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tonight, kamala harris and donald trump tried to drive home their final messages, but are the controversies ovover garbage getting in the. way, plus trump's spreads claims of voter fraud and pennsylvania, that even though officials say the election is secure, team, trump and team harris are here to respond and the governator gives his endorsement, arnold towards the magar says he doesn't want four years of and truly lies. tonight on laura coates live >> we are just six days out from the election and tonight the two campaigns find themselves overshadowed by a single word garbage. >> this evening's backdrop, you've got rival rallies in battleground wisconsin donald trump in green bay riling up his crowd with a role playing
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stunt, and kamala harris in madison back with some pretty major musical star power, gracie abrams mumford and sons, remi wolf, the national all performing to help energize young people to get out to the polls. but harris is also dealing with a different kind of musical act a chorus of attacks from the right, trying to tie her to president biden's garbage gaffe the one where he appeared to insult trump supporterse says it was aimed at the comedian. a trump supporter at madison square garden, and the rally who made the so-called hate even say joke, but he thinks it's a joke about puerto rico. but harris is making it clear where she stands i think that the president has explained what he meant but i've got said it earlier. i strongly disagree with any criticism of people based on who they vote for, and i've made that clear throughout my career, including
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my speech last night before i think this all happened which is i intend to be president for all americans. >> and youtube those who may not vote for him in this election this is obviously not at all what she wants to be focusing on in the final days of her campaign. because even though she is distancing herself from what biden said trump is pouncing and in the most theatrical way possible, over in green bay, he appeared in a garbage truck vest and all and what's the costume without the trash talk? >> i think that the them because you really two of them about being garbage, maybe 250 million people they shouldn't be talking. that's like deplorable fail if this is the deplorable for hillary and i think this is worse actually for joe biden to make that statement it's really a disgrace well, the act didn't end there. trump showed up at
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his rally a short time later, still wearing the vest. >> as before he arrived, green bay packers legend sorry, minnesota vikings fans. and for minnesota had to say that part, brett favre set him up with an easy pass i can assure you we're not garbage not forget how all of this started the original garbage controversy caught maybe the og at this point trump is again claiming that he knew nothing about the comedian and his msk msg rally called puerto rico garbage. but multiple latin celebrities have called out trump over it. >> and now there's another the difference this time. it was someone who was firmly in his camp reggaeton superstar, nikki jam is now pulling out from his trump endorsement the same nikki jam that appeared on stage with trump just a month ago, decked out in a maga hat
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he now says, what are we go should be respected joining us now, former democratic congressman joe crowley, cnn, legal analyst laura barron lopez, and republican strategist joe pinion here as well. glad to have you all here. i'll begin with you, joey, because obviously this is not where they want to be right now talking about this in the final almost now five days away, harris was closing her rally tonight with a swipe at donald trump and a promise to be a president for everyone. listen to this unlike donald trump, i don't believe people who disagree with me are the enemy he wants to put them in jail. >> i'll give them a seat at my table and i pledge to always this put country above party and sells and to be president for all americans so joe crowley in these last six days, can she recover from her own
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statements but from biden's gaffe? well, i was there last night. i was one of the 75,000 people love my wife and it was powerful to be there with those folks and i listened, look the reality is that there's not a bad bone in joe biden's body. he's a decent, honorable person. he's had gaps in the past. he continues to have the that's unfortunate. at the same time, donald trump just a month ago, described democratic supporters or kamala, a couple of harris as scum and as garbage. and there wasn't an eye blink of an eye from anyone. it's only going to pour joe biden says something off off off script and inaccurately that people jump up or down any clarified said that's not he was talking about the people at that rally it's gusting rally that took place this last weekend in madison square garden. and look, is this what do want to talk about? no. but at the same time, it's not going to change the fact that trump's people disparaging puerto rico
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disparage the puerto rican people. and that is going to have an impact on this election. >> joe pinion, let me go to you for a second to, because many people have viewed trump's now criticism of harris as a stone thrown by a man that lives in a very big glass house why do you think he is choosing to seize on this particular moment in the way that he has as a firm reminder to republican voters all across this country, that front who 2016 and beyond, that, there has been public contempt for any and everyone that has supported president trump that has continued to support the republican party. and so look, i would tend to agree with former congressman crowley. yes. joe biden has had many gaffes, but it is not his gaffes alone that republicans arrive at this conclusion it's when they're being called deplorables. when every single republican was labeled an insurrectionist, when we have people saying that every single black person that supports president trump should be looked at quite strangely, all skin folk are not kinfolk, so
