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all right 6 a.m. >> here on the east coast. a live look at detroit michigan. both campaigns heading to the wolverine state today. of course, a critical battleground ahead of tuesday's election. good morning, everyone. i'm kasie hunt. it's wonderful to have you with us. four days out from election day and former president donald trump is escalating his violent rhetoric, suggesting one of his most prominent critics, the former congresswoman liz cheney should be fired upon she's a radical war hawk. >> let's put her with a rifle. standing there with nine barrel shooting at her. okay let's see how she feels about it. you know when the guns are trained on her face, you know they're all war hawks when they're sitting in washington in a nice building saying, oh, gee will, let's send let's send 10,000 troops right into the mouth of the enemy. >> let's see how she feels when the guns are trained on her face. let's sit with that for a moment.

>> of course. violent rhetoric. it's not new for trump, but this stark imagery represents an escalation at a tense moment when the country is on edge, heading into tuesday, with 7 in 10 americans saying they feel anxious or frustrated about the election, according to a new ap poll. and it comes after trump has raised the specter of using the u.s. military on americans. he calls the enemy within. >> i think the bigger problem is the enemy from within. not even the people that have come in and destroying our country. by the way, totally destroying our country, the towns, the villages they're being inundated. but i don't think they're the problem in terms of election day i think the bigger problem are the people from within. we have some very bad people. we have some sick people. radical left lunatics. it should be very easily handled by, if necessary by national guard or if really necessary by the military throughout the last nearly ten years, with trump on the national stage, the public rhetoric has gotten darker and

more violent. >> with time the man that was was, i don't know, you say roughed up. >> he was so obnoxious and so loud. he was screaming. maybe he should have been roughed up because it was absolutely disgusting what he was doing that was during trump's first campaign. >> during his administration. he asked his national security team if he could shoot protesters he was speaking to general mark milley when he asked that question of, you know, can't you just shoot him? >> just shoot him in the legs or something? and i was, you know, shocked by it to hear this from the president of the united states saying that we shoot our fellow americans in the streets of the nation's capital that was donald trump's former defense secretary mark esper. >> after trump left office, he suggested the former chairman of the joint chiefs general mark milley, should possibly be executed. milley's phone call with the chinese to reassure them in the wake of the january sixth riot was, quote, an act

so egregious that in times gone by, the punishment would have been death. trump wrote on his social truth social platform. >> then came his 2024 campaign. after actual violence erupted at the capitol trying to prevent the certification of joe biden's 2020 win. >> ladies and gentlemen, please rise for the horribly and unfairly treated january sixth hostages. you see, the spirit from the hostages. and that's what they are as hostages. they've been treated terribly unbelievable patriots. and they were unbelievable patriots and are he called people put in jail for what they did that day quote. unbelievable patriots. and as the campaign has gone on, he has made these promises. >> i am your warrior. i am your justice. and for those who have been wronged and betrayed, i am your retribution. i am your retribution. and 2024 is the

final battle that's going to be the big one. >> this is the final battle. he says he's talking about the election happening four days from now. >> in her closing argument of this campaign, his opponent kamala harris, had this warning donald trump intends to use the united states military against american citizens who simply disagree with him that's where we are four days from election day in 2024. >> joining us now to discuss elliott williams, cnn legal analyst, former federal prosecutor jonah goldberg cnn political commentator, co-founder and editor in chief of the dispatch megan hayes, former director of message planning for the biden white house and brad todd, republican strategist and partner at the public strategy firm, on message. welcome to all of you. jonah goldberg, i'd like to start with you. as we sort of take in the comments that he had about liz cheney last night suggesting that she be fired

upon, see how she likes it. what does this mean at this point in the election cycle? >> yeah. >> well, i mean, i feel like we're triggering brad, who works for a company called on message that he is not exactly on message here um, look uh, i don't think you even need to call it fired upon. he's saying quite explicitly and unambiguously that liz cheney should be shot, should be executed by firing squad. that is appalling. it is a small facet of of the reasons why he's unfit for office. and the republican party has made a disastrous mistake re nominating him all that said, since we're here for the punditry, um i don't know what this gets him. right. if if his problem is freaking out suburban women who don't like the chaos don't like the violent rhetoric and all that kind of stuff, that's just not a great closing argument. let's execute a political opponent who happens to be a woman because i don't like her

