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this will truly be the golden age of america, that is what we have. donald trump's second act. the president-elect prepares to return to washington, d.c. as the nation and the world prepare for another trump administration. this is not a time to throw up our hands. this is a time to roll up our sleeves. >> conceding, vice president kamala harris's historic presidential campaign ends. she says, the fight for democracy is that over. and later. hearing from the president, in just hours, we will get joe biden's first remarks about trump's return to power and his vp's defeat. 5:00 a.m. here on the east coast. a live look at 1600 pennsylvania avenue. the white

house, our changing hands in just a few short months. good morning, everyone. i am kasie hunt. it is wonderful to have you with us. donald trump will be returning to washington. the question becomes, who is coming with him? the president-elect determining who will take roles in his new administration. sources told cnn, some key positions could be announced in a matter of days here at one of the top tests for trump, loyalty. he is looking to reward allies who stood by him during his campaign, people like elon musk , robert f kennedy junior , president biden has also invited trump to the white house. that visit could take place as soon as next week. president biden will address the nation about the election later on this morning . his vice president, kamala harris conceding the race yesterday, vowing in her speech to supporters at howard

university to uphold the peaceful transfer of power, also vowing to continue pursuing her campaign's mission. >> while i concede this election , i do not concede the fight that fueled this campaign. >> joining us now to discuss, washington correspondent for spectrum news new york one, kevin fry. good morning to you. so, we sit here on the precipice of donald trump's return to washington . i want to start with what peter baker wrote for "the new york times ," he has of course, chronicled a number of administrations over the years. he says quote, no longer can the political establishment right off former president trump as a progress, a fluke that somehow snuck into the white house in a quirky electoral college win eight

years ago. with his comeback victory to reclaim the presidency, mr. trump has established himself as a transformational force, reshaping the united states in his own image. while tens of millions of voters still cast ballots against mr. trump, he once again tapped into a sense among many others that the country they knew was slipping away under siege as economically, culturally, and demographically. is that what we have seen with these results? >> far be it from me to take on mr. baker. the pushback here from immigrants, at least to some extent, is yes, it was not a good night for them. they would argue , this is a part of a trend we are seeing nationally, where political figures , regardless of political affiliation, or see the aftermath of inflation that the public is basically lashing out at anyone who is in an incumbent seat position, and quite frankly, kamala harris, whether she successfully or not, try to get away from the biden administration, was effectively the incumbent here. that is not discount the fact that people know what trump is . they experienced four years of him in the white house. to

some extent, one could argue they are passively endorsing another four years of what he brought to the job. >> right. so, one of the things we heard from mike johnson, the house speaker, he spoke to axial's yesterday basically making the issue-based argument, when you mention inflation, among other things, he says, this, should republicans hold the house, the current mike johnson said, it is because the gop is focused on kitchen table issues over emphasis on abortion. he says quote, the entire democratic campaign was run on abortion. they just ran abortion at 24/07 in major markets and i don't think that is what people were focused on. i didn't even think different cities and it was the same concern, the economy, the border, we kissed on the world stage, rising crime rates, i think that is what motivated voters. we have seen when abortion by itself is on the ballot, but understand to want to protect it. there were a couple of outliers in

the research from tuesday night. from tuesday night, that is what we saw. do you think his point about how this did not transfer to candidates bears out? >> a couple of points here one, i was on the trail with him on one of his last days , i would say that the issues kind of fall both ways, he made a comment about chips legislation in upstate new york that did not bode well for him and his party because everyone lashed out because of the investments it means for new york . i would say, when it comes to the issues themselves, i believe there has been studying that if you just look at the policies that both parties are presenting without the candidate attached, the policies tended to be favorable or so on the democratic side of the aisle. so, yes, to some extent when it comes to the issues that were resonating me be it immigration, the economy, certainly, republicans seem to have the upper hand in the polling and results . there is also the factor that trump is not always consistent on the message. so, that adds another