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there has been a permission structure that has been created in this country in the media that permeates the political left that does allow for republicans to be disrespected. so we are not going to be having a conversation about reaching the high ground of civility over the next six days. it's not going to happen. we need to have it over the next ten years but if we're talking about this election, i think we should just be honest it's about the fact that that disrespect has been flying for a very long time out of czech. >> well, laura, we bring you into this conversation because i wonder if it satisfactory to the american voters to go, oh, but you both do something wrong. therefore, they cancel it out, or they look at this in a very different way. and frankly harris has come out to say, as you played tonight, that she wants to be a president for all, remember the fox news interview with bret bair, she wouldn't take the bait to try to say something disparaging about trump voters. so how do you contextualize this in terms of how the harris campaign needs to address this. have they done enough? >> i think she certainly done a
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lot. i mean, look, these two instances are completely different, but it's just objectively factual. kamala harris, her entire campaign has been saying that she wants republican votes, that she wants moderate republicans to vote for her, that she surrounds herself with republicans that are super conservative liz cheney and adam kinzinger. and that she is going to put a republican in her cabinet she has made very clear that she wants all of their votes and that she wants to represent everyone donald trump has a pattern of coleen democrats and americans, fellow americans enemies from within that echoes nazi rhetoric. rick calling saying that democrats are enemies. these are fellow americans again, fellow americans, our enemies that are worse than authoritarian leaders like putin. those are all statements that donald trump has made in terms of impact, i was texting with voters today that i've kept in touch with in swing states. i was texting with it the two-time trump voter in
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arizona, a woman who said that she's planning on she's now decided she hadn't been for the months leading up to the election. she's going to vote for kamala harris and she said that a lot of it had to do with just donald trump's rhetoric and the entire leadup to the election. and that someone who voted for him twice and she was aware of biden's comments and she said that that's not what she's heard from harris this entire time, so she didn't think harris was responsible for joe biden's comments then also, in terms of the impact of the puerto rican racist joke, is that i've been texting with worth weekends in allentown. allentown has more than 50,000 puerto ricans that live in it. pennsylvania has hundreds of them thousands of forethought weakens at live in it. a swing state and there is seems to be that seemed to have broken through their and a lot of them in those communities are not happy with those comments. some spanish language radio disc jockey that i was talking to they are in allentown said that he has pored the recons calling in saying that they weren't necessarily motivated to vote
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before they were a bit apathetic that they're going to vote. now, in terms of actual impact on voters, it appears as though the race is puerto rican jokes is having more of an impact on voters than joe biden's gaffe i want to play for a second because this was this this split-screen between somebody who previously had supported trump, not to somebody was app that that they'd come out to support and i'm talking about nikki jam. >> and he was at last vegas rally. just what was it a month ago. here's how that moment went. >> latin music superstar, nikki jam, you know nikki? she's hot, whereas dickey whereas nikki thank you, nikki. oh, look all, this reminds you that moment and clueless when alicia silverstone asked the question, they asked her, do you like billy the jazz billie holiday. >> oh my god. my mind almost went billie holiday. i love
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him. >> there was that moment but saying, okay, anyway i want to play for you. it's see what happens. karma was like you tried to make by the bat and it happened to you, mom, dad, please don't ground me. i know who billie holiday is. i would saying, but no, thank you. but in a video statement in on his instagram than nikki jam saying this, puerto rico should be respected congressman crowley, the impact of this, i'm always surprised by the straw that breaks the camel's back where repeatable. >> trump has said a lot over the years previously, he had compartmentalize for the economy. >> now this statement was too much and beyond on the pale. is that something that the harris campaign is going to be looking at to figure out how they can move that needle for other voters as well. >> well, i do think this has a bit of a life of its own. i mean, you have to go back to the hurricane and the image of the foreign president trump throwing paper towels or puerto ricans really treat them so disrespectfully during this time of horror, i went to the island after that, i saw the devastation that was there paper towels. this wasn't going
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to cut it. you add onto this though. this particular incident. i do think what's important about nikki, jim, and his withdrawal of the support is that for a lot of people didn't watch this on over the weekend on sunday, didn't see the actual event itself that they're finding out to other ways, especially to people that they trust and admire. and that's why i think sometimes celebrities can play a role, i think in this particular case, that's what's happening now. he was someone who was for trump and now is against him. and that's a very powerful statement. >> joe pinion come back in the conversation here. i mean, trump is not only dealing with this issue, of course, he is a performance person and an entertainer and seizing on it with the garb et cetera, and the garbage truck. but he's also underwater with women voters and tonight, he actually joked about advisers who've been waving him off telling women that he will be their protector. listen to this they said sure. >> i just think it's inappropriate for you to say hey, these guys are a lot of