and like, does that pull more low propensity voters in his coalition to the polls? i honestly don't think so but maybe they have some data that says otherwise. >> i just if access hollywood did not have an impact in rendering this individual unfit to be elected president of the united states, and then forget everything that happened. >> no, no, no. but but but but okay, then let's forget what happened for the next four years or so. if january 6th and the rhetoric there did not render this individual unfit for office and people are still have open questions about donald trump, then i don't know what else is going to move the needle. and to jonah's point, this is there is no defending that rhetoric we can try to both sides anything that anybody says but that's that was quite explicit what he said there. um, i just you would have a hard time selling a jury that that's what he. i would not have a hard time selling a jury. that that's what he said.

although it was a statement made out of court might be hearsay, so i don't know. but anyway, i'm going to say this in the backwards order because. so i can get it all out i don't think that all first of all, i agree with liz cheney on foreign policy more than i agree with donald trump on some of these questions, or at least historically i have. he was talking about their difference on foreign policy. liz cheney is a hawk. if you listen to the rest of the biden he says she always wanted to go to war with people. i don't want to go to war with people. he was saying if she was the one that had to go into infantry combat maybe she would see it differently. that's a critique democrats have made about dick cheney and other hawks, but they're staring at nine barrels. you think that that's. >> yes. he's talking about going or going to war now. let's go now. let's go to donald >> he this is why he's in a close race. he's ahead in every target state this morning enough to get to 70. in the new york times poll, which is not exactly a friendly poll to him saying things like this in this way, he'd be ahead by 6 or 7 if he didn't do that, if he was talking about the economy this week, if he was talking about crime and the border and things

that this administration has failed on i mean, yes, he does not choose his words very well. no, jonah, he is not on message, but he's about he is about to win. he's about to win it despite the way he talks. that tells you how unpopular this administration is. >> i disagree i don't think he's going to win, but i also think this is going to get people who are conservative republicans to just stay home. they might not go vote for the vice president, but they are going to stay home. this is such reprehensible language over and over and over again and i agree with you, elliott. nothing is moving the needle but i do think these people are just going to stay home. i just don't think they're going to vote for him and i don't think these people want a president that acts like this. >> this is not someone you want representing the united states in foreign countries. >> so is the new democratic strategist. to get people not to vote, stay home. is that. no, i'm saying that this type of language makes people want to stay home and not go out and vote for him. i'm not saying it's a strategy by any be clear, everybody should vote. >> well and i don't think they're not going to vote for down ballot races. i don't

think they're going to continue to vote for him. >> i brad, i love you. um, no, no no, no. >> that's always the opening line. >> like, oh boy, here we go. however, no disrespect. hello. >> here we go however, my love. um, no is that what you want? like. and i and this is the question that i would ask of anybody who's not even defending the former president, but set aside the the economy, the tax cuts, the the supreme court justices and so on. is this what you want running the country and representing the united states on a global stage? >> i think where the american people are right now is they don't want more of what we're doing. >> sure. and that's what they don't want. and that's that's the choice they have to make on tuesday. do they want more of what we're doing or do they want some something that's perhaps different than what we're doing? and that's the this is all elections with an incumbent party are referendums on them. sure. >> and if what we're doing is inflation, that is that is several points higher than we want it is the alternative that on the global stage that kind

