ground has the same exact question. will it work are they wrong? >> people just don't know? to be clear, opacity is a feature, not a bug when it comes to campaign ground operations, they want to keep how they target, where their data is secret in the leadup to a campaign, we also know a couple of facts here. one, democrats have long held a massive registration advantage in the state of pennsylvania. that's been cut in half since 2020. we also have the early vote. well, doesn't tell tell you who voters voted for. it does say party and republicans are doing better than they did in 2020 when democrats led by about three to one margin at this point. now, it's at a two-to-one margin. we also know the harris campaign has a ground game behemoth in the state more than double the offices of the trump team very, very real effort underway, more than 1 million doors expected to be knocked on just in the coming days. the reality is, you really don't know until we have a winner that will tell you whether it worked or not. air. >> yeah. sure. well, especially if it works

and thanks as always to all of you. anderson starts now kennedy's barnstorming through the battleground states there's late new polling on the state of play and we'll take a look at the latest numbers. >> also ty, just days before the election, new video obtained by cnn of house speaker mike johnson saying if trump wins, he'll work to eliminate obamacare, the affordable care act, which millions of voters rely on. and later, where some trump supporters getting their ir information don't solve it. day watches pro-trump tv to see what some voters are seeing from deep inside the bunker. good evening, thanks for joining us. would just six campaigning days left the candidates are now matching each other state stated across the electoral map the former president is talking right now in green bay, wisconsin, those are live pictures. the vice president meantime, also in wisconsin for an appearance shortly in madison, both she and her opponent were north carolina earlier today. we'll go live in a moment to madison. we're seeing that jeff zeleny has been talking to his campaign sources about among other things, new cnn polling

from wisconsin take a look. it shows the vice president with a six-point lead there, a five-point lead in michigan, both are outside the margin of error in pennsylvania, though it is all even at 48 zena, john king starts us off with more so john, i mean, looking at these numbers, what stands out to you? >> largely positive for the vice president, they show competitive races and all three of these blue wall states, anderson i just show you, bring up my friend to many magic wall is with me here. remember these are the blue wall states, pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin, new polling shows the vice president you noted leads in michigan and in wisconsin, a tie in pennsylvania, why did these states matter? well, joe biden tipton, back to blue in 2020. he's president in 2016, if you go back in election, you know, hillary clinton lost all three of those states. that was donald trump's big surprise. and he was president, the blue wall states have mattered, have been decisive in the last two presidential elections. one other way to look at it as this way, if you look at the vice president's path to 270 electoral votes, if she can hold those leads, this is where we all right now to 262 to 19.

if she can hold those leads in wisconsin and in michigan will look how close she is, right? her path, bam, if she can just get pennsylvania that gets her there right there. so no path is easy, but that is her easiest path to 70 pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin. these polls show us she is less than a week to go so in play to possibly do that, what do we know when when were these polls taken? was this before the trump rally with the slurs against various groups? >> that's an important thing to note. the polls are several. they're taking several days ago and then you take a few days to process them. so events can change things. that's one of the things you're watching. it's also why we will say 100 times, don't ever invest in just one poll. if you averages are great polling team does the recent battleground state polls. it would show michigan and wisconsin a little bit closer than our polling. so you have the question shan, you did we catch a break her way or is it just our polls? we've got a little bigger lead and another one has a different and you average them out but if you look in the weeds of these polls there are some concerns for the vice president among black voters in pennsylvania and michigan there's some good

