tv Election Night in America CNN November 6, 2024 9:00pm-1:00am PST
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worst fears of many democrats becoming a reality. i'm anderson cooper. >> i'm dick tapper. tonight we're breaking down the of indications of mr. trump's historic and sweeping presidential victory, the monumental shift in american politics and what it might mean for this country the next four years. the former and now future president getting a call today from vice president kamala harris officially conceding the election setting the stage for a peaceful transition of power. mr. trump will assume the presidency a second time with republicans in control of the u.s. senate aiding his agenda, still undecided whether the gop will keep control in the majority of the house of representatives or whether democrats will win it back and gain a check on the trump administration's power. we could get an update on that this evening. anchors kaitlin collins and abby phillip are covering every angle of the trump victory and the harris defeat and what might happen
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next, but first to florida. what is happening inside trump world nearly 24 hours after his historic victory? >> reporter: things have been moving quick and very fast behind the scenes as donald trump has been on the phone all day long. people say his phone has been essentially glued to his ear as he's been having conversations not just with tech leaders, republican allies, also world leaders making their phone calls knowing they are bracing for a trump return to the oval office and while he's on the phone, his aides have been working on that transition process and what a return to the white house will look like. i'm told what trump is seeking to do in part of this is reward those who have been loyal to him the last two years. his axis of influence have changed greatly since he left washington and he will seek to reward the people like elon musk, robert f. kennedy jr., and we have been
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talking to our sources all day and what this process has looked like behind the scenes. it's almost been frantic to a degree as people are jockeying to positions or seeking to gain influence and still processing this race was decided as soon as it was. >> reporter: when it comes to people jockeying for positions, people who made pitches for themselves or others, are being incredibly careful. they really want to tiptoe around donald trump to figure out ways to say they want to serve him without looking like they want something. donald trump does not react well when people come to him saying they just want something. there are a lot of people in line to be rewarded by the former president because of their loyalty when others were not there and because they were by him on the campaign trail, elon musk, rfk jr. rfk jr., there was a lot of negotiating before he endorsed donald trump and dropped out of the race. what he was promised seems to vary depending who you
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talk to. he has said he has been promised some kind of cabinet position or overseeing all these health organizations. we have heard from your interview that that's likely not possible, but there are a lot of people seeking rewards and pitching themselves now to donald trump and suzie wiles and those within the inner circle. >> reporter: these are a lot of outstanding questions they are trying to answer here in palm beach florida. >> now let's go to abby phillip anchoring in washington, d.c. you covered vice president harris' concession speech earlier today. she urged her supporters to accept the results and commit to a peaceful transfer of power. let's run a little of that. >> a fundamental principle of american democracy is that when we lose an election, we accept the results. that principle, as much as any other,
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distinguishes democracy from monarchy or tyranny and anyone who seeks the public trust must honor it. at the same time, in our nation we owe loyalty not to a president or a party, but to the constitution of the united states. and loyalty to our conscience and to our god. >> abby, tell us more about the vice president's message and what comes next. >> reporter: yeah, jake. this was a year of incredibly consequential speeches for vice president harris and this speech she delivered today is certainly one of them. this was her moment to speak to the thousands at howard university, her alma mater, where they gathered last night hoping for the best and that night ended not the way she wanted or any of them wanted and she was
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speaking to millions of americans who now, frankly, feel lost. this was a speech that was about fundamentally the path forward and the key part of what she said was that she concedes the race, but she does not concede the ideals of her campaign effectively. now the question becomes what does the democratic party do? what role does kamala harris have in it. as we have covered the last 24, 36 hours for harris and her aides, it has been incredible whiplash. she had a really tough job tonight, which was to capture the anger, the fear, the confusion and move people into a forward looking posture as they face what she's been telling them is going to be an
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existential threat to the country. >> concession speeches are not ones the candidates like to give and they don't always come, but she did appear at howard university to her supporters, the emotion we could see, tears in the eyes of supporters. >> reporter: especially young people, so many of these people young women for whom this is probably their first election, it was a black woman, deep heartbreak there that she knew she was speaking to. >> reporter: there absolutely was. there was a bit of a difference in reaction between the younger women and people who had seen this before in 2016. there were so many sort of memories of that. this was a very, very different race. this was an accelerated race. i was struck by she also said i know many people feel we're entering a dark time. i hope that's not the case. she was as optimistic as possible but also pretty real. the reality is she has 75 more days to be serving in the
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white house behind us and she is the vice president. i'm told she's going to be going about her day job and also focus on her future. as of now, she's as much the leader of this democratic party as anyone. i think she exits this race with her head held fairly high as we begin deciphering what happened. it's not all on her. it is on the party. it is on president biden, without question. >> reporter: speaking of president biden, he's going to be entering the conversation tomorrow as he speaks in the rose garden and addresses the american people tomorrow morning at 11:00 a.m. that is going to be also for president biden one of his final moments to really speak to what the country is about to face in the next four years, a change of administration happening in washington once again. >> thanks so much. a little housekeeping, cnn can now project the vice president kamala harris will win the state of maine and three of the state's four electoral votes. maine like nebraska awards its
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electoral votes according to congressional district. donald trump is picking up that one electoral vote by winning maine's 2nd congressional district and brings mr. trump's total electoral votes as of this hour to 292 it. vice president harris' total as of now is 226. there are a few states that remain uncalled as of now. let's talk about the vice president's concession speech. i want to play a little bit more. >> to the young people who are watching, it is okay to feel sad and disappointed, but please know it's going to be okay. on the campaign i would often say when we fight, we win, but here's the thing. here's the thing. sometimes the fight takes a while. that doesn't mean we won't win. >> that's a nice concept what she's saying and comforting words. they are not the same words that we heard from her and her allies as we head into
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election night in which he was called a fascist and might be the end to democracy, might be the very last vote we cast, et cetera. >> this is something who is trying to obviously hold up the people who voted for her, perhaps hold out the possibility that she could try to get on the ballot again. she just turned 60 years old, but also i think that you sort of mentioned this at the top of the show and i believe it bears repeating, that broadly the fact that she even gave this speech shouldn't be noteworthy, but it is. it is noteworthy because we haven't heard a concession speech. we didn't hear it four years ago when donald trump lost the election and i remember being with john mccain when he gave his concession speech back in 2008 and it was one of those genuinely sort of heartfelt speeches and it did help to at
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least we thought really try to heal country. things changed for different reasons, but i think what you're getting at here, jake, is that she's saying the right things, but it's also very clear that the democratic party that she's talking about isn't really clear what it is after last night's election. >> i just want to push back on this idea. i know it's been said a few times that what's her future and what she is the leader of the democratic party. she's not the leader of the democratic party. >> no. >> my experience in doing this for a long time is parties don't like losers. they particularly don't like a loser that is letting donald trump back into the white house. there have been many more beloved losers in either party. i think of somebody like walter mondale who had a lot more credibility in the democratic party than kamala harris ever had. kamala harris, one of the things she said a lot during the campaign is we
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need to turn the page. i don't think the democrats, they can't wait to turn the page on joe biden and kamala harris because, frankly, this is going to be seen now as a failed presidency. >> yeah. >> and the only way to read the vote was the majority of americans did not like the way the biden-harris administration ran this country and they want to see something different from the democrats. >> the 2024 republican party did embrace a loser, just a note, and then he became a winner again. you're talking about turning the page, on monday night david plouffe, senior adviser to the harris campaign he wrote, "it was a privilege to spend the last 100 days with kamala harris and the amazing staff. we dug out of a deep hole but not enough, a
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devastating loss. thanks for being in the arena, all of you." dug out of a deep hole is implicitly a slam on joe biden. >> yeah. i think it's even more than implicitly. >> explicitly. >> they are very clear about that and we don't know. it's an unknown whether or not joe biden would have done much worse, maybe new jersey which was a lot closer than democrats expected, even though the democrats won. maybe that, for example, would have gone for donald trump and not joe biden, but despite what david plouffe is saying today and it's understandable he is trying to maybe clean things up a little bit, we heard yesterday from the democrats in the harris campaign and the republicans in the trump campaign the same thing. our data shows that we're doing well, that we're closing well, that we'll be good and only one of the campaigns was right with their data and that was the trump
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campaign. >> there's no question that there was a deep hole and it was the hole that joe biden with his policies on inflation and the economy and foreign policy and immigration dug for the part. this idea joe biden would have run closer to donald trump than kamala harris, you know -- >> maybe the joe biden of 2020 but not of '12. >> after the debate you did, but the question i think people will ask is if he had stepped out after the midterm, a very successful midterm, and thrown the party open to a full nomination process, first of all, i don't think it would have been kamala harris. it would have been somebody else and could they have beaten donald trump? we'll never know that, but i think that's the on sensible question you could ask. >> if it had been kamala harris, it would have been a much more strong and battle-tested kamala harris who won the primary system, but i
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you're watching cnn special live coverage of donald trump's historic victory. tonight the former and future president is vowing to make the promises he made on the campaign trail. right now there's breaking news involving donald trump's unprecedented criminal convictions. what are you learning? >> trump is going to try to get his upcoming sentencing in new york canceled. historically they have just tried to get things delayed or pushed back, but i'm told they are going to argue to the court that as president-elect trump is entitled to the same protections as a sitting president and should be protected from state actors, including prosecutors. the judge her, juan marchan, has given himself a november 12 deadline to decide if his conviction should be tossed because of the supreme court's immunity ruling this past summer. if it's tossed, there won't be sentencing, but i'm told the trump team will fight to make sure this is not just
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delayed but that this never happens. >> paula reid, thanks very much. christian holmes has our report from west palm beach. what are you hearing about the second term and the second term underway. >> reporter: donald trump has made a series of promises the last two years and some are wondering how exactly he's going to get done. president-elect donald trump already has a lengthy to-do list. >> promises made, promises kept. we're going to keep our promises. >> reporter: promises he made during his campaign starting with immigration. >> we've got to have the largest mass deportation effort in history and we're going to. going forward, the future children of illegal aliens will not receive automatic u.s. citizenship. >> reporter: vowing to immediately go after millions of undocumented immigrants, calling for a ban on sanctuary
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cities, a death penalty for human traffickers and to reinstate his travel ban on people entering the u.s. from predominantly muslim countries. >> i will send congress a bill to ban sanctuary cities in the first day that i become president. i will immediately restore and expand the trump travel ban on entry from terrorist-plagued countries. >> reporter: trump has promised tariffs as well as ending and cutting specific taxes. >> my plan will massively cut taxes for workers and small businesses and we will have no tax on tips, no tax on overtime and no tax on social security benefits for our seniors. >> reporter: trump claimed he could end the conflict in the middle east and the russia
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ukraine war immediately. >> i will prevent world war iii from happening. before i even arrive at the oval office shortly after we win the presidency, i will have the horrible war between russia and ukraine totally settled. >> reporter: while not offering any explanation of how. he's made commitments on changing the education system. >> on day one i will sign an executive order banning schools from promoting critical race theory or transgender. i'm going to close the department of education and move education back to the states. >> reporter: trump has also promised to go after his perceived political enemies. >> for those who have been wronged and betrayed, i am your retribution. i will appoint a real special prosecutor to go after the most corrupt president in the history of the united states of america, joe biden, and the entire biden crime family. >> reporter: including firing special counsel jack smith. >> i would fire him within two
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seconds. >> reporter: trump has also made promises to those prosecuted for their actions on january 6th. >> will you pardon the january 6th rioters who were convicted of federal offenses? >> i am inclined to pardon many of them. i can't say for every single one because a couple of them probably they got out of control. >> reporter: and while unlike some other republicans, trump has stated he doesn't want a national abortion ban -- >> no. i'm not in favor of a national abortion ban, but it doesn't matter because this issue has been taken over by the states. >> reporter: -- his administration could implement new restrictions without passing a federal law. right now what's going on is the transition, the wheels are already in motion. the people who would put these laws or these kind of policies into place are currently meeting with transition officials likely going to meet with former president donald trump or president-elect donald trump and they will be put into the positions of power to actually
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implement the things that donald trump has promised. >> thanks very much. how do you think this transition, what do you think they learned in the first transition they'll implement this transition. >> there's a whole mechanical part of this that takes place in terms of getting people into place, getting fbi files, people starting to get vetted. there's a book called the plum book which has 4,000 scheduled jobs that need to be filled from lower level policy positions up to cabinet secretaries. it is a daunting task. so howard lutnik has been trying to assemble an a-list of people to be submitted to the president and team, these close advisers to vet and say it's like collecting baseball cards, when you're a kid got it, need it, and they'll go through and
