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trump prepares for a second term will he be able to keep his most controversial campaign promises? and the blame game. as democrats point fingers, why it may not be who but what that's at fault for their big loss. and later, cold turkey. why some americans are giving up thanksgiving's main attraction for the side dishes. the panel is here and ready to go so sit back, relax and let's talk about it. up first donald trump's political come back is complete following a resounding show of support in this week's election. the focus now is what to look for in a second trump term. >> look what happened? is this crazy? >> donald trump the come back. >> i will govern by a simple

motto. promises made, promises kept. >> among those promises, carrying out mass deportations millions of immigrants in the country illegally. >> i will launch the largest deportation program in american history. > imposing high tariffs on imports. >> this country can become rich. >> and pardoning his supporters convicted for january 6thst. >> will you pardon them? >> absolutely. >> he is expected to weild the powers of the presidency alongside the republican party in congress. >> this will forever be remembered as the day that's american people regained control. >> already name checking potential advisers and cabinet picks like elon musk. >> great gentleman. >> and robert kennedy jr. as

the dust settles one thing is clear. >> this is a movement like nobody has ever seen before. >> here with me today, podcaster, and author cara swisher, the president of the manhattan institute and national review contributing editor. new york times journalist and the podcast host lulu navarro. welcome back everybody. >> don add trump made a lot of promises during the campaign. some of them main stream conservative and some pretty radical. what should we expect from the trump 2? >> i think that there will be a lot of change. you ain't seen nothing yet. everybody has thought that perhaps the front -- first trump administration was going to show the way for a second trump administration and i don't think that's true. i think they are better prepared,

better staffed and i think that some of the promises they have put forward are pretty radical. mass deportations. we will see if they can do it. costs a lot of money. there are a lot of people in this country. it hasn't been successful to do the kind of numbers they are talking about but they are talking about that. i saw mention on immigration of denaturalization and perhaps taking a away their citizenship. >> what do you expect on some of the more radical, some who say extreme proposals. do you think we will see mass deportations of millions of people who have been in the country for years? do you really think we will see blanket pardons of the january 6th rioters? >> both former president trump, president elect jump and j d vance said we will focus on

criminals and move beyond that as is necessary. if you look at the first trump administration he deported fewer people than president obama. so i think that what they have learn is the that you need to be really careful about how you go about doing that. when it comes so january 6th there is a difference between folks that engaged in violence and others who may have been treated in a way that president elect trump considers unfair and unreasonable. i think that it's not going to be a blanket pardon. that's any expectation. >> what do you expect generally from the second term? >> this was a center right majority. if you look at how trump differs his predecessors in the republican party what he did is he moved the party to the center on a range of issues. he was more central than i would like on a number of issues. i think that he recognizes that and he will be someone who will keep republicans in congress in check. he will make sure they are moving in a deliberate way

with public opinion. it's not necessarily going to be something that will be entirely successful there could be all sorts of blow ups. i do believe that he and his team recognize that this was a center right majority and he will try to governorern accordingly. >> trump made his first staff hire, susie wiles. he reportedly agreed to her one condition. the clown car can't come in to the white house meaning all of the trump hangers on. what can you tell us about susie wiles and will she be successful in keeping the clown car out of the white house? >> she is well respected and that is a sentiment that unnit es both maga republicans and establishment republicans. republicans of all stripes like her. i'm from florida. i have a lot of connections there. they say she is a tough cookie who knows how to get things

done. i think this suggests that trump 2.0 is going to be a much more professional and effective operation. if you are progressive you may initially think this is good, maybe the trump hanger ons won't come in. it also means will be more effective at getting things done including things that my progressive friends won't like. >> what is your single biggest either hope or worry about the trump presidency? >> my hope is that he will actually be able to use his disruptive approach to things to really shake up government agencies that haven't been delivering for years. it is true that the federal government doesn't function very well and that sense of disfunction is part of why people are constantly voting out the incumbent party, in a new party. if he can truly disrupt things and i don't just mean go fire a lot of people but really come in with a let's think about ways to do things differently that could be positive. >> do you have any hopes for

the trump presidency or only worries? >> sure. why not? one would assume. would would hope. we are hoping -- susie did calm me down. she seems quite competent. i may not agree with her but she seems competent and well respected. i'm worried that the lisa lumers will find their way into the white house. they did before. i'm also, you know, worried about his age. i think he can go off script all the time. he has the interest in those people that never wanes. i was -- elon musk being in the call with zelenskyy today? are you kidding me? it seemed insane to have him in the call. >> we are hearing a lot of talk about the -- this is going to be a more competent and measured administration than the first term. you buying it? >> no. i think the one thing

