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house to diversify the artifacts in the white house, to make sure that there was representation within the white house. but nevertheless, i think the reason why she's going to close out there because again, i think it drives the point that this is who we are as a nation, that we invest in each other, that we create opportunities in environments in which we can all thrive. that's what, how are represents that's what it was for her. and i think that's who she's going to be as our next president. >> well, we have seven days to go to see what will happen and what will happen that very night. ashley etienne. thank you so much for being here i'll be eager to see that bus with thurgood marshall as well on her office and look at that as well. look, fans taking matters into their own hands in game four of the world series tonight. look as the bottom of the first inning, yankees player gleyber torres >> as hitting a long flight ball heading for the stands. dodgers outfielder mookie betts
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leaps up for the ball. he makes that catch then come in the yankees fans. one tries to rip the gloves off of beds, his hand another firmly holds onto his wrist well, cheering when the ball drops from bets as glove. but it all backfired because the play was ruled out as fan interference and they were removed from the stadium. >> it was their los the yankees pulled off an epic comeback scoring 11 runs and forcing a game five dodgers in the show with one piece of advice. >> watch out for those yankee fans thanks for watching. >> erin burnett outfront is next news. >> kamala harris about to make one of the biggest speeches of early live, the closing arguments. one week exactly before election day in front of what it looks like, it could be her biggest crowd so far we're
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live on the national mall and we'll bring you harris live plus trump calling his madison square garden rally, a love fest his honor, he says to be involved. of course, that's the same rally where the comedian insulted latinos and pras and graphic terms and taking on elon musk, the district attorney who is suing musk for that voter lottery of $1 million a day, asking a judge to speed up the case so what could happen? let's go outfront and good evening. >> i'm erin burnett and outfront tonight, the breaking news, kamala harris is about to take the stage for her closing message in this campaign, we have just obtained parts of her speech in which she will say, donald trump is unstable donald trump has a list of enemies that he plans to put in jail, but she he will give those who disagree a seat at the table. and this is a live picture of where harris will be speaking in just a few moments happening in a historic spot because you can see behind the podium where she'll be standing was at the ellipse and wash lips and washington, dc, that she will have the white house behind her
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now, this spot, this angle paul, is exactly the same one donald trump had on january 6. >> he before some of his crowds marched on the capitol. >> but of course he had the white house behind him, the power of that day and place harris now choosing for herself tonight and the crowd tonight, huge police say they're expecting upwards of about 52,000 people add harris's speech and that number is not just on an absolute basis, huge, it's also relatively much more than the campaign than anticipated they'd initially applied for a permit of 7,500 people a week ago then they upgraded it to 20,000, then they up again to 40,000 police, as i indicated, are expecting many thousands more than that and as i said, we've gotten parts of harris's speech. she spent the day editing it. she plans to say about trump and i quote from what we've obtained, he has an enemies list of people he intends to prosecute. and quote, he says one of his highest priority, free the violent extremists who assaulted those law enforcement officers on january 6, and then
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she will go through who specifically providing these adjectives for trump, unstable, obsessed with revenge, consumed with grievance and out for unchecked power. now of course, this is a message sure, to satisfy the democratic base and voters who already dead set on voting for harris to think this is all about turnout but the harris campaign says no, that the goal tonight is actually still to persuade, still to sway undecided voters and that they aim to do that with what they are billing as an optimistic and hopeful message, which from the parts of the speech we obtained seem to come where harris writes and i quote, i pledge to seek common ground and common sense solutions to make your lives better. i'm looking seemed to make progress. i pledge to listen to experts and two people who disagree with me unlike donald trump, i don't believe people who disagree with me or the enemy, he wants to put them in jail. i'll give them a seat at my table. again, that's a quote from the speech that we anticipate harris will be giving. and of course that's coming up in just a few moments here. so first let's go to priscilla alvarez outfront in washington enten at the harris rally. and priscilla
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obviously, thousands of people gathering. we're told maybe it could be upwards of 50,000. what are you seeing there now >> erin, they had amended their permit to reflect that what i have seen over the last several hours is indeed a lot of people filling in the area see some of that behind me, but we can also see to the national mall where there are people gathered. we can tell just how many, but certainly people tuning into these remarks, which is exactly what the harris campaign won its senior advisors recognize this may be the last opportunity for her to deliver a major address, both to the audience here in the capital but all but also to americans who are tuning in. so far we have heard from people who have been impacted by multiple policies. we get on small business or health care or reproductive rights? all of the issues that the vice president is expected to touch on tonight. but erin, of course, where we are is notable. it's the ellipse, it's a former president donald trump delivered his fiery speech it's on january 6, 2021 before his supporters stormed the u.s.