complicated factor to johnson's argument there. >> so, kevin you ever congress in washington from a new york perspective. we are still waiting for final results from the house of representatives. it does seem like republicans have the edge now. we know the senate will go republican. he checked the donald trump will have unified control are pretty high, what does that mean? >> hakeem jeffries and the democrats are still holding out hope they could maybe flip the house. certainly, the window seems to be closing on that opportunity with every passing day. the reliance in california, kenny may be held onto any of those teeth? but at the end of the day, as you just hinted at, we are now entering into a presidential term where the supreme court is essentially removing some of the guardrails here. congress is completely different than it was in 2017, in terms of the folks skeptical of trump are no longer in congress, largely on the republican side of the aisle. you have a lot of republicans who are going to be-- folks like mike lawlor,

may object to this notion, but more than willing to fall into line with whatever trump decides to pursue . there will simply be fewer guardrails in washington. a part of the way that the constitutional republic that we have operates is, the president kind of self regulate norms. we know that trump does not like to pursue them. >> self-regulation, what a concept. thank you for starting us off this morning. i had here on "cnn this morning," a majority of states with productive care on the ballot vote to uphold the ban on abortion. plus, or control on house still holding in the balance. what it could take another week before we know if republicans can pull off a trifecta. how world leaders are reacting to a second trump presidency. many things will certainly be different under a government led by donald trump. november 17th. venturing across the globe to see how

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welcome back. world leaders congratulating donald trump on winning the presidency a second time here at cnn reporting the president-elect's aides in florida are keeping track of who is reaching out and in what order . ukraine's president

volodymyr zelenskyy among the first to call on wednesday, congratulating trump on his quote, historic landslide victory and calling his campaign tremendous . in the uk, prime minister kier stormer called trump and publicly praised him before parliament on his decisive win. >> mr. speaker, cannot begin by congratulating president-elect trump on his historic election victory. as the closest of allies , the uk and u.s. will continue to work together to protect our shard values of freedom and democracy. >> cnn's max foster joins us live from london. i am interested on your assessment of all the noise going on behind him and what that was all about. tell us what the reaction has been in your world to donald trump winning? >> i think gustavo really thrilled that donald trump took his call at all. there is some

tension between the two and after the ruling labour party sent an activist to campaign for kamala harris. that was seen as pretty negative by the trump camp, a crucial relationship to the uk. very happy that donald trump took his call. it was a gushing message we heard from kier stormer, that politically, i think trump could see him as a far left extremist when you think to some of his views compared to donald trump, but uk needs the u.s. i think all the european leaders are pretty-- they were not shocked that donald trump won, but surprised at the scale of his mandate and are all scrambling really to figure out what this relationship will be in the future between european allies in the u.s., because he is an unpredictable character. he is big on personal relationships. there is a meeting today with european leaders and obviously, ukraine will be high on the agenda. i think it is pretty clear that donald trump sees a european problem. how they will sort that out, keep donald

trump funding the campaign, but also, how to coordinate between themselves more weird i have to say, the real issue emerging is a big problem for europe is the idea of tariffs on european goods going into the united states. it could cause huge amounts of damage to countries like the uk and germany, for example . now, the prospect of tariffs on chinese goods going into the u.s. also heavily taxed , and china dumping cheaper goods in the european market , a double whammy for which could do huge damage to the european economy. >> very interesting set of applications there. max , some of the reporting coming out of the u.s. here, this is "the wall street journal " questioning nato more broadly , one idea proposed inside trump's transition office,

deterred by people close to the president-elect, and not reported, would involve the promising not to join nato for at least 20 years. in exchange, the u.s. would continue to pump ukraine will of weapons to ensure a future attack. under that plan, a frontline would essentially like in place. both sides would agree to an 800 mile demilitarized zone , who would police that territory remains unclear what advisor said, the peacekeeping would not involve american troops or come from u.s. funded international body, like the united nations. what kind of reaction with there be to this kind of plan in europe? the motivation behind his work is that russia should not be allowed to get away with what it has gotten away with, which is taking ukrainian land. that sets a dangerous precedent . i think there will be an issue with an idea about any sort of negotiation of what russia is allowed to keep. also realism that ukraine would not be able to hold the current borders even if they don't get the u.s. funding. they will have to