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figure out who they want to interview and then they'll vet those folks and the president will finally pick. >> some of it has been done for the project 2025 thing. do you think that's going to be -- the democrats made a lot out of it. i'm not bringing it up to do that. >> no, no. american first policy institute i think if you're going to look at an organization that has much more credibility and standing within this group, the american first policy institute -- >> that was a group that started just a couple years ago. >> the trump administration. a lot of people, credible folks working on things, kind of thoughtful things. if you want to go to a website and see what it might look like, brooke rollins ran it with linda mcmahon. >> linda mcmahon is co-chair. >> with howard lutnik. these are serious people. they'll be credible people in these positions. the notion it could
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be filled with crazy people, exhale, it's going to be okay. the big positions are chief of staff, white house counsel, attorney general. those are problem the most significant jobs. >> are you confident they can find responsible people? >> listen, i think they'll be able to move much quicker. they know what it takes to staff these roles. they've had sort of this administration in waiting at these various outside groups, the conservative policy institute as well. i was a little heartened by some of the folks involved in the transition, robert lighthizer, john ratcliffe. these are serious people who served in positions in government, policy-minded. i think the senior tier is going to be people that at least could credibly get through senate confirmation. i think it's the next tier of people who don't have to go through the same level of vetting that you're going to see some folks go in that will make some people uncomfortable. >> absolutely. >> in west wings, in cabinets people in these second tier roles have a lot of power. i'm
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curious about this, though, this schedule f consecutive order. i saw it when i was there. they were ready to do it at the end of the last trump administration. that would have made basically all civil servants fired at will so trump would have way more power to put in his own loyalists. that's where it becomes incredibly complicated and risky when you talk about pandemic preparedness, disaster management and all these things that require decades of expertise in that field. >> this is the thing steve bannon has been talking about a long time, basically politicizing what are civil service positions and bringing them under tow. they call it the assault on the deep state, but it is an assault on people who are competent and have expertise in different areas of one thing that was mentioned in the piece was ending the war in ukraine in 24 hours. i woke up to "the washington post" that
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said some u.s. adversaries reduced. russian officials appeared giddy. kamala is finished dmitri medvedev wrote on x. let her keep cackling infectiously. >> the enemies of america are happy, that's not a good thing. i also think, you know, basically when you start a new administration, it is like a startup. you got to hire a bunch of people. there's a process. the people have to go before the senate even from a point of view of public embarrassment, those people are usually halfway decent. you start drilling down. i call them the b team. the people that are going to be there every day 6:00 in the morning, midnight, their judgment matters. their discretion matters. what they think, who they know, who they call on matters. there are a layer of people that are frightening, that are lining up to come into the government and a difference
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now is when trump went in the first time, it felt like a fluke and some people were afraid to go. this historic level of victory for trump when he gets the white house, the senate, possibly the house, the electoral college, the popular vote, everybody's going to be willing to go and serve. so he could pick from the best of the best, but the worst of the worst are lining up and that's a concern. >> let's go back to jake. we have some more unfinished business. cnn can project donald trump will be the winner of the state of alaska with its three electoral votes. donald trump wins last as as alaska as you can see on the board there. donald trump's big win last night, of course, smashed the democratic coalition. we'll look at our exit polling data for clues next where some key voting blocks are shifting. plus we'll track the
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welcome back. election night in america continues. right now we continue to track all the latest reaction to donald trump's stunning victory over vice president kamala harris. let's go to david chalian. you're looking at how some traditionally democrat voting groups shifted towards donald trump. >> yeah. some key demographics where we see a real shift towards trump. latino voters jumps off the page of the exit polls, jake. here you see harris won latino voters 52% to 46%. that's a six percentage point advantage. they make up about 12% of the electorate. joe biden four years ago had a 33 point advantage over trump with latino voters. trump increased his support by 14 points. look among young voters. harris wins them 54% to 43%. they are 14% of the electorate. she has an 11-point advantage. this was a much bigger advantage for joe biden four years ago. looking at
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those who earn less than $100,000 a year, trump wins these voters 50% to 46%. they are 60% of the electorate. six out of ten voters earn less than $100,000 a year. biden won these by 13 points four years ago. trump flipped it. he wins them by four. independent voters, 34% of the electorate, a big increase in the share of the electorate that says they're independent. it was only a quarter four years ago. harris wins them 49-46, a three-point margin. biden won them by 13 points. so trump narrows the margin with independents by ten points from four years ago to last night. >> now to john king at the magic wall. >> this is how it end up on the map. this is the presidential race by county. there are 4,100 something counties and townships across the united states of america. you can look
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at it statewide, red and blue states, but if you look at it, one of the conversations democrats will have is maybe we should stop calling this flyover country. they're hard working americans like david just noted, people that make less than $100,000 a year, and these are red states. democrats going to flip them right away? no. but they better learn how to understand and communicate with these people. i want to show david was talking about trump's growth among latino voters. let's bring this in. these are counties across the country with a hispanic population of 30% or more on the map now, some in florida, a little bit in the east, but mostly into the southwest. if they're blue, harris won them. if they're red, trump won them. democrats have been saying for years we're going to make texas competitive and make it blue. look at all these counties where the hispanic population is 30% or more carried by donald trump in the state of texas. people at home are saying oh, texas is republican. don't make such a big deal about that. let's move over to new mexico, a blue
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state but a narrower margin than years past and again, look at trump winning these counties where the hispanic population of 30% or more. come over here, arizona, a battleground state that donald trump is leading. david, even here pima county, a big county, tucson, second largest county in the state below maricopa county. yes, harris wins this county with 41%, but look at the difference. trump gets a little bit of points. then come down to the border, santa cruz county right at the border, trump against biden gets 32% if you round up and then bam, up to 40%. it's the growth among these latino voters in arizona, in nevada that are making those battleground states trend his way at least in this cycle and you see it in other places. it makes the republican coalition bigger, stronger, wider. >> part of what is delivering him this popular vote majority, this big electoral majority, is
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that he's losing places by less. even though he's losing there, he's losing by less all over the country, but in arizona he increased his share of the latino vote, his support by five percentage points from four years ago. that makes a difference. >> it's enormous in a place like that. the flip side back out to the national map and bring in these counties. you're looking with the hispanic population of 30% or more. now i'm going to bring in the other big thing we know trump did yesterday cutting into what is traditionally a democratic base, the african american population. now you're looking at african american counties. you see all these counties. this is where the african american population is 30% or more. you see a lot of red on that map, don't you? let's go into georgia and bring it out. donald trump winning counties where the african american population is 30% or more. it used to be the math worked this way, 30% or more of the black vote is a foundation for the democrats and you just got to
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get to 50 in those counties. donald trump is proving at least in this election his coalition is expanding and the democrats need to go to school, figure out what happened here. >> john king, thanks so much. the republican party picked up the u.s. senate last night. joining us next, a republican senator now vying for majority leader. florida's rick scott is standing by.
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welcome back to election night in america continued. tonight former president donald trump is preparing for his return to washington after nearly four years in political exile. let's dive into the balance of power on capitol hill. republicans will take control of the u.s. senate, but the outcome in the u.s. house of representatives remains uncertain this hour. boris sanchez is looking at where things stand. >> yeah, jake. the house is up for grabs, but things are trending in a specific
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direction. i'll explain in a moment. first let's look at the balance of power in the u.s. house, democrats hold 191 seats with two pickups, republicans 108 with six pickups, 36 seats to be determined. you need 218 for control of the chamber. republicans are only about ten seats away. when it comes to democrats trying to take care of the chamber, let's talk about the magic number they need. right now democrats need eight republican seats. they need to flip eight republican seats to take control of the chamber and currently are leading in four republican districts. it's not really an indicator of the whole picture because republicans are currently leading in two seats where democrats hold that district. so really it's a net gain of two seats for democrats, far below the eight they would need. let's look at some key race alerts to show you where things stand in two very important races, the first in new york's 4th district,
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long island, where joe biden won by double digits. there the town supervisor has a lead of about 6,000 votes against the incumbent congressman, 92% of the voting in that district in new york. the democrat in the lead poised to possibly flip it. the opposite is true in alaska's at-large district. here you have republican currently leading against the incumbent democratic congresswoman, a freshman, the first native alaskan to ever serve in the u.s. congress. she actually won two years ago in large part because alaska has ranked-choice voting and she went up against two republicans who effectively canceled each other out, now only going up against one republican. he's 11,000 votes ahead, 71% of the vote in in alaska. >> with republicans taking the u.s. senate and mitch mcconnell, the current republican leader, stepping down as senate republican leader, there is now a major
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job opening and we are diving into who is hoping to succeed the leader. >> at least 52-48, could be up to 54-46 depending how the nevada and pennsylvania races shake out, republicans currently leading in those democrat seats. let's look at the three candidates vying for one of the most powerful jobs in washington, the senate majority leader. one of them is senator john thune, current number two, republican whip. he's been in the senate since 2005. he did back tim scott, republican senator for president. he had a bit of a fraught relationship with trump for some time. he's facing against senator john cornyn, a two-time share of the senate gop campaign committee, himself a former republican whip, used to be number two in that position. he's been years trying to build a fundraising apparatus pouring millions of dollars into potential votes, his colleagues' campaign accounts over many years. the question is will that ultimately help him get the
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votes? there's a third candidate in this race, senator rick scott. he just won reelection last night to a second term in florida. he's a former senate gop chairman trying to align himself more as the trump candidate in this race. he did back trump before the iowa caucuses, but he's seen as more of a long shot. this is a race that's typically you win by relationship building within the united states senate, cornyn and thune seen as more of the favorites. there's a secret ballot race that takes place a week from today. >> joining us is that long shot, republican senator rick scott of florida. congratulations on your reelection, senator. have you talked with president-elect trump who, i guess, is a constituent of yours about wanting to be leader of the senate? >> absolutely. first off, jake, when you did my debate in the 2014 race, we've doubled our
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votes, about 6 million this time, won by over 1 million votes. this state is clearly red. the hispanic vote which you've just been talking about clearly was the game changer. la floridaa is roja. i've been working to make sure we win the hispanic votes. we won osceola county which is primarily puerto rican. we won all of our major cities, the counties there except one. i put a lot of effort in making sure we get the hispanic vote. i think we did it because they know republicans are going to help them. what i always talk about is living the dream of this country, doesn't matter the color of your skin. you ought to have that dream. i think florida has become the center of the republican party in the country and the rest of the country can learn a lot about what we've done in florida. with regard to the senate majority leader race, i think i'm going to win because i'm talking to my colleagues about what they want. they want
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change. they want to be part of the process. they want to be treated as equals. they want somebody who has a relationship with trump. they want somebody that has a plan. they want somebody that has a relationship with the house. i've got a great working relationship with donald trump. he supported me when i ran against mcconnell two years ago. i've got a great relationship with the speaker in the house and i think they want somebody that will get things done, business guys. i'm a business guy. we get our stuff done. >> is donald trump supporting you in your race for majority leader? >> we're going to see what he does. he's been very supportive of me when i ran before. he needs to get through his race first. my colleagues want change. they want to be part of the process. >> right. >> they know that donald trump's got a great mandate. they want that to happen. >> let me ask you because donald trump, as you know -- and i don't mean this in a
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pejorative sense -- but he's not the most patient individual in the world and i think he's going to be frustrated if republicans continue to allow the filibuster because as of right now, there are not 60 republican votes which means that if the filibuster exists -- i know you know this but just for folks at home -- the senate minority of democrats will be able to block legislation, including the massive deportation process that donald trump wants to happen and on and on. are you committed to keeping the filibuster? mitch mcconnell said earlier today that the filibuster should stay. >> i believe in the filibuster, but the way you get things done in the senate is you talk to people. i've been up here six years. the republicans and democrats don't talk to each other. we've got to say what's our agenda and be clear. i've done deals all my life and the way i got deals
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done is i said what would you like to have happen and let's see if we can find common ground. that's what we have to start doing. we have to have somebody that's going to run the senate that's going to work with republicans and work with democrats and find common ground and get things done. >> senator, thank you and congratulations on your reelection. president-elect trump says he wants rfk jr. to "go wild" on healthcare. is it a good idea to give somebody who knows so little about vaccines and science and healthcare a key role in vaccines and science and health policy? cnn's own health expert dr. sanjay gupta will weigh in next. ♪