numbers for the vice president when you look at the suburb. so again, don't invest in over one plus days left this does show her easiest path. go ahead. >> yeah. and just let let's just drill down on those numbers because among likely black voters in michigan, harris gets 83% in pennsylvania, 76%. that's running behind biden in 2020 it is running and it's running significantly behind biden in 2020. now the harris campaign says it doesn't believe that's what's going to happen on election day. and in our travels, we see a lot of emphasis on early voting in the black community, including here in milwaukee today. but i'm showing you philadelphia right now, not just for the percentage. if you want to win pennsylvania as a democrat, you need to do that. but not just the 80% look at the math. you need the high turnout, right? i blocked it out a little bit by scribbling too hard. but you see look at the big number there and they're joe biden wins the state by 80,000 votes. look at that giant margin in philadelphia. it is that margin in philadelphia, which is largely the black community that helps you offset all of that trump bread in the rural areas. so that is a bit of a warning sign in pennsylvania and then if you come over again to michigan where we will be

tomorrow, the detroit area, wayne county is obviously where the black turnout is huge. and again, look not just at the percentage biden got, but the math, the size of the margin helps you win the state. again, the harris campaign thinks it won't be as bad as these numbers would say. but she's running stronger in the suburbs. she's running well among white non-college workers that's something they need to keep an eye on without a doubt. and it's a place with a trump campaign, vows and promises, it will survive, it will surprise us come election day. yeah, to that point, harris is running ahead of both biden and clinton with white non-college educated voters in wisconsin, pulling 43%. >> how crucial is that in wisconsin? >> well, you just mentioned where the former vice president is today the former president, excuse me. so brown county is where green bay, wisconsin is, right? you see that on the map right here. you see his win over joe biden in 2020, right? you see 65,000 votes, 75,000 votes, or roughly 10,000 vote margin there, right? donald trump won the county. why am i focusing on? that margin? joe biden loses again, this state was decided by 20,000 votes both times 2016 and 2020. joe

biden lost that county by 10,000 votes, right? go back in time again. let me move this up a little bit sorry, i have to move to get to 2016 now, i'll come back. let me come back over for you here. now you come back to wisconsin and you go to brown county again in 2016, was the difference look at the bigger margin, hillary clinton loses it by almost 14,000 votes. so the math matters even in places you are losing the margins matter. so if vice president harris is running close to biden's numbers with white non-college educated voters, that makes a difference in brown county, wisconsin, it makes a different and luzerne county, pennsylvania, the margins within the margins he will the small battlegrounds within the battlegrounds states if she can hold that number plus or suburban number just to work on the black voter number. but again, if you look in the weeds of these polls, if our poll is correct heading into the final days. of the campaign, it does show, again, it's not easy. but the vice president's easiest path to victory. anderson is within striking distance and 11, just ask you, i mean, do you you by polls. i mean, i do buy these numbers. i know i know. i mean, there's a lot of great people

work on this and we'll work very hard on it. and i think there's just a lot of distrust of polls. do you at by them? >> i don't invest in them. i use them for trajectory, right? so these, these potia, which, which way is the arrow bending and i study much more, wears the black vote. where's the suburban vote? was the college-educated vote? what are the subgroups tell me then you come out in the travel in the states and you talk to people and you show up at the early voting sites. see what happened. i will say this, this is one of the giant questions in both 2016 and 2020. i just said, these polls of relatively good news for the vice president united states. well, i want to add this caveat in both 2016 and 2020. we know that in the battleground states donald trump over performed his polling numbers in almost every poll. it's so the polls in the end showed donald trump at a point in the battleground, states he ran better than that. now, the pollsters will tell you they've worked really hard to adjust to try to get the trump vote, right? do they have it right this time or will overperform again in the 28,

2018 midterms, the democrats overperformed what the poll said. in 2022, midterms, excuse and we know what happened then the democrats had a much better year than people anticipated. so i don't buy them in the sense that i think they're exactly right. you look at the for trajectory, which ways are going you studied beneath them, write your studied beneath them. so there are tool, they're not everything anderson. all right. >> john, we're going to talk to you later on for drill down and what you've seen in wisconsin today from the wall lucky now in madison in the harris events, you know, jeff zeleny is there for us. jeff, what can we expect to hear from vice president harris >> we expect vice president harris to really take that closing argument on the road. we saw her deliberate last started washington he's been doing it in north carolina, pennsylvania, and expected to do so here in wisconsin, talking about seeking common ground, talking about trying to find common sense solution but it's a very fine line to walk because of the very same time. she's also trying to draw a sharp contrast with donald trump, what she is trying to do