sit down, the european leaders, and discuss whether or not this is doable. also, an awareness that donald trump would not want to be seen losing this war against president putin . clearly , they have to keep those american funds coming into ukraine , otherwise , more of ukraine would be taken over by russia . it is a big debate for them . i think, obviously, donald trump has all the control there. >> indeed, he does. max foster thanks for being with us this morning, i appreciate it. 16 minutes past the hour. here's her morning roundup. federal reserve expected to announce its latest round of interest rate cuts today. experts believe it will be safe around the corner of eighth percentage point. back in september, the fed cut rates for the first time since march 2020 by half a percentage point. seven states vowing to-- voting to protect abortion rights in arizona and missouri,

voters overturning abortion bands. other states preserved or expanded current access. voters in florida, nebraska, and south dakota rejected ballot measures to expanded abortion rights . the mountain fire spreading dangerously fast in california's ventura county , more than 14,000 people under evacuation orders high winds causing the flames to spread more than 10,000 acres in just 24 hours. >> look at you , your shirt is singed. >> i guess everybody left because the police tried to come up and make us leave . we want to be ready. our trucks are ready. that would be gone, so would the next one . >> right now, the fire is 0% contained. the winds fueling those claims expected to continue on the west coast today and in the southeast, millions of flood alert . what are folks looking

at today? >> incredible footage coming out of southern california . look at the wind gusts that were recorded yesterday from the santa ana wind event. this is equivalent to a category one hurricane for some of these locations in southern california. we get these high-pressure building across the high basin. because of the way that air flows around an area of high pressure, it flows through the canyons, over the remains of the mountains, that's what the coast, drying out and warming up as it does so, and the winds accelerates with that downsloping trend. of course, this is the area that has impacted the worst, santa ana winds over los angeles and ventura county. we will continue with kristy gusty winds today. still critical fire danger just north of the los angeles region gusts to 50 miles per hour. and then, with the ongoing fires , what you saw on your tv screens a few moments ago, there's plenty of smoke in you dating this area.

in fact, there is an air-quality alert that stretches across los angeles even to the south and east near san bernardino . this is the other main story we are following today, the flood threat across the southeast. we've had a considerable amount of rain across southeast georgia, and portions of south carolina , where it is still raining now south of columbia between charleston and columbia . some of the heaviest rainfall that fell into southeastern georgia prompted flash flood warnings overnight . you can see the additional rainfall that will continue to fall. this is what it has cumulative so far. with additional rainfall, this could lead to localized/letting, another one to three additional inches of rain remained. there always great to see you, thank you. still coming up on cnn this morning, mike harris says, the fight for her campaign promise isn't over, why wasn't it enough for voters this time

around? republicans have already flipped the white house and senate. will they pull off a clean sweep? our government comes into the white house, and we have the senate as well, i think everybody on my side will be in a much better mood and want to be a part of a agenda, not a speedbump in a way.

5:24 a.m. here on the east coast. a live look at raleigh north carolina on this thursday morning. good morning, everyone, to have you with us. democrats reflecting on donald trump's decisive win, wondering where they went wrong. kamala harris's short campaign might have started with a jolt of momentum, but she appeared hesitant to distance herself from her predecessor, while president biden struggled with low approval ratings. is not a thing that term comes to mind in terms of-- and i have been a part of most of the decisions that have had impact. >> cnn's exit polling includes interviews with thousands of voters . even though they are

not the final results, they paint a picture of what tipped the scales for voters. trump improved with almost every demographic compared to 2020, even among female voters who favored harris, she still underperformed compared to both joe biden and hillary clinton in past elections . as of yesterday afternoon, was only ahead of trump among women voters by eight points. trump also made significant inroads with latino men this election cycle . although, biden won this demographic by 23 points in 2020. they favored trump in this election by double digits . trump won every blue allstate, michigan, wisconsin, and pennsylvania , flipping them from biden's victory column in 2020. michigan congresswoman telling cnn that trump's win was not unexpected. >> the fact of the matter is that i continued to tell all of you for months that this state was tight, it was going to be close . as democrats, we've got to do some soul-searching .

