towards being trumped. curious, i'll give you that every day, maybe two or 3% of black men episode hello, and we can't afford to lose those. i'll give you that strategically, but i'll tell you what we're not talking about is what you're talking about because republicans have got a message that could work if you can get your boy to stay on message. but what we're talking about today ain't gas and groceries. that's another good day for kamala harris on top of that, chuck roche and a lot of other people sent that text every puerto rican in georgia. that's when you started? having a double whammy of what gives us a chance to win an election that should be hard for us to win because of the economic headwinds that we
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face. but this is how kamala harris wins if we're having to talk about this seven days out, we'll see how i mean, yeah, almost seven days away thinking about it. not the strategy you want to employ in your closing arguments. thank you so much, everyone a surreal day ahead on the campaign trail. kamala harris set to give a speech at the ellipse the same place where donald trump told his supporters to fight like hell on january 6, just as steve bannon? yes steve bannon gets set to walk out of prison. >> new reporting and insight on a day that could very well define this race again, next least saving on your families medication is prescription savings made easy. another good reason to check, good rx just a little bit more and you'll feel better
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from interviews that he doesn't even have the courage to do, you that's former first lady michelle obama excoriating donald trump. >> she lived in behind the seven words she said in 2016. do you remember him when they go low? we go high and said she went for a take donald trump in michigan on saturday and tonight. trump responded with a refrain. you might remember from 2016 you know, it's nasty to me. michelle obama nice and respectful she opened up a little bit of a little bit of a box. >> she opened up a little bit of sap. the issue is nasty >> that was a big mistake that you made joining me now, national co-chair of the harris-walz campaign, congresswoman jasmine crockett, a democrat from texas. >> you're already taking your
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head. what do you say to this idea of the first lady michelle obama opening up pandora's box and making a big mistake by going after trump yeah, this is a guy that loves to wage all types of fights and wars and we know that in project 2025, that is one of the doors that he wants to walk into to be able to weaponize the department of justice in the way that he is projected has happened to him when we know that he's just a crime i'm no like some people are just criminals and he's made this up and it's one of the reasons that he's really dangerous and we can't allow him to go in to the white house because we can't have someone that's going to consistently tried to go after their perceived political enemies if his taylor swift or michelle obama, it tells me there's a lot of antithetical notions to democracy. >> and what is being pushed by the harris campaign specifically, as him being a threat to democracy. and she'll give a speech tomorrow. the vice president on the ellipse where donald trump spoke before what happened on january 6.
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there's a new poll out by cnn, though congressman i mean crockett that found that harris only leads trump by four points on the question of whom voters trust to protect democracy how can harris convince voters that she indeed can do just that? >> yeah, i'd have to ask those in the poll, how did they defend democracy? and i think that that's the problem. i think that we have this thwarted definition of democracy, because how could you support someone who pals around with the likes of putin and decides that he's going to send covid tests to putin before he takes care of us citizens that are dying to the tune of almost 1 million, right? so i think that we have mixed up what does democracy mean? there are those that challenges all the time from the right saying, well, you didn't got it, right. we don't live in a democracy. but i do think that it is important that she is going to return to the crime of the scene. are the scene of the crime. and i think that she's going to lay out
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and try to remind people of what happened here under his leadership. what was january 6 because they are trying to rewrite history and pretend as if this was a beautiful day. there was nothing beautiful about the slaughter that we saw take place. and it's interesting because if you talk to black folk, black folk don't believe that they would have ever gotten that far into the capitol in the first please because this was an act of violence because there were over 1,000 people that have been charged. and many of them have already been convicted we need to see the difference because he's too afraid to get dot walked on another debate stage. i think that this is a good way. it's a kind and a draw out. the difference by returning to the exact same scene. and let's see what her message looks like versus the one that he delivered on january 6 going after one's political enemies smacks of fascism, are worried that we're hearing a lot of, there's been some reluctance by he bled senator bernie sanders to have
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that word be used. >> there's reporting for the new york times that a pro-harris super pac is actually why in the campaign to pivot away from calling trump a fascist and saying in a memo, its quote not that persuasive. and said they wanted to focus on the economy you've been all around this country with this campaign what should her closing argument and message be? >> i'm going to say you like this. i think the voters that have already decided that they're harris voters understand the threat that he is, they understand that he is a fascist. i think the voters that we're still trying to get to probably could care less and may not even fully understand what it means. it's just like you put up the poll about democracy what they do know is whether or not they have enough money to make it to the next shake. what they do know is whether or not they can afford their groceries, what they do know is whether or not they can afford childcare. and so she has plans and not concepts of plans for all these things.