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said immediately, his words, he would begin studying vaccine safety. i want to bring in dr. sanjay gupta. what are you hearing from experts in the health and medical community about the idea of rfk jr. having a role in all this? >> well, it's a diverse community. they don't usually speak with one monolithic voice, but i think with regard to vaccines, people are in pretty much universal agreement some of his comments really stand the possibility of rewinding lots of decades, generations really of public health advances. that is a real concern. the challenge i think is at the same time he says things that there's a lot of agreement on. the make america healthy again movement, he's not the first person to talk about this, anderson, but the idea that in the united states we spent $4.5 trillion on healthcare and have some of the worst outcomes in the developed world is true. again, he's not the first person to bring this up. those are true statements and a lot of those negative
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impacts can be attributed to food. 70% of chronic disease in this country is probably related to how we nourish ourselves. we're spending all this money creating this disease and trying to fix it and on that he makes a lot of good points. might he be able to get something done in that area? we're not sure. with the vaccines i think there's universal agreement among medical professionals he has said some really dangerous things in the past. >> rfk jr. often says he's not antivax. i want to play said he said today in an interview. >> i'm not going to take away anybody's vaccines. i've never been antivaccine. i'm going to make sure the science of safety studies and efficacy studies are out there and people can make individual assessments about whether that product is going to be good for them. >> do you buy that? >> look, i've covered him for a long time and, frankly, it is difficult to sort of pin him down because he says sort of
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two things that are almost the exact opposite. he did this interview can casey hunt a few months ago. listen and i'll explain at the end. >> can you name any vaccines that you think are good? >> i think some of the live virus vaccines are probably averting more problems than they're causing. there's no vaccine that is, you know, safe and effective. >> you did say it. do you still believe it? >> here's what i would say. first of all, i'm not antivaccine. >> how is that statement not antivaccine? >> i can say right now there's no medicine for cancer that's safe and effective. it doesn't mean i'm against all medicines. what i want is vaccines that are proven safe. >> yeah. you heard that. i'm not exactly sure what that means. i'm not antivax, but i
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don't think there are any vaccines that are safe and effective. i don't know what to make of it and i think it's really hard to pin him down. a couple points. first of all, vaccines are tested for safety and efficacy before they are licensed and approved ultimately by the fda. there's a whole process that's very similar to any other drug. they go through these trials and with vaccines in particular like with covid, for example, you have billions of people who have taken it around the world. so you have a lot of post market data, meaning you follow people over time. he's also talked. he continues to talk about the link between vaccines and autism. in june we did an interview where he said he believes vaccines cause autism, so it's confusing. to be clear there, have been these huge studies, i mean hundreds of thousands of kids in many, many countries around the world who are followed for more than a decade, kid who have been vaccinated, who have not been vaccinated, follow them along and say are there increased levels of autism in those who
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have been vaccinated and the answer is no. this has been a widely studied thing. people were concerned. so they studied it for 15, 20 years worth of data. one study came out in 2018 said the kids who were not vaccinated may have been more likely to be on the autism spectrum. it's been debunked, but he continues to bring this up. we don't know what causes autism, but we know vaccines doctor. don't. >> thanks. the nation's capitol on the bring of the second trump
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presidency. this is election night coverage in america continued. i'm anderson cooper. trump's transition team is setting up shop four years after he left in defeat. and in view of his opponents in disgrace. the political landscape historically changed his overwhelming electoral victory. it expanded the number of red states. trump is celebrating his success as harris is conceding the election after their deeply divisive and unpredictable campaign. so, let's talk about the transition process. what are you hearing? >> reporter: well, anderson, something that happened in 2016 is the team didn't feel quite ready to go on day one. remember some of the earliest executive orders including his travel ban faced big legal challenges in the courts. and often sloppy rollout processes. i'm told they are going to try
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to change that this time around. they have already drafted executive orders and reversals of regulations put in place by the biden administration. we saw that happening to a degree when biden first took office. he was reversing a lot of the work that donald trump did by executive order, expect to see that on day one of a second trump term. and of course, the question is who is doing that for him, anderson? when it comes to staffing as you referenced, yes, there are already thousands of people lined up for potential jobs. the question is who trump picks for those positions. and right now, just to give you a sense of how much the jockeying is already underway, palm beach is teeming with potential trump staffers here who a lot of them were here last night at his election night party at mar-a-lago or the convention center and changed or delayed their travel plans. they decided to stick around. that is how quickly they believe he can make these decisions. trump could be making the decisions
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for days. just the process and the way they are approaching this. >> some of these people sat down to have conversations about what they will be interested in. what position they might be interested in. trump did not really want to be part of taking seriously any kind of transition because of the fact he is so superstitious. but one position that will be one of the most important in the administration, the attorney general. one of the things we talked about. drafting those executive orders and what donald trump wants to do on day one. the other thing he wanted to do quite some time is yield enormous amount of executive power and in doing that, that would mean taking the justice department which is under the executive branch, but technically has operated historically as an independent entity and moving it under the executive so he would have so much more power. one of the
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most critical jobs in this administration will be attorney general. because that person will work hand in hand with trump. some of the names we are hearing are texas attorney general ken paxton for example. senator mike lee is on their mark. matt whittaker. former trump attorney. these are people whose names are being floated right now. the other part of why this is so critical, that person is likely going to be responsible for getting rid of or releasing the cases against him. particularly that january 6th case they want to get rid of. >> yeah. and mike lee was at the mar-a-lago watch party last night. we saw him there. when it comes to attorney general, jd vance said something that struck me about six weeks ago. it might be a more important position than the vice president which is only a heartbeat away from the presidency. he was saying that is how they are viewing that role in terms of the importance they were talking about. he viewed it as more important than his own. alabama's senator jeff sessions he took
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from the senate and took in that position, he was so angered by him in his position, it is something trump will give a thought of thought to. >> and bill barr. one of his biggest regrets he has said was bringing bill barr into the administration who turned on him after he was denying the election in 2020. and bill barr said it was because he was lying. but this is something he is putting a lot of consideration into. >> bill barr then obviously criticized him and then voted for him ultimately. just to give you a little bit of a preview into what is ahead for this transition. >> yeah. back with the team in new york. it is interesting how many people cycle out of donald trump's orbit and then sort of come back into it. something happens. >> you are never dead in trump world. >> look. good thing the
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president doesn't hold a grudge. >> how different do you think the setup of his administration is going to be this time compared to last time? >> look i think it will start out much stronger this time. there's a lot of chaos in the beginning. a lot of sniping. a lot of back biting and leaking. this campaign as others have noted was run complete professionally. no leaking. very tight. susie was the chief of staff. i would not suspect any leaks. or they will be exiled. you have competing camps and factions and somebody trying to gain an advantage over others. the campaign team
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got along very well. they knew the order. more twitter followers. addicts. so, they are behind the scenes. low profile. very effective. >> let's be clear, the biggest leaker is donald trump himself. i want to say something about the conversation we heard about the attorney general's office. the government functions because of the norms and the integrity of people in these positions not to abuse these positions. these attorneys general acted as sort of guardrails and told him what he couldn't do. he didn't go after his political enemies, not for lack of trying. the
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attorney general, people who run the regulatory agencies, this could change how the government works and put in the leverage to not only punish his enemies but to pressure people and bring them to heel. >> and if both houses of congress are in republican control, the idea of oversight and investigations of the administration, that is unlikely. >> it would be more likely you have a republican house. there are some names that stand out. he was council to mike pence, but stayed very close to donald trump. they are people who may be highly partisan but worked
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in white house before. they worked in agencies and an ability to just start on day one. i don't think people appreciate how the first six months of the trump administration was where's the bathroom and it's not there. there are people ready to staff it. i'm surprised there's not more sitting elected officials. >> you'll see some more house members and people as things progress forward. a lot of house members, high level positions right? that's a great gig. these are good jobs. a lot of house members. i love to be secretary of the navy and the army. people who are incredibly capable and trump loyalists. >> ken paxton, the attorney general of texas is a guy who himself has had a series of
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legal problems. he was the guy who put the attorney generals together to try to overturn the election in pennsylvania. in 2020. >> i'm not sure ken paxton is on the short list. >> and you have to keep your eyes on the national security space. you have to keep your eyes on that. it is almost always nonpartisan. people who are career. that's not what we saw listed there. they do have to get through some confirmations. >> the people doing the picking. you have people like tulsi gabbard, a friend of mine but her view is not my view. some people will be picked because they will do something that will shock a lot of americans, abandoning a democracy against russia. that's on the table. i don't think we should whistle past the graveyard here. what david
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axlerod is saying, a lot of people don't understand, there is a reason that we do things a certain way in this country. there's a reason you do not have the department of justice, the top cop ins the country, sitting directly under the president of the united states doing whatever he says. there's a reason you want them separate so they can enforce the law. they can prosecute fairly. the very thing donald trump was accusing biden of, that he had weaponnized the department of justice, that he was siccing the federal cops on people, is what donald trump actually want to do. in fact, if biden was somebody who was doing that, i'm sure his own son wouldn't have been prosecuted by his own doj. so biden, there was a firewall there. that may go away. we have never lived in that country. in fact, the reason that we have these norms is because richard nixon actually
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abused those things and america learned a tough lesson. >> let's wait and see. let's not swing too wide here. >> i saw a few attorney generals come and go. >> there is also, the fbi director. these are very big jobs. very big positions. to your point, there are, these are serious adults. people who have taken oaths to the constitution of the united states. >> you have good folks. >> i would like to be surprised on the high side. honestly. as an american. i would like to be surprised. but given what donald trump has said and what we know he has said privately, this bears watching. >> i don't disagree with you. from your perspective. this is what oversight is about in the
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house. in congress. >> but this is my point. right now, i mean, here. you are doing a good job of making sure people stay calm. but people are not calm because donald trump was not calm. for a long time on the campaign trail saying stuff that was scary. now you are looking at possible one party rule with no checks and balances and a president that sounds like he wants to use the doj in a bad way. >> and i would hope the doj is used to get plenty of bad guys. we have so many things to accomplish in our country to make it better. we are talking about deporting illegal immigrants who cross the border. they are criminal aliens, we talked about it before. obama administration did a great job on it. i would like to see the trump administration. >> one of the things you were saying the last couple of weeks on rfk jr. was well look, he is not going to be secretary of hhs because he never would pass confirmation. he could pass confirmation now. >> he could. but i don't think he will be the secretary of
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hhs. i don't think he want to be the secretary of hhs. it is an incredibly nuts and bolts kind of job. i think he would rather be kind of a czar, a health care czar that gets to sit over a lot of things and talk about vaccines and childhood diabetes and health care spending. there are certain things. >> for what it is worth, the west wing advisers are as powerful as some cabinet secretaries. the last person in his ear. so kind of having this floating undefined role. >> even scarier. >> in the president's ear without the oversight of the senate and confirmation. >> it is harder to move the levers right? >> not necessarily. >> if you are the cabinet secretary. still ahead, much more of election night in america.
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donald trump's once unthinkable comeback is shaking up the entire landscape. so interesting what happened this election. male voters were the key to propelling trump to victory. >> no doubt about it. you heard about the way trump was messaging throughout the campaign. it was a direct appeal to male voters and paid off. trump gets 55% of male voter ins this election to harris' 42%. the gender gap when you talk about it, that 13-point advantage swamped the eight-point advantage harris had with women so the gender gap played to trump's advantage. young voters, young male voters 18 to 29-year-old men. trump wins them by two points in the election. 49% to 47%. biden won them by double digits just four years ago.
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trump flipped it around. take a look at the latino vote. trump gets 55% of the young vote. harris, 43%. that 12-point trump advantage four years ago, jake, this category was a 23-point advantage for biden. a 35 point swing with latino men. and black men performed roughly where they were four years ago. harris wins 77% of black men. trump, 21%. a slightly narrower margin than existed with black men with trump and biden four years ago. >> interesting stuff. thanks so much. joining us now, republican congresswoman nancy mays. congratulations on your reelection. i want to ask you about those numbers you saw. trump winning men under 30 years old. based on your time out on the stump and your time campaigning in south carolina and your district, what is the reason do you think behind that flip for men under 30?
