tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN October 28, 2024 9:00pm-10:00pm PDT
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know. i see strengthened compassion. i see courage and kindness. i don't see any of that. i don't see what's appealing about donald trump, except he's able to sell the american public on the idea that only he can solve their problems you know, it's so fascinating in particular, is in a country that people often described as one of the most divisive moments and divisive errors in our history you have had disagreements with friends of yours, like the undertaker, for example, and you're still able to be friends. and yet we don't often see people who have different viewpoints politically still able to overcome towards friendship. why do you think that's been such a hallmark of your on one hand the number of friends i've lost >> over politics,
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for the next time we'll hug it out, we'll the best we can to keep a 30 year friendship going strong that was a bad mom and my friend just now watching it in person shows over nothing else can be said right now, the magic is deep that it was back the undertaker, mick foley. >> thank you. you so much. nothing more to say thank you so much for having me on laura. >> i hope everyone will vote wisely. >> thank you so much for joining what a pleasure is actually you. hey, thank you all for watching anderson cooper 360 starts now
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from the former president tape phil rally here in new york, new reporting on what one of the ugliest voices on stage almost called vice president harris in his prepared remarks. >> also tonight, new early voting numbers and the story that 43 million ballots and counting could be telling about where the race is heading and how far can rudy giuliani actually fall? will he lose his florida condo in addition to his new york apartment until allies he spewed defaming two election workers. good evening. thanks for joining us tonight. there is one more of the kind of normal campaign events. you see a little more than a week out from the election day this is the harris rally in michigan, and we'll bring you any news that comes from it. the story of the moment, however, continues to be the former president's hate-filled event last night and madison square garden not normal in any conventional sense, the word, but not surprising either. certainly revealing of what the candidate wants voters to hear in the campaign's closing days. and let's face it, it's a preview of the kind of things will be hearing an awful lot of in the next four years if donald trump wins, i want to
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point out with just a single exception neither trump his running mate nor the campaign have disavowed any of what was said now, here's the exception with a warning that like so much of what we're playing tonight on. like i don't know if you guys know this, but there's literally a floating island of garbage in the middle of the ocean right now. yeah, i think it's called puerto rico that's a guy called tony hinchcliffe who calls himself a comedian last night, the trump campaign says that remarked quote, does not reflect the views of president trump or the campaign. >> but again, that's the only remark they've disavowed today in wisconsin, running mate jd vance, by the way, would not even do that i haven't seen the joke. >> i you know, maybe maybe it's a stupid racist joke as you said, maybe it's not. >> i haven't seen it. i'm not going to comment on the specifics of the joke, but i think that we have to stop getting so offended at every little thing in the united states of america. i'm just i'm so over it so over there
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you go a little bit about sizing, touch and gas-lighting and a dollop of fierce he's over it. so lineup for instance, everyone, as for now, as for not having seen the remarks, wisconsin maybe cheese, but it is not the dark side of the moon. and in a case he was actually at the garden to hear the remarks. so in case mr. vance maybe watching, let's just play some of what else was viewed at this rally, none of which the campaign has he had disavowed and yes it to his offensive. this one is about latinos and if there are children in the room, you might want to mute the love making babies to just know that they do. they do. there's no polling out they don't do that. they come inside just like they did to our country yeah so that's puerto rico and latinos. >> he also had thoughts about a black men who black guy with a thing on his head, what the hell is that a lamp shade. look at this guy. oh my goodness
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>> that's one of my buddies he had a halloween party last night. we had fallen, we carved watermelons together. it was awesome. >> he also want jewish people as tight with money. and of course, none of this should come as a surprise that campaign one campaign adviser told cnn they knew enough in advance about his intended remarks to at least veto a joke in which he called the vice president. vice president harris, the c-word, something that elon musk actually doesn't a new campaign ad had which tries to make a joke out of it. however, that same adviser says the campaign was not given a draft which included some of the comedian's more decent jokes. and another advisers suggested that no one had reviewed his remarks in full. a lot of advisers seemingly had no idea about this, but it wasn't just say series of racist comments from a so-called stand up. there was this from a radio talk show host you got homeless and veterans, americans,