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while project 2025 and trump's plan as a year get rid of things such as head start. she wants to make sure that we bring back the child tax credit, which would allow for families to have up to $300 per child a month in relief to help them when they are struggling with things such as child childcare. we're starting to talk about the cost of food. let me tell you, democrats are ready to pass a farm bill is the republicans that want to come but the $30 billion from stamp benefits. and so therefore they refuse to pass a farm bill. but we want to make sure that those that are struggling and only getting that $6 a day to eat, that they can have that money. we also understand the importance of investing in people and so when you're looking at the fact that she's laid out a plan for 1 million new loans with us up to $20,000 per loan for newly created small businesses, $20,000 being forgivable. that means that now we're creating new businesses and we know that the backbone of our economy is small businesses. and so this means that we're giving people an opportunity to build those
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legacies that will carry on for years and years and years, but also put them into a situation where they're not relying on somebody else to pay them a fair wage, but instead they can go out and make their own money, leave it to a lawyer for the closing argument. congresswoman jasmine crockett. thank you so much. >> good to see you. good to see you. >> look, according to npr, jeff bezos has cost the washington post's get this 200,000 subscribers. >> why for now, a lot in his paper to endorse in this race atop the ticket won. well tonight, bezos's explaining why in his own words is is reasoning fair? what about the timing will get into it with kara swisher next to cost price because looking you okay, with $50 instantly when you play your first five hours, alon, think i need a second download the app and played $5 to get $50 instantly
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of any kind, is it work here neither campaign nor candidate was consulted or informed at any level or in any way about this decision? gen. it was made entirely internally with me. now, kara swisher, a cnn contributor, and new york times opinion contributing writer and host. of course, the podcast sway. kara, i am eager to get your take because i have to ask you about this argument. he's making. he is suggesting that americans don't trust the media endorsements create a perception of bias so there should be no endorsements do you agree with that know? >> i don't i don't know when he's just caught up on the fact that the media is not liked. >> i think it's been since colonial times when the media wasn't like it was just that short period when the watergate
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happened in the washington post's save democracy, and they liked to stand for that i didn't understand this piece at all that was sort of jeff bezos made the right decision by jeff bezos, that kind of thing. you know, the problems facing media are so complex and it was and he knows them. that's the problem here. i don't i'm not sure what he was writing here. it was sort of a perplexing peace it's a bit of arrogance and sort of excuse-making rather than saying i made a silly mistake and i went, he could not have an endorsement that's fine. it's just that he didn't he did it a week before the election, ten days i don't know what this thing says, but the problems with midi are myriad including social media, including the lapse of the business model including all kinds of things, as well as donald trump attacking the media for four years, calling him the enemy of the state. so it's a little more complex and he knows better it reads a little bit like it's good to be the king, right? >> it's my money, my paper, i'll do what i want but better
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than i would have preferred that i would i mean, it certainly that's the criticism, is that it's not genuine that he's saying what he's saying and the timing is the factor as well as the appointed this because the timing is that they were set to endorse not just someone, but harris specifically, and npr is now reporting that more than 200,000 readers have canceled their subscriptions it's just last week so has his decision. do you think caused more people to actually lose trust in the media and the paper is simply. >> yeah, i think it wasn't over the harris thing if they're making so many straw men here as we shouldn't have endorsements will the last time they didn't was back in the last century, like they did it for a short period okay. st. pretending, they're going back to judicial is just not true you know, i think it's i don't know about that number. who knows what that number is that we'd have to see it from the post itself, but it's not good for a company that was struggling already to be losing subscribers over just an unforced error like this. if they wanted to do no
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endorsement, they should have done it six months ago go maybe he was busy. i don't know what he was doing, but he could have decided that instead of right now, the timing is bad. and again, he spent a lot of time defending himself about quid pro quo. i don't think that's really the issue. it's that this was an independent group of editors that we're pushed down by the owner, which who had never done that before. by the way, geoff had has been a pretty good owner for most of the tenure that he's had here. but he just seems ill-equipped to understand the challenges of the modern media age and his rich okay, i'll give them that. that's really what he's got. but this was a real mistake, real mistake. but when his poll, you think that this have happened, if it had happened, say several months ago or a year ago or four years, is they were not going to weigh in the future. >> do you think that newspapers should be in this particular not space of an endorsement? >> i don't know which one of these debates you have in the sort of an egghead he way, i don't know. maybe if you want