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capitol. their advisers to the vice president wanted that gravity to come through tonight. what she delivers her remarks, but they also wanted degrade a visual the white house of course, is behind her to about 500 yards from the oval office office that she is seeking and walshe is here she is expected to draw that stark contrast essentially paint to voters that they couldn't be the former president who is consumed by revenge according to the vice president. or it could be heard, she's going to paint her vision on all of the policies i mentioned the economy, immigration, reproductive rights. one source describing it to me as a crystallization of her argument. this argument they hope is going to reach the undecided voters, those voters who are still on the fence that may include this disaffected republicans. you'll note, as you entered me, hear that she talks about a seat at the table. that is the message her campaign wants. tonight is that she can be a candidate for republicans independents and democrats. so certainly the vice president over the last
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several hours, i'm told has been revising her speech, making those final edits, i see presents her case and lead the force on her background as a prosecutor to do exactly that. erin right. >> to make the closing argument is they're saying which of course is the appropriate terminology with her? professional background, right? priscilla, thank you very much and as we await the vice president, kamala harris is gonna be speaking any moment here. we anticipate the ellipse. as i said, we are going to bring that live. it's your closing argument everyone's here with me now. david, does this sound like from just the excerpts that we have and they're just excerpts we anticipate it's going to be a little bit longer than the stump speech that she has been given, which has been running sort of 18 to 22 minutes and very consistent, this is going to be a little longer. we anticipate over half an hour. does it sound like the closing argument she needs to make? >> well, look, the excerpt to excerpts we're very much focused on her critique of trump i think that if that's all she does, know, i don't think it's the closing argument. she needs to make that clear. julie, they're planning to do more. i thought erin last week when she said he's going to come with an
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enemies list. i'm going to come with a to-do list was a very effective frame. now, she has to fill in that to-do list, and she has to make the case that these things are not going to happen with a president who's consumed by his own self-interest and by demonizing all of the people he has to work with. i will work with people to get these things done that we'll touch people's lives if that's the message, i think it's the right message. >> so i said i see people there. now this is just one angle that we're looking at, but they have usa that's been handed out, right. as opposed to harris-walz, right? that's the point she's trying to make, but she is for everyone. i mean, i'm just reading into the he signs that. i see that that's what the campaign wanted to hand out. what about the turnout though they start with 7,500 then they up at 20 than they up at 40. now police are saying more than 50,000. what are you learning about? just sort of, that metastasizing of that number. >> i think it reflects the growing confidence that is kind we see in this harris campaign, they feel like they are landing their argument. they're talking about the issues they want to and they're doing so on the
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terms because donald trump is frankly gifted them after the rally in madison square garden they want to be to have a message that can appeal to independents republicans, and they have made this ideological pivot pretty clear. her campaigning with liz cheney, i think was the clear indication that they see there morris direct path is recreating the type of anti-trump coalitions that have come out for democrats consistently consistently in the last midterm and the last presidential election. but to david's point, it won't just be anti-trump. and i think that's a lesson democrats have learned from 2016. they want to make this a referendum. on the other guy, but they want to also say that that his distractions, his grievances, stop him from providing for american people. and that's the thing that she will do most clearly. so it's a pivot is an anti-trump message for the west one that's coupled with tuple, and that's the way that i don't think they were doing for aid and she's trying to that point and what they are the part that they say is going to be the hopeful, optimistic, pardon, again, we'll see how much is in there, but that they put out how unlike donald trump, i don't believe people who agree with me or the enemy he wants to put them in jail. >> i'll give them a seat at my
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table that's what we have here from these excerpts that we've obtained. >> do you think lines like that? >> is there anybody left alissa that is persuaded or moved by hearing that now it's a very small number, but they do exist. here. here's the reality on another network, just an hour ago, nikki haley was interviewed and she said she hasn't spoken to donald trump since june. she critique the madison square garden rally that he did by saying there was no effort to even reach out to women. never never mind. nikki haley, maybe never trump type republican voters. so the seat at the table, i know she's going to appear with some republicans tonight thank you. who've endorsed her, showing that she wants to be a president for all people, showing that she's willing to compromise and is going to be a more bipartisan president than i think a lot of people perhaps have seen her as in the past when she rather previously, i think that's important and i also think twofold optics here, of course, reminding people of january 6 and that rally on the ellipse, but also showing her a woman in front of the white house house and telling americans, we've never done it, but it's okay. i fit in here. i can stand here and i have a place here.