this is proven is that donald trump is at the center of the party and he is unchecked and his instincts are the instincts to disrupt, to be chaotic and i think that ultimately we will see how long susie wiles lasts. everybody started -- yeah, yeah, if you think about the first trump administration he had all his generals around him. they were all super well respected. they were people who, you know, everybody same thing as -- as, you know people liked them and they didn't last very long. he likes it get rid of people. he likes the chaos. we will see if susie will last and we will see how it goes. >> and then the two unexpected key players in the trump administration. elon musk who trump said will recommend ways to cut and reorganize the government and rfk jr. who will have a broad mandate on health.

>> clearing out the corruption in your terms. would that mean clearing out the top level federal service worker that are at the fda and the cdc? ? >> in some categories. in some areas the entire department is like the nutrition department at the fda. that has to go. >> how big a role do you think elon musk and rfk jr. will play and for how long? >> i think they will drop rfk off as soon as possible. i think that's probably a smart thing for them to do. they have gotten what they wanted from him and will move him off. >> i don't know. you keep hearing the president elect say he is going to. >> i feel like there's others who understand the issues and they are talking to him. with elon it'll be interesting to see what happens. i think they will clash. they are to much alike as people. i think that -- i have talked to a number of republicans who spent time with him recently and all of them are like you were right about

his personality. once a get a taste of that in the extreme i think trump and he will clash. >> for democrats, it's time to look in the mirror and ask after losing the popular vote for the first time in 20 years, what does the party do to win back voters in. and the world is watching. we will break down the impact trump's win could have on the wars in ukraine and the middle east. and later shame on you. the new and embarrassing way to stop line cutting passengers at airports. you are a line cutter. >> no. >> what? >> you are. you are a line cutter.

would have, could have, should have, in the wake of their crushing defeat, democrats are playing the blame game, trying to figure out what and who are responsible for election night. more importantly, what they need to do differently to regain power. >> this is not a time to throw up our hands. this is a time to roll up our sleeves. >> kamala harris conceding defeat from the same podium where the night before she planned to make her victory speech. >> i am so proud of the race we ran and the way we ran it. >> how democrats ran their campaigns is what many in the party are now focused on. some blaming president biden for

deciding to run and not dropping out soon enough. >> i'm staying in the race. i'll beat donald trump. >> one harris aide saying joe biden is the reason kamala harris loss. othersblame harris for choosing a progressive running mate instead of a moderate. >> i'm not sure how much tim walz contributed. >> some point to the party's politically correct messaging which they say turned off traditional democratic voters. >> stop with the virtue signaling speak to people like they are normal. we need to be the party of common sense again. >> preston, who is to blame for the democratic debacle? >> i think a fair amount of blame falls on joe biden. first, the staying in the race only until the point where you had that complete dumpster fire of a debate and then still dragging it out for a few

weeks. i mean kamala harris was dealt a very tough hand to play because of joe biden's decision. i also think that as a president, this was a year where voters just didn't want anything to do with anything that joe biden's administration had done. voters put him in office four years ago because they said we want the adults back in charge and they don't feel like it was delivered on and harris was in a tough spot. could she turn the page in i criticized her that she didn't break as much as they should have but a lot of blame falls at biden. > lulu. >> i interviewed speaker nancy pelosi and what was fascinating was she was stunned by the turn of events. i don't think she expected it. she was cagy because she is but she said that she did feel that kamala

harris -- there should have been an open primary. when biden stepped down there should have been a process that actually put people against each other, tested them, allowed them, the best. >> in the months between then and the convention? >> she said that once joe biden stepped down and immediately endorsed harris, there was no -- there was no other way to deal with this. >> i want to do a thought test. suppose biden drops out after a good showing in the 2022 midterms so in december, january of 23 and throws the race for the democratic nomination open for the regular full primary process. could any democrat have beaten trump this cycle? >> i don't think so. there's a lot of hand wringing. there's a lot of soul searching in the democratic party and i think that is good.

