groups largely reliant on governor brian kemp's organization that detente between the two republican camps pretty critical a few weeks ago, but also the contrast between the harris campaign and the 2020 biden campaign. the current campaign, the largest in state coordinated campaign and democratic history, pushing out much further, trying to target rural voters to take down trump's margins in his strongholds, very different from what we saw in 2020. obviously, biden won in 2020, harris hoping to do the same this time around we'll see how it plays out. phil, appreciate it. thank you. thanks to all of you for joining us tonight. america hill in for erin burnett. hope you're having a happy halloween. stay tuned. ac360 starts right now once again, claims he will be women's protector and ads, whether they like it or not. also tonight, new cnn, battleground polling, john king

breaks it down. we're joined by senior harris campaign adviser david plouffe and donie o'sullivan reports on the step-by-step plans that influential trump supporters are making to overturn the election if trump loses again good evening. thanks for joining us for a second straight day. the two presidential campaigns are sharing geography. the vice president tonight about to speak in reno, nevada. and after that in las vegas, where jennifer lopez will be joining her onstage. lopez just one of many well-known artists or puerto rican heritage who are rallying behind harris now, especially after one of the speakers at trump's rally in new york on sunday called puerto rico a floating island of garbage. her reno event is expected to begin shortly. the former president is in henderson, nevada and has an event with tucker carlson later tonight in glendale, arizona. he was also so mexico today where he falsely suggested that he won the state twice. in fact, he lost by eight points in 2016 and double-digit in 2020. but we're starting off with what he said last night in green bay, wisconsin, which became the latest of several campaigns, soundbites, not always from the candidates themselves that are put one

side or the other on the defensive say no, i want to protect the people. i want to protect the women of our country. i want to protect the women, sir. please don't say that why? they said we think it's we think it's very inappropriate for you to say so why i'm president. i want to protect the women of our country. well i'm gonna do it whether the women like it or not. >> now the reason he's claiming his advisers told him, please don't say that doesn't sound great. it's very inappropriate for you to say that is because of what he said not long ago at another rally speaking to the women of america you will be protected and i will be your protector women confident, and free

about abortion to all they talk about abortion it's all they talk about those women, abortion somehow he's going to make it so you no longer even think about abortion. >> so here's the vice president said about trump's new remarks today in phoenix, the ones about him being women's protect her, whether the women like it or not. >> he's simply does not respect the freedom of women or the intelligence of women to know what's in their own best interests and make decisions accordingly. but we trust women it's no surprise why trump advisers might suggest he not go down this road. first of all, as i mentioned in jury this year, found trump liable for sexually abusing a woman who else is on tape, boasting about how he could sexually assault women because he's a star and then there's the denigration of any woman who opposes him are confronts him, or just asked him a hard question that he doesn't like he was by far the nastiest to

joe biden. there was nobody nastier than her. she was extraordinarily nasty to kevin or if she was nasty to a level that was just a horrible thing. she was probably nastier than even pocahontas by the racist attorney general of new york state letitia peekaboo. james in the wings. they've got a local racist democrat district attorney in atlanta. how about low iq maxine waters. >> amara isa is obviously the ultimate villain and add the nastiest i think it's very narrow who you ask a continue in a very hostile, nasty towns, what a stupid question but i watched you a lot. >> you asked a lot of stuff so lots of coverage tonight, starting with cnn's priscilla alvarez and north las vegas, where vice president harris will be a hearing later so how much do you expect to hear tonight from vice person about trump's comments?

>> well, these comments played directly into the vice president's core message about freedoms and more specifically, reproductive freedoms. polls have indicated that she has an edge on the former president when it comes to women. and so that is what she's been playing into over the course of today. she started responding to this in the morning and we have seeing that already at her rally in phoenix, we expected again in reno and then again in las vegas. and the reason for that anderson is because this is an issue that's your campaign officials believe reproductive freedoms in particular is one that will galvanize voters to the polls they saw it in 2022 and they expect to see it again, particularly again with women. so when in the foreign president makes remarks like this, they are happy to seize on it and recently losing the campaign deploy a strategy of rapidly responding to the former president is especially when he makes comments like this. so certainly here in las vegas, we are anticipating that the vice president is going to mention it again, and continue to do so over the next several days. because the moment like