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>> so primetime, the white house is behind her speech full of lines about trump, the unstable that he's obsessed with unchecked power you know, better than anyone. trump knows marketing. he knows innuendo, he knows the power of a place and of course, the echo of this place to january 6 itself. >> so how does he see a speech like this? >> i think they see it two ways. one, i think they think they see it as contrast, right? it is a woman standing in front of the white house. it is kamala harris delivering her closing message, but also nodding to january 6. she will talk about we'll talk about it. i'm sure there will be not even overtures, but direct conversation about it. and it's about chaos in the chaos in this is she's needling donald trump as much as she is making her closing argument. she is at the place that is one of his weakest spots. personally, i think i think it's a sore spot. for her to stand there. and not only deliver the contrasting message and vision and fill out her to do list to your point. but also, it's about trying to get
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him to focus on january 6. this is bait yeah, i think the contrast astead mentioned this, but the contrast hope to strike is pretty stark. >> what they need to do in the next seven days is used donald trump's negative energy against him in a kind of political jujitsu he is modeling for people the thing that can stick concerns them that he's so consumed by rage with his political opponents that nothing will ever constructive will ever get done for people. i will say to alyssa's point, i just want to reiterate a lot of the voters who are hanging out there to the extent there are voters hanging out, there are working class people. they aren't particularly tuned into all the elements of the campaign, but they're very self-interested because their lives are they're scuffling to get a lot out there they're thing has been donald trump may be not my cup of tea, but i did better when
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he was there. that's the thing that trump people have been pushing. she needs to talk to those people and she needs to talk to them about their lives and what she wants to do to help improve their lives. yeah. go ahead. i'm sorry. i'm just saying just saying at a concrete example to the undecided voter part i think about this one guy man, his name was jake and minnesota, we actually watched the vp debate together. >> he's torn between the two candidates, says he agrees with donald trump on economy and immigration, but he agrees with carmel harris on abortion rights and he didn't like january 6, the kind of classic undecided. you see it. i ask them, how are you going to make your decision? and his answer was whichever one of those as matters most to me on election day. and i think this is basically putting it off. >> yeah. >> he says whichever one of those things matters most may come today. and i think that's another effort of this here is to put the worst qualities about donald trump, the worst day of donald trump back in people's heads as they're heading for psychological strategy of recent absolutely we saw beyond the ideology, just the timing of it two puts them on better footing, particularly with those type of
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undecideds. >> i think for those type of undecideds, they are looking at which policy am i feeling in my gut? what what is the emotion that is driving me that day? is it the economy did i spend more at the grocery store at the gas station or is it or is it something more pressing? i also believe that tonight, if there are republicans who are undecided, that his policy versus personality, if there are republicans who are sitting there saying, i don't know if i'm going to vote for donald trump does kamala harris bring out a republican that's unexpected, yes. on people understand about liz cheney and those who have already spoken, is there somebody else that can come out, but also for them, they're saying, man i really liked the policies and the way my life was, but i'm just having a hard time with donald trump. if i walk into the election, if i walk into the polling booth, kamala harris tonight needs to be there. >> and i also wouldn't discount progressives who have been on the fence. >> they're angry over gaza. there are some things they don't like about the biden administration. but when you up the fear factor of donald trump and remind them to more with within a couple of weeks, we could be having president elect donald trump. remember all the things we don't like. this
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also energizes them. she's reaching a number of constituencies, but to david's point, it's not either, or it's ad yes. got it treacherous. >> think this has so much we talked so much about change and who represents change? i think there's two different kinds of changes play here. one is changed, linear change, change from the biden agenda and the trump campaign has tried to make the point that she would be an extension of them. she's talked about where she wants to go, but the other changes changed from trump's style, chance changed from trump's in politics. that is, that is so disrupt and in some ways destructive with hence the setting that our priority is will never be heard. and that's really the change that xi is offering a turning of the page on a style of politics that has that has us at each other's throats in a way that makes progress. >> you're always the point instead where it's you know, you're we're at the end. all right. i mean, in lock, anything can happen in a few days and i know a lot of people
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have already voted, but still things can still happen. still though, choosing to do something like this at this moment because she feels that it is sort of her closing argument, right. the ads are out of control that and i can't imagine the swing-state, you know, people talk about it, but put trump's outspending harris and pennsylvania, but that's it overall in the seven swing state, she's spent nearly 1 billion yeah. >> we just say 1 billion on the kinds of ads that we're all, you know ads are how sat down you know what that says to me. i got out of the business too early impact is a primetime speech like she's about to give verses as they were watching the world series is literally going to go, are you kidding? >> i got to watch that one. >> i think it's about higher to see in charlemagne's i think it's about the aggregate it really, i mean, i think that sometimes these are primetime speeches, two point media direction and introduce things into voters ads that may not have been there to the point about timing going into election day.