i also think that you have an anti incumbent global movement at the moment where parties who over saw inflation, and immigration surges off the back of covid have been booted out and i'm afraid to say in this case america is not different. this is the hand they were dealt. >> i want to pick up on that point. i know you have talked about that. this wave of anti incumbent feeling. there are a lot of presidents, people in office and the case of harris, the surrogate for the president, part of the administration who have been kicked out because of post pandemic inflation and disruption. could any democrat have overcome that? >> absolutely. i believe a different candidate could have done t the key failure of both biden and harris was that they couldn't say no to the left flank of their party. the formula for successful

democratic presidential candidate is really straight forward. you demonstrate that i'm not with the radicals or the extreme fringe. i'm with you, that ordinary, down the line, middle of the road voter. those are the voters. indictment didn't harris do that? >> she didn't. she couldn't explain why she reversed her positions. if you look at the number of times she couldn't explain -- she couldn't answer the question of how she was going to vote on a california ballot initiative that was backed by over 70% of california voters that was rolling back some soft on crime policies. she was unable to say that -- the democratic party went to far. >> she was in a position where she wouldn't go against biden either because she would have been accused of being in a betrayer. she is risk avers. i have said this. if you want to win you have to win into risk. >> the point is that the entire administration went to far to

the left and should have gone more center. >> open primary would have been better and biden leaving earlier right after 2020 would have been fantastic. i think they could have come up with something like shapiro. >> you are seeing fight play out right now in the democratic party with the progressive left and you have the main stream democrats. they are having it out right now with this very discussion because on the left you have bernie sanders saying the problem the democrats have is. >> who did worse than harris. >> who did worse than harris. >> nancy pelosi pointed that out. it's no longer the party of the working class. we have left -- we are no longer -- it wasn't -- it wasn't on sanders. >> it's the can do democrat. it's the can do democrat like josh shapiro. he did things and the idea of doing things for your people is very attractive no matter what side you are on. >> i want to put up some numbers that show how serious this slip was among key parts

of the democratic coalition. among black men, hillary clinton beat trump by 69 points in 2016. harris's margin was still strong, 56 points but down from clinton. it's even more dramatic among latino men. clinton won by 31 points in 2016. harris lost latino men to trump by 12 points. how did democrats win back -- not only those groups but just a majority of american voters? >> i think what i'm doing for you in a very clear message. i'm not bold into any group right or left and i'm here to help you. then showing help on the ground. >> ru talking about men in that poll and i think it's very clear. they didn't loose black women. white women still. >> most majority of americans. >> you just pointed to a lot of different groups. i'm just responding to. >> what do they need to do to

win? >> the whole -- i think the whole -- issue here is that you can't speak to all america. i think what trump did extremely well was that he targeted specific groups. >> i think that's wrong. >> i think he didn't target specific groups. >> i would believe it more if he didn't also do better with women than he did four years ago. if you look at a map what went right and left. i would believe okay, trump had a targeted message if you had him running up numbers in rural areas but he did better in urban arealess. >> what should the democrats do now? >> wait for republicans to over reach. here is the deal. this is -- the next election will be a midterm. midterms tend to favor the party that is not in power. democrats are already just going to have to sit back and watch as republicans troy republicans try to govern. trump will have to figure out

the tax bill that has to be reuped, all the policies if you put in tariffs. >> and one things that new presidents of either party always do is over read their mandate and over reach. donald trump's re-election will have a huge impact on friends and foes around the world. who should be more concern. and going big. really big. the huge tvs coming to a living room near you.

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world leaders were quick to say congratulations to donald trump with some of the first messages from those with the most at stake. benjamin netanyahu tweeting this is a huge victory and president zelenskyy praising trump's peace through strength approach. the wars in ukraine and the middle east will certainly top trump's foreign pomp policy agenda and he has already signaled his views. >> i want to see the middle east get back to peace. a before i arrive i will have the disasterrous war between russia and ukraine settled. it'll

take me no longer than one day. >> trump hasn't laid out a plan to end the war in one day but he and vice president elect vance have brought up stopping united states aide to ukraine and giving up ukrainian territory as part of a settlement which zelenskyy this week rejected. >> it's up to ukraine to decide what should and should not be on the agenda for ending this war. >> let's discuss what to expect from trump on foreign policy. what does trump's win mean for the war in ukraine? >> if you take vance and trump at their word it means they will try to pressure ukraine to cede territory and basically give russia a win. that has been the fear of europe. the american allies in europe and that was the fear of the democratic establishment here. you know we will have to see. i