this, they're focused on mobilization and if they can use comments like this to mobilize voters, they're certainly going to do it. anderson the vice president, has seen kind of a rallying of very well-known artists of puerto rican descent, jennifer lopez, as i said, it's going to be at this event, correct. >> later in las vegas that's right. >> and this boost. i've been talking to sources in the campaign about this because what we saw over the last several days was latino artists coming out in full force to support the vice president after those comments made at former president donald trump's rally in new york city from a comedian assailing puerto rico and as. given momentum, especially in the puerto rican community. so the vice president and her team have been trying to build on that through ads, but also to try to appeal to latino voters. they are crucial, of course, in a state like nevada. and also in arizona, but in nevada, the vice president is pretty evenly split with former president donald trump in the polls among latino, she's she is trying to gain an edge here, especially a

day before early in-person voting ends, that ends tomorrow. mail-in ballots will continue and then in-person voting will commence again on tuesday. but the timing here is no coincidence. jennifer lopez in particular has been very outspoken since the former president's rally. so we may hear more from her today on that certainly this stop here as much as she has been trying to appeal to women by criticizing the former president were president's comments. she is certainly also trying to make a play here for latino voters, knowing that the polls still show them pretty split know for priscilla alvarez, thanks so much joining us, our political analysts, commentators, and campaign vets from across the partisan fact from van jones, gretchen carlson david axelrod, and aaron perine. aggression. i mean, how i'm just phrased that the donald trump uses whether they like it or not. how do you think this is landing? >> well, thank you for coming to me first as a woman who fights for equal rights for women and to stop silencing women and have done so for the last eight to nine years. this is highly offensive i think what's so ominous about the way in which he said this,

that's different from when he said it a month ago. is that this time he said whether they like it or not and let's be clear, there's a long history of trump being accused of doing things to women that they probably didn't like. so case in point, he took away roe v. wade, the majority of women in this country not want that to happen. number two, more than a dozen women have accused him of sexually assaulting them in some way. i'm sure they did not want that to happen. number three, he said that because he was a powerful man, he could grab women by the excuse my french, and that they probably wouldn't care. and number four, he was convicted of sexual assault of e jean harel. and is going to owe her millions of dollars. so i don't want to just say this because it's halloween tonight, but this is the handmaid's tale and women on tuesday, may be looking down the barrel of a real life handmaid's tale i mean, the whole common let about i didn't think of hands male

tell hands made tale, you know, his kind of like women will be happy. >> they will be healthy, they will be free they will no longer have to think about abortion. that's all they talk about right now. >> he read that off a prompter too, who writes that i mean, much less what he says, but it reflects i think in attitude, it's interesting because he's saying this just at a time when the harris campaign began, a very impactful and on abortion rights and reproductive rights with video of him will you remember back to the first campaign when he said, women should be punished who have abortions and chris matthews because he was doing that interview, asked him again do you think women should be punished? women who have and he said, yes, they should be punished. so that is aside from the sort of the juxtaposition of how he behaves and what he says there is this patronising tone until now, back then was

like shocking. but it seemed impossible. but now what we've seen in the country, it suggests that he's followed through on his on his belief about tharon. >> i mean, it's also just interesting that trump would just flat out say yeah, his advisors warned him against making those comments. but i guess he thinks this is a sign of his brilliance or strength, or i don't know what that he goes ahead and makes them again strategy is behind it, and i think the strategy in the closing days should be talking to voters about what matters to them. feel like i've been saying this for months. apparently i'm just on repeat. you need to be talking about the economy. you need to be talking about immigration. but also, let's remember here that while we're talking about donald trump's comments, there are still comments coming from the other campaign denigrating women. i heard mark cuban today say while he was sitting on a private jet that donald trump doesn't have any smart, intelligent women around him ever. i think susie wiles donald trump's campaign manager, might vehemently

disagree with that notion. i think laura trump as the rnc co-chair, might disagree with that notion. and i think linda mcmahon, the head over it america first, which is the policy portion of what trump's team is trying to do might disagree with that notion in the closing days, both campaigns are going to be taking these clips and moving them aggressively to try and drive out more voters. that's what everybody is going to do. and if you heard donald trump today and you're republican and you're a woman. you said, yeah, he's gonna be my fighter. that's what i signed up for. and if you're a democrat or were you are a woman that cleaning against him, you're going to say the same thing that's the guy i completely expected to see there. and now it's about getting the message out to the press. erin, obviously, mark cuban riding on a plane. he is not donald trump. this is the candidate who wants to be president mark cuban, i guess is a surrogate or is a supporter of harris, who's out there just speaking i hear what you're saying but this is sitting president of the united states tried right? >> who immediately tried to clean up what he said, which