we are getting a message from a lot of people that we are not hearing them . i hope that we take the time to do the soul-searching that we have to do. >> joining us now, senior contributor margaret tell us. good morning to you. you, this entire election cycle have spent so much time talking to voters, especially young voters , trying to understand what was going on in the country. considering the results now , did you see this coming in what those comments were about ? how are you looking at what we now know about the country? >> thanks. i talk to young voters a lot in my day job at a university, running a democracy and that it. for most of the year, between focus groups for axios and focus groups for my institutes, i talked to swing

voters, battleground voters, persuadable voters, people that have not made up their minds yet, and people in key states. what he we have heard again, and again, and again is inflation is the primary driver. if you are an american culture and late republican, it was the border and considered security concerns. if you leaned democratic , it was inflation, abortion rights, reproductive rights, maybe some of the democracy stuff. trying to separate the economy message from the reproductive rights message , and just focus on that second message left a lot of voters behind. i know vice president harris had a short span for a run, thought to tie the economy to the pitch for her at the end and that leaders all around the world in places like uk, japan, germany, like we know all of this already everyone who is an incumbent or seen as an incumbent has been impacted by the backlash to inflation and the post covid supply chain reality. so, she had an uphill battle against

her anyhow . but you see in all of this exit polling how, it was not just latino men who moved away from the democratic party it was the latino women as well. they may still prefer democrats by a little bit, but by not nearly as much as they have in past election cycles. you had young people, generation z, who we had thought of alongside millennials as being extremely progressive, moving towards former president, now president-elect trump, or just not voting for vice president harris. there were underlying concerns of people not being sure that democrats could get the economy back where they wanted it from a pocket since, but some of these cultural messages leaving a lot of men feeling left out of the democratic message. >> the axios headlight too, as the country starts to grapple with implications of everything you just laid out is this, quote, democrats started calling each other's eyes out. was meant tom, a moderate, told

you, quote, we have to stop pandering to the base and listening to people. people are sick of the extremism. the far left will say, it is because kamala harris was a war hawk. they will try it, but i think no one is buying it, set another house democrat. clearly, there will be some sort of reckoning here with the progressive left. >> reckoning is going to take several weeks, and several months, and two years of the election, we will find out. we all know how this works. the bottom line, when we look at exit poll data , and all of the polling and focus groups in the rearview mirror, you can see that the post covid economy and post covid inflationary experience was the core of the driver of discontent and concern about the future, and allowed all of these other elements to pile on. i think both things can be true at the same time, democrats do need to figure out how to recalibrate their message. because, in their quest to be a big tent

that has captured people who were marginalized, including women and people of color, there is a risk that focusing so much on all of these groups, they may have let others feel like they are not a part of that tent anymore. it is geographic , it is educational . it is people who did not go to college, versus people who have four year degrees . there are all of these splits that create a real plea where there is a big part of the country that does not feel that democrats' policies represent them, even though democrats' policies are supposed to be geared toward caring for people who don't have college degrees, who don't have other options other than getting themselves up by their bootstraps. >> this is what bernie sanders said, quote, it should come as no surprise that a democratic party that has abandoned working-class people would find that the working class has abandoned them. first, it was the white working class, now latino and black workers as

well. while the democratic leadership defends the status quo, the american people are angry and want change, and they are right. i have to say, i thought back to 2016 a few times on election night, at least because of trump, obviously, but because i spent a lot of time covering bernie sanders. he would pack these arenas with young people me but in places like michigan, a lot of union workers, a lot of these voters who basically would tell me what i asked, who else are you thinking about? you clearly love bernie sanders, but who else would you vote for? and they are like, i like trump. there clearly is something significant here . maybe there is an opening that shows there are democrats out there that could appeal to these people. it does not seem to be-- sanders's construction of the establishment versus not establishment, it is an old one for him me but it makes sense here. >> we see at the establishment