mean at the moment the biden administration is trying to rush as much aide and military equipment as they can and it also remains to be seen what europe does to help ukraine but, you know, at the end of the day the united states has been a huge supporter of ukraine in this fight and if that gets -- if that plug gets pulled it is only a matter of time. >> here is a slightly different version of the package that the trump camp is reportedly discussing. the west continues to arm ukraine to deter russian attack, they promise not to join nat or for 20 years and russia and ukraine agree to a demilitary ized zone at the current frontlines. do you think trump can pull that off and especially can he pull it off in the one day as he promised? >> i don't think he can pull it off in one day. i do think that it is possible because he will hold a lot of cards. ukraine is in a very tough spot without the united states

helping them they are continuing to face huge losses on their frontlines. i do think that if trump says it's my way or the highway they will be in a tough spot and will have to take a deal like that. >> a switch. what does trump's victory mean for the wars in the middle east? >> this is going to represent a real break. if you look at the trump administration's first term they pursued maximum pressure against iran. that's one reason why the iranian government was determined to see him defeated or dead and he -- knows that. he will put a ton of pressure strategy wise and economically. if you look at israel and saudi arabia they are heartened by the fact the trump administration will be back and i think that it'll be a very, very different picture. no more accommodation. it'll be pressure, pressure, pressure on iran and it's proxies. >> in the campaign trump

praised benjamin netanyahu for resisting calls from president biden for a cease fire. take a look. >> b ib i didn't listen to him and they are in a much stronger position now. nobody has seen anything like this happen. >> do you think that trump is basically going to give israel a green light to do whatever they want in gaza and south lebanon? >> probably. that's what he said. i assume that and he likes some of the victories they -- which have been significant in terms of killing off terrorists that deserve to be dead. i think if they get really brutal and continue to kill civilians that will be a visual problem and it's the same one you have in this country if they deportations in the steven miller style. they have to be careful. >> i do. i think -- one of the

things that may happen is that netanyahu has suggested he would end the war before trump comes in to power as a sort of gift to him if you will. any way that's killing stops would be good. what remains to be seen is what happens after the killing stops. what happens to palestinians in gaza? what actually happens to the territory in southern lebanon? you know these have been the questions that have animated a lot of these discussions and the fact is that -- donald trump has little sympathy for the palestinians and their cause and so it'll not bode well for them. >> let's stake a look at the bigger picture. here is what president elect trump said about nato during the campaign. >> one of the presidents of a big country stood up and said sir, if we don't pay and we are attacked by russia, will

you protect us? i said you didn't pay, you are late, he said yes, let's say that happened. no, i wouldn't protect you. i would encourage them to do whatever the hell they want. have you to pay. >> what big picture do you think his victory means for united states relations with our friends and enemies? >> i think our friend wills be less our friends and the people we think of as our adversaries will be closer to us. i think of the victor o rbans. the strong men. >> the head of hungry. >> and others. >> turkey. >> turkey. you know so i think there will he be a realignment. i think we have seen a real fear and they are -- getting -- they are very focused on how they are going to protect themselves in a world where they didn't depend on the united states. >> the german economy dwarfs

the russian economy. what trump argued biden continued with is that the alllies need to step up and many europeans in many governments who are saying is exactly what we need to get the right level of urgeny. from trump and from vance. they stayed that israel is the right kind of ally because they engage in self help and they are reliable, strong allies. that's what we need and trump delivered that during his first term. >> and you expect trump to continue what a lot of people consider a curious, affinity for strong men like putin and xi? >> trump is a deal maker but he will also want to hit them hard if they don't give him what he believes is in the united states interest. i think that it'll be a mix. >> speaking of that. there's a

new effort to crack down on and shame line cutters at the airport. and thanksgiving twist. the topside dishes most americans prefer over turkey.

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that many of you have had your fill of politics we want to look at something more cheerful. thanksgiving. up first, holiday travel. there is now a plan to stop those over eager airplane passengers who cut the line and board before they are supposed to. american airlines is testing new technology at three airports which sounds alarms if a passenger tries to board to soon. you will be stopped, told to wait your turn and have to take the walk of shame. kara are you yay or nay? >> i cannot stand line jumpers. i hate it. i have spent a lot of time in travel to get my spot in line and i hate when they jump the line. i hate it. >> do you call them out? >> yes. i'm like what are you doing? i do. i shame them. >> they don't need the alarm. >> the kara alarm. what are you

doing? >> american is purposefully not telling people about this alarm though we now have kind of broken the secret so they actually hear the alarm and are shamed. they say that about one in ten passengers turns out to be a line jumper at least in this test at these three airports. where are you? >> you know i have an authoritan streak. if only we could do that for people cutting other lines as well. i would be violently in favor. people who don't scoop the poop of their dogs. these people should be subject to -- i'm just kidding. >> very. >> blaring alarms. >> i will not accept that. >> now it's time for thanksgiving dinner. a new survey finds most americans, 55% prefer to load up their plate with side dishes, not the turkey. according to campbell a