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americans sleeping on their own feces on a bench in central park but you know, illegals, they get whatever they want, don't they well, there was also this from a businessman in internet personality she's a fake i'm not here to invalidate. >> are she's a fake of fraud. >> she's a pretender. her and her pimp handlers will destroy our country in case you missed the implication there. he's calling the vice president, united states and democratic candidate for president and prostitute as for the candidate that he is supporting, trump wasn't so spineless. he might have served on the podium and criticized some of what his warm back at warmup acts were spewing out. but of course he didn't. he called harris as he often does a low iq individual oh call massachusetts senator elizabeth warren or racist slogans, native americans, repeated lies about hurricane relief such as this one which have led to threats against hurricane relief workers they,
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haven't even responded in north carolina, the haven't even respond that there's nobody they don't see any female. you know why they spent their money on bringing in illegal migrants. so they didn't have money for georgia and north carolina and alabama and tennessee and florida and south carolina. they didn't have any money for them they spent all of their money on bringing in illegal immigrants and flying them in by beautiful jet planes by now, for all the times, he has said that lai must sound almost like background noise marking the sixth anniversary of the mass shooting at pittsburgh's tree of life synagogue. >> first gentleman doug emhoff made a case for why he thinks it should not be he demeans immigrants with the same hateful slurs hurled at our ancestors. vermin, animals who poison the blood of our country he escaped god's jewish voters right to our faces, saying that if he loses, it will be the
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fault of jews he looks at adolf hitler's generals and see something to admire just let that sink in there's the first gentleman earlier today, tonight, the harris campaign put out a new ad referring to the slogans puerto rico. >> here's part of it. >> a floating island of garbage in the middle of the ocean. i think it's called puerto rico, who had to recall i will never forget what donald trump did he abandoned the island and offered nothing more than paper towels and insults puerto rican deserve better joining us now our team cnn political analyst and commentators david axelrod and new york times, astead herndon, republican strategist scott jennings and republican strategist ana navarro, who is a harris supporter. >> these days david, i mean, it seems like the trump campaign is fine with this other than trying to disavow one comment about puerto rico. well, you know, disavowal of any kind from the trump campaign is unusual. so i think at some acknowledgement that this was,
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this did not go off the way they they hoped it would go off the way possible. >> i mean, i don't know because to me it was like like this bizarro open mic night at some sort of hate-filled comedy club where a bunch of people just stood the up and said the most tasteless things that they could say. >> and i don't i don't know why they think that might help their campaign. i really do think they're going where trump can draw a big crowds because he measures everything in terms of how big they are crowds and ratings and so on. and so that's why they're ending up in place. this is that aren't necessarily battleground states but i don't think this is a marginal race. anderson, anything can tip this race. and something like this heading into the final week of the campaign is unhelpful to them. and i think unwise and i mean, you're jd vance saying that people need to quote, stop, quote, getting offended at every little thing is this much ado about nothing
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jokes going around the internet about how jd vance had sex with a couch if he doesn't want to take offense at that, that's his >> i'm going to take offense at people calling my community trash. i'm going to take a fence at people making jokes about black people. i'm going to take a fence at people calling the first woman who might be precedent, a prostitute. i'm going to take offense at all of that. jd vance is free to do whatever he wants, but listen, this idea that this doesn't reflect donald trump is simply false. let us just remember what donald trump has been saying for the last few days. he's been throwing around the term about how immigrants have turned america into the trash can of the world. that trash word came out of his trash mouth. and let us remember that
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donald trump treated puerto rico like trash. let us remember the way he threw paper towels at needy people after hurricane maria. the second class response to maria in comparison to the red states that have gotten hurricanes that same year. let's remember when it was reported that he talked about trading puerto rico or selling it off, trading and for greenlit, this should not come as a surprise. i've been saying it for years. donald trump is a racist. if you are voting for him, does that make you a racist? that's up to you, but it does mean you are okay with racism. and that is why this comedian said this because he knows it is okay with donald trump. and it is okay with that crowd, which is why donald trump took the stage, the podium 4.5 hours after the comedian had made those tasteless jokes when it was already a five alarm fire, every major puerto rican star