is avoid talking about any of the controversy you've seen on cable news or the former? president talking about those garbage comments. this is something that is not necessarily on the minds of voters so i'm told that vice president harris is going to continue to press the case, how she would be a president for all people, not simply those who vote for her. >> but john, this is get out the vote time perhaps you can hear the rally behind me. >> this is a concert. gracie adams is performing. now, there'll be other performers. >> this is a rally for the people who have voted campaign that was more focused on those who have not. all right. >> jeff zeleny, thanks very much. want to get perspective now from cnn political commentators ashley allison, scott jennings also, gretchen carlson, journalism co-founder of lift our voices ashley, i mean, i don't know what you think about these polls. interesting that i mean, she seems to be this slightly uptake in these latest polls, whether that's real or not,

how do you see the race right now? >> i don't i'm not a big believer in polls, even though when they say things that i like meaning that the person that i think should win, kamala harris is up i haven't been in michigan and wisconsin in this cycle, but i wasn't pennsylvania and i wasn't north carolina. and i think the narrative a little bit, if you're on the internet and twitter, is that it's all trump country out there in the black community is very donald trump heavy. and where just not seeing that the door knockers on that are going on canvases. >> you are canvassing in philadelphia? >> yes. yes. and what we're seeing is there are actually more the decided voters and i would like to believe that they really are and the decision is, am i actually going to go vote? but there are some voters, predominantly more white voters, who are saying, do i want to vote for kamala harris? they are not thinking about voting for donald trump, but they're thinking about maybe sending it out. and i think that that is what you might be picking up in these polls even though i don't think it is telling i think she is has a

fantastic ground game, right now that is trying to convert. and i was just got a report out of arizona that they saw no operation for donald trump on the doors and converting voters. so this really is a turnout game. and the final thing i'll just say is because of the condensed timeline of her her candidacy i think these last 56 days actually do matter. i think the rally in madison square garden does have an impact on people who were going to vote in-person. i think her performance on the eclipse, it does get people excited these new our so many new ads just dropping like at this point, most ads or just package and repackage. but new content is dropping. and i think that is actually touching though some of those undecided voters. >> i think it's, you know what is going to make people feel compelled to go and vote on tuesday or to go and vote early tomorrow and so i would agree with ashley on that side. and so uh feeling so did they feel that watching her at the ellipse, did they feel that

hearing biden with the gaff for trump? i mean, we'll never know, but the one thing in the cnn polls that i thought was incredibly interesting to your point, ashley was how many people are still undecided? you have 6% in michigan, 6% in pennsylvania, 5% wisconsin. that is much higher than i envisioned at this point in time. we're in the weeds in this every single day, and so we hear from people who are, have decided a long time ago who they're voting for. but the idea that people are still making up their minds to my original point of feeling what is it going to be that's going to tip them over the edge and none of bus know the answer to that. >> do you believe these polls? >> i think it's close. i mean, i've i've wondered if if all media outlets are just not taking any polls for the last six months, what will we do with all the mighty? we have an amazing christmas party i mean, i mean, it's a tied race is tied nationally. it's tied in these swing states i think some of these people who are undecided tell pollsters that because they want to have seem like they're discerning but they have a gut feeling about how they feel about certainly donald trump. they may not have as much of a gut about kamala