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money. can you believe it? >> i said, well, i'm going to do it. >> whether the women like it or not, i've got to protect them. i'm going to protect them from migrants coming in whether they like it or not, it seems and reads paternalistic. >> nikki haley has warned the campaign that this kind of messaging might make women feel uncomfortable how do you think he is evaluating statements like that? does he think that that will ingratiate him to undecided women voters. >> i think that we have less than a week in this campaign remaining, and the president has decided to, he is going to be the most bombastic version of himself. i do simply have to add that we have these conversations and we're not having the conversations that are really on the minds of most of those. i think swing voters that remain the over $1 trillion in personal credit card debt, the highest we've ever seen, the fact that we have over 600,000 americans that are defaulting on their car payments. and so yes, kamala harris can say she wants
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to be the president for all people while we forget that part of what catapulted tim walz to the front of the line to be vp. was this catchphrase of calling half the country weird. and so i do think that we just have to be honest about the fact that no, there is not this great big tent on the left side of the aisle. >> the only useful republican for the harris-walz campaign is republican ready to lampoon their own party? >> and tim walz himself has said, he has no intention on listening to liz cheney on foreign policy or domestic policy. they just want to use her to create a permission structure to get republicans to ignore the war of expansion in europe, to ignore the war in gaza to ignore what's happening in the south china sea as the ccp tightens his grip. so these are the issues that i think are on the minds of most voters. yes, we can talk about these other issues, but ultimately, i think if we're talking about what gets extended across the finish line, those would be the things on the front of mind. >> today, johnson said that he is noto obama obamacare this
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also covering up that johnson said that today he's ingredient with former president trump nodal obamacare. >> i've seen that discussion and obviously it does have legs. thank you all for coming on. i do wonder how the voters who are going to be ultimate deciders of this i want to thank and just what, six days from now. thank you. all ahead inside the dead heat in the battleground, pennsylvania, where donald trump now is producing the first scenes of the stop the steal stay plus the tight race and the commonwealth now sparking a bit of a thorny, thorny question that harris make the right choice is letting her vp >> it's like forrest gump only wiser and deeper in unforgettable experienced a huge thumbs up tom hanks, robin wright empire does florida experience hearing leaders thursday rated pg 13
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with 2,600 no, we caught em cold he even went further on his truth social account saying the entire state is cheating and urging law enforcement to act but here are the actual facts. >> this was a lancaster county, pennsylvania are investigating what they call fraudulent voter registration attempts involving about 2,500 applications. but the application don't appear to be from either party. and officials say the fact that they caught the problem is proof of this system actually is working. now, trump is trying to change his tune, is even claiming he would actually accept the election results they found a lot of smaller things in pennsylvania, as you know, and i think they've been taken it would they were corrupted. >> but i think it's been taken. >> but if they find no evidence of cheating will you know
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else i hope there's going to be the case with lose you draw. i hope that's going to be joining me now, congressman dan goldman, a democrat from new york, he's been campaigning in pennsylvania for harris congressman. do you believe that trump will accept the results of the election? >> well, laura, there was no evidence of fraud the last time around and he certainly did not accept the results of the election. in fact, in florida, there were only four cases of voter busari, pennsylvania, there were only four cases of voter fraud, all by republicans. so there is no voter fraud going going on. in fact, the system is working as it should work. there was one person arrested, a trump supporter, who was arrested today because violating rules by yelling at people and trying to influence their vote in line at the polls but this is just yet again, donald trump's effort to lay a foundation to claim that this a loss for him
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in pennsylvania and elsewhere was not based on accurate voters voter tallies, and that's just there's no evidence of it now, there wasn't evidenced last time around, but he's already beginning the effort to for big lie 2.0. >> what is the motivation a planting that seed? is he hoping to have litigation set aside or set up or to encourage voters to act well, there's no question there already trying to lay the seeds for a legal challenge by filing lawsuits in advance of the election. >> one of the issues they ran into last time was standing where they didn't have any reason or jurisdiction to be in court. so they're filing all of these lawsuits so that they can try to avoid that problem. but this is donald trump has been trying to line up his backup plan is little secret with mike johnson to overturn the election shan when he loses