of rhetoric, that kind of treatment of. >> so look, it's not just rhetoric okay. no, no, that's the thing. and this is where i trip jonah, because i had so many republicans, i was covering congress for the entirety of the trump administration, right and i have always found that there are people that i greatly respect who are public servants on both sides of the aisle and many of the people that i respected the most on the republican side would say, i mean, they'd say one thing in private, in public. they would say, you know what? it's it's going to be okay. he just talks like this. nothing is actually going to happen. and because these were people who had been respected public servants for a long time, i believed many of them, even as in private, they would say, i'm actually a little bit more concerned about this than i'm willing to let on publicly but then we hit january sixth, and there literally were people tearing, breaking the windows, you know, bear spraying the cops. several of the cops died in the aftermath of the thing and it became very implausible in my mind. and and the president of the united states at that time,

donald trump, who any president is supposed to be the president for all americans, right this mob is attacking the building, attacking the democracy, attacking the people inside there. and he does nothing. he sends no one for hours for hours. so when i listen to something like this, it doesn't feel hypothetical to me. it doesn't feel like just language. yeah no, look, i agree with that. and this is one of the reasons why i think that the the best case scenario that a lot of my pro-trump friends on the right conjure, which is oh, we know what his presidency is going to be like. it's going to be a replay of the first one is so wrong because, as we've learned from the stuff from john kelly and and esper, some of which you played here and a lot of other people, there was a whole pretorian guard of the kind of people you're talking about that you covered on the hill, what i used to call closet normals, right where they actually weren't trumpy. they just had to say this stuff in the public in front of cameras and microphones. but then behind the scenes, there's like, you know, you paul ryan would say this often. he's

like, you wouldn't believe the things that we stopped him from doing. >> he called himself the ballast in the ship of state at the time. >> and so now we have a whole. donald trump has gotten older. crankier more weirdly, more confident and surrounded by a coterie of sycophants and enablers. and you're not going to get the bars, never mind the sessions or or the kelly's going into the white house. you're going to get the same the whole bunch of the remoras, you know, which are the creatures that stick to the side of the sharks that live down in mar-a-lago every day that, you know, the suckerfish that live in mar-a-lago, who go around saying, you know, sir, you are the greatest genius who's ever lived. and it's going to be a bunch of enablers and i think that that is something that people just don't appreciate. >> using the example of jeff sessions, an unabashed conservative who did not make it on account of straying from the former president. i do ask the question, what will it take to be fired from the next administration, like given the kinds of assuming it is donald

trump? you know, if those are the folks he's putting around him? >> well, he's also said if you read there's a very interesting interview he did with david rubenstein for rubenstein's book about presidents and rubenstein repeatedly asks him, what's the thing that you learned in the white house? and he repeatedly says, you have to hire people who are going to basically do what you want to do. and there are echoes of jeff sessions that we've now spent 13 minutes talking about people's hesitations with donald trump. he's currently a little more popular than kamala harris. if you look at fav unfav ratios. we've not talked about anything about what people's hesitations are about her she has said she will not do anything different from joe biden. she's not renounced the left on any major policy. she has aides sometimes say hint maybe i won't be that bad. but she herself won't say she was wrong when she took the leftmost position. voters know both these people. they have hesitations about both identifying policy differences with come. no, no. i mean, i think you're identifying what in a normal election would have been. romney versus obama. they disagree on these things

there's a stylistic or tonal difference here. you're talking about fundamental existential questions. >> policy is an existential question, though. >> we're not talking about her because she's not threatening to kill her. someone who doesn't agree with her. you don't hear her out there saying that she's going to take a firing squad at someone who doesn't agree with her. that is why we are not talking to her because the language is reprehensible and abhorrent and not what our country stands for. and we should not be electing someone that's just. i just don't understand how we can be electing someone, or that he's so popular that this is what we want to elect america like for, to represent america. i just it just doesn't make a lot of sense. >> well, if she had moved far off the far left positions and rebuked the left she would be winning. >> i just disagree with you and i just think that they're very different. >> i agree with brad about that jonah has spoken. she's a terrible she's a i think she's a terrible candidate. i don't agree with her policies, but i'm sort of within the pj o'rourke position she's unacceptable. but within normal parameters. and donald trump is unacceptable outside of normal parameters. and therein lies all the difference it is a terrible choice for a conservative like me. um, i'm