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had come out and condemned it republicans in florida had come out and condemned it. but donald well, trump took that podium and was incapable of saying one word against those racist comments because he believes them. >> scott, i know you were critical earlier today with the so-called comedian said, i want to play another clip of trump's rally. this is part of what tucker carlson sent to warm up the crowd it's gonna be pretty hard to look at us and say, you know what? kamala harris, she's just she got 85 million votes because she's just so impressive. as the first samoan malaysian low iq former california prosecutor ever to be elected president i worked in the bush, any white house or close ally, senator mitch mcconnell, i mean, none of them would come within 100 miles of this stuff. >> does it? >> and they make you sad that this is what a republican rally sounds like a week before the election i don't like it. i don't like it one bit. i'm not
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going to sit here and pretend like it's good or helpful. ms some of the things that were said by some of these people who had never heard of before maybe it works on a podcast, maybe it works on a radio show. but when you're trying to win an election and you're trying to put on a face for your party and for your presidential campaign it doesn't work at all. i mean, it's stupid, it's a distraction. i'm sure from what the trump campaign wanted to do and if that could be looked at their tv ads from sunday that they released, then you listen to what trump said at the rally. it's clearly not on the same mentioned. they want to talk about the economy and immigration. not all this stupid stuff, but i'm also let me put my strategist hat on here for a second. i'm also not going to pretend that if you've lived for the last nine years with donald trump and live through everything, everything he said, everything he's done, his presidency, the attacks and everything that's happened is a no-name comedian's comments or a radio host comments or even tucker carlson's comments going to change your opinion for better or worse? i doubt it. and finally, i would just say, if you're offended by this, and i totally think it's a perfectly fine to be offended by it
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because some of the things that were said we're offensive. but if you are offended by this, people from the entertainment industry saying vile and offensive things in the context of politics. kamala harris certainly has entertainment industry supporters that have said violent, offensive things. not all of them are at her rallies. but if you look at some of the lyrics and other production that they've done, it is terrible, violent when offensive. so if we're all going to professionally faint tonight, i would just say, let's introducing the line because i rockets i said it's not all been done. it's not all been done at any of her events right? danny were hurt most vicious, some of her people that are her most ardent supporters have said things about women and domestic violence and the treatment of women and other issues that are truly beyond the pale. so i do think when you're in the entertainment industry, you get edgy. and this is what you get when you put the metro political rally said, i want to play something that trump said at this rally. >> the united states is now an
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occupied country. i will launch the largest deportation program in american history, and i'm here by calling for the death penalty for any migrant that kills an american citizen or a law before officer and when i say the enemy from within, the other side goes crazy becomes a salvo. how can you say? now they've done very bad things to this country. they are indeed the enemy from within but this is who we're fighting i mean, does this help him? >> do you think i think the electoral wins is important here, but probably not sufficient to really get at the scope of what's happening. does this make does this does the kind of hate field bigoted rhetoric coming from donald trump make him invalidated or lose his support for next week. probably not altogether. do you think he'd like scott said, a lot of this has been baked in with trump, but that doesn't mean it's irrelevant. he is an unpopular presidential figure and the anti-trump coalition that democrats have rallied in 2020 and 2022 exist because he
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has made it a central plank of his rhetoric and platform to frankly target others as political opponents. and he does that even on issues that folks agree with put them at the premise law, like immigration, the mass deportations, the language of vermin, the language of focus poisoning the blood of the country is not a, is not a happenstance rhetoric from trump. it's been core to his belief system ideology. and i would say that this 2024 races even more so than 2016 and 2020. what would think that some of the most baffling strategic decision they've made. i think even back to the selection of jd vance, a couple of months ago, that has been that has been tracked to the tucker carlsons to this kind of masculinity ecosystem. they're trying to raise an army of these type of folks. and we know that this is that the harris campaign has been using this. on the other side as a way to rally around their base it's too. and i think the democratic side it's helped more so than this, than the republican david, i mean, it's certainly a reminder. >> people of what the next four years will be like.