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>> but honestly, i think donald trump did they biggest thing that is on the on the timing front two days ago in terms of reminding voters of the seriousness of this race that cut through so they'll type of people who don't really follow politics that closely in a year in which people have intentionally put this election off for as long as possible if there has been a consistent theme of our travels to the last couple of years. it's not even a bit about one candidate or the other. it's been about an electorate who has tried to put this election off for as long as possible, i guess i know you got to go, we should make one point this is kamala harris is event. this is her venue, not the setting, but the style she we saw it at the convention. we've seen it throughout. she makes these big speeches very, very it well. and i think that's another reason they wanted to do their closing i convention was when she you could see it in her eyes when she nailed about the next great american chapter, you could see that she knew she
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nailed it. she delivers something like that with the contrast tonight and a vision. but i mean, it's so, it's so close the persuadable margins are all their far right. >> well, we of course they're going to be there for that as we anticipate it's going to be giving beginning here in just the next few moments, right there again on that stage, mark usa, that she's trying to make this about everyone not just about harris/walz. we do have breaking news here on those live pictures of the national mall tens of thousands right now we do anticipate more than 50,000 and also quote, do no harm from the harris campaign sidelining biden after a series of 11th hour gaps but is that the right call plus trump about to speak in the battleground, state of pennsylvania, as i said, the one state where the trump campaign is currently outspending democrats, an area he is speaking king in tonight where more than half the population is hispanic so a lot is at stake given those racist jokes at the madison square garden rally by that comedian as they've said thing to say and they're mad
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pictures that have washington, dc, the ellipse, the backdrop of the white house. >> that's where vice president harris will be speaking just moments from now, our priscilla alvarez was saying about 500 yards away from the oval office, that will be the backdrop for her prime-time speech to the country tonight, where she will make her case against donald trump speaking from the exact same place where trump's spoke on january 6 before some of his supporters stormed the capitol. we're going to bring you her speech live. but it does come in the context of new polling. and obviously we don't know what's going to happen. so polling's all we've got right now. this is the critical battleground. states of nevada and arizona
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still really, i mean, look at that 48474748, dead heat harris, though, has been making some gains compared to the last cnn polls in the sun belt states. so on those that's been an improvement for her, harry enten is here now, and harry what do you see now versus in those prior polls? and does it show? so a real sun belt path open for harris separate from what happens in the upper midwest yeah. >> you know, i'll tell you this much. all we have is the polls right now, i guess the polls and each other. erin, look, i think the bottom line is this the kamala harris campaign. i believe knows that their best path moves through the great lakes. you know, we've been talking about it, right? you get pennsylvania, michigan, in wisconsin, that gets her 270 electoral votes. but let's say that path starts to fall apart a little bit, right? let's say we take away the wolverine state, right? and that drops are down to 255. but if she wins in nevada and wins in arizona, then she can still get to 272 electoral votes. so winning arizona, nevada leaves that for her, but all so let's
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just say we turn pennsylvania read and wisconsin read. well then trump's still a short to 63 because he loses in nevada and arizona and then of course there's georgia and north carolina. if those go blue as well in the sunbelt, that would get kamala harris to over 270 electoral votes. so the bottom line is this erin, because nevada and arizona are competitive when you can combine that with georgia, north carolina, at leaves a completely alternate path so that kamala harris isn't just relying on the great lakes, right? >> i mean, she has multiple paths as you point out, and even more so, when you suddenly look at states like north carolina, possibly being in play. now, the hispanic vote, obviously there's a lot of talk about that, harry, and it's impossible just tell from any kind of polling at this instant what the impact of that is. but obviously the comedian making a joke about puerto rico calling it a floating island of garbage and insulting latinos in a very graphic sexual context that i have chosen not to play here. but these polls were taken before the rally so can you
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look in there and see any possible ways in which something like those comedian's comments could impact it. >> yeah, i think so because the bottom line is this donald trump has been doing quite well, quite well among hispanic voters. kamala harris has been underperforming with them especially in southwest aid. so this is donald trump. this is donald trump versus the democrat among hispanic voters that took an average of arizona, nevada last time around joe biden won hispanic voters in those states by an average of 24 points now, kamala harris is only up by ten points amongst them. so the bottom line is kamala harris has been doing quite well in arizona and nevada, despite doing poorly among law tina voters, if any of those latino movers were moved by those comments from the rally this past week and it can only help kamala harris even more. so, this is something that donald trump really doesn't want to occur because bottom line, he has been, he's been making inroads with hispanic voters and any loss among them could put arizona in nevada in a harris has column. >> so establish talking about voters who have just been and you know, praying to god, they