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>> well i think attacking male voters, i mean, we saw that on the campaign trail, by some on the far left. i think he gave them a voice, but the other thing about the gender gap this year, too, was that while kamala won women this year, she won women at a smaller more tighter margin than was anticipated as well. so there is a different gender gap so to speak. but we have to work as republicans to win women voters over the next time around as well. >> one of president-elect trump's top priority is deporting all undocumented immigrants. not just those who committed violent crimes. we don't even know how many people that is. do you support that? should the trump administration deport every undocumented immigrant in the country? >> in fact, i have a bill, jake, that we passed in the house with support with over 50 democrats, the violence against women by illegal aliens act. i do support the deportation of
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those who are here illegally and more importantly, we need to have some way to incentivize legal immigration. my district and my state, we need workers here on visas but we want them to come here legally. so how do we move forward and do that and incentivize legal immigration? i would like to start with deporting those who are the most violent criminals. those who are raping people or pedophiles or murderers, they should be the first ones to go. let's figure out a way to incentivize them to come here legally. >> i will not debate you on the issue of the violent people out, obviously. but what about the people who are here illegally and they are the ones working in kitchens and restaurants and they are housekeepers, doing landscaping, they are otherwise peaceful contributors to society, they pay their taxes, et cetera, et cetera. do they
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just get rounded up and deported? is there, you talk about legal immigration for individuals. do they have to go back to their home country and come back into the united states? how is it going to work? 25million people, that's a lot of people. and it will have an impact on the economy. to just explain to me how you envision it working and whether congress assuming the republicans keep control will support a move to deport all of them? >> right, i will not speak for president trump on how he wants to do it. we need workers but our visa program is broken. my district relies on seasonal workers from other countries. they are seasonal, they come here three monthsings six months, nine months. they go home and reapply again. that system is broken. we need to
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fix that system and allow more to come here legally. with the deportation, trump won the popular vote. so far as we can see, and it looks like most americans are okay with the policy of deporting those who are here illegally. get in line, like everyone else who came here legally. do it the right way and let's get it done. that's what the most people in this country want. immigration was on the ballot. women's issues were on the ballot and they chose trump. >> we did see abortion related referendums pass in multiple states like missouri, montana, and arizona supporting abortion rights access to abortion. where do you see that issue going. there are obviously republicans in the house and the senate that are going to continue to push for a national ban of some sort. even if it is
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another 15 or 16 weeks. do you think that should go forward? >> i don't see that on the immediate agenda at all. and the states that this is a states right issue and the states putting abortion as a ballot referendum, that's the right move. i have supported that move. i would support it in south carolina. there is a lot of common ground on issues related to women. he wants to protect women's access to ivf. everyone in this country supports ivf so let's start there. and let's protect women who are victims of rape or incest. access to contraception. birth control. all the things 99.9% of us agree on. that is where we need to start. that is what the mandate i believe is. and you have seen that in red states where people support abortion who are pro choice. we have to read the room as republicans and find a way to balance our beliefs and believing in life. but also women's rights because women care about it and
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it is an issue that i have campaigned on. i worked really hard on this. i have numerous bills that protect women's rights. that is a body of work we as republicans should encourage and work on. i will be there standing in the brink trying to make sure that we do right by women. it is my job. it is what voters ask me and elected me to do and i will be right there with them. >> what will you do if there is a move when it comes to the mailing or shipment of abortion medication, mifepristone? there are those who want to evoke the comstock act to make it illegal to mail it. will you support that? >> i spoke out against the texas cases with mifepristone because i believe those rulings in court were unconstitutional. it is the law of the land. it is approved by the fda. you don't have to agree with the fda, but that is what the fda decided and approved like the alabama ruling. i was one of
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the first republicans to speak out against that. the same thing with the arizona abortion ruling from 1860 something. there are some laws out there that are archaic and we want to make sure we are not running down that rabbit hole and i will support women through and through as i always have in my time in congress. >> all right congresswoman nancy. congratulations again. thank you so much for being with us this evening. >> yes, sir. thank you. >> just ahead, donald trump is the first convicted felon ever elected president of the united states. does his return to the white house mean all his legal troubles will disappear? and should people get rid of the check this box if you are a convicted felon from all job applications from now on? stay with us.
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we are back with our special coverage of donald trump's victory. passing the necessary 270 electoral votes with two more states waited to be projected. arizona and nevada. he will probably win those. but i don't want to get ahead of myself. the big question yet to be answered with donald trump's election, what happens to his criminal
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and civil cases? let's bring in paula reid. in 20 days, the president-elect is due to be sentenced for the 34 felonies he was convicted of in the new york hush money cover-up case, you have new reporting on that? >> that's right. i'm told his legal team to try to make sure that sentencing never happens. they always try to get things delayed. but here they are going to argue to the judge that the sentencing should never happen because now that trump is president-elect, they will say that he is entitled to the same constitutional protections as a sitting president. and should be protected from state actors. in this case, a state prosecutors. the judge has given himself a deadline of november 12th. if he tosses the conviction, there will be no sentencing but if the sentencing continues to go forward, this is the argument that the trump team will make. >> let's turn to the federal cases against trump in
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washington dc. and in florida. what do you know about the next steps that special council jack smith intends to take? >> reporter: so i learned from my sources today jack smith is actually talking to top leaders after the justice department about how to wind down both of these cases. i'm told that these conversations will continue for a few days. they are looking at justice department memos about how you can't indict or prosecute a sitting president. i'm told there is lot to work through here. the future of the special council's office. but we should expect in the coming weeks the special council's office will try to wind down these cases so trump won't have to threaten to fire jack smith. jack smith has an obligation to submit a report detailing all of his findings to the attorney general. and we expect that the attorney general will make that public as he has done with other
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special council reports during his term. >> all right paula, thanks so much. let's go back to the panel here. laura coats joins us, is there any world in which any of these cases against donald trump could be picked up again in four years? the case in georgia? or the two jack smith cases? >> i don't see a world where it is. technically, you could try to toll something. if you are the president of the united states, you can't be elementary school encumbered by different litigation. but you actually can, in fact. in fact, be able to have a case about a president. civil matters. but it is unlikely any world where we will have an instance where these will be told for a period
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of a few years. the question now is about the sentencing date of this new york case. he is a 34-time convicted felon. the voters did not think that was sufficient to say disqualifies for him. but now the judge has a choice. can you actually sentence him for all practical reasons? can you give him a prison sentence? i doubt it. he is the president. you will have a state court try to interrupt him taking options but you have other options. probation, a non-actual prison sentence. but you also have that supreme court case that said up immunity. the judge says tell me if i should go forward in this. >> can i make two quick points? one, donald trump talked about two tiers of justice in this country. if there is any
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indication, it is what we have seen here. and the ability, it is true of any rich person with good lawyers. but especially donald trump. to delay these cases. three of the four cases probably will never be heard. and part of that is because of the way trump's lawyers were able to work the system. the other point i would make is the attorney general merrick garland. he didn't bring the case on election interference or his special council jack smith. until two-and-a-half years after it happened. it wasn't until august of 2023. and i think a lot of people are going to say why did it take so long? why did it take two-and-a-half years for him to bring the case about what happened on january 6th? >> going back to your first point, it is not just that it is two tiers of justice. it is let's take a step back to the whole goal of the presidential run initially wasn't just that he wanted to prove he wasn't a
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loser. and maybe be president again i. was to get to this point where we are right now. to totally avoid all of these prosecutions. all of the questions and federal charges. that was part of the run. here we r. it is happening. and it might be part of the gamble where some are convicted. maybe if i can hold my ground long enough, donald trump would ultimately pardon me. if you are innocent, he might. there are people in the court who said i want to delay my sentencing a little bit more. >> just to be clear, you are talking about the january 6th rioters. many of them have been convicted. hundreds of them have been convicted. is he going to really blanket pardon
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all of them? i can understand the more celebrated cases, the grandma in the wrong place at the wrong time. but some of those people violently assaulted police officers. some of them caused grievous long term injury if not worse to police officers. we really think donald trump is going to pardon them? >> he has his own definition for a lot ofs. it is part of the campaign promise he has made. talking stuart rhodes. 18 years they are intending to serve in prison. he could make a statement about this. but one case i think is very ironic he can't get out from under, that is the exonerated five defamation lawsuit. they filed against for his statements at the recent debate against kamala harris. where he made a statement they had in fact killed someone. they did not. >> the central park five. >> the exonerated five. >> and a defamation case, one
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involving conduct outside of office is not one in which he could escape having to deal with. and so, it is ironic the very case many people pointed to donald trump about as an illustration of his views on black men, on these men, young boys in particular, could be the one that has the longest staying power in the end. >> one quick question. , yes or no, joe biden is going to pardon hunter? >> i don't know. i mean, it's a good question. i don't know. i'm not in the prediction business. >> i would pardon him. >> would he or should he are different questions. >> donald trump said in an interview he would contemplate pardoning hunter biden. >> you think, do you think he will? if it was your son, you would. he has said he wouldn't but that was before he drop out
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welcome back, election night in america continues. here now, two legendary journalists famous for breaking the watergate scandal. bob woodward and carl burnstein. bob, let me start with you, you have interviewed trump at least 20 times. and you said that former president is far worse than richard nixon. obviously, majority of voters were not concerned. i wonder what you thought as you watched the results come in. what you think of where we are at right now? >> well it is the functioning of democracy. so he is
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president-elect. there are a lot of things to watch in what will be the new trump administration. i just want to cite one of them. and that is the relationship trump has with putin, the russian leader. i talked a couple of months ago to dan coats, the former director of national intelligence under trump and i said what's going on in this relationship between trump and putin? and dan coats said it is almost, it is so close it seems like it might be blackmail. cia director bill burns said putin manipulates. he is professionally trained to do that. putin's got a plan just to be, just to do this exactly
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when trump and it is what he did when trump was in office previously. and he is planning it again. at playing trump. so there is much to watch particularly in that relationship. >> obviously. whatever problems the transition had the first time around in the new trump administration, it seems like they have fought those out. they have learned from mistakes. and, this will be far more, perhaps at least, it seems like, it may be more efficient in the transition with no, if they have the senate, if they have the house, obviously the supreme court. what do you make of what this administration will be like? >> well you have correctly pointed out that trump now has institutional memory and knows how to use the levers of the
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presidency. fairly effectively. real question is a philosophical moral constitutional and legal one. that is how is he going to use the immense powers of the president of the united states? he is someone whose life has been spent in retribution seeking grievances to get attention to himself. to get his position favored through these grievances. this is a campaign for president that was about enemies. he has threatened that he wants to bring into courtrooms what he calls the enemies from within. including the press and members of the military that were his chiefs of staff. et cetera. the question is he has this tremendous mandate to do good. he has been elected by this incredible margin. and let's
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hope that there are two donald trumps. that he will use these enormous powers in a constitutional way. >> i don't have any illusions of what he seek to do in terms of his policies but there are ways to do it legally. and in his first term, he went the other way. and so i think the hope has to be that somehow maybe in his early days here, he will read the constitution of the united states and use it. >> has there ever been any kind of situation similar to where we are now? >> well, the concentration of power in the presidency is absolutely astonishing. we have never had a president in the
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modern era that has come back. he said and promised that he will settle scores. he has alienated a lot of people in the national security establishment. you could name the generals in the defense secretaries and the secretaries of state who worked under him who actually didn't even want trump on the ballot so there is a lot of suspicion in our business, in the media, there will be a lot of watching. there is incredible constitutional authority that a president has. and every step is going to be observed and monitored as it should. is there a trump will look at this
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as an opportunity to do good when he was the first time he was president. he did and he absolutely flubbed the coronavirus. he had the information. he could have saved all kinds of lives. he could have been the leader in 2020 that was reelected because he was the hero to save lives. instead, he kept waving it away and saying oh, it's going to go away. it is not a problem. the last conversation i had with him on july 20th, i asked him what are you going to do? what is your plan? incredibly, he said, oh, don't worry. i'll have a plan. in 106 days. 106 days was the election. he was
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welcome back. we are following historic developments unfolding in the united states of america. this is election night in america. continued. right now, donald trump is preparing for his return to the white house after beating vice president kamala harris in a race unlike any in previous u.s. history. let's check back in with david. you have been combing through our exit poll data. what can you tell us about the education divide in this election and how it shaped the race? >> this is the dividing line of american politics. the education divide. that is how we sort ourselves politically these days. look here among white voters with a college degree. white college graduates make up about a third of the electorate. kamala harris wins them 52% to trump's 45%. biden
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won these voters by three points four years ago. she expands that. this was her one area of growth, basically, to a seven point advantage. this is the trump base. 66% for trump, 32% for harris. four years ago, but he grew the share. the trump turnout was on the rise. so they make up 39% of the electorate this time. now i want to take a look at voter of color who have a college degree. 65% go for harris. 32% go for trump. that's a 33-point advantage. four years ago, biden won the group by 43 points. if you look at voters of color without a college degree, we see a similar trend. here, harris wins them by 30 points. 64% to 34%. that 30-point gap, that was 46 points advantage for biden four
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years ago. so john, you see that biden's big advantages with the categories, harris still wins them. she won them by less. >> she won them by less. let's show how this plays out at the map. let's just bring into the conversation. now you are looking at the deeper the purple, the more people without a college education live in that part of the country. you see the deep shade of purple if it is white. higher rate of education. if it is purple it is lower so let's use battleground pennsylvania as an example. you see deep purple. so let's draw it out. let's draw this out. go around here. come down. it is a little rough. so why am i doing that? turn this off. okay, there is your non-college. highest percentage of non-college educated voters in that swath right there. turn this off.