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>> i mean, these these folks will be can be, you know, the whitehouse telling jokes. >> i think it's easy to because it is so repulsive to chase some of this rhetoric down. bigger question is, what does it portend? and i think harris has been smart to start raising this question that she started at your town hall. he's coming with an enemies list. i'm coming with a to-do list. my to-do list is going to be your concerns. he's gonna be worried about himself and how he wreaks vengeance and all those he thinks have trespassed on him and i really do think that's the choice that they should focus on. that's the choice the american people should focus. >> they'll take a break next. the vice president barnstorming michigan today, her plans for the final week later, more breaking news with jeff bezos is saying for the first time about the uproar after the paper he owns the washington post did not endorse a presidential candidate for the first time since 1976 special coverage begins tuesday, november 5 at four on cnn. >> i want trophies on the wall,
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from this madison square garden event? back to the harris campaign that the message here tonight from the vice president was leaning on michigan voters to vote early. >> she pledged to do all that she could if elected to pursue policies to bring down the cost of living there was another notable moment tonight when young people were protesting over gaza. that's not unusual. that is a regular occurrence of democratic events, but what struck me is what she said in response to them. she said unlike the former president, i don't believe in the enemy from within. we are all here fighting for democracy and i understand your desire to be heard, but listen here in ann arbor, a heavily democratic county, she's trying to drive up the numbers in places like this one across the state. president biden won this county by over 50 points in 2020, she is trying to replicate that success eva mckend, thanks so much back now with the panel, david, where do you where do you think the races i honestly
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i just was reading a piece and your papers saying that trump aides were quietly i mean harris aides were quietly getting more optimistic. >> i think it's a dead even race. i think you see these models analytic models that have trump ahead by a whisker, but that essentially is a tied race. i think all these battleground states are well within the margin of error. so i, you know, i think it's going to come down to who mobilizes their vote. it's going to come down to whether there are in fact republican voters and white non-college women who are not saying that they're going to vote for harris, but are going to vote for harrison. it's going to be whether black voters and young voters and hispanic voters approximator come close to some of the numbers that biden produced in 2000 and 20 and those are all open questions right now, i said, you're just wearing georgia. yeah. what do you what
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do you see out there it feels like to david's point to 72, 68 race, something that's really close. i think i group's he identified are certainly the ones to look for from the shift 2020 until now, can harris rally around are working class? multicultural base that did seem to sour on biden can trump kind of get out those lower propensity voters or make his losses in the suburbs lesser than they were in the midterms. and i think those are kind of big open questions here, but which campaign would you rather be? would you rather be the campaign who's candidates tonight in atlanta, trump is clarifying, i am not a nazi or would you rather be? you campaign and harris, that is landing their message knows their targeted voters and has actually feeling pretty good about it as the, as the waste gets closer and closer before the harris campaign, even back when there was the biden campaign, they believe that as election day got nearer, donald trump would reremind america of his extremism. last night's rally, did that for them? and that is their plan of how they close the deal in this race is to regular recreate those type
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of coalitions we saw in the midterms based on donald trump's own kind of in-kind donation on that front last night they got that. >> and other foreign person went after michelle obama during his rally in atlanta tonight. i just want to play this you know, it's nasty to me michelle obama and respectful oh, she opened up a little bit of a little bit of a box. >> she opened up a little bit of sap. the issue is nasty >> that was a big mistake that you made the list. i mean, it's so interesting that just think there's no new tricks in with this guy has, i mean, the whole nasty thing is something he's just gone over again and again. any woman, particularly black woman is, it's a word he
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uses. it's like he's just playing to type well, what can i tell you? >> we all know he's got very few words to play with. but i think he brings home the point that barak obama has been talking about when he talks about trump. here he is this billionaire with all of these other and all he does is whine and complain and bid jim moan and he's the victim and the woe is me. but what i sido you listen i understand. you know what you missed in the litany of things that you did in the beginning of the racist things that captain last night they introduced byron donalds, the black congressman from florida trump supporter, to the tune of dixie land, the unofficial anthem of the confederacy. you miss that one in your long list. i know that it's easy to miss with so many other things, but going on, listen, i think yesterday was manna from heaven. yesterday was the october for surprise because