trance, literally going on for a couple of decades. antiestablishment trends, antitrust trends. a lot of times the most popular populist messages are the ones that would have different implications for the economy. whether it is harris promising to go after prices at the supermarket, for now, president-elect trump, who has promised tariffs and the applications of the terrorists, could be exactly what he went in on the coattails of that. like, if tariffs became inflationary, if tariffs became made goods expensive for americans, how would he thread that needle? i think when you are campaigning, populist messages are incredibly powerful, because it is what most people want to hear, things can be cheaper and better, it is a failure of leadership. the reality is, the global economy is much more complicated than that and translating a populist campaign message into a popular style government that is actually effective, and reaches your promises, no matter which party you are in, that is extremely

complicated. >> indy. thank you for being here this morning. really appreciate it. the world is bracing for what is expected to be a significant shift in foreign policy when now president-elect donald trump returns to the white house in january. this time around, trump is expected to insulate himself with loyalists, rather than surround himself with experienced limits. national security analyst, david sanger joins us now live with more. david, morning . i am so grateful to have you here. your latest piece in the "new york times" has the headline, "trump twins, a post-world war ii era of u.s. leadership ." tell us how you understand the change that we are about to see , not just here in america, but across the world. >> well, good morning . you know, in the midst of the biden administration, there was sort of a debate among europeans, japanese , south koreans about

whether or not president trump's first term was sort of a blip in american history , that after world war ii, the u.s. had been a diplomatic leader, the guarantor with a nuclear umbrella of for its allies , it had been the guarantor of economics , for free-trade , all of the issues that overtime eroded away , and of course, the trump presidency was the hypothesis of this . when biden came in, he said, we are back , don't worry about this. we had a four year diversion, but really, joe biden represented everything that was in that promise of the post-world war ii era . in fact, it was his era. he was born in the early 1940s , and

he came of age as a senator in the cold war, and admitted in the way that he organized the allies after the invasion of ukraine. now, with president trump coming back , you can no longer make that argument . in fact, if anything, biden looks like the blip, the sort of last gasp of this whole order . i think what is most striking to me about his return, even though i think he was elected for all the economic reasons you were just discussing with margaret, is that , most of our allies think, we are in a whole new world here , where you can't rely on the united states for security, that the terrorists you are just discussing, may actually take a part of the economic order of the united states had helped to build post-world war ii. >> speaking of that order, you write this of how donald trump

conceives of the world if only in this way. quote, the ancestral difference mr. trump embodies is this, presidents from harry truman to mr. biden have largely viewed america's allies as a force multiplier. mr. trump views those alliances as a burden, often declaring that he does not understand why the united states would defend nations with whom washington has a trade deficit. he reject the concept that europe was able worker for the soviet union, and later russia, or that japan was america's aircraft carrier in the pacific or that south korea is key to obtaining north korea. what does that mean for the world? >> there is this oddity when you talk to former president trump, president-elect trump , in which he flexed the trade surpluses that he sees japan, south korea , or around , that they are much smaller than they once were with a question that

we pay a lot of money for security. the fact of the matter is, they pay a lot of money to keep american troops there. even if they did not, having those troops placed around the world is sort of a forward edge of american defense , and pretty critical to the way the pentagon operates around the world. you can't just base everybody in the united states. and he still, after four years as president , he was this, as i wrote, as a burden , something we are doing as a favor for everyone else . and that is a fundamental difference of view . now, he was right , as president obama was right before him , that the allies had to step up and spend more, and in fact in europe now , i would say, roughly 20 of the 31 other allies in nato are now spending somewhere around 2% of

their gdp on defense . in my view, that is probably going to have to go to 4% or so, if you are going to mount effective defenses against russia that is clearly going to be an issue for a long time. i also mentioned in the piece, though, that the fundamental change since he left office four years ago is that russia and china have come together in this uneasy, but worrisome partnership . we have heard no discussion of that in the course of the campaign . >> it is really interesting and troubling point. david sanger , i am also grateful to have you. thank you for being on early with us this morning. >> great to be with you, casey. coming up on "cnn this morning," republicans hopeful that they pull up a clean sweep this cycle. what a republican controlled congress could mean for donald trump's second term. immigrants in despair

