>> the harris campaign was unable to expose basic economic truth . that is deficits, which have been bad under the biden administration, under trump administration versus the harris economic plan, deficits will be triple. it is great for you and me because we own homes and stocks. the stimulus of the deficit spending will take the value of our stocks and real estate up. but our kids will have to pay that back at some point. they are facing inflation, and possible mortgage rates of 15 to 20%. all they do is take the credit card abuse, run it so we can have champagne and cocaine in the club. deficits are nothing but delay taxes on the young. the harris campaign was not able to square that circle for young people. the largest tax increase in history is about to happen. vis-à-vis massive increase in deficits from donald trump.

>> i know you were speaking metaphorically about the club stuff. scott galloway, appreciate your time, thank you. >> thanks, anderson, good to see you. >> the news continues on cnn. >> not holding back, democrats look for someone to blame. trump names his chief of staff. new results with crucial races. still waiting to decide who controls the house of representatives. it is crucial and the democrats are not giving up yet . putin laying it on thick. biden promises to rush aid to ukraine. before trump is in the white house. >> i have to reevaluate, i am sure i will come up with something to make me feel good again. right now, today, it is,

it is hard. i will be honest with you. the hardest thing is, outlook across this country and is, it is depressing. i am in a very, very dark tunnel right now. can democrats find a way out of that dark tunnel? tonight, illinois governor says he is preparing for battle. >> to anyone that tends to come and takeaway the freedom and dignity of illinoisans i will remind you a happy warrior is still a warrior. you come for my people, you come through me. >> california governor newsom calling the state legislature back to the capitol for a special session, the reason he says, the freedoms we hold dear in california are under attack and we will not sit idle. the

blame game is just starting. just barely, barely here in the first inning. some are taking on trump as you can see, others? >> we went wrong again by not having a competitive open primary. that the president of the united states would of promoted. suppressed it. >> well, former presidential candidate saying joe biden left us all out to dry and the democratic party protected him and enabled him until it is too late. he ignored the attacks. he did urge democrats to not stop fighting. >> the american experiment endures. we are going to be okay. we need to stay engaged. we need to keep going. and above all we need to keep the faith. >> harris senior advisory tweeting before he deleted his

entire x account, we dugout of a deep hole but not enough, a devastating loss. he signaled to democrats they were going to win hours before the polls opened. >> we have a credible pathway to all seven states tomorrow night to go into harris column. we believe they will all be close. >> you think you can win all 7? >> yes. >> looking back on that, i hear the pregnancy in that pause. you heard the answer. all of this happening as there is breaking news from inside trump headquarters now. we are out live in west palm beach what just happened? >> reporter: former president or now president-elect has named susie wiles his campaign chair chief of staff to the white house. a critical position and sets the tone for the entire administration. i want to talk about her. not much that is known about her. a

florida political operative, she has been down here for some time. she served as trump's defacto chief of staff after his first term. she served as a top advisor to ron desantis and widely thought that part of the reason she came back to donald trump was to seek some sort of revenge on ron desantis after a falling out. she worked for trump in 2020 in florida and let go from that campaign. all of that, though, water under the bridge. she led a successful campaign. i am told that trump has been praising her, praising the campaign, the work that they did leading up to this moment saying she is credited with the fact he was elected to office. one thing keep in mind. we know she told trump she was interested in the job but had reservation, she did not want the clown car to get to the white house at any

time. something that trump agreed with her on. the reason it is significant is marks a turn from the first administration. not naming names who is considered the clown car. one of the things wiles did is manage the chaos. she did not know how to control trump, she would not try to control trump. what she could do is control everything around the former president. it is clear from these remarks she believed that she could do that in a white house as well. meaning, some of the more controversial figures, out landish figures, the people who are lighting up twitter, calling people names all of the time, who could be a distraction for the former president. she is essentially saying they are going to have to go through her. the same people that went through her for the campaign and donald trump agreeing with those terms. clearly worked out for him in the end. naming her the first chief of staff, first female chief of staff in american history. >> well, i guess that is one record set for women in the

past 48 hours that was not on a lot of people's bingo cards. all right, everyone is here with me. can i start with you? i know you just spoke to nancy pelosi for your podcast breaking her silence. she was instrumental to push biden to step aside. let's be clear about that. what is she saying now? >> well, without giving too much away she talked about the fact that this was a heart-breaking loss. she used that word. she also said that she has spoke tone the vice president and that it was a very emotional conversation. that they are friends. and that conversation was difficult for both of them. we had a very wide-ranging and lengthy conversation about what happened, how she sees the path forward. and, what her own plans are. and that will come