which, which immediate he immediately tried to clean up what he what he said i voters. can make of that decision, but this candidate has never tried to clean up what he said. he has now just repeated it that's a problem. >> i think that doubling down is a misstep by the campaign. it's not a problem for a candidate ever to acknowledge fault and to admit change for any candidate in any situation then lebron james, i think has has now endorsed kamala harris, is that a big i think i think it's a big deal if you do just want to say the risk of being controversial, i do think that women need to be protected from people like donald trump being donald trump is exactly the kind of person that women and tried to protect themselves from someone who has no respect to has no regard who won't listen. >> and so i think that mark cuban should not have said that, but he may have been thinking about laura loomer more than us thinking about the women that were just discussed but lebron james coming out as

a big deal because the ad he posted is so powerful. i mean, he posted an ad that if you if you're an african-american person and you were thinking about thinking about, thinking about voting for donald trump. you would probably keep your mouth shut of the dinner table because the ad he posted goes after every single things come out of donald trump's mouth, that would offend any self-respecting black man or a woman. and. i think it's a very big deal. and it's a lot of attention on him right now because his son a plate with him so that lebron james always dominant is even more dominant. the public, public is that an ad put out by the harris campaign's i don't know where it came from i've never seen it any place except on his thing and he wrote, what are we even talking about here? i am proud to endorse communist think is it too late? >> and do you think, you know, i guess it's if it's aimed at black men, is will people actually pay attention to i think because the black men that were most worried about probably not early voters. and

so i do think that there are a number of younger african-american men who have not gone to vote. and so you're going to see a big, just like you're seeing a big push in the latin community. you going to be a big push in the black me to get the folks here very, very passionate about trump. they've already voted. you're very passionate about commonly probably already voted the people who might vote for trump have not voted this is a, i encourage everybody to look at lebron's and other people. you should be doing ads like lebron james david i want to play something that jd vance said on joe rogan's podcast and trump won just the normal gay guy vote because again, they just wanted to be left the hell alone. and now you have all this crazy stuff on top of it. if you are a middle-class or upper middle-class, white parent and the only we think that you care about is whether your child goes into harvard or yale. like obviously that pathway has become a lot harder for a lot of upper middle-class

kids. but the one way that those people can participate in the dei, bureaucracy in this country is to be trans having surgery an already i get into these colleges i listen. >> i mean, i know parents will go really far to get the kid into a good school. and jd vance, by the way, knows something about yeah ding, you're using something like yes. >> yes. yes, he got some preferences because of his background in his story guess keep people are now accepted this to me was that was like, oh at events thinks there's normal gait, people's. >> so i guess that is sort of progress. >> i'm curious to know what the different how, where's the line is between a normal gait

person and a not-normal game per say. i mean, the question is that i'm assuming i can guess what it is like you know, anything related to drag, i guess you know that drag wearing as much makeup as donald trump where that would be considered not normal it's fine for donald trump, but it on a gay guy that wouldn't be considered the other point is the one that erin was making is this the way they want to close a campaign? is this really what they want to be talking payne. i mean, they had been running these trans ads, but they've also been focused on the economy and immigration and so on and all of these detours or not the way you want to be closing a campaign and it i mean, i know a lot of normal gay guy break i haven't heard a lot of them breaking this way. yeah. >> jd vance knows them to it as a parent that just went through the whole college process with the two children. i just have to admit that i never thought about having them be trans to

have an upper edge to get into college. so i think that's a disservice to people who go through this personally within their families sure that, you know, it's not easy because of the way that you're treated. when you come forward. and so to say that people are actually going to go through this process to get him to school is crazy. >> and i just want to point out in case jd as forgotten, he went to yale. there are no shortage of upper middle-class white kids at our ivy league schools. this idea that if you're upper middle hello, clap, good, you could not get it. please go anybody i believe school they are everywhere. so that is not happening. legacies and something that would then have the last name of the bill of the buildings are going which by the way, yeah, me actually don't cooper, but my mind van jones, gretchen carlson, david axelrod end for any thanks so much, we should note that david 600th episode of the axe files podcast is now out. i was honored to be a part of it. i got to interview david on his podcast about the 600 episode. you can listen to right now to cnn.com. we've talked about and are going to

