donald trump still wants to get rid of the affordable care act. which would throw millions of americans off their health insurance and take us back to the time when insurance companies could deny people with presenting conditions. to member what that was? we are not going back. we are not going back. we are not going back. and we are not going back, because ours is a fight for the future.

it is a fight for freedom . like the fundamental freedom of a woman to make decisions about her own body , and not have her government tell her what to do. we all remember how we got here. donald trump can select -- members of the united states supreme court, with the intention they would undo the protection of roe v. wade. they did as he intended. now in america, one in three women lived in a state with a trump and -- abortion ban. including north carolina. every state in the south, except virginia. many with no exceptions, even for and incest, which is immoral. understand, donald trump is not done. he would ban

on abortion nationwide . he would restrict access to birth control. he would put ivf treatment at risk. get this, force states to monitor women's pregnancies. just google project 2025. which i still cannot believe they put in writing. i think everyone here knows , one does not have to abandon their faith, or deeply held beliefs to agree . the government shouldn't be telling her what to do. not the government, and not donald trump. when congress passes a bill to restore reproductive freedom , nationwide, as president of the united states, i will proudly sign it into

law. proudly. proudly. north carolina, i am here to ask for your vote. i am here to ask for your vote. here is my pledge to you. as president, i pledge to seek common ground , and common sense solutions to the challenges you face. >> you are listening to vice president kamala harris, at a rally in north carolina, she's there in charlotte. we are three days out from election day in america. i am jessica dean in new york. we've been listening to vice president harris. we are joined by jamaal simmons . former communications director for vice president harris. and scott jennings,

senior political commentator and former senior adviser. great to have you both here. the end is near i believe we just lost jamaal. scott, i'm going to start first with you. we see the vice president in north carolina. i know president trump also going to north carolina. they are both spending a lot of time there , in a state that has been heartbreak hill for democrat since obama. >> one of the three most important states. there are some people who look at the campaign, like it's a three state election. pennsylvania, georgia, north carolina. before trump to win all three he would be the next president. whoever wins pennsylvania is highly likely to be the next president. donald trump did win it twice. a lot of attention being paid there. a lot of people voting there. a high

turnout. i expect, over the last few hours of the campaign, we are going to see quite a bit about a peer for the republicans part they are excited about what they have seen in the early voting program one to always remind, which of the witches cauldron. you can look in there and smell the vapors and see whatever you want to see. republicans are embracing early voting in a way they haven't in the past. >> that's fair. witches cauldron indeed. jamaal, good to have you back with us. we were talking about the state of north carolina and an olive jean the fact that harris and trump are making sure to touch that stick, be in that state in these very important last few days. you can talk about -- i would like to hear your thoughts on her and north carolina, as well, and more broadly, too, this turnout operation. the harris campaign feel so confident in. what do you make of that, and how effective do you think it's actually going to be? >> i think more care -- north carolina is incredibly important. if kamala harris wins north carolina, she's

well on her way to being the next president of the united states. if she can win north carolina and georgia, north carolina and orders owner, which makes pennsylvania less important. she's got to compete in all the states. what they been trying to do is keep as many as possible. still traveling to see the battle. keeping these states in. democrats are saying positive things in the early votes. one of the things that's happening is republicans are cannibalizing election day. a lot of republicans , who normally vote on election day, or voting early because the republicans are not demonizing that. they're going after nontraditional voters. that's a really hard thing to do. talk about ground game. it's a really hard thing to do . democrats have had a lot of practice doing it. always going after these voters , trying to get them out. cost a lot of money and time. i think what you are seeing in the states is

an incredible ground game. paid volunteers, or -- sorry, paid campuses or volunteers, like the one i saw this morning in the town i live in in new jersey. a bunch of people, hundreds maybe, who are getting on buses to go to pennsylvania and go canvas. i think we are seeing that a lot out of these -- in the states from democrats. >> scott i wanted to ask your thoughts on ground game as well. the trump campaign has outsourced that . there've been reports. the wired reporting about elon musk's operation in pennsylvania. it's not as professionalized. there was a lot of allegations and that, as well. how concerned are you, or are you concerned, about the organization, the ground game in these key battleground states from the trump operation? >> number one, i don't think republicans are fully dependent on the packet. i think they've