harris because she's come into the race. lesser known. i agree with actually, i think some people are deciding whether to vote at all. >> i think for trump, it's this low propensity play, a low-propensity. >> men, people who have little engagement with the news, little engagement with their civic affairs in this country. maybe they never vote, maybe they only voted once or twice in their lives. getting them out is obviously vital. and for harris, she has her own cohort of voters that are in the same boat, like people who need to be given a vibe about this. this is going to manifestly impact my life if i don't get out and do this i think ultimately at the end of the race, i agree with gretchen. there is something about these events and the news cycles that give you a certain kind of energy or a vibe about a campaign. i'll just say republicans feel confident. some people are taking it as an article of faith that he will overperform because he did in the last two elections, i would just caution everyone to say, you don't know that he might all right but you don't you don't really know that you cannot take that to the bank so if you're expecting that on

election night, just know it's not something you can necessarily bank, can i have a theory on why there are so many undecided voters? >> i think that for so long, people did not want donald trump and joe biden rematch that when the ticket flip, people just thank i don't know how to do that again, and they just stopped paying attention. now in this very short stretch, it kind of worked to kamala harris favor because it gave her some time to get her footing, but i actually think that's why so many people are still having this question mark. because think about it. most, like most of the time at this point, you would have been hearing from this person for a year one other quick thing i want to say it's not a poll, but actual hard numbers and that is in the battleground states there's a ten-point gender gap. >> yes. now, with women and men, meaning there's more women by far coming out to vote early in the battleground states than men. that's a hard and fast number. we don't know how they're voting, but i think that's significant. >> foreign prison does seem to be laying the ground and work to contest the results. it's certainly in pennsylvania. he post on social media saying

pennsylvania's cheating and getting caught at large scale levels rarely seen before. i mean, his rarely seen before is like a verbal tic for him. he said report cheating to authorities. law enforcement must act. now what is he referring to? >> there is a story in lancaster county in pennsylvania about fraudulent voter registrations that there is an active and ongoing investigation into some fraudulent voter registration activity. so some people have picked up on this. i would just say from my part i am i have all the confidence in the world we're going to have a free fair honest election in this country. i strongly believe in the diffuse nature of our elections. local volunteers, local clerks, secretaries of state, no one central controlling authority. i think it's what makes american elections unique and very, very secure. so i have a lot of confidence in the american election system. all right let's move on. more ahead tonight, coming up, obamacare millions count on it for healthcare. >> the foreign president said there's only debate he has concepts of a plan to replace it tonight, though video of house speaker mike johnson promising to try to do just

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quote, not running to terminate the aca. instead, he promised to quote, make it much better, much stronger, even though he tried to eliminate it for many, many years, his entire administration today, though cnn obtained video taken on monday to trump volunteer office in bethlehem, pennsylvania of house speaker johnson saying this to, be big part of the agenda when i say we're going to have a very aggressive first hundred days agenda. if we gotta nauta things on the table, no obamacare no more obamacare he said last month, the treasury department reported that nearly 50 million americans have been covered by it over the last ten years. >> well tonight speaker johnson said in a statement, quote, despite the dishonest characterization from the harris campaign and the audio and transcript, make clear that i offer no such promise to end up alma care. and in fact, acknowledged that the policies deeply ingrained in our health care system. the trump campaign offered a shorter version saying quote, repealing obamacare is not president trump's policy position back now with the panel, does it

make sense with less than a week to go that he would be saying these things or i mean, they clearly he was just going along with what somebody shout it out. >> no, i don't think it's just going along with it well, i'm not saying he believes but, you know, i think he probably i don't know why in this day and age you wouldn't think there's always a camera on you with cell phones and whatnot, but i think he does want to repeal obamacare. >> i think we saw 60, 61 times. they tried to repeal obamacare. i just a couple of points here. one this is why people question the consistency of donald trump and the inconsistency of donald trump when he says, oh, i went and sign a national abortion ban is because the people that you said at a rally that at some big old plan to mike johnson about what you're what you have in store when you win. the election. so what does that plan is no moral bombing care like speaker johnson said, it's why when people connect donald trump to project 2025 and they say, oh, his hands aren't all on it is because they do want to get rid of health care and project 2020