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look at it. that's the trump base. it will be trump red. that is a huge source of turnout for him and the like. so let's bring it back out. turn this off. bring this back out and show you this again. this is non-college educated. you get into some of the cities and it is not is pronounced. bring this up. detroit, not quite as purple as what you saw just in the rural areas of pennsylvania. but it is, you have again a higher population. let's take a look at this now. donald trump gets 33% of the vote in wayne county. gets up to 34% there. if you come back, it is a little bit higher. in the battleground state, that makes the difference. one other key point, if you come to the suburbs this is where you see
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it. i was showing the idea of the non-college educated voters. if you look at pennsylvania as a state, the battleground states tend to hung the national average. about 43% of americans have a college degree. 57% have no college degree. they hug the national average. watch the graphic. i was just down here. you see what happens? they go way down in the area of the trump base. so let's bring this back out. that is statewide again. this is no college degree. that is college degree. let's pick montgomery county. they jump out. non-college degrees go back. what happens? biden won it big. harris won it big. so education is now the biggest dividing line in american politics. and you can look at the demographics. look at what the census bureau tells you. and it will be red or blue. it is
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almost automatic. >> fascinating stuff. the race for the white house is decided and trump is get a second act in american politics raging questions about what lies ahead in the nation. this is cnn's coverage of election night in america continued. less than 48 hours after trumps paradigm shifting victory. we are getting new insights into how trumps so soundly defeated harris, the handwringing and second-guessing within the democratic party. we are also tracking outstanding races that will deliver the cliffhanger ,
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whether republicans will maintain control of the house of representatives or if democrats will manage to take it back claiming a consolation prize of sorts. with republicans winning back control of the senate the gop could hold the levers of power in both chambers giving trump even more leeway to advance his engendered up unencumbered. let's bring you to abby philip who was there when harris gave her concession speech in washington. you have new reporting on the democrats thinking. tell us more. >> reporter: in a close election like this every decision comes under scrutiny when the candidate loses and this is no different. the number of things democrats are talking about publicly and privately that went wrong are pretty much everything. one source talked to me about this idea that the ground game could make up for the difference
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between harris and trump in a tight race. a couple of weeks ago the campaign gathered some of its closest supporters and donors and presented a convincing presentation about how they can compete in all seven of the battleground states and part of that was the impact of the ground game which the source now says may have been overstated in terms of how it can overcome the fundamentals of a environment that was not favorable to harris. on that environment, my colleague is here with me now, one of the things both of us are hearing is at the core of this. you can talk about tactics but i think a lot of people are also centering on a fundamental issue which is on the message. the harris campaign made the decision to talk about abortion and democracy hoping that would change the electorate but many people publicly and privately are saying the real problem is a failure to address a whole
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swath of voters, working class voters of all races and genders. >> one of the things i have been picking up as i talked to a variety of strategists in battleground states, you are saying the ground game for sure but also one thing people tend to do is to fight the last word and abortion rights were at the center of the midterms in 2022. the idea that abortion rights could carry harris over the finish line, there was too much reliance placed on that given the state of the economy. one of the biggest changes was who was going to be the change candidate and when harris became the nominee so quickly she was unable to separate herself so she used the fight of abortion rights as her anthem before she was at the top of the ticket but was it enough? as we spent the day talking to people there is no doubt the soul-searching has given way to finger-pointing which is always the case in a defeat like this but i am
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hearing talk for the need and call of a autopsy deep inside these results here like the republicans did in 2012 after obama took reelection. one thing that has unified the democratic party for years is the disdain for trump. was that enough? you and i remember from chicago how harris was joyfully diminishing him but that gave way to elevating him. was that the right choice? >> i think there is a sense that harris was so comfortable in that terrain but not as comfortable on the other stuff, immigration and economy , when we look at the exit polls they were at the top of the list. so i think everybody in the democratic party right now agrees that there needs to be some soul-searching about what happened. the problem though is that everybody has a different idea of what that is and i think that is what will continue to be a tug-of-war
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within the democratic party in the months ahead. >> thank you abby and jeff, let's go to kayla at the white house. all of this happening as biden is due to address the nation tomorrow. >> he spent his own day today behind closed doors collecting his thoughts and allowing harris to be in the spotlight conceding her race but she he will address the public at the rose garden here tomorrow morning. it is expected to be a high-level overarching speech where he talks about the need for the country to come together. he ran four years ago as restoring the soul of our nation but that the divisions still remain. there is soul-searching going on among the biden camp and they are angry about how their candidate was treated back in the summer when he was edged out of the race by the parties powers that be. i talked to several long time biden aids and their finger-pointing is going
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directly at former president obama and nancy pelosi and in the words of one of these aides, twice our party leaders in 2016 and 2024 pushed aside biden for somebody that would generate more enthusiasm and twice we lost referring to hillary clinton in 2016 and now harrison 2024. they say biden remains the only candidate who has beaten trump and he was tossed over again. that is one school of thought and there is others as well. there are aids that think maybe they did not grasp his deep popularity within the electorate, they did not believe some of the polls but this will cast a big paul over what biden is able to do in his final months especially if there is any semblance of a farewell tour he is able to embark on. >> not long ago biden called trump supporters garbage, are they not watching the same screen the rest of the world is? >> there is quite a bit of
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rhetoric on behalf of the president maligning his predecessor in public and behind closed doors. that is different language when he is on a campaign trail than when he is trying to give lofty speeches in the role of commander in chief and that is the role we expect him to step into tomorrow but certainly there is quite a bit of anger in frustrating still simmering within the biden camp. >> thank you very much. joining us now is debbie from the great state of michigan. congresswoman, your fears were as always, well-founded. harris lost michigan, we should also note though that your colleague congresswoman alyssa took her senate race. so what was she able to do that harris was not? >> unfortunately i was not surprised and i think i am not
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quite as depressed as others because i thought what we are watching today could very likely happen. i think people never got to know harris during the time she was in this campaign. alyssa is well known, she worked hard, she got around the state, she is known as being a tough woman. she was victorious by 18,000 votes but she worked it and people knew who she was. this was a event driven campaign. frankly i really do think we did not talk about some of the issues we needed to talk about and alyssa did. >> about what bernie sanders said today, he said it should come as no great surprise that a democratic party which has a band and working class people would find that the working class has abandoned them while
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the democratic leadership defends the status quo the american people are angry and want change. they are right. what do you think about that? >> you know i talked to all of you during the last month and said we had a number of problems. we had the same problem in 2016, union halls. it is not just union halls, it is working men and women. there were four key issues and two of them being more critical. number one was the economy. working men and women are struggling, the cost of a gallon of milk or a dozen eggs or the price of gasoline, i was about to say trumps all others but that is what we saw as well. that is what they were worried about. we did not talk enough about that. i did see movement in the last week as trumps rhetoric get more
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vitriol and whatever we want to call it. there were some people that told me they were voting for trump because of that, they were worried about democracy and the other two issues i saw, a lot of were women's issues but it played less of a role and you felt it out there, less than immigration and frankly the economy and immigration were the the two things people were emotional on. >> congresswoman, it is chris wallace, good to see you again. i want to ask you about the city of dearborn just outside of detroit. a city that is a majority arab-american population. trump took a polarity of the vote as a lot of american arabs refused to vote for harris and green party nominee joel stein took 18% of
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the vote there. how much do you think that the policy of biden towards gaza and the fact that vice president harris was tied to that policy, how much did that hurt harris in michigan? >> michigan was complicated but the mid east is one of the issues. by the way it is all sides, people in the jewish community and arab community have been hurting and she lost some jewish voters as well. trump took both dearborn and dearborn heights and people made it clear even when you reminded them , i got in trouble reminding jake about some of those issues, they wanted to send a message. they are angry and they wanted people to hear it. so those were numbers that contributed to former and now to be
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president trump's victory, they were not the only factor if you start digging into the numbers. >> congresswoman, it is john king we spent time together on the ground in the final weeks and your warnings were correct. i want to use the map a little bit. i will tell you what i am looking at, this is wayne county. we sell trump getting 34% of the vote. that is dearborn, but trump gets 34% after only getting 30% in detroit and the wayne county area four years ago and the double whammy if you move to the north to macomb county the vice president gets 42% in losing. trump is at 56. four years ago biden was at 45%. if you look at the 45% for biden losing, her margin went down in macomb and trumps vote went up, how do democrats fix their
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turnout problem and what is the message that caused you to go the wrong way in those two key counties? >> i am one of those people that has been saying all day that democrats need to do some serious soul-searching and there are some really complicated problems. i told you all, there is a gender issue but african-american males were part of that. that certainly contributed to some of the reduction. i told you when jim came in and i was there meeting with some of the black ministers in the clergy, they were open about being taken for granted and i think we have to be careful here. to not just blame, everybody was to point fingers. i think democrats need to do some real soul-searching. we cannot just
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go in and talk to people a month before the election and take them for granted. a lot of people are tired of being taken for granted. the african america community has members of it who are one of those groups that really are concerned about issues. they want to see us talking about all the time and addressing. >> you mentioned those issues, i have the map up again and you know this, trump has twice now flipped the blue wall, pennsylvania, michigan and wisconsin. you mentioned the black pastors. so what is it? when i was talking to voters, a lot of union workers, some of them african americans said they got trumps transgender ads criticizing the president being too liberal with them, not with us on that issue was a factor. do you believe that was a factor in this race and do democrats need a better way to talk about that? >> those ads were powerful and we know it. people may not want to publicly admit it but it did. by the way when you talk
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about many faiths, it is not just one faith, many of the baptist ministers, they have a lgbt problem so there are issues for them, it is difficult for them. so i think everybody has a right to love who they want to love but we need to find a way to not lose the people that we lost and as you are saying, it is only 3% but when you add up 3% here and 3% in this county it adds up to a lot of numbers. this was a digger victory for trump than it was for him in 2016 which i just knew for a month, before the election, i knew he was winning. >> you see it right there. >> thank you john and thank you congresswoman. coming up more than 72 million americans and counting chose trump. we will
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former president trump is very turning to the white house becoming the second person to get reelected after losing a reelection bid. katelyn you are learning more about how trump is preparing for his return to the world stage. >> yes, a lot of phone calls happening today in palm beach from the former president as he is now the president elect, and making phone calls not just with potential people in the administration but also world leaders. we have been talking to our sources all day, trump has spoken to at least 10 world leaders today ranging from the british prime minister, the ukrainian president, the chinese president, all of these world leaders, trump is calling them or they are trying to quickly get in touch with him. that is not unusual for when somebody is elected they often get congratulations but some of these world leaders were in this position before and they know flattery any personal relationship can go a long way
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with trump. >> we know these world leaders have at least part of trump pegged, they know he is also a little bit of a loose cannon so they cannot know exactly what he is going to do but they know if they call him and flatter him and tell him how great he is doing that it bodes well for them in the future and we are told by a number of advisors that they have been really keeping track of who is reaching out and when they are reaching out, not just since he was victorious but before he was actually elected when it started to look like he could be elected. trump often on the campaign trail talks about victor of hungry. victor spent a lot of time courting trump, calling him and coming down to visit him in florida. that stuck out to trump because remember trump views himself as the principles still even when he was not president. >> that was a unusual tweet
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from a world leader, fingers crossed that trump is victorious. trump has promised he will end the war within 24 hours but still to this day he has not answered whether or not he wants ukraine to take this war? >> remember he was adamant against the leader of ukraine until they had that meeting and he came out of a meeting with him and said he has a good relationship with both of them but before we were just hearing about russia. to make a notable change as all of the world leaders are still processing and navigating the results of the election. >> we will check in with you shortly, we want to hear directly from voters and about the choices they made. we have been talking to people in battleground pennsylvania. >> i still have goosebumps. >> it was like christmas came early for bernie at parkhill jewelry in pennsylvania. the republican small business owner sporting trump shoes and a
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custom trump ring he made himself feels like the country is finally back on the track. >> what did it mean for you to vote for him it third time? >> it was great, i thought he did so well in 2016, i wanted to see him do this again. >> reporter: in a small red rope in lancaster county, supporters of trump echoed what his fans elsewhere felt about the country. >> i am feeling relieved that america came together and saved our democracy. >> reporter: gabby says she is a republican but also pro-choice. >> i know the main concern is women's rights but strong women will always rally together and fight for our rights and we need to vote and come together to make the right decision in the states. unfortunately that has come to that but it was not my deciding factor. >> are you concerned trump will be hostile to women's rights? >> no, as a nation women will come together and prove ourselves. >> in lancaster, a bluer city
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in the red county, democrat sarah thomas said she could not believe that it was not close. >> i am pretty disappointed. i am sad and worried. i woke up feeling kind of disgusted and ashamed. >> the mother who works with children said for her it was about reproductive rights and rhetoric. >> i want to raise my son to be someone who believes men and women have equal dignity and autonomy over their bodies. i do not believe in the xena phobic and racist hate that has been skewed. >> democrat greg colton was at a loss for words. >> i really hope that we would have something other than a caricature of a president for the next four years. >> a pennsylvanian worried that
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the discourse in american politics will only get worse. >> i wanted to put somebody in office who will embody the ideals and integrity of the american people and i do not think we have that. >> with the voters having delivered the judgment the focus turns to what happens next under a new president. >> i am hoping for secure vote borders, economic change and i am hoping enough women come out and demonstrate the need for women's rights and hope for a better place than we have been in for the last four years. >> anderson here in lancaster county, democrats told me they were hoping to close the margins in this traditionally red county. that is something we were looking at yesterday, governor shapiro got 48% of the vote in 2022 but in the end harris paste with president biden back in 2020 only getting about 41% of the vote. trump
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improved his margins here and that was the story of many places across the commonwealth. >> thank you, appreciate it. let's talk about the democratic party. what needs to happen, what needs to be looked at and analyzed. >> i had a lot of important discussions going on there earlier. i guess i call myself a dingle democrat at this moment. i started talking about this last night. this was not just a problem in this election, this has been a growing problem over time. this disaffection among working-class voters with the democratic party and the growth of the democratic party as a college-educated metropolitan party that approaches working-class voters in a missionary way saying we will help you become more like us and it sends these signals, not
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intentionally, but they speak a lack of respect. i think the party in some ways has lost its ability to talk to working-class voters. you can see it and it is not just white working-class voters, it is black working-class voters, hispanic working-class voters and the party paid a price. i think harris spoke to some of the concerns of folks but you cannot develop those relationships in 90 days. the second conversation that happened had to do with biden and i want to point out -- >> there was a quote earlier from a unnamed person saying twice our party leaders in 2016 and 2024 pushed aside biden for somebody that would generate more enthusiasm and twice we lost. biden remains the only candidate that has beaten trump and he was tossed over once
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again. >> signed joe biden. >> in the exit polls biden had a 40% favorable approval rating. nobody would get reelected with that number but more importantly harris among the 59 who disapproved him , she lost 82-16. the entire campaign that was run against her linked her to biden. the reason people had concerns about biden were not so much those but i raised concerns a year and a half ago and it had nothing to do with obama, it had everything to do with age. i said my concern was not political. how do you tell people you should elect someone -- >> it is remarkable and i do not know if at some point there will be a reckoning -- i will give in, i was not trying to cut you off. big picture in
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2016, these two parties had flaws. they were about hypocrisy. you had the republican party which is the party of lincoln, radical individual liberty, that smuggled in a bunch of white nationalist and that does not make sense. will that blow up the republican party? at the same time you had the democratic party, the party of working-class people that smuggled in all of the elitism. if you were not eating kale you were not allowed in the door, i wrote a book about this, both parties were fundamental hypocrisies and the question was, was the racism in the party lincoln going to blow up the party or the elitism in the democratic party going to make it blowup? well our party just blew up. the condon sentient, the smarty-pants stuff, the changing what you have to call people every six months,
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somebody called me a by pok, what is that ? >> i do not know what that means. >> they make up stuff every six months to make sure you feel like a idiot but that is not the worst of it. it is much more insidious. in philadelphia we are doorknocking, there is no ground game for trump and we are laughing at trump, there is no ground game, nobody is walking around with literature, did not have to because they were on this thing. this is a smart phone that makes you dumber when you look at it but it turns out that the working class is getting its information completely differently on channels we do not know about or streaming platforms we do not have or gaming services and the trump campaign was putting information and advertisements -- we woke up in a body bag and
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did not know it. we thought if we did something on 60 minutes and here on cnn -- it turns out the elitism was so bad we did not even understand where the working class was and that is a much deeper a problem then we recognize. >> let me eat my crow, i always thought trump could be victorious i did not think he would take it by these margins and i miss read the room. i focus on suburban women and what the democrats focused on was abortion. this was going to be the animating issue it was in the 2022 midterms. it turns out a lot of states are okay with what trump said, let the states deal with it. including the fact that most of the grounds other than georgia which had a restrictive law, people separated the vote, they separated the candidate from the issue and that was not the focus. something i did hear from and could have been motivating was the protests on college campuses. women's in
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the suburbs are horrified when they see jewish kids being bullied and intimidated by protesters who are then defeated by elitist academics who are supposed to be the people looking out for them. that feels like a shift that goes out of the mainstream of where the country wants to be and that is one of the areas where the room was misread. >> to quick points, not to pile onto the democrats but i will. a issue that access talked about, biden did not want to get out because he said harris cannot be victorious so there is a built in delay of getting out because the only possible alternative, harris cannot be victorious. not to put her in a good light but she was starting in a bad spot to begin with. the premise was you are not going to be victorious and the second point is more on the ground. talking about knocking on doors. there is a article in
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the local philly news about the democratic chairman bob and he says i would have liked to see the harris campaign coordinate with us a bit on the ground. talk to us, show us some respect, that did not happen. they were just elitist, they went out and did their own thing, they did not include the democratic city committee or world leaders. >> to bring about needed change from the exit poll, 28% of people, trump took that 74-24 and this has to do a lot with this. >> next, wins and losses on both sides of the abortion battle. more on that on the other side.