done some positive things. within a ground game operation, you do run into trouble. as jamal said, it's an incredible hard thing to do. organize all these paid canvassers. and never run seamless for any party in any election. i think the republicans and trump have a good general sense of who they are trying to turnout . they are not focused on volume of context as they are on quality context of the people they need to turnout. we've heard the term low propensity voter, no propensity voter, it's obvious trump campaign has a target list. a lot of young men they are trying to get engage. people who don't interact with our political news a lot. not engaged in political or civic affairs and information about it on a day-to-day basis. look at the polling, they do like him. trump is the person they would be attracted to. get an amount . this is the endgame for trump. the more of those people you put in the electric, you change the composition of the

electorate, that's how you get there. some of the swing states. it might be how you get there in virginia, new hampshire, new mexico . some of the return states republicans are looking at now. >> those are considered to be safely democratic. ring up virginia. if you will hang with us for one second, we have steve at the trump rally in virginia. we can check in with him. steve, you are in virginia. we were just saying, it's been a reliably democratic state when it comes to residential elections. it has a republican governor. why is trump in virginia in these closing days not considered to be -- battleground states. >> that's right, jessica. glenn just spoke on the stage. he made the cage for why republicans should be trying here. if he hadn't tried, and he thought it was a foregone conclusion that they can win statewide in virginia he wouldn't be the governor right

now. republicans remain bullish that the state is closer than the narrative and polling suggests. going back to the summer, donald trump's campaign put volunteers in the state. they thought this was a state that was going to be competitive. joe biden left the race. vice president harris stepped in. focus on virginia shifted to those battleground states we have been mostly focused on , including north carolina, where donald trump was earlier today. i want to point you to something he said. he continues in these closing days to focus on his standing with women voters. a major concern for his team going into this final stretch. take a listen to the argument he's making for women voters of north carolina today. >> i will protect our women. i'm going to protect our women. i got into so much

trouble, you saw that. i said we will protect. i keep hearing -- i think the women love me. i do. you know what? if they don't have me, they have millions of people pouring through, coming up through the suburbs. the suburban women. the suburbs are under attack right now. when you are home in your house alone, and you have this monster that got out of prison , you know, six charges of murdering six different people, i think you would rather have trump. >> the latest polling suggest trump is in double digit deficit with women voters. i talked to one operative who said, quote, we've seen a women problem for all republicans all up and down the ballot. it starts at the top , jessica. >> all right, steve contorno in virginia for us. i want to bring jamal simmons and scott jennings back with us now. thanks for staying with us.

let's talk about that clip that steve just played. scott, he's talking about, he said, i'm going to protect the women whether they like it or not. he said i got in trouble for that comment. he started talking about how he believes women are in danger in the suburbs. is it not of victimization that women need to -- somebody to rescue them? he's trying to connect with these female voters, but that sounded, to me, i need to rescue you, you are victim, you are damsel in distress. >> i don't take it that way. there have been well-known incidents, public safety incidents, some involving illegal immigrants, were women have been victims of violent crimes. one of donald trump messages in this campaign, effectively an open border letting people into the country who are criminals and intent to commit violent crimes against american citizens. many are women, not all of them are. part of his campaign. any political candidate will look

at a poll and say, what demographics am i doing poorly with? if you are donald trump you say you have the gender gap. i want to talk to women about the issues they care about. i think public safety is one. inflation, economic anxiety. the other side of this algebra is , for the trouble trump is having with women, harris is having the same trouble with men. we are going to see on election night, men going one way,-, and possibly women going another. we will see who turns out more. that's a part of the algebra of who's going to win the election. >> for sure. jamal, i want to get your thoughts on all of that. what you think about how he's trying to reach out to women with the statements? >> the more i hear donald trump talk about protect people from criminals, the more i think about protecting the white house from a man who is actually a criminal. donald trump is a convicted felon. not only donald trump, but the guys he hang out with. steve bannon,

former white house adviser performer economic adviser got out of jail a couple months ago. rudy giuliani is in trouble right now. had to give up his apartment for offenses. donald trump surrounds himself with criminals. we talk about those. we can also talk about the criminalization of women's healthcare. you have so many women who are having a hard time getting reproductive care, going to get abortions, deal with miscarriages. doctors are afraid that they are going to be the ones on the wrong end of the criminal justice system if they help a woman. i think so many women in this country, we hear about it on the democratic side -- obviously the vice president adds about it. so many women on the democratic side are worried about the fact that they can't get the healthcare they need because the republicans that donald trump has helped get in office, the republican judges, have taken away their rights to