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for quite some time you think that speaker johnson is somehow in cahoots to not certify well, i think that without further explanation and explanations from both speaker johnson and the trump campaign of what that little secret is. make no sense. they're just not plausible. they're not realistic. what is realistic is that if mike johnson is the speaker of the house, he has a lot of control over what to do with the certification of the electoral votes and he could with if he leads his party to do so in majority only if they're in the majority. he could throw out certification of one or more states and send this election to the house of representatives and that is a very real possibility. and i think the american people need to understand that whoever is in the majority of the house will be the speaker on january 6. whoever wins the majority on tuesday. and if we are to have
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a peaceful transfer of power and lawful certification of the election according to the states than we need to make sure that hakeem jeffries is the speaker of the house for the democratic party. >> congressman. it's perhaps no accident that trump is in pennsylvania a great deal. harris and trump are actually the tide in the final cnn poll. in pennsylvania. and today, cnn political analyst for our organization, ron brownstein, writes that harris would have pennsylvania in the bag if she had picked governor josh shapiro as her running mate, do you think it was a mistake not to have added him instead of walz to the again today and was in touch with governor shapiro while i was there. and everybody is motivated, everybody is energized the ground game is really well organized and orchestrated. we have people coming from all over the country. in fact, all over for the world to pennsylvania to
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canvas on behalf of kamala harris because people do understand the existential threat that donald trump poses. i was speaking to a lot of jewish voters are the last couple of days and explaining how we already have evidence that kamala harris will send troops to israel protect israel against iran. and jd vance is talking about how our interests may diverge from israel if there's a war against iran, in which case we may drop, we may abandon our support for israel so there are a lot of issues at stake here, but the energy is good. i went to a bunch of different districts with my colleague colleagues and the the energy is good. the organizations good. and i think people are feeling good about pennsylvania right now. >> but we'll see only six days to go to see who's really right. congressman dan goldman. thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> while you just heard from the harris side up next the trump team gets a word, republican congressman mike waltz is with me tonight, and
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7866 at 5:55 wisconsin tonight and getting a pass from one of the most iconic cheeseheads in the entire state former green bay packers quarterback brett favre. >> and that's not the only support trump received today. the legendary astronaut buzz aldrin also endorsed trump, celebrating him as a promoter of space exploration. as we mentioned, trump did lose the support of puerto rican singer nicki jam. he blasted the floating island of garbage joke. a comedian made at trump's madison square garden rally with me now, trump surrogate former green beret republican congressman from florida, mike waltz. he's also the author of hard truths, think, and lead like a green
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beret. congressman, thank you for joining. i want to get to all the endorsements in just a moment, but i did want to give you a chance to respond to your house colleague, dan goldman, who was just on he made the statement that speaker johnson and i'm paraphrasing here. it could be plotting with trump to help overturn the election results paltrow not certify them if trump loses, what's your response well, frankly, that's ridiculous and i would point representative goldman to the ranking member of the committee. >> we both sit on of the oversight committee. jamie raskin who was asked if he would accept the election results and certify them. and he said if it's free and fair and honest, then he would accept them, but then he followed it up and said, but he doesn't expect that president trump to have a free and fair and honest election and expects them to manipulate it. so basically gave himself and out not certify the election, which is quite ironic amongst many ironies. i mean, look, i think the biggest irony of all is the
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chairman of the jan. sixth committee, democrat representative bennie thompson didn't certify the election in 2016 and repeatedly said the russians selected president trump that he was selected and not elected, and he was an illegitimate president. but yet somehow he had the credibility to then investigate jan. sixth. so this is a long history of people not certifying elections when they have issue with them all the way back to 04 when they said the voting machines, democrat said the voting machines and colluding nancy pelosi we'll see in ohio malfunction and swung that then swing state towards president bush. so let's not pretend like this started in 2020. and let's not pretend that the democrats haven't repeatedly not certified elections and are even given themselves and out to not certify this one. >> well congressman you and i have spoken about this issue before, frankly, and was six days ago, many are concerned about putting a kind of political cart before the horse
