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you are in the cnn newsroom. i'm pamela brown in washington. we begin with a cnn projection. cnn now projects that donald trump will be in the state of arizona. this is the last race of the presidential race for cnn to call, and gives him a final total of 312 electoral votes. alayna treene joins us from
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palm beach, florida, with more on this. you might say we already know that the president-elect is trump, but arizona is interesting because he lost to biden, right, in 2020, by less than 11,000 votes but i believe it was the thinnest margin, between the two. i think it is a reflection of how he was able to gain ground this time around, and he is already planning his next penetration and who will be in it and not. >> that is absolutely right, pamela. i think donald trump had obviously won the race , and waiting for arizona would not be a difference in the overall scheme of who was going to be in the oval office, by the end of january. but it does really show the way that donald trump has what so many of the battlegrounds that biden had won , and even some that hillary had one back in 2016. and it also, i will say, has really contributed to this feeling i am hearing described
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, that donald trump is feeling right now, which is a sense that him winning the popular vote, his success in this election, picking up battleground states , that they were unsure of whether they would be successful in or not, that is all contributing to donald trump, of course, reveling in his win, but also in this idea that he feels like he will have a mandate once he is in office, and he feels more confident that he will be able to deliver , and should be able to deliver on some of the key priorities. now, as for what to expect in this upcoming administration. i think it is no secret that on that island behind me, where donald trump is and his allies are, where a lot of people have been meeting and trying to get a table on the patio at mar-a-lago, a lot of jockeying is going on behind the scenes. people want to have some sort of role in a second term . the two people that we know will not have a role in a second term are nikki haley and mike pompeo. donald trump announced tonight on true
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social that he does not want either of them to serve in another administration. and i will tell you, behind the scenes it is interesting. mike pompeo has been floated by many of the people close to donald trump, some people involved in the transition, for potentially being considered as secretar of defense. i will say, there are some people in donald trump's orbit who have really soured on pompeo, who believe that he really should not earn any loyalty from donald trump, given his late endorsement of the former president. but, there are some people who think that he did a great job of secretary of state and that he earned another chance to sit at the table. i will say, as well, that donald trump has privately been asking people close to him in recent days whether or not he thinks he could trust pompeo. so, that is a part of where this came from, i am told. this decision to say that pompeo will have no role in another administration. as for haley, i think there is no secret that while she has come out and said that she supported
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donald trump, that she would vote for him, she wanted the party to unify around donald trump, he still harbors a lot of animosity toward her for the attacks that she lobbed at him during that republican primary. it was a very bitter primary, and he believes that she stayed in it for too long, and that is something that donald trump remarks about behind closed doors. i think that is where you are seeing some of this coming from. now, as we look ahead to the next couple of days, i am told that we could expect some announcements about who will be in his cabinet, more cabinet positions have been announced as well as top white house positions, very soon. donald trump wants to get this first wave as they are describing, of hires, done as soon as possible. pamela? >> lane, thanks so much. as president-elect trump prepares for his next administration, president biden and his team are moving quickly to protect his life legacy and the laws he passed from the incoming trump demonstration. one focus is on the environment, right? the biden
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administration is already working to protect a key wildlife refuge. tell us about that. >> the day after the election, the biden administrator moved to limit drilling in alaska's arctic wildlife refuge. this is a very pristine area in alaska which is home to many endangered animals. they are trying to expansive drilling in that area, and it's just one of the steps the administration is trying to take when it relates to protecting the climate and energy and environmental initiatives. after president-elect trump appears ready to issue orders and proclamations, really focusing in the coming 10 weeks , biden will be trying to shore up and sure of his initiatives to prevent trump from undoing them. one area they want to focus on is trying to get more money and weaponry directly to ukraine at a time when u.s. support for ukraine remains in question under trump with