control their own bodies. i think that criminalization is the one that's giving more women in this country than the one donald trump is talking about. >> when we are thinking about the gender gap we are talking about, i think about nikki haley, who had support in that republican primary. she said she is standing by the phone , ready and willing to help trump . yet, he has not reached out to her. what you think about that whole situation? she be helpful? >> sure, i think any republican with a platform is helpful at the end of the campaign to speak out on the half of the former president. she did speak at the rnc. she reiterated her support for donald trump. i sometimes hear democrats almost wish casting that they have heard. no, trump has her. she's clearly for him now. they campaigned together in the last week , but her voice at the republican national convention was a full throated endorsement of donald trump. although , i think it's obvious they don't see eye to eye on everything, i think it's evident it's possible

inside the republican party for all kinds of people who don't see eye to eye with trump on every issue to come together at the end. what i like to see her out there? absolutely. i think it's fatal if she's not like snow. >> in the meantime, the harris campaign sees those haley voters from the primary as prime targets that they can pick up. >> oh, absolutely. they think they are. we started to see towards the end of this race the primaries, some of these -- even when nikki haley got out of the race, some of the women who were out there voting for her, even when she got out of the race, says to me maybe they are not just nikki haley voters, maybe they are anti-donald trump voters. the harris campaign is going after winning some of those voters and getting some of them on board. here's what's so great about the campaign strategy. i talked to people doing work on the ground, they are not acting on many of those voters. they are betting democrats, unregistered voters, unaffiliated voters , getting

them on board, and voting for kamala harris. if you get some of those republican women, they are almost, like, icing on the cake. they are going after them hard, for sure. i want them. the democratic victory we see coming is one that is built at its base with democratic voters who are showing up in a big white. >> all right, guys, stay with us. were going to get a quick trick. his legacy on the line, president biden is making a campaign appearance in the crucial battles -- battleground state of pennsylvania. perhaps it could be one of his last campaign events as president. we are back in a moment.

president biden hitting the campaign trail for kamala harris. turning up in his beloved scranton, childhood hometown. what is likely to be his final battleground visit for the campaign before election. joining us with more. this had to be a bittersweet moment for president biden, going home to scranton, where he closed out his own election in 2020. he hasn't been a regular since he stepped out on the ticket in july. what are you learning about this? >> just three days out from the election, president biden spent the day in his hometown of scranton, pennsylvania. far different circumstances than what he imagined a few months ago. the president campaign appearances have really been quite limited. that's in part due to his lingering unpopularity, and concern among sums -- some democrats to go off message. we've seen biden, over the past week, here in

pennsylvania, three times. this is one of the only official campaign events he's doing on behalf of harris. one area where his advisers and allies still believe the president holds sway is not just in pennsylvania, also specifically with older voters and white working-class voters. that's the audience he was speaking to today as he rallied voters at a carpenters union hall. he really tried to stress union bona fides and sought to make a personal appeal to some of those working-class voters who might be skeptical of a harris administration. here's the moment. >> this is the most important like -- election any of us have voted in. i promise you, you may have difficulty, you may have disagreed with some of the things in the harris walz administration. i would pick her if she didn't have the same view i do about

hard-working people. i'm serious. look, folks, we need, as president. kamala so much is wrapped up as -- in this presidential campaign. to use the remarks to try to one trump will undo the initiatives he saw through in his four years in office, talks about the threat trump could post to the affordable care act. also he would raise tax on the wealthy, which would benefit middle-class americans. tried to lay out he and harris have worked towards progress in this country. harris would build on that progress going forward. a lot riding on this election for president biden's own a legacy trying to make his mark where he can, even as his campaign appearances have been limited. in the closing days he's made that push in pennsylvania. >> arlette, it seems we are -- this could be his last stop during this campaign cycle.