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colorado and montana all enshrined a constitutional right to abortion in their state constitutions. in nevada and arizona voters passed measures of protecting legal abortion up to the point of viability which rejected the 15 week ban in arizona. missouri voters also narrowly protected their states near total ban establishing a constitutional right up to the fetal of viability. new york enshrined a broad set of rights into the constitution including the right to a abortion. in nebraska, two dueling measures were on the ballot, voters keeping the states ban on abortions after 12 weeks of a pregnancy and rejecting a separate more expansive measure. a florida ballot amendment fell short of the 60% majority needed for passage keeping in place a six week in there. in south dakota that states near total ban will also remain in place. >> thank you jake. this is
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something i have been rattling around or has been rattling around in my brained last night, the question about why the harris campaign got it so wrong in the push for freedom for reproductive rights. for the idea that women and men were going to come out in droves on this issue in the first presidential election post roe v wade in the way they did in 2022. >> why do you think that? >> most of them passed right? >> what i was told today by a republican pollster who was looking at a lot of the data was that there has been time for the reality of the shift in the law from the national level to the state level to sink in and what has happened is that
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in some of these key states, michigan for example, two years ago there was a referendum on the ballot, arizona and nevada there were referendums on the ballot, not that this is not a huge issue for a lot of women and men but that because many of them in particular the swing states, felt like they were dealing with that, not all swing states, georgia for example but many of them felt like they were dealing with it that the could prioritize and did prioritize other issues like the economy, immigration ahead of this issue when they decided to vote. >> the reason i am asking is because fundamentally those abortion measures did end up working. what they did not do is over animate and they did not create a scenario where voters decided we are going to do this all the way up and down the ticket. the other thing is, i am not sure voters believed trump was ever truly pro-life so to speak. while they
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understand him seeing it as a conservative victory but they were more or less convinced by his waffling this summer where he would not come down on some of these issues so they did not see it as a threat. the idea was, the damage is done and if i want to do something in my state there is more than likely going to be a referendum. >> i want to pick up on this issue of how trump was successfully able to make this issue fuzzy. we will look at the exit polls for weeks and finding nuggets and on this issue i found one today. when people were asked, should abortion be legal in all or most cases? 65% said yes, to thirds said yes. 32% said illegal. while harris was victorious overwhelmingly among people that said abortion should be legal in all cases, when it went most cases it was
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a split. 49% who said abortion should be legal in most cases voted for harris, 49% voted for trump and the point was that trump talking about leaving it up to the states and i will not push for a national abortion ban, he made the issue fuzzy to a large degree and a lot of people that are pro-choice did not see him as a threat. >> it is all interesting, we will go through those for a long time. next the richest man in the world helped deliver trump a second turn, what does muscat want in return? stick with us.
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billionaire elon musk for his support. >> he is a special guy, a super genius. >> reporter: it is no wonder trump is grateful, elon musk went all in. >> we have never seen a media baron in this day and age become so involved with one person. >> reporter: elon musk spent at least 118 million on trump and gave out 1 million per day to supporters. he inundated x a platform he owns with trump information. >> he has millions of followers on x and he spread trumps baseless lies on the election. now at trumps side on election night and posting the future will be fire emoji. what does the future hold for elon musk? trump said he will be influential voice in the government, tasked with
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downsizing the government by 2 trillion per year. >> you are the greatest cutter, they go on strike and you say that is okay, you are gone. >> reporter: elon musk showed himself in the oval office with a caption. one possible obstacle? >> conflict of interest he receives contracts from the federal government. >> reporter: his companies had 3 billion in government contracts last year according to the new york times. could his profits grow thanks to his ties with trump? >> for elon musk there is obvious policy benefits if he gets in with the administration. >> reporter: x could also benefit as a hub of mag a online and teslas stock jumped 50% even though it has barely any contracts with the government. the two have similar views on immigration,
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deregulation, free speech, gun rights and conspiracy theories. >> they both have track records of having close relationships turned sour quickly. if for some reason one delivers on the relationship more than the other that is when i can see the egos clashing. >> reporter: elon musk said during a live stream on x his political action committee will keep going beyond the election and weigh in on future elections. as the world's richest man, elon musk has the means to back that up. >> thank you so much. david, what kind of a role do you think elon musk may play? >> i think he and rfk junior will have partner desks, they will sit across from each other in the white house. >> he has companies to run. >> he is a incredibly bright guy, i had the opportunity to spend time with him. he is the
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u.s. space program at this point in time. putting payloads into space and he is doing incredible things. i think you will offer a unique perspective on how the government operates. i would love to see him figure out how to cut government spending, if he can do that it is more impressive then landing the giant rocket in the grubber. >> he is a brilliant engineer. let's stipulate that. he also purchased x and turned it into a sewer of conspiracy theories including posts that support the president's conspiracy theories. i am sure the number is far beyond the 118 million reported and i think he really wants to be the great american oligarch. by the way it was reported that he has had conversations regularly with vladimir putin. none of this
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makes me comfortable with him playing this advisory role in the government. >> he also provided starling to keep ukraine connected. >> we can all praise elon musk and we should, when he is in his lane doing what he does he is one of the greatest people ever. link, tesla, but it is a structural problem that somebody with his resources is on his way to becoming 1 trillion there, can justice dump unlimited amounts of money in our system and have undo influence and purchase half of all social media on earth. >> i think the question is, that we all have to grapple with is right after it was clear trump was the president elect, he starts tweeting , you are the new media to everybody on x. cnn, mainstream media is
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extinct. this was our plan to ruin it. i think platforms like x and facebook and all of social media to help when used properly as microphones for people to have a voice but it is very clear since elon musk has taken over that the algorithms are working in a couple of ways that are causing greater division in our community. scott and i sometimes sit next to each other and he has a different feed than i have because we are fed things it inks we want and they are very polarizing. then we also have people that get lifted up more and they happen to be people that agree with trump and people that do not agree with trump get shadow band. that is not the media, it is a platform and you can do whatever you want with the influence it has, not just twitter, instragram, facebook, tiktok, there is a issue here.
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that is not why harris lost but we need to grapple with the role that social media is playing with kids and politics and our future. >> you can google how search engines are prioritized. it all contributes in one way or another and it is important to know who has the rains. >> there are two sets of laws, the supreme court allowed this unlimited amount of money dumping and there are legal protections that allow companies to do what they want. i think in a normal country we would say hold on a second maybe we need to have a different set of regulations for social media platforms. maybe less money in the system but that conversation is not happening yet. >> we have to go now, changing political climates with trump back in the white house, what does that mean for the future of earth's climate? we will talk about that ahead.
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house there is growing questions about what he will do if anything to fight it. >> one of the most urgent tasks not only for our movement but our country is to decisively defeat the climate hysteria hoax. >> joining us now it's chief climate correspondent bill. what do you expect from the administration? >> i expect him to undo as much as he can. we just got died at that 2024 will go down as the first year to smash past 1 .5 degrees of global warming. that is the number everybody is trying to hold. when you look at lake beds and ice cores, it is the highest in 1000 years. the air temperatures and sea temperatures are supercharging the storms so we are seeing it from asheville, milton, the west coast of florida, spain, there is no snow on mount fuji, the amazon is in a drought in
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the country just elected the most notorious climate denier ever. 20% of the world says it is not happening. this is a test, the next five years are vital to bending the climate curve scientists tell us and he seems determined to pull out of the paris climate records and rollback the incentives of bidens inflation reduction act. hundreds of millions of dollars pouring in, we can see how much he can do. >> it was not talked about in the election at all. >> it is often framed as a false choice between economy and climate, people know without a balanced economy there is no climate. 1 billion people depend on the sweet spot
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and we have now exceeded it. nobody knows the physics now, there is the mitigation of stop using the fuels that burn as fast as ethically possible but how do you respond to the built in pain already here? we saw disaster response in the first administration where he holds back depending on the politics so it is a dark day for people that work around climate space, earth scientists, folks that thought the country was serious about this. coming up the coverage continues, the 2024 election results. we will be right back. the heart of political power in the united states now preparing for breaking disruptive come back of one
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donald john trump. it's election in america continued. i am jake tapper. there is no disputing the sweep of now president-elect trumps white house victory. but there are many unanswered questions tonight about the road ahead. serious concerns over how he will lead the nation. his shakeup of the electoral map,'s win of the popular vote for the first time, prompting republicans to claim a mandate to carry out mr. trump's most aggressive items on his america first agenda. there is one last hope for democrats in this election, as they wait to learn if they have successfully flipped the u.s. house of representatives or, or, if republicans will hold onto control of the chamber. we could get new results on that at any moment. the party of trump is artie set to wield new power on capitol hill after winning back control of the u.s. senate. let's get to katelyn collins. she is in west palm beach, florida. katelyn, mr. trump will be back at the way how soon at the president biden's invitation.