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didn't have to deal with the day of voting. and now the day has come, whether the voting early next week and they just are putting it off to see how they feel on that day. he was talking about jake and minnesota. how is it going to feel on that day? so there are undecided voters out there as impossible is that may be for some people who are watching to comprehend, they are out there. what are they looking for? harry? >> yeah, i can't believe they're still undecided voters out there, but the polling tells us that there are. and what do they need to learn more about? well, they say clearly the plurality here, 48% say they need to learn more about kamala harris compared to just 36% who say they need to learn more about donald trump. so i think it's up to harris to win over those undecided voters. they've mostly made up their minds about donald trump the question is, can harris actually convert them and put them in her column? and i think a speech like tonight could go a long way in doing so. >> all right, harry, thank you very much. and i want to go now to democratic congressman steven horsford of nevada, ahead of harris's speech because he's co-chair for campaign and chairman of the congressional black caucus live from where harris will be speaking in washington on that ellipse so just a couple of moments. so congressman
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horsford, in these final moments before she began speaking, when you hear harry talk about the voters of whom 48% say they still need to learn more about harris as opposed to 36% who said the same about trump is there anything at this point that you think harris can say knew that would swing those people or is it just really a matter of emotion and the quote, unquote feels that they may have on election day on erin. look, i know polls are about margin of error, but this election will be won based on a margin of effort and kamala harris and tim walz are putting in a full court effort. and all of the battlegrounds, including my home state of nevada and you can feel it here tonight with the energy and the fact that she's going to talk about a vision for america, how we bring americans together by building coalitions. she has a to-do list. while donald trump
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has an enemies list, her to-do list includes passing an opportunity economy that will lift up all of americans creating economic opportunity to afford to buy a home, to take on corporate dhaulagiri to reduce cost of groceries and childcare and to protect a woman's fundamental right to make decisions about her body. those are the messages that i believe we will hear from the vice president kamala harris. the white house is directly behind her. yeah. and in seven days, the american people get to decide who gets to sit behind the resolute desk at the white house so congressman, you you hail from nevada and that was a trump state that had seemed more solidly in trump territory. >> now a total toss-up according to our latest poll. and kamala harris has made progress there. do you believe she can win nevada? i mean, do you really believe that she can win it or that she's got it?
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>> we're going to win nevada because we have a ground game. we have hundreds of volunteers, thousands. in fact, every day on the doors, on the phones volunteers who are making the effort to make sure that every single vote gets counted. every boat turns out and kamala harris tonight is reaching out to democrats to republicans, to nonpartisans. a third of the electorate in nevada are nonpartisans. and they will determine the outcome. and i believe kamala harris will in fact win nevada and a number of the key battleground states in seven days. >> so i want to ask you because you're obviously co-chair of her campaign, but you are also chairman of the congressional black caucus? about how harris has dismissed concerns that black men are not supporting her campaign strongly enough, concerns that of course president barack obama has what she was on the breakfast club radio show earlier this morning, congressman, here's
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what she said about it. >> the black men in particular who are at the rallies have recently been saying to me, don't you listen to that? and they got to stop with all that noise. we support you. so i'm glad you raised the topic so we could actually deal with the reality of it versus what some of the media is trying to create a narrative now, just to be directed, frank here is not a media narrative. i mean, brock obama has been talking about it. we've seen it in polls what do you think? >> well it's not enough to just talk about black men or talk down to black men. it's important to listen to black men and that's exactly what vice president kamala harris has been doing, not just recently but really throughout her entire career as vice president as united states senator, as attorney general. and that is why after listening to them, she's introduced an agenda that centers the issues
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that matter to black men. the national health equity initiative to take on sickle-cell diabetes and prostate cancer cancer providing forgivable loans for 1 million black entrepreneurs to start and grow a business to help more black homeowners buy a home to build equity and well, these are the things that black americans care about and that's why she's going to win the black male vote. and she's going to win this election in seven days. >> what congressman horsford, i appreciate your time. i know you need to go and she's obviously about to come out on that stage. you can see the for the second gentleman, doug emhoff, there in the audience, as he's come out there, astead obviously she's we anticipate her walking out here any second here on that stage, but her husband's already there oh, yeah i mean, i think this could be an important speech for i think reframes the debate on terms that she wants to do. and i think this is what the campaign has been premised on from the beginning, even back