>> so far, the white house and harris campaign have not detailed any further events for president biden. this scranton is a place of personal significance to him. where he spent part of his childhood. he's also visited scranton at key points in his own political career. i remember being back there with him in 2018, campaigning in the midterms in those elections, thinking about running. he ended his campaign straight -- spread in 2018, back in 2020 on election day. he flew to scranton, visited his childhood home. a lot of personal significance for president biden. it appears, as of now, this likely is the last place he will be appearing on the campaign trail unless sometime -- some other event pops up in the coming days. >> so much meaning for him. that would be appropriate. arlette saenz, thank you for the reporting period from the first votes to critical count,

no one covers election night in america like cnn. starting tuesday 4:00 eastern only on cnn. still ahead, when will we know the results in the crucial battle ground state of michigan, and what the state is doing to fight dangerous disinformation. secretary of state is joining us live next. at any moment, we are expecting to hear from former president donald trump in virginia. we are keeping an eye on that, as well. stay with us.

as of this morning, more than 800,000 early ballots have been cast across the state of michigan. according to the secretary of state's office. also announced criminal charges have been filed against a noncitizen student for registering to vote and casting an early voting ballot. the secretary calling it, cool, extremely isolated and rare event. joining us is the michigan secretary of state. secretary, thanks for being with us on what i know is a busy day for you. >> yeah, in fact, the last few hours we crossed the 1 million mark. 1 million have voted early in person in the cycle. close to 3 million , total, if you counted those who voted through mail. extraordinary numbers. a lot of people participating, a lot of people enthusiastic about voting this

year. >> so important everybody has the opportunity to vote. i do want to ask you, about the environment in which this election is taking place, this year. we were talking in the lead into come to you about the incident in ann arbor. there was concern despite quick action from law enforcement, incidents like that, can spur conspiracy theories . people really latch onto. misinformation , it distorts the truth. i know you and your team have been fighting against that disinformation. what are you doing to combat those conspiracy theories and make sure people have the truth? >> a number of things. we set up a website. addresses every single conspiracy theory out there with fax. even when there are new ones , multilevel granular details. you can read them there so people have access to that information. secondly, we've established a

-- voter confidence, faith leaders, community leaders, educational leaders. we've equipped with the same factual information who can share it with audiences that trust them, including local election officials and others. that's been helpful getting information out and getting people be on the noise on social media and to the truth in their homes. finally we encourage everyone it , in this moment, to recognize in the midst of this high intense election cycle, in this moment, we all have to be critical consumers of information. we have to seek out multiple sources, trusted sources of information and commit to looking at the facts of any specific scenario, and know there are forces out there who are trying to divide us, confuse us in this moment. we can resist them by not being fooled and stay focused as -- on the facts. >> how difficult, despite that robust operation you outlined, when you have the former president, and people like elon musk, who owns a social media platform, amplifying some of

these mistruths they are spreading, lies, whatever the case might be particular to what they are talking about. how much more complicated is that for you? this is one of the candidates. people that people look to. >> indeed. people who have significant platforms. a great deal of influence. hard in many ways to rival or match, even with all the truth on our side. number one, i think we have to recognize someone like elon musk, or others, would use their platforms to further misinformation, to cause chaos and confusion and division. really do the work of our foreign adversaries who would love to see nothing more than our country descend into confusion and division . to that work for them and spread the false information is really disappointing. i think it's incumbent upon all of us, mark -- my colleagues in particular, stand up, even though we know speaking truth to people who

have far more power as individuals, but we have -- to be bold and by the challenges and speak the truth anyway and lean into the fear that we may be feeling when we do that. instead, just be emboldened by the facts ensure that. that's my job, that's our responsibility. we hope voters can join us breaking through nick --.noise, and see the truth about the reports, there power . someone lying right now wants to distract us from. >> to harris campaign has said it expects trump to declare victory on tuesday, whether the votes have been counted fully or not. that is what they are anticipating. were going to see exactly how it plays out. does your office, though, have a plan to responding to a scenario like that? >> yeah. first we all have to remember candidates don't declare who wins elections, voters two. the unofficial count from all of the states is what will ultimately determine the will of the people, and who

a particular network calls to win or not an election. we have to stay focus on that, even if candidates try to drum that out with noise. election officials like myself all across the country will be working as transparently as we can to get the actual information in real-time to citizens when we are all actively wanting to see who, indeed, the voters have selected for multiple positions, including the presidency in this election. oppress conferencing -- announcing where we are. how much longer we think it will take. if we don't have the numbers then for the unofficial results, my colleagues will be doing the same all around the country. we will be working officially to get those unofficial results. we will prioritize security and accuracy, which may take time in some states. >> quickly, before i let you go. i want to address two things you just said. one, about the security of these election officials, and these public servants who are counting these ballots, trying to get through the work of the people, making sure it's a