glad i live in washington, d.c. so i don't have to vote for any of them, and it doesn't matter. but um, i think that the the where i agree with elliott is there's an asymmetry between saying she's really bad on policy and he's really bad about talking about using the military against americans. and you did come in here, brad, saying, i'm so thankful for the constitution. it means the voting is going to have to stop on the day after the constitution does guarantee this in so at least there's that. >> all right. coming up here on cnn this morning, why jd vance thinks the republican ticket can win. what he calls, quote, normal. the normal gay guy vote. plus, the new tactics that some vulnerable democrats running for senate are deploying to keep their seats. and if this election cycle has made you anxious, you are not alone. doctor sanjay gupta here to talk about how to navigate it all people throughout the country, um as the polls have tightened over these last few days, it's

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the fact that he is a democrat tester is embracing really donald trump, and he is not alone as democrats fight to maintain control of the senate with an electoral map that very much favors republicans incumbents in red or swing states aren't hugging their own party's presidential nominee, kamala harris. >> just watch this ad from pennsylvania senator bob casey i'm a republican and i'm a democrat. >> our marriage pure bliss but in politics, we just don't agree except for bob casey. he's independent. casey bucked biden to protect fracking, and he sided with trump to end nafta and put tariffs on china to stop them from cheating. >> all right brad todd, you do a lot of work on these senate races. and this is really notable. these senate candidates that are running in these states are running. seems away from harris and in some cases toward trump completely embrace them. i'm working on that race in pennsylvania for dave mccormick. and, you know you can tell bob casey is in trouble, like john tester, when they take someone who basically their party has called hitler

and donald trump and they're saying, oh, but he's a healthy collaborator with us on legislation. it's it's it just doesn't go together. it also tells you where the race is in these swing states. i mean, tammy baldwin in wisconsin has done it. sherrod brown in ohio has done it. bob casey in pennsylvania has done it all. these democrat incumbent senators rushing to tell voters honest to god, i can work with donald trump. what does that tell you about the presidential race? >> yeah let's watch that that ad that tammy baldwin put up. she's, of course, in wisconsin, this senate race tighter than i think a lot of people expected at this point watch wisconsin jobs. >> so i wrote a law to require american infrastructure projects use american iron and steel tammy baldwin got president trump to sign made in america bill i mean, jonah it's the writing is in is in the ads. i guess. yeah someone showed me the other day some lawn signs in arizona that say trump gallego um, which is kind of interesting gallego being

the democratic senate. >> it's entirely possible that's how it goes in arizona. oh, for sure. i mean, the gallego the trump gallego voter is a real constituency in arizona partly because kari lake is so terrible. but, um uh, and partly because he's a marine. so he's got some cross-cultural appeal. but look, look, i think brad's point is entirely right is that you have there's been a sort of there's been a shift from the the shift of the fdr coalition has accelerated, really dramatically recently. and that means you're going to get a bunch of people who are sort of traditional democrats who like trump and a lot of these traditional democrats who have not had difficult races in the past, are stuck trying to figure out how to navigate those waters. >> keep in mind, most of these senators did not vote with donald trump. they voted 98% with joe biden. they don't vote with republicans. they don't talk like republicans, except when they're right next to the election. so that is a little bit of a different switch, too. >> all right coming up next

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you and i are going to get to talk anxious to know what you think here in the final days where this race stands, where we're headed. candidly, i feel like we may be in the calm before the storm, but you tell me if you disagree. >> thank you for having me. i've looked forward to these monday friday morning get togethers i really have. the big question on my mind is donald trump underperforming again in the polls because you know what happened in 2016? you know what happened in 2020. in three runs for the presidency, he's never been in this strong of a position, even though you wouldn't say that he's leading. but if the polls are off, as they were in the last two cycles, then he wins. or is there some level of overcompensation by the polling outfits because of what went wrong in 2016 and 2020? me i look at all the data like you, i know the polls. the polls say margin of error stuff in the battleground states. she's probably ahead in the national polls by a hillary margin, not