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republicans in control potentially of both chambers but you also have plans for them to dole out and implement the legislation the past, like the inflation reduction act which includes climate initiatives. also semiconductor manufacturing, they want to get as much money out the door there. biden yesterday nominated two additional federal judges, there are close to 20 now still being considered up on capitol hill but that is something that senate democrats are eager to do, trying to get more judges confirmed. what remains unclear there is weather republican's will cooperate with them in any way. so that is a sample of what the biden administrator is trying to do to shore up their legacy, but they are also aware that there is a lot of stuff trump could undo and has made quite clear that there are many portions of the biden administrator that he potentially want to take executive action on. >> there is this sort of race against the clock that you see with different parties coming to take over the white house. thank you so much. we have
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political analyst ron brownstein joining us for more. ron, i want to talk about the atlantic, this atlantic article where you write, quote, it is virtually impossible for the incumbent presidents party to hold the white house when americans are discontent with that president's performance. do you think any democrat could have one coat tuesday's election? >> in the end i think the answer was no. some might have done better or worse. biden certainly would have done worse , but as you note from my story, we know, people are familiar with the idea that when an incumbent president is unpopular and runs for re-election, they have always lost. george w. bush, jimmy carter, trump himself in 2020. it is less remarked upon is that even when an incumbent president who is facing a high-level disapproval chooses,
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or has do not run for re-election his party has also lost the white house. truman in 1952, it went to republican dwight eisenhower. 20 johnson in 1968, it went to richard nixon. george w. bush in 2008, it went to barack obama. the discontent with biden's performance, not the only factor in this election, obviously, in any election there are many things that matter, but by and large, by far the most important factor. you know, 60% of voters in exit polls said they disapproved of biden's performance, and over 80% of them voted for trump. 70% of voters said they were dissatisfied with the economy, and over 70% of them voted for trump. that was a headwind , in the end, probably impossible for any democratic candidate to overcome, and in many ways, 2022 sent a false signal to the party, sort of a false positive about the degree to which it would be possible to run away from this discontent with biden in a way that i think ultimately had very profound consequences. >> as you know, trump space has been remarkably loyal, but his election this year was fueled
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by this broader coalition. can republicans count on their support, if you cannot make good on some of his sweeping economic promises, or sweeping immigration promises? >> right, that is really the question. if you look across the board , as i said, there was broad discontent with biden's outcomes. the white house may say that was unfair, given the strong job market, strong stock market, but you know, discontent about a big run-up in prices in his first two years really overshadowed this race all the way to the end and that became a dispositive factor, i think, for many of the swing voters in the electorate, but that does not mean they have a raised erased all of their concerns about donald trump. we have major sources who tell us what voters were thinking in the election, the exit polls and cast a study by the election
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center, between them they tell us the majority of voters said they viewed trump as to extreme. the majority said they worried that he would steer the country toward autocracy. the majority said they oppose mass deportation. a majority said that they believe abortion should be legal. the critical factor in this election was that a significant slice of each of those groups voted voted for him anyway, because in effect, it seemed riskier to them besides taking the sleep into the online. one quarter of women who said they were pro-choice voted for trump anyway. and, that, i think, is the core dynamic that tells you how powerful discontent was over where we are as a country , and how much it overrode the continuing unease or concerns or hesitations about trump. he was hired to do a couple of
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things. you know, get the cost of living under control, get the border under control, voters want him to do that? do they want sweeping tariffs? do they want mass deportation? how will they react when they got that? those are very different questions. >> they are, but look, we just reported moments ago that cnn is now projecting that president trump will win the state of arizona, and if you take a step back and look at 2020 to now, you know, four years later he is now projected to win all seven battleground states. what does that say to you? >> yeah. well, as i said before, there is a really important point here about how 2022 sent a false signal to democrats. you know, what we saw in 2022 was that in states where the parties weren't competing, whether they were blue states or red states, in the states where not a lot of money was being spent, republicans improved everywhere because they were lifted by this rising tide of discontent about biden and the economy, but democrats of course did much better in 2022, in the
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battleground states where both sides were competing, places like michigan and pennsylvania, wisconsin and arizona, which we just mentioned. what many people, myself included took from that, was that while broad discontent was likely to reduce the democratic position in the popular vote, publicans were likely to run better in both texas and new york in the selection, the 2022 president suggested they could build a kind of a moat around the swing states, and in the places where they were knocking on doors, making campaign appearances and buying ads, they could shift enough voters away from discontent over biden and the economy, towards other issues. democracy, abortion, you know, views of trump himself and to some extent, they did , in the sense that she ran better in the swing states, lost less ground than she did in the states that were competitive,