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essential , absolutely essential . and i think we had the best candidate everywhere yesterday. >> the white house and the senate flipping from blue to red . cnn reporting house republicans are feeling bullish about their prospects of also keeping control of the house under the lower chamber, still undecided. this election could be a clean sweep for the gop. senior gop beneficial telling cnn quote, we will hold the house and adding, the question is about what the size of the majority is right now. a different battle is brewing, will be the republicans' new senate leader kim?. senate leader mitch mcconnell announced, he would step down from his role in leadership come up with the race to replace him is still wide open. we have two candidates to replace mcconnell. senator rick scott also vying for the

position after winning his reelection yesterday. >> i think i will win because i am talking to my colleagues about what they want. here's what they want they want change here they want to be a part of the process. they want to be treated as equals. they want someone who has a relationship with trump . they want somebody who has a plan, someone who has a relationship with the house. >> senators will vote behind closed doors by secret ballot next week. joining us now to discuss, michael schnell of the hill. good to see you. let's start with this leadership fight . i do think it is interesting , i think the result could have been different had hemant harris won the election. what does trump's mean for this battle? >> the fact that he had a relationship with trump, always the question of, how much will trump influenced this senate republican leader debate, whether he was in office or out of office . now, it is a key factor because he will be in

the white house next year. this will be a partner, whatever doesn't republican leader is, will be a partner of donald trump. we know that john boehner has his past problems with trump, although he has tried to clean that up. rick scott playing up his close relationship with trump. all three of these candidates will be trying to show their closeness to the president, now that he will be a key partner here the key thing is here, casey, it is obviously a secret ballot , so folks can be in public, but what they say behind: doors, you will not know who will vote for who. absolutely, the trump factor here, if he decides to endorse a candidate and weigh-in, it could mentally affect the race. >> who do you think has the edge? >> folks have been saying that johnstone is best suited. he's got a lot of support within the conference. he is currently in republican leadership, which could help him get a leg up. but this could throw everything on its head. >> i want to show you one of the things that could be a big question here if republicans do end up taking the house, likely aberrant a very narrow

majority. it raises the question, they will not have six republican senators to work with me do they want to get rid of the filibuster? congressman jim hines, a democrat, that was on air yesterday, watch what he had to say. >> i don't have much doubt donald trump will make a phone call on day one and say, you guys get rid of the filibuster. of course, it is open field running for the republican party . from my standpoint, if donald trump is to be believed about what he says he will do with tariffs, national security, so many other things, that is a scary thought. >> is this a real conversation going on on the hill right now? >> interestingly enough, you just showed a clip of mitch mcconnell obviously the outgoing republican leader now,

something he said at the press conference was, the filibuster is safe and will stay intact, something he wants to happen. he will obviously not be in that position of leadership next year. we will have to see what happens with that. besides from the 60 vote filibuster, some things we will hear a lot about if republicans do take the house, something you know well, budget reconciliation, this sexy process lawmakers on capitol hill like to use when they have full control . essentially, it means specific policy undertakings, republicans in the senate will be able to bypass that 60 vote threshold. expect to hear a lot about that in terms of whether the buster gets to certain issues, we will have to see what they can do under budget consent reconciliation to bypass that boat. >> hit me hard to understand. lots of jargon. blockage of medicaid, a freeze we will hear a lot about. it is actually really important. glad you pointed it out. appreciate it. for immigrants, it has been just over 24 hours of handwringing, soul-searching second guessing , and no small amount of figure pointing. kamala harris, senior advisor david fluff raised eyebrows with this post on x, praising his campaign staff while

writing quote, we dug of a deep hole , but not enough. several democrats viewing that as an unmistakable swipe at president biden, launching the blame game into full swing. some allies are upset with eric obama nancy pelosi for squeezing the president out of the race in both 2016 , and here in 24 respectively. many harris insiders believing that biden's deep unpopularity, and his use of the word garbage to describe trump supporters in the run-up to the election presented a hill too steep for her to climb. our next guest recently reporting about biden's garbage quote, some unaware of the crisis inside the white house, standing outside the building with limited phone service and no wi-fi. when they learned, they were exasperated. biden wanted to clean it up and the white house proposed the campaign oppose the comment on x. the next morning, here is distance it herself from the quote.