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when this was the biden campaign reasons, they were dismissive of polls, dismissive of questions about age just because they believed that come the end of this race, donald trump would do the work for them you would remind america about the way he is outside of the kind of norms of the electorate that would drive support to them in the way of drove supported democrats down ballot. now, i think biden's age was probably a complicated question on that but harris is the right vessel for it to be able to channel that message. and we're going to see them tried to land that tonight i know. >> you have a c had grave concerns about biden remaining. you didn't think that he should, but do you think that her but yeah. >> go ahead why does sometimes thinking about other things i've said on there? i'm going to remind anyone over the years, just those those kind of mistake. >> but not using biden in these final days yeah. >> look the truth is what she is battling here is a right track number in this country. people send the countries in 28%. some jaundice about the
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economy. biden's numbers are relatively hello, she is trying to chart a path forward and talk about where she would lead and the trump campaign is trying to assign all of the burdens of biden to her. and so it's understandable why she wants she wants to take center stage. she doesn't necessarily believe that that having the president out there would be helpful because it a bet's the case that trump wants to make. so it's uncomfortable people have affection, people within her campaign and the democratic party have affection for the president. but i think that they are focused on winning an election. >> well, it is one of the strongest arguments that the republicans have had, right? which is that she is the sitting vice president who was involved in the very policy decisions that many americans last person in the room, right? that's what you've heard from the vice president, and that's what the trump campaign is trying to put on her, right. is that people are unhappy with the direction of the country. they're unhappy with the economy. there happy with the policies that have led to
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millions of illegal immigrants entering the united states the american people are saying, we're on having the trump team is trying very hard to say, hey, remember who was the last person in the room. they said it themselves is that going to be compelling enough argument? i don't know because while people understand that they are unhappy with joe biden do they put it at kamala harris? but i mean, honestly, there are so many variable factors. is it going to be the young latino vote is going to be the black vote is going to be the young female vote. is it going to be voters who say that kamala harris is, was the problem with joe biden these are all the questions that every political analyst is going to be asking themselves come election day, which group did we not hit enough on the turnout because this is the critical question right now if i may quickly, is kinda harris does not want for surrogates. >> she has ton she's had governor shapiro in pennsylvania. she's had obama in michigan. she's got folks in georgia shut on a shallow not she's now lapping for people who can go to the right constituencies and sell her message. i actually think a challenge that the trump team, if they lose because might walk away israelis, they never really had that bench that they
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developed if people who can show up in his place, jd vance, to some degree, he's never pulled the crowds or anything near what donald trump can the way that some of these democratic heavyweights have showed up for her. and that's a huge factor as well because there's one of the premises of trump and the whole trump gestalt is there is no unlike him he's the show conflict. >> no one's knowing can take his place. so i mean, it is very much about him. he wants it to be about him and he may he may defeat him so well in 170 8-year-old man can only make it so many places in a certain amount of time. it's just the reality. >> i think that's the important point to go back to nikki haley. i mean, that was because the obvious person who was speaking to a different side of the constituency and as melissa said, to remind anyone who wasn't watching exactly haley earlier tonight says she hasn't spoken to trump since june. june. >> and that she's still waiting for him to be deployed on the trail. i mean, since the democrats, phil in my calendar, if i were candidates switch, i think there was basically two ways this race could have god, they
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could have laid out a new path forward, use it as a chance to break with the administration more and i think they haven't really taken that path. she's made some kind of gestures at that there has been some planning and policy, but i'm not taking the biggest chances and swings at times as she is made to create a made a break from biden, i think honestly, the war or in gaza would have been her biggest opportunity to do that. and her willingness to do that, i think has basically tied them together on the administration fraud without that without doing that, they have made this a kind of anti coalition, anti-trump coalition referendum style race. and she is a better vessel than biden for that for the points about energy for the points about i think like being able so it's to get parts of the democratic base that could not see past age. and so i think yes, donald trump has become the place where this race lives and dies. the main character here. but that's not bad for democrats because since the beginning, they've recognized it repels more folks. >> on your point though. i mean, if if she doesn't win this race, a lot of people go back to the withering examination you guys gave her on the view where she was asked
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if she could not a tough question where she was asked how she would differ and i think the infamous sunday hostin clearly is uncomfortable doing that and i don't think it's because she doesn't have differences with him, but because she thinks it's unseemly to say it, and that could be a costly thing. >> so i think there are two things there, right? i think the easy answer is joe biden did x, but i don't think it went far enough. right. like that's like my weakness is actually a big strength and here is why and here she is she is walking out right now and the crowd has been chanting usa, usa in line with those backwards, which as we said, had been handed out and we can't tell you exactly how many people, but we do know the permanent was up to 40,000 and capital police have been anticipated it as many as ten to 12,000 more. >> it's unclear exactly how many, but she is there is there is a feeding off of a crowd like this. alyssa, just as we did, she is experiencing now, she is. are you about to say crowd size or isn't we know