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but not nearly as well as 2022. it turns out, i think, when people are voting for governor or senator, it is one step removed from voting for president with they do attribute the authority to affect those national economic outcomes and in many ways, this was the key dynamic. the discontent with biden, is content with the economy, the discontent of the border really radiated everywhere. i mean, trump improved in 90% of the counties in the country between 20 and 24 pick something that uniforms is to me that it wasn't tactics, it wasn't messaging, it wasn't which ad ran in which state, it was a shared national verdict of discontent that really affected voters in all 50 states. >> ron brownstein as always, thank you so much for breaking it down for us. >> thanks for having me. ahead in the cnn newsroom, the urgent efforts happening right now by democratic governors to protect their states from president-elect trumps expected conservative
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agenda. tough talk on the economy helped donald trump win the white house, but what were his promises on pricing and tariffs actually mean for millions of struggling americans? and, how trump could potentially handle conflict in gaza and ukraine as he returns to a world stage that looks very different from the last time he was in the oval office.
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we are following breaking news tonight. cnn is now able to project that former president trump will win the state of arizona and the state electoral votes. arizona is the final state to be projected in the 2024 presidential election. mr. trump now has 312 electoral votes , vice president kamala harris has a 226, and we also have another cnn projection for you right now. democratic greg stanton has one for re-election, beating republican kelly cooper in arizona's fourth district, a critical hold for democrats as they try to win the house after losing the white house and senate to republicans. while democrats wait to learn whether they can win the house, democratic governors are hoping to insulate their states from the conservative policies expected under the next trump administration. eric read is keeping a close eye on this.
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eric, what is the threat that they see from a new trump white house? >> they are certainly worried about abortion rights, especially states considering themselves safe havens for those traveling from red states with abortion bands. they are worried about climate change rules, since states have passed their own vehicle emission standards but one of the biggest concerns we are hearing so far is over what the president-elect mass deportation plan will look like. several democratic governors e that if they do fight the incoming adventist ration, president trump may target federal funding for things like instructor projects, disaster relief, and other federal dollars that blow into their states. that, by the way, is why some governors were less eager than others, to really go after the president-elect immediately in a state like maryland. the
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biggest employer is the federal government. so, there governor, wes moore, had this to say at a cabinet meeting on friday. he said we are ready to push back on this new white house, when necessary, but where we can find common ground, we will. that was a tone that several democratic governors in states that are not dominated by democrats sort of took. >> the illinois governor, for his part, jb pritzker, had some fighting words earlier this week and i want to listen to what he said. >> to anyone who, intends to come take away the freedom and opportunity and dignity of illinoisans, i would remind you that a happier warrior is still a warrior. you come for my people, you come through me. >> what legal battles are these governors bracing for?
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>> to some extent, they have to wait and see exactly what president-elect trump does when taking office. ridiculously executive orders that he signs early on. but for now, some states are drafting briefs that they anticipate they will be filing . they are debating where to file lawsuits, and of course they have options. democratic governors and attorneys general are connected with each other about this, and of course they have done it before. this is a strategy we saw them enact after the 2016 and election, when they filed a record-breaking number of lawsuits against the first trump administration. so, they are preparing, without knowing exactly what every fight is going to look like but they do anticipate several. >> eric bradner, thank you so much. a federal emergency management agency worker has been fired , after telling a disaster relief team to skip homes with signs supporting
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donald trump for president while the team was in florida last month after hurricane milton. a fema administrator called those actions, quote, reprehensible, and a, quote, clear violation of fema's core values and principles to help people, regardless of their political affiliation. the agency says it believes it was an isolated incident, and it is not naming that person. house oversight committee chairman james comber has invited administrator deeann criswell to testify at a hearing later this month to discuss the incident. just ahead, what we know about president-elect trumps plans for the country's long-held role as an international leader and what that could mean . you are watching cnn newsroom.