out soon. you know, it is, honestly, a very, very difficult moment for the former speaker of the house nancy pelosi. >> absolutely. van, so, nancy pelosi using the word heartbreaking in the conversation. carville talking about a dark tunnel. blame starting. there needs to be discussions among democrats >> look, we spent $1 billion and elected trump. that is not a blame game that is called accountability. the people at the top of the campaign, the party, have a lot of people pissed off. people with suggestions and why are we not doing this it was a we got it, we got it, we have a special magical computer, we tested every ad and shut up and let us get to work. then we got clobbered so people are mad. they should be mad. the people at the top will have to listen.

there is a grass roots rebellion happening in this party and it is coming to knock on the door in people, that is not blame game that is accountability. >> i know $1 billion. >> yes. and technically they blew some of that in the recent weeks and now they are in debt a little bit. they did door knocking, traditional ads. you heard it, they were not listening to other ideas that people like maybe van had. >> for incidence. >> this should be accountability and joe biden should not have run for a second term. should have been a competitive primary in january and not in july and by the way, newsom, they should of challenged him in january. we all know they had campaigns in waiting. but, instead, everyone said joe will be fine, he will be fine. a disastrous debate and drops out in july and everything is under the gun and in hurry up mode. the party

lost a crucial period they could of introduced the next generation of leaders to the american people, vetted and chosen a ticket that could of taken the fight to donald trump. instead of joe biden fumbling the ball to kamala harris down the stretch. >> and to this whole conversation, is there any sense from people you are talking to of what role they think it played? that there was a perception certainly among some voters that kamala harris had not been honest with voters about joe biden's true state. it kept coming up again and again. people are trying to figure out what happened. is that something you hear? >> reporter: i think one of the things that happened during this election is that when that disastrous debate with joe biden happened i think there was a break in trust with the democratic party and the elector at. there was a feeling

there was not honesty of the condition of the president and that people had been, perhaps, shielding him from the voters. if you think about the fact that he really had not been sitting down for interviews. not giving extended press conferences. i think there is a real, you know, there are still questions about what exactly happened there. and who knew what and when they knew it. >> right, that is the real question. i have done an interview with him, he was fine in that capacity. those around him might have a different view. you know, it all came down to, many, many things, right? but when you look at the actual votes it was not as if trump suddenly surged in so many things it is that democrats did worse. trump got an extra 280,000 votes this time versus last time. he improved. that is not the

story. look at the full screen. harris lost. that is what stands out there. >> seller said over and over again it is kamala harris or donald trump or the couch. they were always worried about the coach. people not feeling inspired enough. he was not worried that people were not going to vote for kamala harris or trump he was worried they would not vote. this is how we got built, they built a different media system, online, podcast, streaming platforms and they were spending their money there. we were laughing at them. knocking on doors in philadelphia and there are no trump people, not dropping literature or knocking on doors, laughing. >> like, elon musk, their pacs don't know what they are doing. >> we were making fun for trump having thrown away his ground game and doing weird stuff online. we thought they were

idiots. turned out we were the idiots. we woke up in the body bag. they were making this into 24-hour a day political weapon for themselves. we got out flanked, out played, out beat by people who told us the whole they they knew what they were doing. future forward, all of the different groups that vacuumed up all of the money and told everyone to sit down and shut up are going to be in for an accountability session and it is coming. >> i remember when we were speaking at one point earlier you were talking about all kinds of data available. that you were, people were going to be presenting to the campaign. i suppose you say that fell on deaf ears? >> yes. they were like we got it. >> we got it. >> they did not have it. one very obvious missed opportunity is that joe rogan biggest audience. low propensity men.

it was much more outside than coming else. kamala harris goes on tim walz goes on and millions of men, they turned it down because she was too busy? it made 0 sense but in the context that the team did not have confidence in her to do it. >> 48 million views for the rogan trump interview on youtube alone. >> three hour interview? >> yes. 48 million views. like, the -- they were laughing >> that is two thirds of the number of votes. >> yes >> that is more than the debate. >> yes. >> can i jump in here? >> yeah. yeah. i mean i am very happy that everyone is talking here about the information eco system it is important. so is joe rogan but there are two issues here, one is the message