point out that don't trump ran in 2016 on eliminating obamacare. i remember an endless interviews. he was like day one. >> yeah eliminated and within the hour? >> yes. my plan is going to be in place and it's going to be better and obama is it's great, obamacare people love obamacare. it's not perfect. it's not perfect. it's not perfect. but many, many more americans have obamacare and that is why john mccain did the infamous, no, i'm not voting for it because he knew also knew his constituents like obamacare, ship. >> the ship has clearly sailed on repealing it. and johnson made that clear. it's ingrained in our system. but what what must be don and i think what the republicans are going to focus on is prices. i mean, people feel like they're paying more and more and more for insurance and getting less and less coverage. so that is what they want to deal with. i think they're extremely concerned about transparency. nobody knows exactly what's in these medical bills. you get. also, i talked to a senior member of the house republican conference tonight it was directly involved in policymaking on health care. he said, right out of the gate, we

will not do anything to jeopardize pre-existing conditions. so when i hear that, what i hear is republicans understand the political contours in which they're operating. and they're going to act accordingly, but they will not ignore the fact that prices have gone up and coverage has gotten the worst for millions upon millions of why if they were running on this in 2016 and i mean, this was this was widely talked about this this was target number one. >> well, why why did i give up trying to dunk a basketball in my driveway because if you try so many times and fall on your face, he move on to that either lower the goal or you started shooting. >> it was only as a john mccain that there was not an overhaul about this several years ago what i see in this whole thing is donald trump called the speaker of the house and said, what are you talking about? because this was not supposed to come up in the last couple of days, something that would be opposed mr. by millions of american. >> it seems to me it has not gotten more attention, frankly,

i mean, it's a pretty it seems to me a pretty huge thing that he sort of let this amine, he just said out loud, yeah, no more. >> there are no plans and donald trump in the debate, you didn't have any plans in the debates that there were concepts. >> he said he had onsets of a plan. >> well, there are things that republicans have been looking into in the house streamlining middlemen and the system pbm reform, for example. again, this transparency thing is a big deal to republicans, but the overall goal, and i would think both parties would agree on this is how can the price keep going up, but people continue to feel like they're getting less and less coverage. that's not true. if you already are on medicaid or something, you're getting it for free, but for people who pay premiums, who continuously feel like their coverage is getting worse something should be done in the next party, whoever is in the majority is going to be a slim majority should do something about but i just want to draw the contrast is that in the biden administration, they kept the price of insulin they negotiated description and drag cause commonly, harris has rolled out what her plans would be. it's just again, the

contrast is that he said what he said no more obamacare. like, you can i don't like to put words on people's mouths because the knock on her has been from republicans has been she has no plans, right. where does she has rolled out plans on this? and what's the plan? >> the status quo. i mean he talks about expanding coverage for caregivers because right now, most of them don't have coverage. she talked about, not just doing negotiating prescription drug prices under medicare, but expanding on all prescription drug prices, she was premiums. >> premiums are going up people feel like they're getting less coverage. >> that to me if i were if i were a health care focus voter and i were looking at my premiums going up all the time and feeling like it doesn't even feel like i have insurance at all. >> i'd be looking for one of these two parties i'm talking about that. no. no. it's. not it's not already he's got this is new. i hear doing i agree with mike johnson. >> look, i will tell you this and house races across the country. i am certain that candle mike johnson wants to do

that, but mike johnson said no. more bomb. >> well, no. i think i think what he was my understanding is what he was saying is no more. we're not going to beat repealing obamacare because it's too ingrained. we have to do massive reforms because we're not happy with no more attempts to repeal obamacare, does not know like he knew the u.s. been. so my and look, the house of representatives is going to be a narrow majority one way or the other. >> how much controversial stuff do you think either party is going to be able to create i think there's it was important thing scott said tonight from his source on the hill is that they're not going to change pre-existing conditions and let's just while it down to what's the most popular thing about obamacare is that people got coverage and for longer period of time with their children? yes, that is what they're most concerned about. and yes, drug prices and care for the elderly and all of that falls way below that the inflation crisis in this country that we've had for the last four years hit health care almost worse than the thing. >> people know what people feel it. whoever's in the majority and whoever is in the white house, if they don't tackle this, it's political i agree with you. >> i just don't i just really