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what the it reminded people of what they had forgotten, the chaos, the ugliness, what donald trump does, and emboldening in permitting racism and bigotry and division. and i think it does matter because character does matter. and tomorrow you're going to see a huge it's contrast with kamala harris laying out her final comments scott, i mean, where do you think the races well, i actually agree with david. i think it's exceedingly close you know, there's a lot of republicans that i talked to who seemed to take it as an article of faith that he's going to, meaning trump is going to overperform his polls just the way he did in 16 and 20. and he might, and you might be right, but you don't know that. and so i would just caution that it feels close to me. i also feel like trump has had a pretty good dark tobar and he's tracked down this race and harris was ahead at the beginning of the month and he's now effectively caught up. i do think there's a pretty good percentage chance that if it tips one way or the other, it may tip everywhere,
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not just in a state or two, but it may tip more broadly. and finally, to me, the real october surprise is that kamala harris still can not answer basic questions about where she wants to take the country. she's not gotten any better at this and she got into the race and she's having a real trouble closing her campaign on anything other than a purely negative message on trump. i think the mistake they're making is going fully negative and not telling people what would you do as president? people know what trump would do. he was the president i still think the deficiency in her campaign is that they don't really know what she would do as the commander in chief, david, i mean, do you think that yesterday yesterday attacking puerto ricans? can i just say that yesterday, while people were attacking puerto rican, said the trump rally earlier in the morning kamala harris had released an entire portrait the rico policy agenda putting out all the different items that she's going to do for puerto rico to help the people apollo rico and bring some equity. so she is working
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hard on agenda and the interview talking about who's who are the ones making jokes and doing racism and division look in the mirror, but i mean david, this idea that she has no plans, he has all these i mean, it's ludicrous. >> know, in fact, i think she's she's released more voluminous program to deal with housing and the cost of elder care and a whole range of things that touch on people's lives and in fairness to scott's point or at least in fairness to her, the trump campaign has not run a positive ad and this whole campaign since she got in the race, every single ad has been aimed at taking her the down i've said before that the challenge for her is she has introduced herself and fend that off. but i think the frame is there, which is she's put she is talking about things that touch people's lives will improve
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people's lives. and he is engaging in a thoroughly negative campaign is somewhat think the plans discussion is two too small though for harris is big problem in this race. i think if democrats have a challenge, they have to overcome is that they are tied to the status quo and what feels like a change election. you can put out policies to kind of project how you're different than that. but i think the biggest thing that is really weighing them down on that question was they spent two years defending joe biden and the defendant dang a status quo administration. that's really unpopular. and so there are still playing catch up on the new way forward question. that is the, that is the litmus test that she laid out for the question those inner question at the end of the day for voters is, are they voting on change from biden's policies or change from trump's politics. and i think that's why this is such yesterday, we gotta go astead herndon, david axelrod. thank you. scott jennings, ana navarro as well, coming out and getting out of the latino vote in arizona. john king gives us a firsthand report and the door-knocking efforts there by the harris campaign, part of his all over the map series. next
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all over the map series which examines the race through the experiences of key voting blocks and battleground states battlegrounds, nice to meet you. my name is megan i'm with lecia living united for change in arizona. >> one handout promotes the arizona ballot initiative, expanding abortion rights the other promotes kamala harris and democratic candidates for the senate and the house. >> do you think that your voice has power in this election? >> lucek canvassers are at 600,000 door knocks and counting they encourage early voting. >> you know, where your polling location is many of the targeted homes or latinos who are registered, but don't always vote so most common question you get at a door,
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knock about the vice president and the most common question we got to door-knock is why kamala why come on and my answer to that is like she's not a felon one. >> she's a strong woman. and has a latino man we like strong women and we don't like weak man audio rodriguez volunteers for lucha and also runs a community farm and food bank. >> he is upbeat about harris, his chances here it says encouraging younger voters to turn out is one big need in this final week, you do get the folks who are like kind of like feel hopeless, but then you got to bring them back in. you get folks who say like voting doesn't matter. my vote doesn't matter. and to my response to that is like whether you believe it matters or not, it's still exist. and so why not participate in it? put your we've always seeing their your to $0.02 to tucson is in deep blue pima county. biden's giant 2020 edge here was critical to winning the state by just 10,000 votes. >> nikki is one of our biggest selling camera. >> varga is a lifelong republican who came to tucson