and the other is the messager. there is a lot of messenger. there is a lot of things about the ground game and how you reach voters but, you know, voters told the democratic party over and over again that the main issues were pocketbooks, inflation and immigration. and that was what they told them. the closing message of the democratic party was democracy, and donald trump is a bad man. >> right. >> is there any way they could of won with kamala harris with immigration on the issue given she was part of the biden administration? that was never defined. >> two things, number one, if you were going to run kamala harris she needs permission to break from joe bidden and say whatever the -- joe biden and say whatever the administration did, i need to go this way. her

inability to do that. >> i don't know if it was winnable. 39 was the approval rate for joe biden, very low, and 75 is the wrong track measure that is very high. she had a tough hill to climb. i think that she did as well as you can possibly do. a bunch of people running that campaign that did not listen, who were arrogant, sucked up $1 billion and pissed off a lot of people and you will hear about it. >> a lot of people that said they were not going to donate another dollar and then opened up the flood gates and they did give the money january not july. joe biden, you know, i endorsed him in 2020. but he failed the george washington test in passing the torch in time to have a real primary. >> all right, all of you, thank you very much. i appreciate it, as always. i hope everyone will listen to nancy pelosi's interview with luli on your

podcast. next, breaking news, more house races called tonight as democrats hang on to a slim chance of flipping the house. trump saying he thinks he will be speaking with putin, the russian president heaping praise on him warning of a new world order. trump's return to power fueled in large part by hispanic voters, how come? . >> i think more democrats are pushing latinos.

iment breaking news. a key house win in new york. now, flipping a highly sought-after seat tonight. that could be a crucial win there. the balance of power in the house up for grabs at this hour. still, we can not call the house. democrats right now with 196 seats. they still need more seats. democrats need to hold 16 of the current seats out that we have not yet called and to flip six additional ones. let's go to harry at the magic wall. harry, you got the white house and you got the senate if you are republicans, everything now, for the democrats and their hopes comes down to the house. where does the map stand? >> do they have a shot? i think is is a longshot but it is possible -- it a longshot, but

it is possible, it is possible. we called projected out 210 for republicans, 196 for democrats. we will show you where they are ahead, you know, beyond just the extended seats in every person that was ahead went on to win. 222-213. how do they boost it by 5? take a look at the uncalled races at this point. i want to take you to arizona right now a seat where democrats hold the advantage. it gives you an idea these seats are uncalled for a reason. look at that margin. in arizona, angle up by, do the math, 70 votes. it is 70 votes. when i was preparing this segment earlier on today she was trailing, she was trailing. it flipped, it flipped the seats can still flip. where are seats that can flip? let's go out to the great state of california go west, young man, go west. we will go up to central california. we are going to go right here to the 13th district. why is it

important? right now what you see is the republican ahead by a little less than three points but look at the vote remaining or the only 48% of the vote is in. majority of the vote is out. it is a less than 3 point margin you can see the democrat overtaking. down further. a seat that we always look at. there are a ton of late votes, look at this. 52% of the vote has been counted there. another one. i will go to one last one. we will go all of the way up to alaska. right now, democratic incumbent is trailing but it is a seat in which there is a lot of vote by mail left and runoffs and instant runoff situation that goes on. bottom line is, there is still some seats where democrats can take control of the house. it is a longshot. >> a longshot. when you go through this you are giving examples there, as you look for the democratic quest, what other states are you focused the most on? >> if democrats don't take it

where am i going? pennsylvania. pennsylvania, pennsylvania, pennsylvania. there were just a bunch of seats where democrats underperformed. have not called the race yet, a lot of democrats are looking to knock off scott perry. he is ahead. how about we go up to northeast pennsylvania, right? going up to that area. what happened here? guess what, we called the seat. we called it. matthew cartright knocked off joe biden home district lost there. here is is another one. one seat you were going to look at to understand if the democrats were going to get control of the house it was going to be this one and the incumbent was knocked off. >> it is really incredible to see what has happened and how consistent it has opinion in so many different parts of the country. harry, thank you. i want to go to south carolina and the democratic congressman there clyburn.