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to maybe if you don't, it doesn't really matter. i don't think it moves voters. that's not the point is that this is just i don't think he should do things just for tradition. and if he doesn't want to do them. sure. but why now, why this it creates all kinds of possible civil conflicts of interest. it makes people wonder, it makes people question. and if he's talking about trust in media, there's no trust in jeff bezos's here, even if he deserves trust you just don't know the blue origin thing which she spent a lot of time that trump visited blue origin, his space company. it was it just looked bad all over the place. and he said it, i'm not the best person to own this because of so many conflicts of interests. and i was like, no, i didn't i'm not going to say the word on tv, but you know what i mean? >> it's just really thick and then ends in sherlock. my body is you got to know something charlotte. yeah. got it. i'm with you with you all the way on that. cares thank you so much, i should say kara is also the host of two fantastic
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house january 6 committee that led to 120 days and the low low-security federal correctional institution they shouldn't in danbury, connecticut where he works in the library apparently as an orderly and get this. >> he taught history and government civics to other inmates according to bannon's prison consultant. so the big question was going to happen tomorrow. one week before the election when bannon has freed former trump aide peter navarro, who coincidentally also served time behind bars for ignoring you gas it a congressional subpoena. he has an idea when he gets out, he has no intention of spending all his time sitting behind the desk like this my understanding is he's going to be out there out there on the stump well, joining me now, isaac arnsdorf, he's imaginal football reporter for the washington post, and the author of finish what we started, the maga movement's ground war to end
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democracy. >> isaac, good evening. we just heard peter navarro's prediction about him being from outside of the desk what have you heard about his plans tomorrow? >> my understanding is that he is going to be doing his show live at 10:00 a.m. back on the podcast. and then also be having a press conference in new york in the afternoon. they have been doing the podcast on warum. yes. that's right. and they have been taking that on the road, doing more on location in-person events. so you definitely could see some of that. but my understanding is that he's eager to get back on the show and be driving the message. >> what's his mindset like he's really people close to him, said he is really focused on getting trump over the finish line. >> i mean, he's really if you think about what was going on, 120 days ago when he went in, last time i spoke with him and it was just after the first debate between biden and trump. and biden was reeling from that. so that's before biden dropped out. it was before the
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assassination attempts, before. it means so much about this race has changed. he's been following along to the extent that he can. but this is just that last little push that he can be in the game for. >> does he think that he is the missing link to the campaign's success? >> well, i'm sure that he would not want to put his head up and risking getting chopped off by saying anything like that. but you can definitely say and no offense to the rotating cast of substitute war room hosts. in the meantime, but it hasn't been the same. and it really has been in a vacuum. the legitimacy and the determination that he brought to kind of pointing the movement in the same direction, not always in sync with the campaign, but, but bringing a coherence to the movement was really lacking. and i think you felt some of that in that period of listlessness. so in
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august over the summer where the campaign was kind of losing its grip on the race, you one of the things that mother jones had obtained some audio of steve bannon speaking back on october 31 of 2020. >> it's almost four years to the date. >> around a week before that year's election. >> of course he said that trump's strategy will be to declare himself a winter, which trump, of course, did do before all the votes were counted on election night. and so i wonder how in sync is he really with the campaign today, especially after now months behind bars? >> super interesting to see when he and trump speak again. i don't have any reporting. >> they've been in contact with asking you spoke to him? >> well, back in july, i mean, occasionally he's more often in touch with some people around trump than he is with trump directly at the time he folks in before this is a lifetime ago with biden on top of the ticket what was his thought on the prospects of a trump victory while he was at that time he was concerned about
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biden withdrawing and that it was going to be harder to run against harris, that they had overdone it in the debate well now we'll see me thinks he's getting out tomorrow isaac, so good to hear from you. thank you so much. yeah. >> all right. >> you know, donald trump has hulk hogan and his co-owner, but don't think kamala harris isn't without some wrestling must love her roan, one of the toughest to ever grace the ring, so tough they nicknamed him the hardcore legend. mr. mick foley, aka mankato hind live with me on his newest nickname, being a bad dude for harris mixed it all comes down we can now make a major projection. >> the way only cnn can bring it to you election night in america, special coverage begins tuesday doesn't for on cnn. >> i'm a lifelong republican. i voted for trump twice, but i can't do it again trump wants a national sales tax on imported goods. it'll make