don't think health care is a winning issue that republicans should be bringing up, the week before the election, especially when you say no more obamacare, that ad rights itself ashley, i was thinking you do encourage them to be bringing bringing it up, but i give free advice. >> okay got jennings. >> thank you. gretchen carlson as well coming up, john king returns with more on what voters in wisconsin are saying about the racist part of his all over the map series that's next live in uncertain times. some assets can evaporate at the click of a button others can deflate with a a single policy change savvy investors know that gold has stood the test of time as a reliable real asset so how you invest in gold sandstorm, gold royalties is a publicly traded company offering a diversified portfolio of mining royalties in one simple investment learn more about it briter way to invest in gold at sandstorm gold.com, experience the movie,

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up to you, how much you actually trust these polls right now, as you saw earlier, john is in wisconsin, he's visiting five battleground states and five days. it's part of his all over the map series, examines the election through the experiences of key voting blocs in those states. here's what he saw in wisconsin a critical dividing line in battleground, wisconsin octane coffee is a startup. >> your morning jolt well tier, prepared by a robot. adrian dc is the founder and ceo. >> this is all of the robotics he grew up in a democratic household, voted twice for barak obama moved to the milwaukee suburbs a decade ago. >> toppings, cold foams a self-described moderate ready to vote a third time for donald trump. >> i just see that donald trump from businesses standpoint from a, let's make a deal standpoint and from an

economics and financing perspective, i think he's got the right mindset for how the country should be run, how to support small and medium-sized businesses? >> are there are downsides to him in your view, does he have some character are personality things that go on for shrimp, but i've said you have to separate the message from the messenger is there some time trump won suburban waukesha county in both 2016 and 2020, but his margin was smaller. >> the second time in wisconsin, flip back to blue. dz believes trump is stronger this time, i would say over the last say, six to 12 months definitely a large trump bump if you'd want to call it walker shaw is a key test of whether trump can reverse his suburban slide and across the county line in milwaukee a pivotal test for kamala harris to this is the trickle be cafe on milwaukee's north side. >> pay what you can is the motto here, we found a lot of apathy on our first visit to these predominantly black neighborhoods a year ago chef s60, a courtney says, the switch to harris ended that, you know, you got some ages

younger, you have familiar with gender, with an agenda and get somebody that's relatable. you know, you got somebody who understands the issues 40 here's talk more black men for trump this time she doesn't believe it's a big number, and i've heard what it is that people had said. >> i've heard people talk about the fact that she's been a prosecutor and she's put black man in jail and things like that well, you know, you had to look at that closer. if you down a crack, certain go to jail and there's nothing that shows that she has a track record of targeting black me in and put them in jail this line for early voting is in sherman park, one of the north side neighborhoods where harris needs high turnout and giant margins what i'm seeing right now any fuzi, asm and excitement that's even bigger than when obama won joins us again, as you mentioned in your story, i mean, you've been visiting wisconsin over the past. >> you're talking to voters there how have you seen an evolution >> let's start anniston, come back to the minimagick while