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talking about certifying when the candidates need to be still making their closing arguments and trying to persuade voters to vote for them. in the interest of that. let's move to the fact that the new york times report or extent former vice president mike pence actually told a crowd that he will never support the harris-walz ticket, but he's still not endorsing trump. he also voiced concerns about the direction of your party, the gop members insisting that he should have set aside his oath on january 6, what is the plan to win over voters who might feel like pence seen this campaign cast a bigger net probably than any in modern history. >> i mean, you literally have a kennedy campaigning with president trump, you have a tulsi gabbard who i debated and many debates on the house floor but has re-registered and
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weaken. i mean, we can go down the list and the herms have how these coalitions have been somewhat scrambled. you're seeing african-american men come towards republicans on economic issues. you're seeing hispanics, especially in florida, has been trending our way for quite some time, jewish voters that are coming our way. so look, i mean at the end of the day, those pocketbook issues reign supreme in people's everyday lives. and when you have this calm on trust with how they felt four years ago, when their wallets were fuller, things cost less. the border was under control. they felt more secure in terms of crime and certainly four years ago when you had peace deals being signed on the white house lawn from the middle east compared to the chaos and war that we see today. that contrast is incredibly clear. and i think people are going to vote on actions over rhetoric. pele long and yet these two candidates are still extremely
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close jump balls and a lot of these particularly key battleground states and no clear victor to that to 70 as of yet. >> but i'm wondering just based on what you said and thinking about all these endorsements that i'm amen and both sides buying for it nikki haley had quite the following and she campaigned in pennsylvania for republican senate candidate dave mccormick. but she still hasn't hit the trail as a surrogate for trump specifically what's the strategy to reach out to haley voters? is there one? >> well, look, when there's a binary choice and there's, there's a number of voters out there that would say, you know, i don't like the way president trump tweets sometimes are even he himself has said you may not like me, but you liked my policies and my policies are better for you and your family, and we now have a binary choice between the last four years and what has happened in the economically, what's happened with crime, what's happened with multiple wars around the
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world that did not exist, just a few years ago with a military that has a recruiting readiness and equipment crisis with the withdrawal from dana stan and that absolute debacle again, when people have a binary choice they not only are going to come our way, they are coming our way. and that's why you see, it's close. you're right. but you see a narrow edge across a number of polling averages on the issue of economics and the economy more broadly, people you have a sense of how they feel about the economy, what they're grocery basket looks like, and the receipt that comes along with it elon musk is trump's richest supporter, and he seemed to endorse an idea at the economy may very well suffered chaos after an if trump wins, but it will eventually be corrected. as you know, voters are already struggling. is that the right message to send to endorse one week before election day you know, i'm not familiar with everything that that elon puts
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out, but i can tell you as someone i mean, i just haven't read every single tweet today, so i couldn't read it that fast, but but look, you have someone who has revolutionized multiple industries has done things that no one said could be done with literally created efficiencies whether it's spacex, tesla, twitter. >> and i hope including the federal government that has become bloated and is not serving the american people in a way that it should and if there's some, some economic turmoil if we have some type of close election, i guess that's what you're saying. he said perhaps, but what we're seeing in reality is i think the market started putting to trend because as president trump as gain momentum, people believe he has a great chance of winning. that is being increasingly baked into the
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market. and what is also reacting to the thought of doubling capital gains, which if you built and slaved over a small business. and finally build it up and you want to sell it. and now they're going to take half of your proceeds, which is a very real proposal. if you're seeing tax gains or tax increases which is also a proposal that's on the table because all of the tax cut and jobs act are on the table next year to be negotiated and i think you're seeing the markets could react to that too we'll see how the voters feel about it and who's pitch was most persuasive to their bottom line. >> congressman mike waltz. thank you so much alright thank you up next, get to the choppa and vote. arnold schwarzenegger calls for a total recall of hate and division, telling voters to say author levies vista to donald trump. but is he all in on kamala harris or does he just see her as some sort of last action hero mike
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the cia linus, new season. >> now streaming exclusively on paramount plus rahel solomon in new york. and this is cnn reprising that famous line from predator to describe four more years under trump, he writes, it will just be four more years of with no results that makes us angrier and angrier more divided and more hateful, unquote. >> that's coming from the former republican governor of california morning in mind you writing that today in his endorsement of kamala harris, he goes on to attack trump for january 6 and also election denialism saying in his post two is more than 5 million followers on x, rejecting the results of an election is as un-american as it gets he hasn't stopped there he went