congressman, so much to talk to you about. let me talk to you about what we were talking about. the odds slim for democrats, there is still a path. what do you think will happen? will democrats maintain control of the house? >> reporter: thank you very much for having me. i do think it is a narrow path. there is a thorny path. so, if i were venturing to guess i would say it will be one or two votes, one to three votes either way. it can go one up or be two down. so, we will just wait and see. >> obviously it will be close as i said. we are unable to call that here at all. there has been, i don't know if you were plugged in time, talk about what happened to democrats. how much blame biden deserves for not stepping aside until july what if democrats had a primary process and

voters able to choose from the deep bench of democrats that are out there? phillips your house colleague and few that challenged biden both spoken out about this. here they are. >> biden staying in so late we did not have any process. if we had some kind of an open process it would have, it would have been much better >> this entire election in my estimation was sealed the day joe biden announced was running for re-election. absolutely we should have had a competition, it makes everything better. congressman from where you sit now to what is happening in the past 48 hours do you think they are right? >> reporter: well, i made it clear to members of my caucus i will heed my advice. there is no need for us to engage in all of this about what ifs. we know

what has happened, we need to chill out for a few moments, make some assessments and then plan the way forward. we will know in the house if we will be operating from a minority or a majority or whatever position we must be loyal opposition to this president if he adheres to project 2025 that they are now admitting is the blueprint for this administration. if that is their blueprint, this house democratic caucus must have a vigorous opposition to it and alternatives in the place of it and get ready to take the house back in two years. that is where i am going to stay on that subject. >> so, as people try to

understand what happened, though, in part, not just the polls again appear to miss this. talking about winning sun belt states they were confident. the night before the campaign i had a conversation with david plouff. the polls opening hours after this conversation and i wanted to play this part for you. >> we are reviewing all of the early vote data and election day and how insiders are breaking. we have a credible pathway to all seven states tomorrow night to go in kamala harris column, we believe they will all be close. >> you think you can win all seven? >> yes. >> as i said, congressman, when i relisten to it i hear the pause before "yes." it was delivered with conviction, harris lost five swing states so far, trailing in the last two that cnn has not yet

called. i am just curious how you see it, campaign in a bubble? did they have bad data? you know, this was not just a little miss. it was a magnificent miss. it is everywhere. >> reporter: well, it was close everywhere. rather than winning seven in a close contest it looks like we may have lost all seven in a close contest. when you get into these things. i have studied politics all of my life and practiced it for the same amount of time. i can tell you, when you boil all of the facts and figures down it goes to emotions. it goes to people's feelings. i do believe that we lost these districts on people's feelings. people had a certain feeling about the ads that went out there. that we did not

respond to for whatever reason. and i think that effected their positions when they got to the polling place. so, what we got to do in my opinion is take stock of all of this. and, remember, facts and figures are secondary to people's feelings and their emotions. >> it is something that is important to remember. so many can forget easily. congressman i appreciate your time, thank you. >> reporter: thank you very much for having me. next, putin, vladimir putin is celebrating the win for trump calling it a completely new world order. what does that mean? we are out front, next. one effort convicted january 6th rioters putting trump on notice saying he better keep his promise to pardon them

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praising trump for his bravery during the assassination attempt. putin saying he behaved courageously like a real man. >> reporter: after launching a massive attack aimed at the heart of kyiv, russian leader putin praising president-elect trump. >> translator: i would like to take this opportunity to offer my congratulations on president of the united states he says. you are willing to talk to trump, the moderator asks? yes, we are ready, putin says. >> reporter: indeed trump is ready as well. the two men had a number of phone calls, up to seven since trump left office. trump reportedly gifting putin covid tests in the early days of the pandemic when those tests were scarce. and trump himself has praised has relations with the russian president, even siding with

putin over the u.s.'s own intelligence services after russia's interference in the 2016 presidential election. >> my people came to me, dan came to me and some others and said they think it is russia. i have president putin, he just said it is not russia. i will say this, i don't see any reason why it would be. >> as russia continues its full on invasion of ukraine, gaining ground especially on the eastern front, the president-elect still saying he would be able to end the war fast. >> they are dying. rrussians and ukrainians i want them to stop dying, i will have that done in 24-hours >> if we had a real president, a president that was respected by putin he would of never, he never would of invaded ukraine. >> reporter: the ukrainians fear trump might cut off military aid to ukraine all together forcing the country into a de-facto surrender and

loss of territory. >> every time zelenskyy comes to the united states he walks away with $100 billion. he is the greatest salesman on earth. but we are stuck in that war unless i am president. >> reporter: when pressed to answer if he even wants ukraine to win the war, trump simply will not say. >> i want the war to stop. i want to save lives. >> you know, erin, putin also say that if trump were to call him and say hey, let's meet up, he would not be averse to doing that. in general the russians are saying they are looking for countries to call them and re-establish relations. >> all right, thank you very much. i want to go now to host of gps. so fried, trump wins, putin comes out and hails a new world order. is it? >> reporter: well, what putin was talking about there was a completely new world order in