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around the world, leaders are preparing for the return of donald trump. the political landscape and global conflicts are in a dramatically different place than they were four years ago. new conflict in ukraine and the middle east will both be challenges for the president-elect, no doubt. political and national security analyst david sanger joins is now. david, you have this article in the "new york times" titled trumps win ends a post world war ii era of u.s. leadership. what does that mean? for the world? >> pam, good evening. what it means is this, in the post-cold war world, the united states for both parties, when both parties were in power, would make the case that the u.s. was going to be the leader in
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promoting democracy, promoting free trade, and promoting western values . when president biden came in, he said to the world we are back, and basically tried to make the case that the four years of donald trump, 2017 through 2021, were an aberration. and, that basically, the united states was back to its traditional role. now, after the results of this election, it looks much more like the biden administration was the last gasp of this era . the question now around the world is, will president trump, in his second term, do some of the things he walked up to the edge of in the first term. withdrawal or lower the importance of nato, will he pull out of ukraine , a conflict that was not yet underway you when he left ? how will he deal with the growing
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partnership between russia and china? >> you also write in the "new york times", that the first test of u.s. foreign policy changes under trump will come in ukraine. earlier this year, as you know, trump claimed he would end the conflict in a day . that was on cnn, on our town hall. >> that's right. >> what do you expect to see happen on that front? >> it's a little hard to predict with any great certainty, but there's only one way that i can think of to end the conflict in a day, that is to call vladimir putin and say what you need? he will say, how about the 20% of the country that russia currently controls with its troops , and then call president zelenskyy , of ukraine, and say boy do we have a deal for you. if you give him 20% of the country, we will keep up our funding.
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zielinski had a long phone call with president trump a few days ago , that's the one that elon musk joined in on, and did not walk away from it sounding desperate, so it is possible that he believed there is some form of support coming. but certainly, zelenskyy has got to begin to think that this is the end of the era of large u.s. military intelligence support for the war with russia and he will have to find another way out. >> so much has changed in the world, in the last four years, since trump has been out of the office. had this growing relationship between russia and china . today, cnn learned that russia has ratified a mutual defense treaty with north korea. how does all of this change the calculus in that region, especially with american troops stationed in south korea ? >> it's a really fascinating question. while we saw that
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this agreement was coming, it is nonetheless a big shift, because you will remember that the russians were, by and large, relatively helpful in u.s. efforts to try to convince north korea to give up its nuclear weapons program. of course, that didn't work, and in the efforts to restrain neuron with its nuclear program. russia was on the u.s. and european side of the bargaining table . now, it is pretty clear that they have switched sides. they need something from the north koreans, and they are getting it in the form of ammunition. artillery, and now upwards of 10,000 troops. it is not clear what the north koreans are getting in return , but the expectation in washington is that they will get help on their missile program , and maybe on the nuclear program. so, it is very possible that putin has concluded that it is
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in his interest to have a kim jong-un with the capability to threaten the united states. it extends his power, to some good degree. >> do you think that trump is in for a rude awakening when he comes back into office? you talk about how often he will simplify things with russia and china and so forth. what do you think? >> i think he is but he won't admit it. able say that the reason russia invaded ukraine was that joe biden was in office and had pulled back from afghanistan, and that putin didn't respect him. there are elements of that argument that i think are sustainable, including the effective the afghan withdrawal on putin's calculus, but i think the ability of a new trump administration to get their
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heads around and figure out how to play is the new relationship between china and russia, because clearly, they are creating an alternative to the u.s. area of influence. i suspect that the president , trump, once he gets into office, will think that his relationship will be enough to work his way around that , but it is clear that putin is going to play the russia and china relationship off against the united states , to some degree, and that relationship is big and deep . remember that president xi jinping and president putin have met, something between 50 and 60 times, and deepened their relationship a lot in the last 8 to 10 years. >> david sanger, thank you for your always smart analysis on world affairs. we appreciate it. >> great to be with you.