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30 years ago from san diego she thought she lived in a blue pocket of a red state. did it surprise you in 2020 when biden won arizona barely really surprised me. >> i was not expecting that varga owns to candy shops, to food trucks, so she can provide jobs for individuals with special needs occluding her son's she says housing and other cost of living are up. her gut says, trump is stronger this time. i feel that trump's ahead, but i felt that way in 2020 as well. so it's hard to say, you know, i feel that i have had more friends that are open to trump and are flipping to a trump vote. >> and the local friends who are doing that, do they cite a reason the border and the economy as people are having a hard time putting food on their table and gas in their cars. >> and that's really affecting them. so i think that they now think about their vote and how it will affect their household
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come up when talking with voters in arizona about their top concerns in every conversation and us, not only here in arizona, but across the country. >> let me just show you have the mini magic with me. this is the 2020 election map, but let me bring up this graphic. it is stunning when you take a look at it. this is the cost of living. an analysis it's this across the united states. if you look closely at the graph, the darker the shading in any county is where the cost of living, housing, food prices, other prices have outpaced wages over the last six years or so. you see all that dark in there. those are places where housing costs energy costs, and more have outpaced what you're getting paid in your paycheck. so let's zoom in on arizona. look how dark this status most of the counties filled in a more dark including maricopa county where i am right now, more than six in ten arizonans live here in marokopa county. and look how punishing the cost of living had been. so that is the headwind facing vice president harris. turn on the tv here, turn on the radio here. she's right hunting ad saying her plans as you were just discussing with the panel, would help with this. another
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thing that might help her though anderson is also the conversation you just happening. there's no question the cost of living is her headwind, but they're also to critical voting groups here that are often put off by trump's rhetoric. and that is latinos and moderates in the fast-growing suburbs here. so arizona, it's just a fascinating test case as we get into the final days and have harris wants to duplicate biden's 2020 win in arizona. where does she have to perform? >> so let me show you something else. we come back to where we were earlier today. let me stay in arizona. let me blank this out for you here. so if you look at the state, if you come back, joe biden flips this by 10,400 votes, right? it doesn't get much closer than that in a state that in reliably red. so you can look at, again, maricopa county is six in ten people in the state live here. so that's really going to focus, that's where both campaigns are focusing. but look how close it was in maricopa county 50.3 to 48.1? yes. joe biden won by a bit there, but where you saw those voters in that piece, that was here in pima county, look at the margin here this is a big blue area. this is where harris has to turn out the vote biden
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heading 90,000 plus advantage in that one one county won the state by 10,000. so you have to go with a democratic voters are, and you have to turn them out. and that's why those canvassers are going door to door especially at latino households who vote sometimes, but not always. >> all right. john king stay with us just ahead. we want to dive into the early vote count already tens of millions the americans have voted. what are those numbers tell us and more breaking news, billionaire jeff bezos is new op-ed and his newspaper, the washington post. his first comments on the anger over the papers late decision to not publish a presidential endorsement or brian stelter joins us ahead. >> have i got news for you saturday at nine on cnn the emergency crystals pomp and fears when you throw them back and who doesn't love a good throwback? days of winter, if you're shopping for a home, you couldn't grasp or ever defined everything they wanted or compare home values, lot sizes
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trying to just put the contacts are in context of the significance the early vote well, listen, we saw a revolution of early vote in the pandemic four years ago, anderson and i don't think we will see early vote make-up as large of a share as it did four years ago. >> but i think we'll see it make-up as large of a share in any presidential election other than 2020. in the height of the pandemic but we will see some shifting to more people participating on election day than we saw as a share of the overall vote back then john, the party, which party is participating more in early voting? >> do we know well, that's the fascinating democrats are still participating more. >> but if you go state by state, by state, and david can correctly, there may be some exception to this, but i don't have an arizona going tomorrow to nevada in both of these states the republican percentage of early voting is up at this point in the election over where it was in 2024? no. 2020, excuse me, no surprise there because
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remember, donald trump spent all of 2020 saying mail-voting was early voting, mail voting was open to fraud. of course, it's not that republicans are trying to get their voters out earlier. the big question is, are they getting new voters low-propensity? city voters who might not show up, otherwise, or people just enjoying the convenience of voting early. so they don't have to wait in line on election day. we're not going to know the answer to that question. are we getting a lot of new voters or a lot more republicans just now getting more comfortable with voting early, we won't know that until actually several days after the election when you get final turnout and all of that. but i will tell you quickly though, this helps the campaigns this becomes a giant test of the turnout. the get out the vote operations. because if you vote early, that's a public record. so they know you have voted so then they go knock at the next test for somebody who hasn't voted. we know the harris campaign labor unions that progressive group you saw me with my piece in the last block earlier today in pima county, they know what they're doing. they have deep experience at this. trump has largely contracted his game south to vote operation out. maybe they're great, maybe there'll be perfect. we don't know that yet, but we know the democrats and their allies have great experience at this. it allows you in the age of big data to