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on to say to someone like me who talks to people all over the world and still knows america is the shining city on a hill calling america a trash can for the world. so unpatriotic, it makes me furious. and i will always be an american before i'm a republican >> mr. harris, politically, this was not that these two have some pretty stark political differences completely right, laura, i mean, arnold is a conservative, but this is a fascinating moment because arnold schwarzenegger, who is an immigrant who escaped austria after, the war and the economic
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devastation russian tanks on the front lawn came to america because he believed this was the place to be became a republican because he believed that was the party of the american dream. >> he's from that reagan optimistic right of center, common stems economics tradition and everything about donald trump offense that the name calling. i mean, if you listen to a trump's he goes through the enemies list till we wants to get even with the second 30 minutes or a couple of trued insults. and then he runs down the country where the garbage can were terrible, where the worst country ever everything's going wrong. that is that's so offensive to somebody like arnold who sees america as a shining great thing. not to be trashed. so i don't know reflects that tradition, which is why other reagan conservatives like me who aren't, aren't liberals. but we know trumps got to be stopped, so we're for harris just saying as you outline
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those things things, i mean, it's worse. i did not leave stones unturned in terms of his views, even towards democrats and the endorsement he said he wanted to tune out. he took some shots of democrats the endorsement and at one point saying, let me be honest with you. i don't like either party, right now democrats aren't any better at dealing with deficits. and i worry about their local policy plus he's hurting our cities with increased crime. i mean, he's being quite candid about his views. he's not necessarily embracing all sides, but he is clear in what he wants to do with that message of candor resonate i think so. >> i can't go around and and say, oh, you're one of those wind bags on television. i'm so tired of politics in the whole country of hundreds of millions of people we come up with choices is particularly true when joe biden was talking about running for reelection so there's huge fatigue. but i think a lot of that is driven by donald trump. and i think the bet earn was making. is that even though he has
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ideological disagreements that she's a grown up and she's gonna bring being on american side and a more positive politics back and you know that then we can have civil debates again about policy not name calling and toddler tantrums. and frankly, dangerous french trips abroad because that's not a thing about arnold schwarzenegger. he knows the world and he came from a place where the russians weren't a joke. and they weren't the good guys and that's something i think donald trump has trouble putting together. so yeah, i think it will resonate. >> eventually you think about the messenger himself and especially when both candidates are desperately trying to court male voters. in particular, we've seen trump on a number of male oriented podcasts and how harris has endorsements from dave by artista schwarzenegger, even former wrestler mankind, who was just on this show, which campaign in that category has the upper hand and appealing to those voters.
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>> well, i'll tell you it's, hard to beat the terminator. i've worked for a lot of governors, my political career, i've never seen somebody who can pull 15,000 people to a rally without a big spend to drive it out. i mean, he is he is an icon. he does his own thing and i think over the trump campaign, they now have a terminator boot size footprint on they're candidates. but i score today for harris arnold's a big deal as a very big visual notion. >> mike murphy, thank you so much for joining us tonight. >> thank you up next, in countering misinformation at a maga rally you're implying that the government made a. hurricane stronger to hurt its own country. the united states of america, correct the comedy duo behind those viral interviews, live with me next
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you choose what i've pay for. sling let's do that i wish my tv provider let me choose what i pay for it. >> let me pause lots of description went out was flying, what do you do that published on, tv provider let me choose what i pay for and let me pause muscle friction went i want hand and hundred the free channels, letting left to do lineup will watch for sling. let's he has plans to punish his political enemies in a second term, but no plan to punish corporations who rip you off. >> trump is running to get revenge for himself. kamala, he's running to get results for you her plans cut middle-class taxes and price gouging, protect medicare and social security, and make life more affordable. >> i will always put the middle class and working families first. >> trump fights for trump. kamala fights for you. ff pac is responsible for the content of it the sad
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stressed to help them feel more kong, try feel away optimum the hurricane to hurt the united states. >> absolutely not to hurt the united. they want the land they want the land for the yeah, for what is that? the batteries, uranium stuff, whatever within the lithium-ion, harris is a slimy, slimy communist. she's going to do what the globalist heller, kamala harris is actually a communist, actual communists. >> why would antifa, and all of them interrupt the certification of a presidential election in which joe biden was going to be certifies the next president. you're saying they posed as trump's supporters on january 6. why would they do that to make trump look bad if you wanted an example of the type of misinformation that's out there in the universe in our politics right now. well, that video we just played might just be it. everything you saw was filmed outside of trump's rally at madison square garden over this past weekend. and the guy is hold in the mix i recognize them as the good