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>> yeah. something, jake, that we did not see four years ago when the roles were reversed. what we are seeing that now. we are here in west palm beach. what are you hearing about when this meeting between donald trump and president biden took place? >> reporter: biden invited donald trump to come to washington for the transition. the trump team quickly except did. again, not something that we saw four years ago. had absolutely no meetings. now we are told they want this to happen as early as possible. trumps team is having conversations about what exactly is going to washington. i was told it could happen as early as next week. they are trying to get all the wheels moving here, as we know, the transition is in motion. we will fill administration slots and now he wants this meeting to happen and happen quickly. >> it wa today to see emmett -- harris's concession speech it was giving trump something that he never gave to them, which was not only a concession speech but also acknowledging a legitimate
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victory as she did when she came out . two things stood out to me. one, she's going to be the one certifying his win come january 6th, as well remember, trump try to usher mike pence into doing what he did not have the legal ability to do. and two, just looking at this. he was post about fraud in philadelphia and detroit and saying law enforcement was coming and there's cheating happening. even though officials there said there was no evidence of any of that. as he started to do better in the polls, the results from the voting, all that stopped. he hasn't posted once on truth social today. >> that's what we saw leading up the election as well. not even just the post. but during that rally in pennsylvania he started claiming that the 2024 election was going to be rigged. something we
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coincidentally never hurt again. especially as the number start coming in. >> not a single claim of fraud since donald trump was declared the winner of the 2024 election. >> that is quite a coincidence. now let's go to abby phillip, who has been covering the harris campaign and is anchoring here in d.c. abby, after the resounding defeat where the democratic leaders go from here? >> jake, we have been talking a lot about finger-pointing happening within the democratic party. after that, one of the things that we are hearing is the question of who is going to be the leader of the democratic party here in washington. jeff, what are you hearing about this bench that has been around now for a while ? it was sort of put on ice while joe biden became the nominee. a conversation has restarted among democrats pick >> it deftly has. as we see president biden in the rose garden tomorrow we know that a lot of democrats in state capitals will be watching this. if you look at these battleground states, a lot of them have democratic governors. a few ambitious senators as well. look, this is the point where democrats are going to
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begin rebuilding their bench. today was the day for vice president harris. >> it was notably quiet from some of these very people who are actually very powerful surrogates for vice president harris. i think there was a sense, let her have her moment. also, let the campaign grief. it's only a matter of time before we see some of these people come out and take charge of this resistance of what the trump air i will look like. >> there will be a changing of the guard, a passing of the torch. what was on the campaign trail recent weeks, he saw and i sought, the clintons, the obama's. president biden wasn't out there as much but joe biden was. this is a new moment. we of course have to add vice president harris to the list. she is just, i'm told, going to be deciding what type of apparatus she might set up when she leaves. all of these things will come in time. but there is a big democratic bench out there. and there is a range of ideologies and views. so that will be coming as the
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trump transition sort of begins. this will be the beginning of the democratic rebuilding is will pick >> part of this is a rearview mirror looking at whether or not they should have had a party. what would have happened if joe biden left the race even a month earlier than he did? or perhaps a year earlier than he did. there were so many people that i talked to this summer who really did want a primary when you saw a lot of these people , and others, actually going back and forth about who could be the strongest candidate pick >> without a doubt. just think how different this would be. president biden would be leaving office in a couple of months in a much stronger position in terms of his old legacy. if he would have step aside on his own. that didn't happen. now we are going to see this. but it is interesting to see. there is a democratic bench out there and this is one of the fascinating fallouts of any election. many of them will rise. >> many democrats are preparing
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for the next generation . many of whom is going to be the vice president of the united states, j defense. check, back to pick we want to get an update on the ongoing fight for control of the u.s. house of representatives. boris, where do things stand at this hour? >> reporter: jake, the house of representatives is still up for grabs but things are trending in one specific direction. let's take a look at the balance of power. the state of play for the chamber. hundred 91 seats held by democrats, two pickups, 280 tell by republicans with six pickups. you will notice, the republicans only need 10 more seats to take control of the chamber. currently there are 36 that are still getting ironed out as we get more votes in. so what does this mean for the magic number? that democrats need to take control the chamber from republicans. democrats have to pick up eight republican seats, currently, they lead in four races in republican districts. complicated matters. republicans lead in two races
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where democrats hold seats. if you do the math, that is a net gain of two seats, way fewer than the eight they would need to take control of the chamber. but, not all of the votes have been counted. let's get some key races as we have live results trickling, slowly trickling . beginning with house district 19 in new york. this is in upstate new york, the binghamton and ithaca area. josh riley currently at a 3800 vote lead over the incumbent republican congressman , mark, who is a freshman. they both have moderated stances throughout this race. right now riley has almost a 4000 vote lead with 94% of the vote left there. in the meantime, zooming out to the west coast, this is the 47th district in california. the republican in this race, ahead of -- by 1000 votes . this is the district left with an open seat and as
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porter decided to run for senate she lost in the primary, wound up winning a senate seat last night. here, a district won by joe biden four years ago , a 33 fully pick 69% of the vote in there. again, these votes are slowly trickling in, jake. but we are keeping track of them. >> boris, thank you so much. inside of the democratic party the blame game has begun. we have more than that. it's all just getting started. the finger-pointing coming cremations, try to figure out why things went so terribly, terribly long -- run for the democratic party pick >> house democratic leaders are convening a conference call tomorrow afternoon with the full house democratic call. this the first time for members to get on one call and talk about it went wrong in this election. you were here some of the sound public. some blaming joe biden for not getting out of the race really. others blaming their message. some blaming liberals for pushing the party message too far to the left. other saying it did not cater to their base and
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they went after moderates instead at the expense of their progressive base. were starting to see some of this play out in public as well. bernie sanders, the independent with senate democrats put out a tweet earlier today saying that it should come as no great surprise that a democratic party, which has abandoned working-class people, would find that the working class has abandoned them. but then some folks were not aligned with that part of the party went after people like bernie sanders. this is what richard said, was a democratic congressman from new york. he said, donald trump has no greater friend than the far left, which has managed to alienate historic numbers of latinos, blacks, asians and those from the democratic party. he went on to criticize defund the police, along with other issues as well. this all comes as the democrats in the senate and the house are grappling . about how to
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position themselves with this new republican majority. they go toe to toe ? do they block the republican efforts returning? they try to cut deals with the new republican majority. that will be part of the debate going forward. we don't know what else -- house democrats, jake will be in the majority. things trending the direction that will be something for democratic leader jeffries as well. >> my panel is back with me. i just happened to be on my phone and on twitter . i saw post from mike, who used to be the press secretary for bernie sanders. and is now the press secretary for aoc. she had an instagram live that was about to start. so i clicked and i watched my very first aoc instagram live. here are some of that. >> when he says he's going to do something, believe him. i believe, just today, his press secretary confirmed his commitment to mass deportations
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beginning the day after his presidency. rfk trying to remove fluoridated water. i'm here to sugarcoat what we all are about to collectively experience. >> i was very proud of myself pick >> thank you very much. >> our baby is growing up. >> of 55 years old and have figured out to click on instagram. she's not wrong. you heard rick scott say , and i forget if it was rick scott were nancy mays, oh, it was nancy mays. what about this mass deportation? basically, she said, i'm paraphrasing, he has a mandate to do it. he said he would do and people voted for it. >> i absolutely agree with aoc. it may turn out not to be true.
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three things come to mind. the mass deportation. using the military to put down domestic opposition . political opposition, not violent protest. i don't know any reason why he would say, at this point, i fully expect that to happen. >> and how do democrats deal with it? what do they do ? not that anybody knows, necessarily pick >> i know. everyone kept talking about the autopsy. they will probably be in a defensive posture and start thinking about the midterm elections, which sounds crazy to say. it's much easier to be against something than it is to sit down and figure out what you are for and how to communicate more effectively. i think it will be interesting to see who emerges from that bench . we heard abby talking about, in terms of who was the democrat who says what is the next step and what it looks like pick >> the thing is, this is it just a problem that popped up in the 2024 election. this has been a slow burn . the move and
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the shift among the democratic party . they feel they have a connection with. it started not necessarily with donald trump. you can even go back to the tea party, where there were people out there , maybe traditionally democratic voters, saying, this is not only am, this is not what i stand for and they were lowered into the republican party by the tea party, and of course, the trump era started and he really connected with them. this is a very deep-seated shift , and frankly, a problem that the democrats have that's going to take a lot longer than one cycle. >> some of these more extreme , the ones that we are talking about, mass deportation, we are not talking about the people
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that come up with the border. we are talking about people that lived in this country. and you said earlier, to be 15 million or 20 million people that you can uproot or take out. they have been living for years in these communities. talk about that, the mass deportation camps. there would be a firestorm in this country. a lot of people would support it. a lot of people would violently oppose it. using the military, the national guard to put down opposition. on the one hand, i believe it. but if he does follow through on it it's going to break a lot of eggs. >> is also what he will do when it comes to foreign policy. he's made that very clear as well. let's listen to that. >> that is a war that's dying to be settled. i will get it settled even when they become president. when i win, when a president-elect, and what i will do is i will speak to one, i will speak to the other, i will get to them . on day one
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of my new administration will seal the border, stop the invasion of people pouring through our border , and send joe biden's illegal aliens back home where they belong. >> the washington post's you are talking about 60% tariffs. >> i would say it's going to be more than that. >> these are pretty strong. some might say, severe, radical moves. ending the war in ukraine. there's only one way to end it the way he talks about it, that is for ukraine to give up its territory to russia, uv -- invading force. pull the funding, et cetera. and of course it's a more than 60% tariffs on chinese goods. these would have major-league life or death impacts. and also
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a financial impact on pick >> the stakes are currently high. i would say, the tariffs, it's going to be interesting to see how that actually clashes with the reality of who he puts it his cabinet. especially as he has leaned much closer to business relationships in terms of really following through. on the issue of ukraine, that is also a reflection of the republican party that has backed away greatly from interventionism. internationally, this is what he is known for. bilateral conversations. that's not what he does. his voters don't want it. >> thanks very much. let's continue the conversation in new york. do you expect mass deportations? >> i expect some deportations. i don't know what the numeric threshold to make it. i expect donald trump to execute on what he said. we do have a huge illegal immigration problem in this country. we have some of them have criminal records or have committed violent offenses. yeah, i expect him to be stronger on the border and
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-- i don't think we should fear doing it. all the pulling in this campaign showed that the majority of hispanic american supported as well. something needs to be done. >> i was going to say, i think everyone has said that if you do mass deportations it will actually hurt our economy. i understand the voters have spoken and we will see what donald trump has done. it's also about the fear that is waving through immigrant communities right now. i spoke to someone whose parents immigrated over 40 years ago. she's in her 40s today. she is what you would call, quote, unquote, and anchor baby. she text me today and said, were going to to get deported. this is the only country of known. the ceiling country . today many people woke up afraid for the security of their future when this is the only country that they have known and they have given so much to this
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country. and that is why so many on the left right now , one of the many reasons we are distraught. >> david, there were a lot of very conservative republicans that negotiated this bipartisan deal . 650 million more for border wall. more judges. obviously the former president put a kibosh on that. you think a larger comprehensive board deals possible? >> i was hoping it was for him. listen, i don't know if it's possible. comprehensive immigration reform is incredibly difficult. i worked on immigration reform in the bush administration. we start really crunching numbers. -- it is a great, nice, big concept. when you get down to brass tacks it's a very , very
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difficult to hone in on. i know they had a bill that they said they would agree on what it was even close pick >> in the obama's in street -- and mistress irritated. >> had a healthy, healthy majority. 67 or 60 votes in the united states senate. they would take the bill up. >> they did deportations early on. >> look, it was focused on people that committed crimes . as ashley points out, when you talk about the 10 million people who are here, many of them for many, many years , or sort of pillars of the community. by the way, paying taxes and social security but not getting it were not being entitled to it. the amount of disruption. i don't know how you execute it, first of all. anything on that scale. we'll see if he attempts it. if he
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attempts it it will be incredibly disruptive. but it's up sounds great in a campaign . he wanted to really hit the bell hard. now reality is here and we will see if he actually acts on it. >> some other things are being discussed. tariffs are in place. the biden administration had lifted the tariffs on china. they work. they are negotiating . ukraine, we talked about this during the break. what does success look like in ukraine? i don't know if president zelensky can answer that this president was to be a good steward of our taxpayer dollars. unless president zelensky can define what it looks like, how we expect to define what success looks like in ukraine. and should we continue to fund billions and billions of dollars, send it to ukraine, when they don't even know what it looks like? >> a couple of things, just on the tariffs. targeted tariffs
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are one thing. broad tariffs on everything that comes into the country from every country in the world is a completely different thing pick >> i'm not sure that what he's talking about pick >> that is what he's talking about. the pack and listen to the video. and then on the issue of ukraine , what are the terms of the negotiations and are you going to force, on ukraine, vladimir putin's terms? and if people are suspicious that my happen, maybe it has to do with the fact that trump, seven times since he has left the presidency, has been in touch with putin and he called the invasion genius in the first place. if i were ukraine i'd be very nervous about that. >> so what is the basis? what you think president trump would favor the russians? >> why do i think that? did you see the story this morning in the post? the russians were celebrating his election . >> easily bob woodward here. i know that he's talked to them, there's a conspiracy , he's
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being blackmailed pick >> i didn't say that. >> so what you think, at the end of the day, that he's not going to say, i want to support a democracy in europe , the ukrainians. we will take their stand and negotiate this out. i will stop the bloodshed and stop billions of dollars . >> he's been asked and he hasn't answered who he wants to win the war. >> defined winning. >> that ukraine could stand and that the russian invasion would be backtracked and they would gain territory. >> that's not going to happen. >> to david's point, are you going to be negotiating on behalf of vladimir putin when you go to ukraine? and you just said, how do you know? we just learned, he said covid tests to him during the height of the pandemic. there is a relationship there, we should acknowledge it. we can be skeptical of it.