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note that person's voted, we don't need to knock at that house. we need to get that other one. let's keep going. let's keep texting. let's find that person and get them to vote david. i mean, as john mentioned, the republican party's position early voting is higher, but that doesn't necessarily mean there will be higher republican turnout overall right? it doesn't. and this is as johnson, this is the question i asked political operatives, i speak with every day right now, which is you are tracking these voters. do you know, as we do? see, you just put up the pie charts, anderson, we saw back in 2020, republicans at this stage, eight days out in arizona were 34% of the votes that had already been cast now i think it's up to 43%, so yes, we are seeing republicans participate in greater numbers, but i ask operatives all the time. you know, if they are just shifting from election day voters too early voters, or if this is new republican voters coming into the fold. and right now, i will tell you that democratic operatives tracking this both
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in the harris campaign and in other democratic statewide campaigns, they think state-by-state, they just see republicans participants bidding early. the reliable republican voters. they don't yet. so they claim, and as john said, we won't know the actual answer to this until election day. they don't yet see in their tracking that these are new republican voters. these low propensity voters that donald trump has a proven ability in 16 and 20 to get out into the fold than be part of his coalition john, how does it feel on the ground there >> i just kind of bring up there any magic again to show you, but now i was with canvassers today in pima county. we see a lot of democratic canvassing. we do not see a lot of republican canvasser that we could be missing it. we could be missing it, but democratic cares campaign, it's progressive allies. they're out there all the time. >> pima county. joe biden won it by i 90,000 votes. democrats need to maximize turnout. there, right? maximize turnout in this state. but the last time we were here, not on this trip, we were in pinellas county. if you see that that's a county donald trump won with 58% of the vote. but we were out with democratic canvases. a
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lot of latinos, they're who are low propensity voters. and again, if you get to them early and get them to vote, then in the final hours final days of a campaign, you can dedicate your resources elsewhere. that's why early voting is so important. if you can take people off the table, then it's a much smaller universe that you're targeting, knocking on the doors, trying to get out to vote. and so this is a giant test of both the tried and true democratic operation, which had a lot experienced in 2020 and is built from that. and this new trump operation that we're not going to but whether it works, but i'll tell you when you're out in neighborhoods, you don't see them much. >> they've challenged john king, thanks so much now to an incredibly important court hearing today for what remains of rudy giuliani about whether he'll be able to keep his million-dollar residents in palm beach, florida or senior crime and justice reporter katelyn polantz joins us with the latest so what happened in court today, kaitlan? >> well, in court, this is ruby freeman and shaye moss go into court and trying to get access to the things the judge have has not allowed them to get access to yet because giuliani has put up legal arguments. so are already they have been
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awarded by this judge in federal court in manhattan, giuliani's condo on the upper east side. it's worth about 6 million, are gonna be able to sell that off, collect that money. a lot of other luxury items he has two dozen or so watches, a rolex things. he got his gifts after 911. but what he's fighting about in court still so is a condo he owns the only other property he owns. it's in palm beach just down the street from mar-a-lago where he spent quite a bit of time. it's worth about three-and-a-half million dollars and giuliani argues, he lives there now, there's been quite a question for some time when did he start living there and even today in court, his lawyers couldn't identify the exact de that's going to be a question they're going to have to identify and it will matter whether he can keep it because if he if it is where he lives, he can keep it in florida. and the other thing he's trying to hold onto are things of quite a lot of sentimental value to him for world series rings, when the yankees won in the 90s and then 2000, his son andrew
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giuliani claims that he was given to them by his father even though rudy still wears one from the subway series, that all four should be belonging to andrew giuliani. and then out of the hands of ruby freeman and shaye moss, but they're going hard to get everything. and there's a deadline tomorrow that came up in court as well. that they're going to get all this information. or all of these items, giuliani is also in the news because what he said at madison square garden last night, just want to play some of that and then they indicted him four times. i had to stop if they indicted him one more time, he'd have been elected by acclimation know. i'm not going to do conspiracy and i'm not not going to do conspiracy. but it's kind of funny that they tried everything else. and now they're trying to kill him they better not try again is it