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liars as they called themselves there to comedian's who document what they see at political events. sometimes pulling some stunts along the way, like pretending to sell trump bibles they've been through more than 30 of trump's rallies. they've recently launched a podcast called the good liars tell the truth, death from seafloor and jason sell vague. join me now, durham. so nice to see you all hear what are the most often repeated lies that you too are seeing and hearing out there the most often repeated lie, i guess would probably still be about the 2020 election. we've been asking people, you know, who won the 2020 election four years. it turns out now, and i think we can probably count on one hand the number of times people have said, i believe believe joe biden won the election. so were taking a poll and it's a, it's, we're at about 1% of trump supporters that will admit that the 2020
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election happened. >> have you heard that's fascinating to think about. you never know, you hear the polls, you hear the rhetoric. but then to have people in front of you saying that to you with a straight face must be stuck jason, you guys have been going at these rallies since i think what, 2015. have the rallies and way the people attending them changed over time yeah. >> i mean, they definitely have i mean, trump has always attracted people like it's always been like a circus atmosphere, even from the first one we went to, i think in 2016 when we called trump boring, that was something we did there. and now it's definitely changed. there's people are angry, they're very angry about the 2020 election. and we should also say we were at january 6 and things definitely changed their it got violent and we found ourselves in the middle of that. but behind the capital while there were storming the capitol, so wow, it's definitely changed. the rhetoric has changed. the conspiracy theories are more out there and i would say there
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is like a significant portion of the people that we talked to that believe a lot of these out there conspiracy theories is that we have some sound from when you guys were both outside of that on january 6, listen to this, everyone what would you say to donald trump if you were talking to him right now i'd say you're the greatest president of our lifetime. >> let's go trump you're still are president. >> what do you say to people who say that trump lost by 7 million votes and he should, he should concede i think they need to think again, you think there's a chance of when this is all said and done so war it could start today see that in, just play it back from your vantage point and we're all remember that day and now we know there are some seeds already being planted where trump is already talking about a stolen election. this
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time and cheating. how will this base respond? >> we were just talking about that today, actually, on our podcast, this the seeds have been sown. nobody seems to feel any differently. and when you go to these rallies, as jason carroll touched on, there's this circus like atmosphere. it almost feels light in a way, but there are such such dark undertones. nobody wants to accept the results of this election. we have straight up asked people, will you accept the results of the election if donald trump wins? yes. will you accept the results if kamala harris wins, know and that's pretty much the answer without fails. i think we're heading into incredibly uncertain times, which is hard to believe given that we've had four years to try and litigate this we are right back to where we were. is it uncertain or is it just a sequel of what we had there always bad in the office see. >> i mean, maybe maybe there's
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some kind of prequel we can talk about jason hey, origin story. well, i think that might be hamilton, frankly, it's there we go. you were at a trump rally recently, jason in north carolina, a few weeks ago, both of you where mark robinson, who is the gop candidate for governor is there. he's been, as you know, embroiled in scandal over disturbing comments that he made on a porn forum. you can't make this it's up which he denies. but you spoke to some rally attendees about it. listen to what happened absolutely did you go for mark robinson maybe not probably not. >> probably not. no i don't know how any indian told you all men could vote for him so they overlook things for trump, but not hit my square. this for me in that moment. >> well, i think we should give like we've we do a lot interviews with trump's supporters, but we've also talked to them about mark robinson. we talked to them about shall morrow, who i don't know if you're familiar with running for superintendent of public education in north
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carolina, she's tweeted some really out there things she called for obama to be killed on paper view by a firing squad. and she is running to be in charge of the public schools in north carolina and the defense of some of these trumps supporters. we've talked to them and we showed them the tweets from michele morrow. we showed some of mark robinson's or inflammatory statements and a lot of the trump supporters said, after seeing that they wouldn't be voting for them. so i'm gonna give them the benefit of the doubt there. some of the people they see the tweets, they see what people say, and they're not just voting democrat or republican really unbelievable. >> i can't wait to listen to your podcast again, the good liars tell the truth, dram seafloor's jason sell, vic. thank you both so much. thanks. ramadan and thank you all for watching. >> i'll see you back here tomorrow. hope you all have a safe and happy halloween and watch out for those disappeared >> where do i go anderson

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