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that this is there's something to this if it's a show of force the show of strength that's also about triggering donald trump you know, he had his big madison square garden rally and we saw some folks were leaving and also just didn't go well for the folks that stayed. >> so she can pull off a seamless forward-looking message in front of this kind of a crowd. freedom embracing what are traditionally maybe more republican messaging, usa sides. it's your optics. >> so just one thing on the optics real quick. they do great build out. this is probably one of their weakest event build outs. i've seen. it's just not as striking as i would have all alright, banking. >> let's listen to her. >> she is speaking now, the vice president >> good evening. and thank you for taking it's time in your busy life
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so listen one week from today you will have the chance to make a decision that directly impacts your life. the life of your family, and the future of this country. we love most important vote you ever cast. and this election is more than just a choice between two parties and to different candidates it is a choice about whether we have a country rooted in freedom for every american or ruled by chaos and division
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probably already cast your ballots still considering who to vote for, or whether you'll vote at all so tonight, i will speak to everyone about the choice and the stakes in this election. >> look, we know who donald trump is. >> he is the person who stood at this very spot nearly four years ago and sent an armed mob to the united states capitol to overturn the will of the people no free and fair election americans, died as a result of that attack 140 law enforcement officers were injured because of that attack. and while
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donald trump's sat in the white house watching as the violence unfolded on, tell him provision. he was told by his staff that the mob wanted to kill his own vice president and donald trump responded with two words. >> so what is and that's who is asking you to give him another four years in the oval office but to focus on his and donald trump has told us his priorities for a second term. he has an enemies list of people. he intends to prosecute he says that one of his highest priorities is to set free the
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violent extremists who assaulted those law enforcement officers on january 6, donald trump intends to use the united states military against american citizens who simply disagree with him. people. he calls quote the enemy from within america. this is not a candidate for president who is thinking about how to make your life better. this is someone who is unstable obsessed with revenge, consumed with grievance and out for unchecked power trying to keep the american people divided and afraid of each other that is who he is. >> but america, i am here
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tonight to say that is not who we are understood is that e pluribus unum out of many one isn't just a phrase on a downward bill it is a living truths about the heart of our nation our democracy doesn't, he doesn't require us to agree on everything in fact, we like good arguments from time to time. >> just think of your own family, right it's not the american way to not have disagreements we don't shy away from robust debate, robust debate. we'd like a good debate, don't way we like
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disagrees with us does not make them the enemy within classmates, coworkers. >> they are fellow americans. >> and as americans, we rise and fall together been consumed with too much division, chaos, and mutual distrust and it can be easy then to forget a simple truth. it doesn't have to be this way it doesn't have to be this way it is time to stop pointing fingers. we have to stop pointing fingers and start locking arms. it is time to
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turn the page on the drama and the conflict the fear, and division. it is time for a new generation of leadership in america leadership as the next president of united recognize this has not been a typical campaign even though i've had the honor of serving as your vice president for the last four years. i know but i know, getting to know who i am well, let me tell you. i am someone who has spent most of my career
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outside of washington, d.c. so i know that not all the good ideas come from here i am not afraid of tough fights against bad actors and powerful interest because for decades, as a prosecutor and a top law enforcement officer of our biggest state, one fights against big banks that ripped off homeowners against for profit colleges that scammed veterans and students against predators who abused women and children and cartels that traffic in guns, drugs, and human beings and i did this work because for as long as i can remember, i have always had an instinct to protect there's something about people being treated unfairly or overlooked that frankly just gets to me i
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don't like it it's what my mother instilled in me a drive to hold accountable those who use their wealth or power to take advantage of other people the drive to protect hardworking americans who aren't always seen or heard and deserve a voice and i will tell you that is the kind of president i will be you. >> i'm not perfect. i make mistakes. but here's what i promised you i will always listen to you even if you don't vote for me i will always tell you the truth. even if it is difficult to hear i will work every day to build consensus. and reach a compromise to get things done.