let's start in milwaukee the first piece we aired, i can remember being in studio with you a year ago saying, wow, we are canvassing with democrats in milwaukee here. it's so critical for the democrats to run it up big in milwaukee, you see the biden, joe biden, the margin. joe biden had were going door to door democratic campuses older black women were saying they weren't sure they were going to vote this time, biden was still the candidate than they thought it didn't matter the apathy in the black community was amazing. that has gone, that has gone, we dropped by an early voting site today, you heard the voter in our piece. there's a lot of energy, enthusiasm. can donald trump cut into at some will see come election day, but that has changed the race. the democratic base is now energized it's in fighting it. so that's question number one. and then question number two, you saw us out and waukesha county here in the suburbs, you heard our voter, they're saying he thinks trump will do better. i think that is the defining question. if harris she's in dane county tonight, madison can run it up there run it up in milwaukee county where i am tonight, then it comes down to places like walker shaw? yes, it's trump red, right? nearly 60%. but what his harris is margin out there again, first presidential election post the dobbs

decision, the harris campaign thinks it's vote numbers in the suburbs are going to be at least as good as biden's, if not a little better. that's the key test. if she can have a margin like this in waukesha and do well in milwaukee, then she's on her way and how critical for both candidates is wisconsin to the path to 70 so if you flip the map here and you bring it up right now and again, you look, we're in the final days here, right? this is this is my tenth presidential campaign. this is extraordinary, seven battleground states, no clear leader million any of them when you average the polls, maybe harris and our new poll, you just outside the margin in michigan and wisconsin. but look how croesus is, right? let's come back here. this is where we are. i'm sorry. i had them shade of blue from our last segment, seven battleground states, those are the yellow states right there. wisconsin. harris can win wisconsin. these three have voted together since 2000 if all three of them both together, she's the next president united states, unless she loses some solid blue state, which is unlikely. that's how important it is to harris doubt if you go back to 2016, remember anderson, these

were the states the blue wall states, if they stayed together again and they went for donald trump knocking on the door. he would still have to win somewhere else and you'd have to win somewhere big like north carolina or georgia, or the two of those out there to do that. so the blue wall states because they tend to vote together, we'll see maybe there'll be a split this time. but because they voted together in all three since 2000, that's why the campaigns are putting so much money into them because of the math, you have, the three of them together, including pennsylvania, the biggest prize at 19. that's again, none of the paths are easy, but that's the easiest path to 270 when wisconsin, michigan, and pennsylvania. and if you're trump than pick up one more and you're going to michigan tomorrow. what are you looking for there? >> same idea. you saw the democratic derek. how can democrats do with black voters in detroit? can harris run strong and mccomb county, which trump is likely to win. but we talked about the polling earlier, non-college white voters. how does she do there? so i'll come back to the other

map just to take quickly give you a look here. michigan again, they all vote too. gather. so you come back to michigan, come over here in 2020, right? look at mccomb county. i want to bring you up wayne wayne county here and you move up to a comb county. this is where my first campaign i love going back here because this is where michael dukakis road, the tank. so it's a great campaign memory. the first time there we go, finally comes up there. great to see them memory for you, not so much for dukakis now for dukakis voters, my introduction to america and how counties can surprise you but mccomb county was mccomb county was blueback then this is how the map has changed over those ten campaigns. >> that was blue union workers, blue-collar workers voted for democrats, said, trump has changed the republican party and change the electoral map in some ways is that is trended over. so i'm really interested how can kamala harris do in mccomb county? hillary clinton didn't do as well as joe biden. she lost michigan if harris can be somewhere around biden's numbers, she can win michigan. so each of these states, the math is the harris coalition is really complicated. the math trump is the constant. harris is the variable in this race to me, trump is the constant three

elections in a row with the same candidate leading the republican ticket never happened to my lifetime. so we can judge him on his past two performances, which is why i love going to the battleground states and just testing it out. >> all we'll, see you in michigan tomorrow. john king, thanks so much. wisconsin looms large in part because in 2016, hillary clinton became the first democratic presidential nominee and 32 years to lose the state. she never visited during her general election campaign by comparison, cnn estimates vice president harris to stop in wisconsin eight times, including tonight, that she held her first rally as a presidential candidate in milwaukee back in july, joining us now 2016 clinton campaign manager, robby mook. robin. what do you make of how the harris campaign is a pr? which and wisconsin well, i think there working as hard as they possibly can to win it, which i think is the only way to approach it. >> you know, as you mentioned, in 2016, we barely lost in 2020 biden barely won it's the state we've seen again and again where the polling has been the most off and where trump is