tyler good morning . nice to see you. so, what are you hearing about how democrats are reacting to this? i have heard a range of sources talk about it . some of them do blame president biden . >> absolutely. i think there is a lot of blame to go around across the democratic party . we saw some of this reckoning after 2016 , and we are in store for a lot of it in the coming weeks. a lot of people looking backwards trying to figure out what went wrong i'm also trying to look forward, what is the path and will be the leader of the democratic party? i think one of the differences here, there is not like a barack obama figure who is going to be able to help the party cope, and figure out what the path forward should be. joe biden will not be able to play that same role. there's a lot of questions of, will lead the democratic party. to your point, there is a lot of blame to go around, not focused on joe biden, not just his

decision to run or step aside, but his initial decision after the midterms of 23 two to run in the first place. a lot of conversation around the 2020 election, when biden repented and suggested he would be a transitional president, some people even assuming that meant, he would only run one term. he never said that publicly, but that decision before the 2022 midterms and after democratic success is under a lot of scrutiny right now. >> does president biden have any regrets about that? >> my sense from talking to sources at the white house, close to the president, he has no regrets about that decision . he may have regrets about his decision to withdraw from the race. some longtime biden allies who viewed this as, he was pushed out again come as you said at the top your, and he could have been a more formidable challenger to trump, that argument that he often made his allies, he was the one that beat him in 2020 and the only one capable of beating him

again in 2024, obviously, we will never be able to know for sure. >> how do they answer questions when you point to the fact that harrison's polling was much closer than biden 's was, and she still lost the marks >> one of the things they like to talk about is to not believe the polls. i don't know if that is the right way to approach this. that is a deep, and embodying relief among biden's deepest, loyal , longtime staffers. they say, look, we lost iowa in the primary and came back to win the nomination and defeat trump. obviously, that is not the view of the vast majority of the democratic party. they wanted to move on from the president, and many of the party leaders , as we discussed a lot on this show , and across the news on the summer, it was not just a handful of lawmakers, but party leaders , and party loyalists. >> tyler , what is your sense of -- you mentioned that biden

is not in a position to lead the democratic party going forward . you get a sense of who might rise from the ashes of this ? >> i think one of the first things , and this is a very narrow conversation in washington . there will already be conversation about who will be the next party chair to run the democratic national committee. jamie harris and the current chair is not expected to stay in that role. there will be an election sometime next year. already, democrats are starting to jockey for that role . i think one of the things we will start to see his democratic governors step up to try to fill in that void and leadership. democrats have had a lot of success in state capitals around the country. i think they will try to step up and voices outside of washington need to lead. i think you can see some of those blue wall governors, josh shapiro, wes moore in maryland, gavin newsom in california. obviously, senators that ran for president in 2020 we can

see take up that mantle of leadership . it is an open question we are already seeing divides play out in the democratic party over some of the more liberal lawmakers, bernie sanders with a scathing statement about the parties campaign apparatus and focus on the working class, or is it some of the more moderate members of the democratic party that tried to usher the party more towards the center ? i was talking to someone yesterday . i said, one of the things we need to figure out, are we the party of aoc, joe manchin, josh shapiro, gavin newsom? very different views on the future of the party. i think we will see a lot of internal family debate about what that looks like and ultimately, what the voters want to decide about was the right person to lead this party. >> tyler pager, thank you for coming in this morning. still to come on "cnn this morning," a get out of jail free card. we will take a look and see where trump's legal

problems stand now that he is president. joe biden vows to uphold the tradition of the peaceful transfer of power. at age 78, trump has also become the oldest man ever elected president , breaking a record set by president biden in 2020. it is nice, biden will pass the torch and his life alert necklace.

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