safe and secure election. what if you had to do to ensure their safety? >> we've passed a law to make it a crime to threaten a election official in the line of work. we partner with law enforcement and first responders, doing scenario planning across the state and preparing for this moment. we hope everyone respects this process and one disrupts the . we know misinformation can lead to the potential for violence. we saw that in 2020. we are going to have law enforcement on hand, and others to protect people who protect democracy and work to quickly de-escalate or mitigate any potential threats as they might occur. again, seek accountability and justice for those who have disrupt the process or break the law in order to disrupt our elections. >> michigan secretary of state, jocelyn benson, thank you for your time. good luck with everything. we appreciated. >> thanks for having me. >> still ahead, what role will robert f kennedy junior and

elon musk play in a second trump presidency. new reporting on how they may -- president trump on stage in virginia. we are monitoring this life. here in the cnn newsroom.

you are looking at former president donald trump live in salem, virginia. let's take a listen. >> it's going to go quickly.

they've done a lot of damage. it will go quickly. america will be bigger, better, bolder, richer, safer, and stronger than ever before. this election is a choice if you will have more -- four more years of competence and chatter, or if we will begin the four greatest years of the history of our country. i am asking you to be excited about the future again, be excited. it's hard to be excited. you watch what they have done to this country is hard. just be excited. it's coming back, and it's going to come back. i am asking you, remember this , dream big again. dream big. we are going to do incredible things. this

will be america's new golden age. it's going to be a golden age of america. we are going to get the stupid people out of here as quickly as possible. what they have done. every problem facing us can be solved. now the fate of our nation is in your hands. it really is. it's in your hands. on tuesday you have to stand up. you have to tell kamala -- you can't call her harris. you know why? you say harris, who is harris? the whole thing doesn't work. we just call her kamala. you are going to tell her that you've had a, you've had it, you are the worst vice president in history. you are terrible at what you are doing. you've destroyed our country. kamala, you are fired, get out

of here. get out of here. i am here today , in this incredible commonwealth, for one very simple reason, because i believe we can win virginia. and working with your governor, we will get ms13 out of your communities. you are loaded up with them. loaded up. they don't want to touch them. we are going to touch them. we are going to have i.c.e. all over the places. if you don't have to have people, you are not getting ms13 out anytime soon. no, i.c.e. is, like, ms13 is their cup of tea. we will cut your taxes, create millions of jobs, fixer schools, stop the

indoctrination of your children, and we will not let them try to change your kids gender. no, you will not be doing that. we won't be changing your children's gender with their transgender craziness. and we will protect parents ' writes, and we will protect school choice. you will have school choice here. school choice. we will bring back an education system based on merit. don't forget our supreme court gave us in a great ruling, a decision we are allowed to use merit again. merit. if someone works hard -- if somebody works hard, they do well, they work so hard and do so well, we actually have a merit-based country again. can you believe it. isn't that nice? and we will, of course,

keep men out of women's sports. last year, the radical left gender arrived here in salem when a man was allowed to transfer onto the college swim team. i just met them backstage, the great swimmers. i did not notice a male on that particular day. i did not notice a male on that team. perhaps i don't understand what's happening. i did not see any males on the team, believe me. the brave members of the swim team stood up to the transgender fanatics. something new in our country. those strong -- and i would say

beautiful -- i'm not allowed to use that term anymore with women. if you say beautiful, it means the end of your career in politics. you are not allowed to say a woman is beautiful. i will not tell you how beautiful they are, but they are beautiful. those strong, beautiful, intelligent women, they will won. today we are joined by seven of the great members -- really championship, incredible swimmers of the roanoke college swim team that got a little publicity. they got more pus -- publicity than i have. what is going on here? including team captain, lily mullins, a really -- real champion. come on up, come on up, ladies.