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what the dynamics are in the final days of the campaign. let's just quickly take a look at north carolina. remember 2020? this was donald trump's narrowest width of his red states, right? joe biden was pretty competitive there. it's on the board this time for the vice president then georgia, of course, famously 11,779 votes. so what did we learn in these new polls? look at this when you come out here and you look at the enthusiasm for your candidates, you voting for your candidate, or are you voting against your candidate? lot of democrats early in this campaign were saying they were voting against trump more than they were voting even for president biden when he was the candidate. look to trump basis for trump, we've known that since 2016. you see those high numbers, but this is interesting. these are better numbers for the vice president that we have seen in other battleground states. essentially 70% or more than two thirds of her supporters say it's about for her not a vote against trump. now why is that? north carolina and georgia? have to of the large, largest black voting populations. that is the democratic base. they were energized by the switch to kamala harris. they are the key if she's going to pull off wins in those states, that is the key and you say anderson, they're enthusiastic. they're in it for her, not just against trump and what are voters

saying about the biden administration's bonds to hurricanes? >> helene, which obviously impacted both georgia and north carolina >> look at these numbers and i'll bring them up here. you see the high disapproval, but is not a majority, but it's a high number in the 40s, 44% in georgia, 47%, nearly half in north carolina disapproving of the biden administration's response to the hurricane now, why is that? you've covered it on the program. there has been a lot of misinformation, a lot of disinformation. and frankly, from president trump and his allies, a lot of lies about the administration's response. there. if you talk to local officials on the ground, democrats and republicans, they will say the administration's done a pretty good job. there always hiccups, but they've done a good job and they've been on the ground getting supplies there, but you see that? number 47% in north carolina disapproved. well, guess what happened today in north carolina, the harris campaign would up with a new ad from the popular democratic governor, roy cooper, talking about his relationship with her and saying in the end, she will help the state recover from the hurricane. the harris campaign clearly sees these numbers and i'm going to deal with and what that new ad.

>> and in georgia, north carolina alayna, i mean, are they is is it statistically tied here overall? all the battlegrounds, every one of these battlegrounds i'm going to flip the map here just to show you and come up to our race to 270, you're seeing all seven of those, all seven of those yellow states on the map. those in the battleground states, they are all within a point or two. no clear leader. our polling shows the vice president a little bit ahead in michigan and wisconsin. other polls when you average them, essentially shows this is within a point or two either way, even if you have a two or three point lead if you're still in play in the final days, that's what makes this. we're five days out. anderson. that's what makes this race so fascinating and your michigan tonight for stop in your five-day tour battleground states how close the race there again, look at this one. >> here's a brand new want from the washington post tonight, 47 for harris, 46th for trump, right? so again, statistically that's a tie. it's a dead heat. and again, as i've said, i'm a broken record on your program, but i always say average them out if you can don't invest in any one poll. so if you look at the cnn poll of polls that takes the five most recent reputable polls here in the state of michigan. and what do you have this one

does show slight advantage for harris. no clear leader. you're not outside the margin of error, but you'd rather be at 48 than 45. and i can tell you just being here on the ground, we're talking about a little bit later in the program, i can talk a beat on the ground. people did democrats here feel better now than they did even just a few weeks ago when i was here. again though the testicle tie heading into the final five days, not just here in michigan, but across the battlegrounds. here we go. john king. thanks john. be back shortly with the report on a michigan voters and he's been talking to over the last year joining us now is harris campaign senior advisor david plouffe, who we should mention ran former prison obama's 2008 campaign. so david, there you seen new poll numbers georgia, north carolina. i mean, at this point or do you do care about i mean, are you paying attention to these polls well, i try not to pay too much attention. >> any poll that's not our own anderson but i think our data is consistent with what the public date is. i think what probably the trump date is, which is his close race in seven thanks i would just point something out on one of the reasons that we're optimistic