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>> and if you give me the chance to fight on your behalf, there is nothing in the world that we'll stand in my way either donald trump or i will be in the oval office would walk into that office with an enemies list when elected, i will walk in with a to-do lists
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done for the american people and i will work with everyone democrats republicans, and independents do help americans who are working hard and still struggling to get ahead i have been honored to serve as joe biden's vice president experiences and ideas to the oval office. my presidency will be different because the challenges we face are different. our top priority as a nation four years ago was to end the pandemic and rescue the economy now our biggest challenge is to lower costs, costs that were rising even before the pandemic and that are still too high i get it. i still remember our mother sitting at that yellow for
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micah table late at night cup of tea in hand pile of bills in front of her trying to make it all work and i've heard from so many of you who are facing even greater financial pressures donald trump's answer to you is the same as it was the last time. another trillion dollars in tax cuts for billionaires and big corporations it with a 20% national sales tax on everything you buy that is imported think about it slows food toys, cell phones trump sales tax that would cost the average family nearly $4,000 more a year. and on top of that you will pay even more if donald trump finally gets his way and repeal the affordable care act which would
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throw millions americans off their health insurance and take us back to when insurance companies have the power to deny people with preexisting conditions well, we are not going back we also know donald trump would deliver tax cuts to his billionaire donors. i will deliver tax cuts to work and people and the middle-class chance not just to get bind, but to get ahead the dignity of work
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federal ban on price gouging on groceries limit out-of-pocket prescription costs for all americans i will fight to make sure that hardworking americans can actually afford a place to live mother's saved up and how excited she was when she could finally afford to buy our first home. i remember how excited she was i know that owning a home is not only a measure of financial security it's about the pride of your hard work as president. i will fight to help first-time home buyers with your down payment take on the companies that are jacking up brands and bill millions of new
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homes america can't build enough housing enough with the excuses, i'm going to cut red tape and work with the private sector and local governments to speed up building don the only financial pressure on middle-class families? i've met so many young people who have a natural desire to parent their children well. but not always the resources to do it so i'll fight for a child tax credit to save them some money children out of poverty
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childcare, which is out of reach for too many working families today and for too. many people in the sandwich generation who are raising young children and taking care of a parent juggling all of it is extremely difficult you know, i took care of my mother when she got sick cooking foods, food that she had a taste for finding clothes that would not irritate her skin and understand as i do that caregiving is about dignity it is about dignity and currently, if you need home care and you don't have some money to hire someone you and your family need to deplete your savings to qualify for help. that's just not right so we're going to change the approach and allow medicare to cover the cost of home care
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and care they need in their own home now donald trump has a different approach he tried to cut medicare and social security every year he was president look, i believe that when people have worked hard their entire life they deserve to retire with the benefits they have earned fundamental freedom of americans to make decisions about their own bodies, not donald trump and his hand selected supreme court justices took away from the women of america
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america think about it. one in three women in america lives in a state with a trump abortion ban many with no exceptions, even for rape and incest the idea that a woman who survives a crime of a violation to her body should not have the authority to make a decision about what happens to her body next, that is immoral that is a moral and trump's not done he would ban abortion nationwide restrict access to birth control, and put ivf treatments at risk. and forced states to monitor women's pregnancies just google project 2025 and read the plans for yourself and look, i think we all know one does not have to abandon their faith or deeply held beliefs to
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simply agree, the government should not be telling her what to do with restore reproductive freedom nationwide, as president of the united states, i will proudly sign it into law politicians have got to stop treating immigration as an issue to scare up votes in an election serious challenge that it is that we must finally come together to solve i will work with democrats and republicans
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to sign into law the border security bill that donald trump killed when i was attorney general of a border state, i saw the chaos and violence caused by transnational criminal organizations that i took on and when i'm president we will quickly remove those who arrive here unlawfully prosecute the cartels and give border patrol the support they so desperately need acknowledge we are a nation of immigrants to pass immigration reform, including an earned pathway to citizenship for hard working immigrants like commander in i will make sure
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america has the strongest, most lethal fighting force in the world has shown his contempt for our nation's heroes calls them suckers and losers called a four marine general a quote, lowlife i will always honor never denigrate the service and sacrifice of our troops and their families and fulfill our sacred obligation to care for them i will strengthen not surrender america's global leadership friends because i know that our alliances keep american people