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the ukraine president, the chinese president. welcome bacak to election in america ntinued. we talked about the world reacting. what has been standing out to you in terms of what we have seen over the last 24 hours? >> you can expect everyone is racing to congratulate trump. but in general, when you look at the surround, i would say europe is depressed . the gulf states, the rich gulf states in the middle east are related . china is anxious. india is happy, pleased . and russia is probably rejoicing. so it's a mixture of reactions because each one is trying to gauge what this means for them. but the broader question, i think everyone is asking themselves, is the united states going to be out for just itself ? or
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does trump see america as the leader of the free world? to see america as the force that creates a certain kind of international order? not simply every nation narrowly pursuing its own interests. the dictators doing well and they can, other countries doing well when they can. a world based on, you know, a certain degree of openness. freedom, liberty , rules. has been america's historical role since 1945. what they are trying to get a sense of is, are we in a new era completely? has the post 1945 american-led international system finally begun to see the twilight of its existence? >> trump suggested, during the campaign , to the arab and
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muslim voters it would end the war in gaza. he has also said that israel should, in his words, finish the job. he obviously has a closer relationship with benjamin netanyahu than joe biden did or perhaps a friendlier relationship. do you think netanyahu gets a blank check from trump? >> i think netanyahu gets a blank check from trump on things like gaza. helping trump particularly cares . he's not going to bring up the kinds of issues that joe biden was bringing up in terms of the level of damage , the buildings, and do you have to go after certain areas . are you providing in a few 10 -- humanitarian assistance? that is if you like trump's style. in fact, he had said several times, israel just has to finish the job. it's worth pointing out that half of israel disagrees with trump on that issue. there's a very
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clear , perhaps 50% of israel that wants a cease-fire . they are not happy with netanyahu and his prosecution of the war. be that as it may, there's a broader issue , which is israel has pursued off of the war in the north with hezbollah and iran. and i think there , the trump administration will be supported. and israel has reestablished a deterrence in the north against iran, against hezbollah , and showed them to be much weaker than they are. so i think that is a scenario where there actually may be continuity. the biden administration has been very comfortable with iran , i'm sorry, with israel taking the penalty iran, taking the battle to hezbollah, reestablishing deterrence. and i think the trump administration is likely
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to continue. >> trump has also said he would end the war in ukraine within 24 hours. you pair that with, you know, i don't know if it's admiration. he has expressed admiration for vladimir putin. what do you think that means for ukraine? >> again, i think it gets back to the issue that began the conversation. yes, there's a possibility for a deal in ukraine. the war cannot and should not go on forever. but does trump view this as being a kind of broker between two equal parties of equal value? he's just trying to cut a deal. he is sort of the real estate broker trying to make it happen. or does he see himself on the side of the free world? on the side of the role-based international order , trying to make sure that russia's complete and flagrant violation of those rules, it's naked aggression , is not rewarded. that doesn't mean that russia will not be able to hold on to some of the territory. there is a reality that you can't get around. perhaps and then means
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you have to provide ukraine with security guarantees , like nato membership. and maybe there's a deal to be had . if ukrainians can be convinced that they will be secure in the future from further russian aggression maybe they can accept that they've lost 18% of their territory to russia. but the core is, trump has to see himself as part of an effort to stabilize support and encourage the great liberal democracies, those countries, and in the west. those countries that want freedom, and not simply see it as a deal between two equal parties and he's just trying to be a broker who can post at the end of it all that he got a deal. i think one of your earlier guests said, there's a deal to be had, which you just accept the russian terms, forced the ukrainians to surrender, which i doubt that they would do.
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like mail them into accepting those terms . that's not peace. that's surrender. >> i appreciate your time today. thank you so much. we will dive deeper on the exit polls. still a lot to learn about exactly what happened over the last 48 hours , particularly among latino men. we will be looking at that.
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we are back in the cnn election center breaking down how donald trump pulled off his residential victory and is going to do with his renewed power. let's bring in david for another look at exit polling. david, you've been doing a deeper dive on the exit polls for latino voters. tell us about it. >> reporter:, latino voters overall in this election, jake, they make up 12% of the electorate. what you're seeing here, kamala harris wins 52% of latino voters to donald trump's 46%. a six point margin of victory with that group of voters. four years ago joe biden won latinos by 33 points. so a 27 point swing in terms of the margin towards
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trump. take a look at young latino men. 6% of the electorate, a small slate, donald trump's numbers at 55%. he was latino men, his number four years ago among latino men, 36%. he increased his share by 19 percentage points among latino men. latinos, female, 6% share. harris wins them, 60% to trumps 38%. and when you look at latino voters aged 18 to 29, young latino voters , very small slice. 3% of the electorate. harris wins them barely pick 49% to 47% . two points. joe biden won young latinos four years ago by 41 points , jake. >> fascinating stuff. thank you, david. joining the conversation now, carlos jimenez . congressman, thank you. congratulations on your reelection campaign. by doubled
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digits, it being george bush in 2004 margin. do you think it was specifically the economic message? >> a lot would have to do with the same issues that affect all americans. look, in my district hillary clinton won my district in 2016 by 16 points. joe biden lost it by five. that means president trump shifted that over 21 points. and yesterday he won by 20 points. we have been seeing a shift to the right. especially here in florida, of hispanic voters. because, i believe, the republican party and the message the republican party is more aligned with the values of hispanic voters than the democrat party. we have 70 people here also that were fleeing dictatorships couple
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socialism, et cetera. myself, i came from cuba when i was six, fleeing communism. you had a candidate that was to the left of bernie sanders, who was a self-proclaimed socialist. a lot of different factors. the same factors of the economy, was happening at the border, all of that. hispanic voters are going to be pretty much aligned. >> congressman, it's a dana bash. i hope you're doing well, congrats again. >> thank you. >> one of the things that donald trump has been talking about on the campaign trail is the economic policy. we heard a lot about tariffs but he's also talking about ending taxes on tips, ending tax on overtime at the end of his campaign. he talked about a tax credit for people who have to have childcare or at least care for their parents. how realistic do you think, getting these things through the congress, is going to be? >> we are talking about revenue
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loss for the federal government. but we are also talking about revenue increases. i know that he wants to tap into our natural resources. especially oil and gas and not only make us energy independent but also make us energy dominance around the world. i certainly think that's a good way to start funding these losses of revenue. we can't continue to increase our deficit. i'm interested to see what the final plan is all about and how we are going to balance our budget in the long run because we are piling on way too much debt for our children and grandchildren. it's a matter of national security when our interest payments on that debt is now exceeding our defense department expenditures. again, i want to see what his plan is all about. but he has plans to increase our revenue. i think that's something we should be doing. how to increase revenue. also, relations. we have to
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reduce the cost of regulation , which will also incentivize the economy. when you do that you get more revenue into the coffers and the ability to pay for some of these programs that he wants to initiate. >> the president, president-elect, has alleged to launch largest deportation and history . has talked about deporting millions of people in this country illegally. first well, do you support that? and if so, how would that be carried out without causing tremendous disruption in this country? >> look, we've got over 10 million illegal immigrants i have been allowed into this country in the last three or four years. i think that's a very, very disruptive to our economy and our country right now. look, we have to follow the law. number one, they have to have their due process. we have to hire additional hearing judges to give those folks
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their due process rights. those that have valid asylum claims will be able to stay in the country because that's what the law says. and those that don't will have to be deported back to their country of origin because that's what the law says. we to follow the law. so, look, as an immigrant , i'm an immigrant myself, if you have valid claim and you are able to stay , if you don't, you have to be deported. you just have to follow the law. that's what we need to do the first place. joe biden allowed parole on a mass scale and it should have never been allowed on a mass scale. it needs to be allowed on a case-by-case basis. in my estimation, this biden and harris and mr. broke the law allowing all these folks to come in on a mass basis. this was causing the chaos inside of our country. >> congressman cornish here. i want to ask you about something fundamental to the immigration conversation, which is that donald trump has talked about ending birthright citizenship in the future. you talked about
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coming here as a toddler. i know i did. is that something has a mandate to do now? >> i think the question was settled back in 1898 where there was birthright citizenship. that's something i'm prepared to support. it's been part of the american way for over a century . i don't think we need to touch it at this point. >> congressman, thanks so much. really appreciate it. congratulations once again on the victory eked out the barely winning with 29 percentage point gap. thanks so much. >> thank you. i will sweat it out. coming up next, the top takeaways on this monument election and how the country moves forward in the coming weeks. and the next four years. stay with us.
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this? where the democratic party is now. >> look, the democratic party can react in two ways. it can react with rage, with what happened, and i think there will be some of that because of how provocative trump has been and how destructive, in some ways. the real question is, why did the party fail to connect with so many working-class voters? what -- white, black and hispanic. there needs to be a real discussion within the democratic party about the way forward, about what went wrong. >> who has that discussion ? >> i think you will see it. first will, there's going to be a call among members of congress and the next day. i think that's where it's going to begin. you will see a lot of governors step up and start leading the discussion. ultimately, it's a candidate for national office who helps define the party and that comes
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through a primary process. some of this may be a litigated threat. but there is no doubt about it, you can't be the party of working people if working people don't feel they are connected to you. >> we need to have a conversation within our party . i want to give some respect the folks who just worked their tail off . not just in 170s, but they're working on the campaign for biden. a lot of the stuff transitioned over. it's hard to lose. right? so have a little compassion for folks. we are going to have all the answers about what went wrong today. and i think it's important not to rush to conclusions, to talk to people and have conversations. but i also think i agree the primary will help but we cannot wait until the primary. we have midterms coming up in two years. we need to be going into communities and battleground states where we will have contested senate races, house
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races and start having conversations in communities now and really building our state parties and community infrastructure so that we never find ourselves in this place again. >> the democratic party, you're right. it's hard to lose the. i think about the condition of the democratic party. it's been almost fully oriented around the -- trump for a decade. look at biden. his basic campaign promise, initially, was to rid the country of trump. and as he leaves office, trump , trumpism and the maga movement are still there. not only do you have a loss of election, you're dealing with a total failure of the project of the current president as he set out when he got elected in the first place. i think part of the answers that you are all seeking is more than just tactical. some of it is, what are we, who are we, what we stand for? i think
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both parties go through this after these kinds of losses. when you look at how biden is leaving, the very thing he vowed to rid us of his now the ascended particle movement in this country. it's got to be a pretty demoralizing thing. >> in a stronger position than ever. >> he's never been stronger, never been more popular and in a stronger political position. >> can i say one thing about that? one of the questions is, we talked last night about the mandate that he has. what does he think that mandate means? what is he going to do with that mandate? if you think that's a mandate for him to punish his enemies and to some of the things they talked about that i think really were endorsed by voters, they endorsed him because they thought he might make our lives better. and if he focuses on that he will be successful. if he indulges his instinct to punish people and to divide people i think it's going to go badly for him. and i think the democrats , it may
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temporarily solve the problem in 2026. >> the tough part is, when you win, they've got to deliver. prices have to come down. the wars have to end. immigration has to be fixed. they are big things that need to occur and people want to see those occur quickly. it will be interesting to see. i was just asking this question, who is going to merge in the democratic party is the voice ? is it going to be somebody conservative? who kind of takes the democratic party to may be more center-right? or where a lot of these working-class folks are. or is it going to be someone centerleft? >> or maybe there's a completely different paradigm that's very focused on the lives of people and not on some of the debates that we've had in the past. one good thing for your guy , all guys i guess, because he's going to be the president of the united states, for the second straight time he's going to be inheriting an economy that is actually improving and he will be able to take credit for. >> let's hope it keeps
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improving. let's hope it keeps improving. >> it might be debatable. i agree with you. for trump, it's delivering on the promises that people voted for. and for democrats, i think they have to make a decision about whether they are going to stand for things or whether they are just going to stand against trump. i think the harris strategy was just, we are not trump. and if that continues to be the beating heart of the party i think it's going to feel a little empty to people. what are you giving me other than you are not trump? there's more to governing the end not being trump. >> i don't think that it was all about, we are not trump. it's also, we have to do things, fundamental things that are ailing people in their lives. the cost of things, the cost of healthcare for seniors, the cost or the ability to get loans if you want to open up a small business. she had ideas that were very prescriptive. the problem is that there's 40
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years of history in which people in these communities feel as though the field has been tilted against them and you can't show up late . >> i think the one thing, i agree with, we have to build trust with people again. even people who supported kamala harris. a lot of times black letters feel like we show up for the democratic party there is a lot that is delivered for our benefit. i think, writ large, the voting block that did not support kamala harris, she inherited that distrust. i will just say to david, i think he has to deliver. but i think the way he delivers also matters. >> thanks, everybody. stay with cnn for continuing coverage of the historic election results and latest news. we will be right back.
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