is let's say your poll, our poll we think are racist. 48474747 that's not 100% of the vote so the question is the people who have not yet decide who to vote for, who are actually going to vote. and our senses in the last week, the people who've made up their mind and last week, were doing quite well with and we like the people who've yet to make a decision in terms of who, who they look like from a data perspective and what they saw hope report in terms of who they're more likely to vote for. so that's important in the early vote that we're seeing so far. we are on pace in all seven states to reach the number we think we need combined with election day turnout but it's very important to look at who those undecideds obviously a campaign like ours has a lot of sophisticated data. we look at it's every day you do quantitative research, qualitative research. but as we look at how hundred percent of the vote is going to get allocated in the seven battleground states. we think we have an advantage over the trump camp we're looking at live vice president harris at

her event in reno comments like the ones that trump made about protecting women, whether they like it or not. his rally, this on sunday with a deeply offensive comments to jews, black people, latinos, and puerto ricans do those have an impact this late in a race they do. >> it's a terrible way to close the presidential campaign and what's clear to me is, you know, trump will go out there. you've seen anastomose the last day, him complaining, having temper tantrums about things that aren't true in pennsylvania is because i'm sure he was briefed by his team that they don't like the pennsylvania numbers. he gets brief that he has real trouble with women voters. we saw this in 20, we're seeing now. this is how we react in a way that doubles down and exacerbates its problems yeah. and listen, we spent a lot of time with voters were at their doors when their communities. we also do a lot of qualitative research we're listening to these undecided voters. every hour of every day. and in madison

square garden thing really broke through because what i've learned in politics is when something is consistent with what people think about you, they think that he's about chaos and division so that doubles down. the other thing we're picking up on cnn. i spent some time on this in some of our discussions with undecided voters this notion that not notion trump's eddies can put rfk jr. in charge of all the health care in the country that greatly worries. he's few percent of voters who haven't yet decided to vote because they don't think rfk you should be in charge of our health care. but it driving part of this race, anderson is people are concerned that all the people that tried to check trump last time are now speaking out against him, warning the country that it would be dangerous and he's going to be surrounded by the rfks of the world and that very much concerns these voters who were still making their decision closing days. >> speaker johnson just yesterday or two days ago said, no obamacare he's now trying to walk that back. >> do you buy this theory that

sort of whispered by salam, i guess pushed by some, that there may be large numbers or a significant amount of women voters who support harris, but are not saying so publicly and their families were to pollsters well, listen, we're being very conservative in our own day. >> i think we've learned that in 16 and 2020, you get trump, trump a lot of strength, both in terms of his turnout and a support scores. so that we can run the kind of campaign overcome that. but i think if i'm sorry. surprised by anything on election night, it will be that differs than the data world saying, is that maybe we do a point or two better with women across the board. and obviously they're more than 50% of the vote. we're seeing they're turning out in large numbers in early vote so i think there's a potential for that for sure. and i think that would be with independent women voters and republican women voters. so in comments like trump made yesterday about protecting women, whether they wanted to go not it's like nails on a chalkboard for these voters.

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and promoting lies about a ars d they made a lot of money off it. none of it was true. and now it seems they are gearing up, doing it again, cnn's donie o'sullivan has more now on the multifront plan, some trump supporters had to contest the election it's like how much can they get away with in order to prevent trump from winning? >> do you think he's going to win if we have a fair election?

yes. >> there's no way he can lose fairly, fairly. >> there's no way maga world is preparing its followers for a stolen election. >> we're just going to announce. harris is the winner. we're gonna go, we win again and now try to stop us. >> again and what's different this time is we're going to be able to stop them about here in north carolina, right? >> nation back by necessary yeah. yeah. yeah. >> they're laying out step-by-step plan to overturn a potential harris victory about the these are not random trump supporters. these are influential figures in the maga movement. >> it's all going to depend on what they end up doing. i have a plan and strategy for every single component of it. and then january 6 is going to be pretty funny. >> many of them like ivan raiklin and michael flynn have huge audiences online and are involved in election denying groups that have spent millions of dollars furthering election conspiracy theories and we

should know by tuesday night, by about nine or 10:00 at night, that one party won election officials across the country have explained that we likely won't know the full results on election ice to conspiracy theorists, however, that is a sign of fraud in this case. i strongly believe that donald trump if this thing is a fair election he'll win all 50 states. >> now if it's legit, we don't have to worry, right? well, who thinks it's going to be legit? you think they're just going to give it to you know, this is gonna be a fight. >> raiklin has encouraged people to pressure their state representatives not to certify election results if they suspect fraud, we tried to play fair they still are state legislators are final stop to guarantee eight checkmate. be prepared on january 1, to apply the maximum motivation to your state rep state centers in north carolina. he and another right-wing activists are going