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clear what standing this guy has in trump's orbit? >> i mean, well, because he asked trump for money while back. >> yeah. and he actually claims that the trump campaign never paid him for his work as a lawyer. and ruby freeman and shaye moss can sue the trump campaign now, theoretically, to get that too billion-dollars they owe to giuliani, but at this time, he's not a top surrogate, but he's still out there for donald trump and, you know, anderson, it's important for us to just remember what this court case is. this is the consequence of what rudy giuliani did as donald trump's lawyer after the last election spreading information about election fraud in georgia, speaking about these women in a way that caused them a severe amount of intimidation and threats from trump supporters. he was disbarred as an attorney. he's being sued by other people who haven't gotten to the point of having 150 million judgment against him so it's just a reminder of the harm that these women have
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faced and why they're being owed $150 million, by giuliani gave him poland's thanks so much. >> appreciate it. well coming up next, more breaking news. jeff bezos speaking out on his newspaper, the washington post, not endorsing a presidential candidate for the first time in nearly 40 years, is he in the paper faced backlash for that decision wracking the whole country is on the edge of their seats unprecedented. this race could not be any closer an election like no other. and it all comes down to we can now make a major projection of election night in america from the first votes to the critical counts. >> a lot of us thought that had come down to this. >> one see you then bring it to you special coverage begins tuesday, november 5 at four on cnn and streaming on max we always love taking care of our home. but last year, grandpa here broke his arm. we realized somehow maintenance jobs aren't worth the risk.
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decision that the paper not endorse a presidential candidate this year. this is thousands washington post readers cancel their subscriptions and at least three members of their editorial board quit over the move tonight, bezos wrote an op-ed for the paper with the headline, quote, the hard truth, americans don't trust the news media a note from her owner bezos argues and i quote presidential endorsements do nothing to tip the scales of an election. he adds, what presidential endorsements actually do is create a perception of bias and perception of non-independence ending them as a principal decision. and it's the right one. joining us with more cnn chief media analyst, brian stelter it's interesting that he wrote this presented lynch george motz do nothing to tip the scales of an election, is that this is about for bezos, it might be, and this might be the right decision. but at the wrong time and he acknowledges in his note tonight, by the way, i've never seen him write an essay like this. it's a reaction to the unprecedented pressure the post is under. but i think he wrote this tonight because tens of thousands possible, even hundreds of thousands of describers have bailed on the post and the past
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few days, even more might do it in the days to come out of a fear that he's capitulating to donald trump, that he's giving into trump. bezos's saying that's not the case. he's doing this and says principle decision, but he's doing all the eve of an election. and that's really the issue at the heart of this. he acknowledges maybe he had some for timing. maybe you should have announced announced this earlier, but he's doing it because he wants to win back people's trust over time in the short-term though, he's lost a lot of his audience's trust, the, he also wrote, there's, there's no quid pro quo of any time, or there's no quid-pro-quo of any kind is at work here. that's a quote the head of is blue origin had met with trump apparently on the day the announcement was made, he says he didn't know about that meeting and it was an unfortunate a total coincidence that right. >> a person close to bezos says, no, there's nothing to do with it. >> there's no quid pro quo here's the thing. there's hard pressure. a quid pro quo a deal with trump, and then there's a form of soft pressure and the real concern i'm hearing from post reporters from editors, from columnist is it that the form of soft pressure being applied here, the author volunteer on a timothy snyder has talked for years about the
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idea of obeying in advance that in democracies that are studying towards autocracy as people tried to obey in advance that wealthy businessman immediate leaders, that powerful people start to give in to the aspiring authoritarian whims in advance. and that's exactly the concern that exists here. in fact, snyder came out over the weekend, said that's what he thinks is happening at the washington post and the los angeles has said who he would vote for in this election. >> he has not. but the paper under bezos, when he owned the paper, did endorse hillary clinton in 2016 and endorsed joe biden in 2020. strangely anderson, the paper actually endorsed the maryland senate democrat candidate for the senate just four weeks ago. so this sudden change in endorsement, it's the timing that's created some controversy. >> the owner of the los angeles times sudden not to endorse as well? >> yes. and there has been the same kind of fallout, not quite as many subscriber losses, but there as well more than 10,000 subscribers canceling subscriptions basically an active protests. the only kind of protests that an audience member can have if you're paying for a publication, you can back out and the fear at both the la times and the washingtos
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