's state of the side report the top trimming is dressing. the rest of them include mashed potatoes, and mac and cheese. are you yay or nay oneating more sides than turkey? >> i will say even with my husband making a fantastic turkey every year by the time you get to like four days after thanksgiving and you open the fridge and the leftovers are there, it's mashed potatoes and stuffing. that's what i want. >> as with everything turns out there is a generation gap here. generation z say the best side is mac and cheese. the rest of us correctly say it's the stuffing. where are you? sides or turkey? >> i like it all. i like a well balanced bite. i take a little bit of the turkey, put stuffing, gravy, green beans and just. i like -- i like the sandwhichs that have the entire meal stuffed in to them. the

day -- the next day. i'm all about it. it's my favorite meal. i love thanksgiving. >> okay. >> bring it on. i'm sorry. >> thanksgiving will suck this year for many families. you do realize it because of the election. you get that. >> after dinner it's time to gather around the tv and watch some football and now the size of the screen is getting bigger. a lot bigger. according to consumer experts because of improved technology the xxl's which are 98 inches across are flying off the shelves. prices have dropped by more than half, prompting sales to skyrocket by 800% just in the last year. these tvs are bigger across than shaq is tall by a foot. yay or nay on them? >> i love them. i think they are great. >> what? >> your whole wall will be a tv some day. you won't buy them. >> this is horrible. >> you will paint on a screen

some day. i love them. you will have a wall of everything. it'll surround you. >> i have to tell one quick story which is one time my wife and i were out looking for tvs and she said is that one to big and i said darling, there is no such thing as a tv that is to big. there you go. the panel is back with the takes on hot stories or what will be in the news before its news. that's right after the break.

it's time for the panel's special takes on what's happening. our predictions of what we should look out for. >> i come today to defend my industry. the polling industry. after this election i know there are many americans who feel surprised that donald trump swept all seven battleground states but if you looked at most of the public polling averages they did show the race very close. the polls will probably wind up being off by about 1 to 2 points under counting trump's vote and that means we need to figure out -- we tried a lot of things to make sure we capture trump voters. why do we still not get that final 2%? that's pretty good when nobody is picking up the phone, nobody wants to say what they think. i think pollsters did pretty good. >> you are focused on one

particular voting group. >> yeah. i have spent a lot of my career having to explain latino voters every election cycle and i have to say that i am thrilled that this time nobody will be taking the latino vote for granted ever again. it is finally no longer this freeze that i despise, the sleeping giant and now it is just the giant. >> briefly, biden won latinos by 33 points. harris won them by 6. what happened? >> this is based on exit polls. they aren't very reliable so we don't know the real numbers but clearly there was a huge swing and the swing was about quite a few things but most of all, you know, they identified with trump. they liked trump. they liked what he had to say. they even liked him on immigration but more than anything the number one issue for latinos is the economy.

they were hit hard with the inflation and the democrats couldn't come back from this. >> best shot. >> there was another really big swing in the 2024 presidential election and that was in america's big urban centers. miami, chicago, new york city, dallas, houston, big double digit swings for trump from 2020 and if you look at new york city, my home, trump won almost a third of the vote there. up from a little bit over a 5th in 2020. law and order, quality of life, those are the issues that republicans and democrats are going to have to get right. >> bring us home. >> i will repeat what i said about elon musk and trump. one of my favorite moves is highlander and there can be only one and that will be trump. we will see what happens in the wake of that. another thing was the tech ceo's. more

than anyone really bent the knee right after the election and we are i can taking about how much they love to cooperate because they are -- scared of elon's influence and they want influence of their own. particularly jeff bezos who was extremely -- in a way that wasn't surprising to me. >> you know, on this issue of there can only be one. in the first trump term, time magazine put out a cover and there it was in year one, several months in of steve bannon on the cover of time magazine and i remember thinking, the boss is not going to like that. >> right. >> the axios news letter this week had this story calling elon musk the most powerful unelected man ever. trump doesn't like to share the spotlight. >> no and in comparison to the need for attention between bannon and musk, bannon looks like a kitty cat. elon needs a

lot of attention and trump will be irritated by that. >> thank you for being here and thank you for spending part of your day with us. its been a long week. thank you for being here and we will see you right back here next week.

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