as far to say there should be no election because of the destruction after hurricane helene, they say the republican controlled state legislature should decide which presidential candidates gets their electoral college. votes. we don't have to do this popular vote in the state stuff for this federal election. >> we don't have to do it. >> you got to 120 house reps how many of those are republican? >> the. majority how about a significant majority so then. how is the house body you're going to likely vote with your motivation for the republican nominee. and what about the senate? >> majority. the idea >> and extreme, but a republican congressman endorsed the idea. i'm an event, what raiklin you've got disenfranchised in 25 counties. you know what that vote probably would have been,

which, which would be firing the lead. so i did not to go. yeah. we've got convened the legislature we can't before eventually walking it back, the idea that the only way harris can win is if the election is stolen, is being pushed across hundreds of maga, media outlets from the former president himself because they cheat. >> that's the only way we're going to lose because they cheat and it's convincing his base. >> what if the results show that harris one, do you think trump will accept that i don't think anybody will accept up because we know it's going to be a lie but but but if that's what it is, what it is, what we'll go from there we'll see what happens. >> so i just don't think that trump's going to lose. >> you think he won last time oh, definitely. what happens if he loses if he loses? we're all going down january 6 donie o'sullivan joins me now. i mean, a lot of the people who are pushing this, i mean, mike flynn, these guys are making money off this, right? oh, they sure are anderson. yeah. were even spoke last night about how rudy giuliani and the pillow

guy or selling coffee and pillows and everything else? so look, there is money, there's money to be made in this grif there's money to be made in selling fear and also a lot of these folks are also telling their viewers that the fed is about to collapse the dollar about to collapse. so therefore, put all your life saving and gold and silver in the alex jones is of the world telling people to buy for freeze dry food. but look, i think what's more important here is the money that is behind these guys that you're seeing in that piece, the degrees of separation between them and the trump campaign. it's there's not many steps, right they are involved in groups that have tens of millions of dollars behind them collectively in terms of challenging it challenging integrity in elections and pushing debunked election conspiracy theories. so these guys are serious donie o'sullivan, thanks so much joining me now is new york democratic congressman dan goldman. >> it is remarkable that all

these lies that were told for years ago, which just proven thrown out of court. nothing to it are just being repeated now yeah. >> the difference is they're very specific, right now about what how the the i mean, not necessarily about how the fraud will happen, but that there will be fraud and there is fraud without specifying what it is, of course. but this is before the election, were five days before the election. so the difference is, this is a very premeditated plan. they have filed lawsuits in numerous courts because they ran into problems last time in their view with standing, meaning that they had no claim to actually make, that there was fraud. so they're filing all of these lawsuits preemptively so that they can then follow up it is clearly a much more sophisticated scheme. it is much more well thought out it

could be worse this time because it's more sophisticated, more well-thought out >> i what i think that it is going to be more advanced and more sophisticated whether but i also think the states are better prepared certainly congress tried to shore up some of these rules with electoral count act of 2022 but there's no question that this is the plan. and do hear trump laying the foundation for it. all betty and i just the notion that a head kamala harris cannot win a free and fair election is so preposterous the i want to play something that the former president addressed to mike johnson at his rally in madison square garden. the other day i think with our little secret, we're gonna do really well with the house, right? our little secret is having a big impact. he and i

have a secret we'll tell you what it is when the race is over speaker johnson released a statement or response saying by definition of seekers not to be shared and i don't tend to share this one later on, he downplayed it saying the secret actually about get-out-the-vote efforts do you have trust in the leadership the house to ensure the results of the election i have trust in the leadership of hakeem jeffries to certify the election i have no trust in mike johnson. >> mike johnson was the architect of an amicus brief that tried went to the supreme court to try to overturn the last election and he has been very clear that he is ready, willing, and able to serve donald trump the more interesting quote, in response to that statement was from the trump campaign they said oh, the little secret is just about tele-rallies that trump is having with about get out get-out-the-vote first of all, if he's doing get out the vote by tele-rallies, he should join the 21st century. there are much better and more effective ways of doing it. but more

importantly, that's a very routine and standard i think that's not a little secret for somebody who doesn't turn over his medical records, doesn't turn over his taxes has secret conversations with vladimir putin, et cetera, et cetera. so when my spidey years went up because when someone gives a completely implausible explanation, it begs a lot more questions. if mike johnson is the speaker of the house he could do a lot of things to mess with the certification of the electoral college. last time around, it was focused on vice president pence because nancy pelosi was the speaker of the house if it is the republicans, who have the majority after tuesday there all bets are off as to what they would be willing to do. >> guardsman dan goldman. thanks so much. appreciate it. still ahead. more from john king in battleground, michigan. he's talking about college students are helping to get out the vote for the two campaigns. what they have to say about the election in this final stretch, part of john's all over the