by a biden margin. the betting markets favor him. is that because the bro vote is laying a lot of crypto on donald trump? i don't know. the stock market seems to suggest it's an incumbent's election that would be harris. the cultural touchstones is it a ted lasso world or is it a yellowstone world that's more subjective? the pundits, you know, the two nate's, the fivethirtyeight and in the end, casey, nothing would shock me if you said that. that harris ekes out a victory. it wouldn't shock me if she wins convincingly. it wouldn't shock me if he ekes out a victory or wins convincingly. that wouldn't shock me either go vote. it's fun to talk about all this stuff. it's insightful, it's important. but in the end, we don't know. >> yeah i mean, look, it's honestly the best part is that it's at the end of the day, it's up to the voters. and as much as we can try to figure out what they're collectively thinking, my gosh the number of times that they've surprised us in recent election cycles. but look, michael, i'm so glad you raised the question of how

or whether the polls are capturing accurately what the electorate is going to be because you rightly point out that mistakes were made in recent previous years. the pollsters have tried to compensate for understanding that there are more sort of hidden trump voters, right there is this question, though, liz cheney and other female politicians have been out saying there is a secret female vote, right, that there are women out there who are not telling their husbands, they're not telling their families, they're not telling the pollsters that they don't like donald trump, and that that may make one of those scenarios where harris wins by a little or by a lot more likely. i want to show you a little bit of how charlie kirk and jesse watters, two figures on the right, have been talking about this possibility. and get your take. watch this. >> it is the embodiment of the downfall of the american family. she's coming in with her sweet husband, who probably

works his tail off to make sure that she can go, you know, and have a nice life and provides for the family and then she lies to him saying, oh yeah, i'm going to vote for trump. and then she votes for kamala harris as her little secret in the voting booth. >> and if i found out emma was going into the voting booth and pulling the lever for harris, that's the same thing as having an affair that violates the sanctity of our marriage. >> yes. what else is she keeping from me, exactly? what else has she been lying about? why would i'm interested in your reaction to how those two spoke about this particular topic, but secret vote exists in the first place, it might. >> i mean, i think that the harris campaign believes that it does hopes that it does. so much so that, you know, of the julia roberts commercial, which i thought was pretty effective. it's a week of hysteria. thank god it's friday. when i think about, you know all that has taken place this week. and i am not minimizing the comedian at madison square garden. the joke was appalling. they should have flagged it. trump should have immediately come out and

condemned it but to go from that to the garbage truck the white house apparently manipulating the transcript with the apostrophe reminds me of that book eats, shoots and leaves mark cuban and the comments that he made about the. i think in the end this is all a wash i really believe it's a wash. allan lichtman he of the 13 keys, said to me yesterday on radio. in the end, it's about governance and how well the incumbent party has been governing. i think there's some truth in that. but soon we're going to find out. i just hope in the end it's clear, because i'm fearful of what next wednesday, thursday, friday saturday look like. and it's kind of funny, casey, because you've got philly and i've got philly burb cred. it's amazing to be living where i'm living, watching what i'm watching, and to see that it might all come down to the very area where i have spent all of my 62 years. >> yeah, it is actually a remarkable reality. i feel that way too obviously i'm not. i'm not living there at the moment like you are. michael how? i mean, we're going to talk to

sanjay gupta later in the show about the sort of levels of anxiety that are going on around this election. do you think that anxiety is warranted is it warranted? >> i think it exists. is it warranted? i don't know, i would like to think that our system has guardrails. some would say it barely held four years ago, but i think we're in a position where we can control this outcome. i just think it's very important to continue to remind the public that tuesday night might not tell us who the victor is, and that doesn't mean that there was any tomfoolery involved. it just means that the way in which we run our elections is like we create a pop up starbucks every four years with a largely volunteer force. and guess what? stuff's going to happen. and when stuff happens on a minor level, it doesn't mean that there's a major pattern of fraud or some type of of chicanery. so everybody just cool down, have a cocktail settle in. it could be a long couple of days. >> it could indeed and we will be here 24 hours a day on cnn