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>> i don't see no stegen nazis in here stinking domestic terrorists in here the only thing i see in here are a bunch of hard working men and women that are real americans. brother wrestler hulk hogan at trump's madison square garden rally over the weekend. but wait there's more here's hogan flexing his way off the stage, just some heavy rock music. it's all part of the concern in strategy by the trump campaign to court young male voters trump's become a mainstay on male oriented podcasts. appearances on flagrant on joe rogan, theo von nelk boys. he has frequently using an unranked the rnc side of the ufc fights with his friend, ufc boss dana white. and so far it seems to be working. trump is leading harris among men age 18 to 39. but he's not just besting
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harris, he's also beating himself is up five points compared to 2020 exit polls. well now i want to bring in mick foley. >> he's a wwe hall of fame legend aka mankind. >> and when i say legend, just watch this >> as i was saying that the legend mick foley with us, he is endorsing kamala harris for president. he's also author of naturally have a nice day mix. so good to see you this evening. thank you for joining us. i mean, look, you've got hogan there with trump another morris, so you've got the undertaker also endorsing trump is saying that he brought the fund back to politics. what's your response to hogan? another pro wrestler's who support trump? >> well, it's their right to do
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that i believe i was asked to talk with you today because of a video i put out that's received several million views where i said that the, undertaken was right donald trump did make politics fun for there's nothing fine about his rhetoric. there is nothing fine about the way he demeans citizens of this country and nothing funny about the way he talks down to women. and in my experience, real men respect strong women. they don't live in fear of them. >> you know, when you think about this concept of masculinity, it's been very much a part of the campaign. people are talking a lot about it this appeal to the so-called every and why does the harris campaign appeal to you well, i've always like kamala harris go back to when she was campaigning for president five
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years ago and i liked what she had to say. >> i just believe she's a positive person, a very competent person i want to embrace the joy that she brings the optimism and not the fear that has been donald trump's hallmark. i also want to point out that the reason i spoke up is because you know what it was it took some doing to get beyond here, laura, because i don't particularly want people to dislike me and i know that when you speak up against somebody who is very powerful and has very strong and loyal following that you're going to get some negative blowback but i also realized that i did not want to wake up on the day after the election to find out that a swing state have been lost by a couple of hundred votes. and to know that i could have made the difference. so to me, the two dirtiest words english language or what if and i don't want to be that guy. so i spoke out four years ago
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i'm doing it now and i think one thing that most of his followers don't understand is the long history he's had of i'm trying to think of a way not to say screwing over his workers, but i think that's the most basic and honest way he's got a long history of not paying his contractor, then his workers i find it the height of hypocrisy to say you're for the working man when you're history shows that you are only for yourself. i don't understand the mystery. i mean, i grew up on long island. so i was used to him my friends and i saw him as like a harmless con man, but he's not harmless anymore. he's a very dangerous con man and i'm going the general mark milley when i say he is the greatest danger to our country why do you think that's not apparent to those who are supporting trump? what, what is appealing about him? i mean, there's not a loaded question. what do you legitimately think is appealing about trump to those particular voters? and spinal and what you
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said, well, what do you know? >> we throw around the word fascism and you are wondering earlier if it's working. i don't think people understand the history of fascism if you were to say this is we're talking mussolini we're talking hitler than maybe i understand. i mean, general john kelly, he had to definition you know, by heart part he could recite it and said by the token of that definition, yes, he is a fascist. so you have guys like general mattis, general milley. these are men's man right? general john kelly all speaking out and voicing their concern. this is unprecedented in history. that a secretary defense, mark esper, will come on. i got to know secretary of defense william cohen a little bit and he speaking out, so you have people who love their country from both sides of the aisle. a patriot like liz cheney, whose career was completely derailed because she dared to have the courage to speak up. i think i don't
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know. i see strengthened compassion. i see courage and kindness. i don't see any of that. i don't see what's appealing about donald trump, except he's able to sell the american public on the idea that only he can solve their problems you know, it's so fascinating in particular, is in a country that people often described as one of the most divisive moments and divisive errors in our history you have had disagreements with friends of yours, like the undertaker, for example, and you're still able to be friends. and yet we don't often see people who have different viewpoints politically still able to overcome towards friendship. why do you think that's been such a hallmark of your on one hand the number of friends i've lost >> over politics,

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