overperformed the polls the most. so i think i almost, you were sort of mentioning his other eye disregard the polls there completely i think the only way to run there is like your 20 points behind and work as hard as you can. and that's exactly what we're seeing her do tonight. what we've seen the campaign do the entire time. >> i mean, this industry, you ran that campaign, you disregard, you're shaking disregard polls and wisconsin, do you do is that kind of your role for right now this state of the race for all these battleground states have disregarding the numbers yeah, it is anderson. it's i mean, john king was just saying how remarkable this race is. i don't think we've ever had a situation like this where every single battleground state is not just within the margin of error, but most of the averages i'm seeing either candidate is up or down by a point so this this could go any which way. and as john was also demonstrating, what one state moves into somebody's category from the others. and the math gets really tight, really fast.

and so all these states matter a lot. obviously pennsylvania's special, it has the most electoral votes of any of these but you take wisconsin out, you take michigan out, you take any state out that biden won in 2020 and the path gets easier and easier for trump. so that's why we just can't take any of these for granted. and i think we have to absolutely ignore the polls for this final week. >> what do you make of speaker mike johnson pledging to get rid of obamacare if trump is elected, i mean, trump has said he's not going to do that. johnson is now trying to say he didn't say what he said i mean, do you think that is something that he would go after oh, >> i mean, they tried they were so dysfunctional in 2017. they couldn't even repeal it because it because it is so it is so popular and it was so popular that so my guess is, they'll fail again, but they're absolutely determined to repeal obamacare to take away every woman in america's right to reproductive health

they want to they want to do everything they can to advance climate change giveaway, big tax breaks to the oil companies, give more tax breaks to the wealthiest people. just look at what they've done. that's what they're going to do. absolutely. it's a stupid thing to bring up the week before the election, but trump also did but it really stupid thing at madison square garden earlier this week. and people should listen to what they're saying because it is exactly what they're going to do when they get into office. hopefully they won't. but if they do, it's what they'll do given your experience, what do you look for in these closing days? i mean, just from the outside now, what do you what are you watching for? >> yeah. anderson, it's a cliche to talk about. well, now turnouts, the most important thing. but because every state is literally tied, turnout absolutely makes a difference. the little things become big so the efforts by the campaigns in these last few days to turn people out absolutely could be

the margin of error. and i would say to anybody, i assume most of the listeners here have made up their minds and many of them are probably active in campaigns. don't pay attention to the early votes statistics we've absolutely no benchmark to judge what's happening. by 2020. it was such a special cycle. many of the laws have changed at this point. we just everything's a tie go work as hard as you can because these little things are absolutely going to matter. >> rubbing look, thanks so much. appreciate it coming up. our donie o'sullivan goes through the looking glass, spends a day absorbing news about this election from the maga media the universe political analysis you have questions biden said, the right both stayed away why didn't pull out of a 60 minutes? >> i love bullying no network of i got news for you saturday at nine on cnn liberty mutual customizes my car insurance, so i saved hundreds, but the money i say not to get a wax figure myself oh, right in the

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mega media universe. i've a samsung television, long as you're connected to the internet, you got all these free channels. you have challenged you recognize, but then you get down real america's voice. but real america's voice is anything but a normal news network. >> because we're going medieval on this before. >> it's the home of steve bannon's war room. >> like to share that big maga media i know that guy morning poppy, this is getting boxes sitting in for steve bannon. big part of what's happening on maga media is convincing their audience that there's absolutely no way that trump can lose. >> there's a 99% chance we are facing total crazy town as the day went on if anyone believes the kamala harris is ahead in the polls you need to have your brain checked it became clear that maga media is telling their audience to expect the election to be stolen three

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