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electric brandon, his 21, a junior economics major from ohio, but he registered in michigan for his first vote for president. >> i was a sixth-grader when trump get elected in 16, and i watched him coming to the white house. i watched the inauguration i watched all the great things he did. >> trump struggled with young voters in 2016 and 2020. brandon predicts better numbers this time especially among young man kennedy and it his campaign and back-trump, i've heard a lot of young guys say, how much how important rfk was to their president trump vote ever since trump got a bra rfk onto the team, onto the campaign, a lot of young, young men voters really, really liked that and kind of resonate with rfk and what he's done in a dead heat race organization can be the difference halloween spirit helps. >> there's cookies treats as

well. >> well, you fill out one of our pledge to vote things. >> jade gray as a progressive organizer, former co-president of the college democrats here at the university of michigan back on campus to encourage early voting. >> we know that when we vote we win. and quite frankly, we're getting a lot of people out to vote, gray's optimism is a big shift. >> this is our fourth and arbor visit in a year back at the beginning, she was down about president biden's prospects in later, she was worried vice president harris would still lose to many young voters because of student anger over the israel hamas conflict. >> have you guys vote again? okay. >> thanks. >> but she is upbeat now and credits a mix of constant organizing and a smarter approach from the harris campaign. >> it was not dressed the candidate that switch but it was really their whole approach to the campaign. and leaning into this idea that memes and internet culture is a, you know, a mode of communicating about politics. totally transformed race. and i think will be one of the biggest reasons to, one of the biggest things we should credit i'm

saying when, but if she wins arbor. so what do the students say matters to them most from casting the road has been a shift now, you hear about student loan debt, you hear about the economy, you hear about their objections to trump and his rhetoric is rhetoric on lgbtq issues. >> his rhetoric on immigration issues. they think the vice president is younger. they think she's more hip, more interesting on the internet as you heard jade gray, their say there yeah, that's a very different mood that you heard jade gray at the end of my first trip here, anderson was a year ago. this is my fourth trip here. she was a lot more despondent then biden was the candidate. she would it's down even after the switch to harris, she was still about her chances, much more upbeat now because of activity on campus, as i just want to quickly bring in the wall and just show you. so were washed in our county that's where the university of michigan is earlier today, when you saw that young republican voter, we were up in ingham county. both of these counties are big blue counties. and on the college campuses, you see a lot of early voting. you do see a lot of energy and look, this

is a very tight competitive race, but the harris people feel better now than they it did just a few weeks ago and how does the war in gaza us play into all this that's a fascinating question because remember, i came back from one of my pieces here and i was with you in new york on the set when we were here, there was a big encampment and there was a big protest not only against the university administration, but against the biden administration that carried over, i guess the vice president, the university won't allow encampments anymore. so you don't physically see the anger i was talking to jade gray because he does a lot of online organizing. she says you do still see some of it online but she has convinced many of those students are still going to vote for harris, even though they're angry at the administration because they think trump would be even worse on those questions. anderson, john king, thanks. next i want you to hear from her remarkable woman. she's 93 and survive being sent to auschwitz when she was just 13. she's my guests in the latest episode of my podcast. all there is, you'll hear from her in a moment about how she survived and how she lives with unimaginable grief me at all

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in 1944, 80% of those people were killed immediately and gas chambers, marines, parents are three brothers from little sister edith. they were all murdered. there arena in her older sister survived. irene was just 13-years-old and the grief she's felt while she's felt at her entire life since then were, do you still feel that little girl at times? >> what did you do? bury her early on and that's a good question. that's actually a very good question. i'm stuck i'm really stuck there that's really the biggest fight and that's where all the grief is. >> have you been able to cry in subsequent years still not still not you know, people say broken heart

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