which american power is declining in which western power is declining and as he sees it russia and china and countries like iran are ascending. it is a very particular version of a new world order. i would find it difficult that any american president would sign on to that new world order. >> so, i guess in that contest fareed, how do you see the relationship between trump and putin? trump, even recently tauted his relationship, his friendship with vladimir putin? >> reporter: so, i think that trump often talks about it exactly as you say, erin and he talks about the war and how he wants to end it. it all sounds great and, of course, we would all like to see the war end. what i think is often missing in the way trump talks about it

is, putin has launched the most blatant act of aggression in europe since world war ii. he has attempted a kind of reconquest of an empire. of a kind that has not taken place in 70 years. he is trying to wipe ukraine off of the map. he engaged in the kind of aggression that the united states said after world war ii would not be legitta legit or standardized and every president since then maintained that standard. there has been no territory by conquest. so, the question is, does president-elect trump see that is the light at which to look at putin? yes, strong leader, i

would argue, adversary, but, he is not your pal, he is not somebody with whom you are just schmoozing. it is somebody who has done something that is about to destroy the international system. you have to solve the problem, stand up to him, it does not mean you can not make concessions to him. but that is the kind of brooder political context perhaps moral context in which you have to approach putin. >> we will see. that would, of course, be a shift for that to occur. president barack obama, former president barack obama spoke out. he said, fareed. america has been through a lot over the past few years, pandemic, price heights from pandemic to -- hikes from pandemic, people treading water. those conditions created headwinds and last night showed america is not immune. obviously you have seen this in far-right government that have

been elected across europe, germany, austria, france, you flame it. i remember having a meeting at the white house and they were pulling out all of the polls talking about biden showing the infinity that the public has across europe. all but one country for a strong plan autocratic-like leader s. it happening everywhere? >> reporter: yes, it is happening but not just a strong autocatic leader. it is just people are fed up and they feel, they feel like the world is in turmoil, inflation got out of control and so they punished incumbents. the best example, close in a sense to great britain. the conservative party went from the largest majority they had in 75 years to the smallest minority they had in 75 years in one

election. that seems almost impossible to imagine. in japan, the ruler of japan uninterruptedly since late 1940s has just lost. a lot of anti-incumbentcy. the democrats did not play it as well as they could have and trump played it well. >> you are being diplomatic. can i ask you to that point, fareed, do you think that this was inevitable? trump was going to win as an inevitable thing against any democrat? or do you think that the candidate specifically who it was, kamala harris or her position as being the vice president of the incumbent, do you think that drove it more? >> reporter: i think it is not kamala harris as a person or a candidate. i think being the vice president hurt. you are tied with being part of the

government and people are looking for change. it would have been easier for people to look for change if it was whomever. gavin newsom, whitmer. you could imagine many people. but, i will say there were decisions that were made that, you know, democrats made that they have to live with. not cracking down earlier on immigration. it was absolutely clear immigration system was collapsing. the asylum system was broken and you could see that around the world right wing populism was fed by immigration. there were lots of people. if i may point out, i myself kept pointing out you got to take a harder line on immigration. that is the number one issue that the public thinks is out of control. i think that played a large part. i also think that democrats have gotten trapped in a kind of identity politics bubble. not able to see categories outside of it. so, they were

not able to appeal to working class hispanics as anything other than hispanics. those people began to move towards trump because they are socially conservative. whatever it is. the identity politics trap has placed democrats in a strange position of, you know, reversing martin luther king's line. judging people by the color of their skin not the content of their character. >> all right, fareed. thank you very much. next, trump promised to pardon the convicted january 6th rioters, they are holding them to it. what they are telling cnn about mass deportations tonight. you are going to want to hear this

. tonight, the judge is denying sentencing to receive a pardon from trump. the future exercise of discretionary pardon power is irrelevant to the court's carrying out the judicial branch. dozens of defendants are using the same strategy. pointing to the

promise to pardon them. one saying he faces his trial next week, quote, trump needs to send a clear signal he will do this. i hope he keeps his promise. so, look. you looked at what trump said about pardoning the rioters. he was talking about rigged election and all he has done over the past four years he talked to them. he called them hostages do you think he will follow-through and pardon them? >> i think he is inclined. one said he is inclined. he said i will seriously consider it, a hedge, some of them got out of control. so, the idea is that maybe there would be some that committed acts of violence against law enforcement officers they would be last in line. so, there is a little bit of maneuverability on that >> some maneuverability on that. both of the cases are in front of the judges, wait, wait, trump may pardon us. here is why.