until we figure out what the answer to that question is. michael smerconish. so grateful to have you. thank you so much. thank you. as always. thank you. >> yes. and come back next friday because we're gonna have a lot to talk about for our viewers. remember to turn into smerconish tomorrow morning, 9 a.m. eastern, right here on cnn. >> all right. coming up here on cnn this morning, the normal gay guy vote, senator jd vance explains how he believes trump will win a very specific voting bloc i wouldn't be surprised if me and trump won just the normal gay guy vote, because again, they just wanted to be left the hell alone during this election. >> stay with cnn with more reporters on the ground and the best political team in the business, follow the candidates follow the voters. follow the facts. follow cnn. >> we've always loved taking care of our home, but last year, grandpa here broke his arm. we realized some home

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incentives around people who identify as transgender. watch if you are a you know, middle class or upper middle class white parent, and the only thing that you care about is whether your child goes into harvard or yale, like, obviously that pathway has become a lot harder for a lot of upper middle class kids. but the one way that those people can participate in the di bureaucracy in this country is to be trans. if you become trans, that is the way to reject your white privilege okay panel is back. um, jonah goldberg, what do you make of what he said here stipulating that clearly this cultural issue of transgender people has been a message that the trump campaign has put a lot of money behind and that they think does resonate with some voters. >> yeah look, i'm a i'm a i'm a

persistent critic of jd vance i don't i don't like the way he necessarily phrased these things or talked these things. >> i think a lot of people actually understand what he's getting at. um, the higher education establishment there is this, um there is there is this widespread understanding as someone who sent their kid to college and went through that process and all my friends who have that age with their kids that there are certain shibboleths or what the sociologist rob henderson would call luxury beliefs that if you put in your college essay that if you identify in some way that pings on the radar of identity politics it is it is it is an added value in the application process. now, whether it's identifying as trans, you know i don't whatever i think non-binary is one of these fashionable terms that the kids these days like to use a lot but jonah goldberg, kamala, not a kid these days. >> yes, exactly. >> i wasn't even a kid when i was a kid. so like um, it's like my only point is i think

he's getting at something that a lot of people, it's sort of like everyone talks about, you know, don't take trump literally. take him seriously. that kind of applies to what he's dog whistling and talking about there. there's a real thing there that i think a lot of people understand. even if you can easily nitpick the language that he's using. and i say this as a non jd vance fan. now but the thing is, you can say the words d or the letters d, i in the context of college applications, all you want but just look at the data and right now i believe it's 60% of college students i think. >> and don't quote me on the number are first generation college students um, colleges go out of their way to draw people from diverse places in the country, and so getting being trans is going to get you into college. being a white kid from kentucky whose parents didn't go to college will get you into college. and so it's a little bit it's a point system across the spectrum. no, no, but i agree with you on the point that it's not just this sort of lefty quote, but i don't want to overvalue the trans point. but the simple fact is it is a little rich hearing that from jd vance. now, it's a point that works. >> it's a it's a point that

works. and people hear the letters. d i people hear about the idea, the vestiges of affirmative action over years are sort of in people's heads, and it whips them up but is there a normal gay guy vote? uh, well, i think there's a taxpayer vote, and i think that's probably what he's talking about. but, you know, this transgender agenda question, this is a place where republicans have about 80% of the country agreeing with their position democrats are in. the democrats, like kamala harris, are in like the 20% position. the more that that topic is up this week, the better it is for republicans up and down the ballot this is i mean, i think it's a fear tactic that republicans are using. >> and i think that then donald trump steps on himself and says he wants to shoot liz cheney. so, i mean i don't think it gets very far all right. >> coming up next here on cnn this morning keeping their advantage with women, how the harris campaign seizing on donald trump's comments about protecting women, quote, whether they like it or not end quote. plus is the election stressing you out? you are not alone. doctor sanjay gupta is here to help us all cope with it i'm ready for it to be over. >> yeah, and it's getting more

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was one large and important group of voters on their mind women. kamala harris, looking to drive up her sizable advantage with female voters seizing on the former president's recent comment that he would protect women, quote whether the women like it or not, this is the same man who said women should be punished for their choices.