lily, everybody. >> sorry. thank you , so much, president trump. as female athletes we know men have an inherit advantage over women in sports. due to current policies men are competing against women of all ages in all sports. >> you are looking at a rally with former president, donald trump, and members of the women's swimming team. salem , virginia. trump is campaigning with three days left to go. there at the rally, he is standing by. steve, in that clip, the life portion we were listening to, we heard him continue to disparage vice president harris. it's worth

noting he's in virginia, which has been a blue state in presidential politics for the last several cycles. what can you tell us about why he's there in this very important closing days? >> yeah, three days left. here he is well outside of the battleground map here in virginia. he told this crowd, i believe we can win virginia. i have felt it for a long time. that is true. we know his team believe, going back to the summer, they had a chance to flip regina. they like what they saw on the ground. they opened the office in virginia, hoping they could lay the groundwork to flip the states. however, that was back when joe bryden was the democratic nominee. now it's obviously vice president harris. the ground really shifted here after that happened. this trump campaign put less emphasis on trying to expand their map. originally were going to be in places like new hampshire and

new mexico, minnesota. we haven't seen how all from them until this week. he did travel to new mexico. he's in virginia now. trying to project strength going into this final week. the idea that if you are expanding your map it must mean you see some momentum in these final days here. i will say, i have traveled extensively with trump's campaign. we've ended up in parts of the country were trump has spent a lot of time , has made multiple visits to, and the crowds were starting to thin. i was with him in worn this week, warren, michigan. the exact same room a month ago. a month ago it was full. yesterday it was about half empty. this room is full. there's a lot of energy here. perhaps getting outside of the battleground map gives him an opportunity to engage new audience and get some enthusiasm back. you can see him on stage now. he is currently talking about transgender politics, which is

something his campaign has emphasized in the closing stretch of this race . they've spent tens of millions of dollars on advertising on this issue. republican strategist believe it can be a risk. it hasn't worked for them in previous election cycles. his campaign believes it's going to drive voters and base in this writer. >> certainly where they have put so much of their advertising dollars , the campaign and those allied with it. steve contorno in virginia. thank you so much. were going to continue to keep an eye on the rally and more news as a warrant. former president donald trump is touting a radical and expansive reformation plan, which includes the likes of robert f. kennedy junior. elon musk able to as the tech billionaire says, quote, start from scratch with the federal workforce. cnn politic writer, zachary wolf , joining us from washington. they get so much for being with

us. i want to listen first to what john said about a potential rfk junior role and how vice president harris responded to that. >> robert f kennedy junior do what he wants with healthcare. >> he's going to have a big -- we just left. in fact, i think he might be here. behind me. >> is right here. >> his views on vaccine, mr. president? >> we will be talking about a lot of things. he will have a big role in healthcare. very big role. he knows it better than anybody. he's got some views i happen to agree with, very strongly, and i have for a long time. >> he's indicated the person in charge of healthcare for the american people, is someone who has routinely promoted crazy conspiracy theories. who once expressed support for national abortion ban . who is the exact last person in america who should be setting healthcare policy for america's families and children.

>> all right, zach, walk us through what kennedy and musk are saying they want to do, and what could possibly unfold here? >> cnn obtained video last week of kennedy telling supporters he thought he would be in charge of a good portion of the federal healthcare apparatus. things like health and human services administration. hhs. fda. cdc. this broad role. it's not exactly clear what that would be . elon musk might not be part of the specific federal government, but he would create this , sort of, sub department. department of government efficiency, which shares a name with a cryptocurrency he likes. cross pollination there from him. he thinks could find a way to scrape $2 trillion out of the federal budget. if that sounds like a lot of money, it's

about a third of what the government spends in any given year. we are talking about a radical amount of money that he thinks he can pull out. how he would pull the money out, it's not at all clear. if congress would let him, that's also not clear. it is a stunning amount of money. >> yeah, it certainly is. we saw that clip with the former president and rfk jr., lavishing praise upon him. i am curious if the campaign has attempted to distance itself from the messaging from kennedy and musk in those roles that they would potentially have. >> saw trump given the opportunity to talk about vaccines. didn't. kennedy hasn't been talking about vaccines. that's the thing he's most associated with. it was interesting, last week, when the co-chair of trump's transition team was talking to cnn's caitlin collins, he expressed some interest in what kennedy said about vaccines. take a listen to this. >> if you give me the data, all

i want is the data, and i will take on the data and show it's not safe. if you pull the product liability, the companies would yank these vaccines right off of the mark. >> what data is he talking about? we don't know. i called the cdc. they don't know. i tried to talk to kennedy's representatives. they want clear on what data it is. the goal , opening it up, opening vaccines to the lawsuits, to them off the market, that's an alarming thing. so many people get vaccines. nearly every american child. they have been so much to save so many lives. it's not clear , at all. clearly the trump campaign is open to this kind of talk. >> thank you so much for that. we are going to have much more straight ahead from both candidates on the trail in this final weekend of campaigning. we are back in a moment.