>> so many of these people are great patriots. >> the peaceful january 6th protesters. or as i often call them the hostages. they are hostages. >> the moment that we win we will rapidly review the cases of every political prisoner in unjustly victimized by the harris regime and i will signed their pardons on day one. >> you can imagine the visuals of that, that is what he does on day one >> it would be extraordinary and in ways be an insult to people who's entire role is to present to the president if there should be a pardon. that is just a norm. he is not bound by that. he will do whatever he wants >> winding down the cases mar-a-lago as well as january 6th cases that he fought to push it forward. so, what do you think he will do? get a big report or not? >> i don't necessarily think we get a big report. the

regulations for the special counsel talk about a report to the attorney general as to whether or not the special counsel is pursuing or declining to prosecute. that happened, that is before the environment. there might be nothing there that he needs to wrap up. i think he withdrawals the cases department of justice long standing position is the constitution prevents a prosecution of a sitting president. it is not going anywhere. no mueller report. >> no, i don't think there will be one. does not have to be. >> ryan, thank you very much. >> you are welcome. next, special report on why so many latino voters went for trump. and what democrats need to learn

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. tonight, trump has been talking about his record setting latino voters. they like borders, they like people coming in but they have to come in with love for the country. the numbers are staggering. 95% latino county. trump lost it in

2016 by 60 points, 60 points. tonight he is up by 16. 88% of the vote count is in. that is just truly hard to comprehend a move like that. ed spoke to latino and immigrant voters, he this story out in front. >> in 2016, this happened at a donald trump rally in arizona. >> look at that sign. latinos support trump. i love you. i love you. i love you! >> reporter: next thing, betty knew she was on stage with the future president. >> i love her. i have fallen in love. >> malania i have fallen in love with her. >> reporter: betty told us she felt a connection with trump on that stage when they looked into each other's eyes, betty and her husband own mexican

grill near tucson. they serve tacos in the popular maga burger. >> someone comes up to you and say you are a latino immigrant how can you support donald trump? >> i will tell him that the man love this country. >> he says trump speaks about the things he cares about, faith, family, the economy. >> i know he is not perfect. i know he is not like the pope. we believe in, you know, -- [indiscernible] family values and the democratic party is embracing all of the "woke" left-leaning ideas that it does not go with our values. >> i think there will be a lot of people who have a hard time hearing you say i like trump because of family values. >> i don't go by his lifestyle, i don't go by what he has done. >> reporter: do you think it is the democrats pushing latinos to trump or trump bringing in latinos? >> i think more democrats are

pushing latinos to trump. >> reporter: tony host of a radio show. losely translates to young geezers. [ laughter ] >> reporter: on the radio network that airs in five states. they take dozens of calls a day on a radio station founded by the labor organizers cesar chavez, they sentenced winning trump winning over latinos in the last few years. democrats do not impress people trump spoke well and stole their hearts. another caller said i fought with my oldest son, trump is better than kamala harris i can not accept that. >> are you seeing that it is generational divide? >> i see a lot of young people voting for trump. they are thinking about the economy. >> we need to do a better job of engaging our economy. >> she ran for congress and

spent months knocking on doors trying to turn out latino voters >> what they are hearing from trump is that there will be a better economy under his administration. >> reporter: the night after trump won re-election he told us about their path to becoming u.s. citizens. he was born inial salvador -- el salvador. many are liing and trying to take advantage of the crisis. >> if they let in hundreds of thousands of people with criminal records deporting them creates mass deportation i am for it. >> what if rounded up in all of that are people who work on a farm doing the jobs americans do not want to do. does that worry you? >> it would not be fair. of course they need to make sure they don't throw away, kick out, deport people who are family oriented. >> that is fascinating. so amazing to have an opportunity

to hear from him. i know you are in tucson tonight. you talked to him. trump is making gains of latino men. we saw it in the exit polls, turned out to be real. so, what do you think from talking to so many of them is driving -- i thought it was interested how much is it democrats pushing you away as trump pulling you towards us. he tuesday is more democrats pushing. >> reporter: yeah, he used to be a democrat, voted for clinton and voted for barack obama and eventually became a trump supporter. you know, the radio guys told us something, younger latino male voters are disengaged from politics and what they know about trump is that he is a celebrity business plan. don't really pay attention or remember the history of trump's first term. another thing that is important to point out, it is fascinating, many immigrant compls from countries where they have truly evil dangerous political leaders so, because of comin