>> he simply does not respect the freedom of women or the intelligence of women to know what's in their own best interest and make decisions accordingly. but we trust women. we trust women supporters on the campaign trail, entrepreneur mark cuban, was not making harris's job any easier yesterday, catching heat for his own comments about the women around donald trump turns out donald trump is not even asking nikki haley for her help to try to reach her voters. what do you make of that? and do you think having people like liz cheney, adam kinzinger and other republicans with kamala harris is going to put her over the edge with these? nikki haley supporters? >> yeah. i mean yes, it will put her over the edge with nikki haley supporters. donald trump, you never see him around. strong, intelligent women ever. >> it's just that simple.

they're intimidating to him. he doesn't. he doesn't like to to be challenged by them so here is how the new york post answered supporters and people who are around donald trump who wants to take this? >> megan, why don't why don't i start with you a strong intelligent woman there you go. >> where we are happy to have at the table. >> i mean, look, the language that trump uses here, this whether they like it or not, i mean, it definitely hits a certain way when anyone is talking about you like that. that said, you know cuban was not terribly complimentary of the women that are in trump's orbit, and there are women in his orbit. >> totally. and i just think that some of these people on the periphery should probably stay out of it and let the former president and the vice president make their final arguments here and let them go at each other, because they're both saying enough for us all to talk about. but i do think but i do think, i think that what he was probably trying to say is at the rally at madison square garden, there was like 5 or 6 speakers to these. you

know, 20 some men that spoke. and i think that was the point he was trying to make. i don't know that for sure, but it just it seems like that's the point. it also seems like trump can never get ahead of himself with women, and he continues to insult strong women. so it would just i think, drawing conclusion with like, what are all these women around you saying to you, why aren't you staying on message? >> i think mark cuban has never met siouxsie wiles who is donald trump's campaign manager. who's who did tweet about this? one of the strongest women in politics that i've ever worked with and cuban can be an idiot frankly, and he doesn't know what he's in a field. he doesn't know what he's talking about. i also think, though, that the gender gap, we're treating it a little bit too much with crayon in this race. the fact is that donald trump may well carry married women he will definitely carry women with kids in the home. what we have is a marriage gap and a parent gap more than we have a gender gap. and you see it on the men's side to men with kids in the home are going to vote for donald trump much more than single men are. it's a lot more complicated than we make it a lot of times. yeah. >> so we do one woman who, of

course has been the focus of donald trump is liz cheney. we talked about her at the top of the show. we now have her response was just posted to the platform formerly known as twitter. there it is. she says this quote, this is how dictators destroy free nations. they threaten those who speak against them with death. we cannot entrust our country and our freedom to a petty vindictive, cruel, unstable man who wants to be a tyrant. and she hashtags it women will not be silenced. >> jonah it's a good statement. and i've been sitting here mulling brad's defense of the statement, and i think he's got a better point than i. granted, at the beginning, i still think what he said was outrageous and grotesque. but, um that's part of the problem, right? is donald trump speaks in ways sort of like mark cuban that does not allow for nuance shades of gray, exceptions to the rule. i have lots of criticisms of these women not all of them, though. right. but so when mark cuban says all of the women are out period. there are no smart intelligent women

around. strong women around trump. that's just not true. donald trump does have a lot of not great people, men and women around to talk about this kind of stuff. trump likes to sound so macho and so tough that it freaks people out. and so like the clip about him saying i'm going to protect women no matter what. if you actually listen to the broader part of it, he's got a perfectly fine point, which is that the commander in chief is supposed to protect americans regardless of who they are, regardless of their gender. but often when these things about sort of men are from mars, women are from venus kind of things it's not what you say, it's how you say it. and the way trump talks. i don't blame women for it or not yeah, i do not blame women in the slightest or men for being getting a hard case of it from it. >> yeah all right. look, we are we are running out of time here on a friday, so we thought this would be a good point to address what everyone at home

seems to be talking about. it's certainly what i hear from people when i am asked about the election, which is which is frequently, it's on everyone's minds watch. >> what do you mean? >> why am i anxious? of course i'm anxious. there's an election in six days. >> it's one week to the election and i am so stressed out. >> i'm too anxious. maybe ask me after election day and you just kind of wish you could just hide under a rock because you just wish the election would hurry up and come. >> and i wasn't able to pinpoint exactly what the source of that anxiety was. i wasn't sure exactly why. it's the election it's the election if you are anxious about the election, rest assured you are not the only one. >> in fact, according to a recent poll 7 in 10 americans report feeling anxious or frustrated about the 2024 presidential campaign with less than one week to go before the big day, it living in such a divided country with so much at stake

in a new chasing life podcast episode out today cnn chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta helping us learn how to navigate our polarized world by having difficult but oftentimes necessary conversations and doctor sanjay gupta joins us to see you. this is such a dominant thing right now. what should people be doing between now and tuesday to try to sit with all this >> first of all, those clips make you kind of anxious just watching those, right? i mean, i think everyone is certainly feeling this. >> let me let me start with the good news, which is that our bodies and our brains are incredibly biodynamic. so as stressed or as anxious as you may feel you can quickly revert as well. and the key is to develop, developing some strategies. one thing you know, it's interesting casey, i think that there's there's some evidence. if you talk to evolutionary biologists and stuff, that in some ways humans are sort of hardwired to be

suspicious of one another. it's kind of how we survived in our in our earliest days that's what the argument often is. and there's this guy, peter coleman. he's a he's a psychologist and he runs this thing at the at columbia university known as the difficult conversations lab, which i just found. so fascinating that a lab like that, even exists. but i had a chance, as you mentioned, to talk to peter for the chasing life podcast. just i want you to listen to this, and i want to explain it afterward you know, there's some neuroscience research that just looks at, you know, when you see a tweet from somebody on the other side that says something you think is inane and you experience a sense of outrage and a kind of taste for retaliation, that it triggers parts in the brain that, you know, are triggered by narcotics. >> so these are, you know addictive substances so the argument that he's essentially making is that there's a lot of outrage out there. >> there's a lot of polarization. and that in some ways we're sort of addicted to it. and he's talking about a part of the brain where he was

just talking about this known as the amygdala. it sits there. it's sort of the seat of emotions when it gets fired up. sometimes people want that to happen over and over again, so they they seek out outrage so there's a clue immediately in terms of how to sort of deal with it. but let me just again make a little bit more of an optimistic point that most of our human existence, at least early days, we needed to to cooperate to survive. that's what's really part of our dna. it wasn't until we started to claim land and claim things and things like that that we actually started to develop more polarization so overall, the odds are on our side. casey, in terms of our evolutionary biology well, i am happy to hear that sanjay, briefly you list ways to reduce stress, exercise, control your environment, practice positives, get good sleep. >> we had molly ball from the journal wall street journal on earlier. she wrote a piece about this and she said that people are turning to things like cocktails and edibles at this stage. would you u recommed that you know, i mean i think

you need to find a break from the stress i think that that is that is really the key. >> everyone says, i want to obviate stress from my life and obviate anxiety. you can't really obviate stress from your life. you need a certain amount of stress in your life to get out of bed to to study, for an exam, to, to whatever. go vote. the key is to find the breaks from it. that that that is i think that's sort of a shift in how you think people are like, i'm just done with it. no, you can't be done with it but finding the breaks. so if you had that list again up there exercise and movement is probably the the best thing that you can do overall just to get endorphins going in your body. just taking that first step really makes a big difference. controlling the environment. casey i'll leave you with this getting off social media for a while. >> that really does cut off the the socials i will take that advice doctor sanjay gupta very much appreciate your calm approach to this. thank you for being here on this friday. i don't know who's anxious about the election