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still to come, and indiana jury will need at least one more day to defy decide the fate of a man accused of killing two teenage girls, in a case that has gripped the community for more than 7 years. you are in the cnn newsroom.
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jurors in the delphi, indiana, double murder trial will resume deliberation after yet another day of discussing the fate of richard allyn, accused of killing 14-year-old liberty , libby german, and
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14-year-old abby williams, and leaving their bodies near a hiking path. the case has drawn a huge amount of attention since then, and questions remain about whether prosecutors can secure a conviction, due to a lack of physical evidence tying allen to the crimes. susan hendricks has followed this case loosely from the beginning, and she wrote , down the hill, my descent into the double murder in delphi. susan, great to see you. tell us more about this, and where deliberations stand right now? >> great to see you. it has been so long if you think about it because girls would be 21 and 22 years old right now. the family has been waiting so long. law enforcement has kept very little detail out in the press, and finally, i've been to the trial every single day we are hearing details and what we have learned is that richard allyn, while in prison, has been confessing to this. you
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can also hear what was on libby's phone, for so long he was known as the bridge guy, but when you saw what was on her phone, 42 seconds, i was looking over at the family and heard their voices and they sounded so young. what we heard on, we were all leaning forward it was libby saying, there is no path here and then abby saying, do we go this way? is he behind me? and then someone says, down the hill. so we heard that, we saw crime scene photos, abby was dressed in libby's close. for years, authorities knew this, but they do have an unspent bullet in between the bodies that the authority say is richard allyn's gun, but nothing, as you said, you can explain that away, the battle of the experts as it goes. we never really know what the jury is thinking. >> just describing that the video gives me chills. so
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awful, right? you know, people at home might be wondering, he has already confessed to the murder, why is a conviction not such a thing? >> exactly. excellent question that the defense paints a picture of hey, botched investigation, you got the wrong guy. the ballistic expert says it doesn't match, they didn't arrest this guy, he was hiding in plain sight as the authorities say. he was married to his high school sweetheart sweetheart, had a daughter who recently got married, but the defense explains that away and says look, he was in a maximum security prison, no other inmates had been in there who were not convicted. innocent until proven guilty? the authority say they couldn't hold him in carroll county because of all of the talk about two young girls who put him there and then he was a suicide risk to himself, so he
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was in a special area . but, the defense is saying that is not true, he is in solitary confinement, he was losing his mind and therefore he confessed. but pham, i heard about seven confessions they played, i'm not saying that where he was did not affect his mind, but he sounded very calm, saying to his mom, i did it . i killed abby and libby. no you didn't, that place is messing you up. yes i did. as calm as that. but you never know. the family is on high alert, pins and needles, wondering. it could be a holdout. but today, this is key, they asked for the evidence on libby's phone and it evidence , to say hey we are looking at you again, and they're comparing the voices, so we are guessing what it means. >> if alan were to be found not guilty, or there was a hung jury, what then? could this case be tried again? >> that is what the talk was today. i spoke about it with five different people, and they always said, you never really
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know , interviewing so many lawyers through the years that i'm doing that, i'm predicting. so if it does, absolutely it will go and they will do it once again, but these jurors i trust. i have been looking over at them, and they are paying close attention. indiana is one of the few states we can ask questions to each witness. so, the judge says, any questions, they raise their hand, they go to a sidebar and come back and the judge asked the witness the question, and then he answered it. so it gives you an idea how they are thinking , and they are intelligent questions, when it comes to ballistics and they are engaged, paying attention, and they take this seriously. >> susan hendricks, so great to see you but thank you so much. for bringing us the latest on this important case. >> thanks. when we come back, tax breaks . cheaper prices for groceries and of course, tariffs. when we come back we are talking with personal finance expert george, about his personal finance policies
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and what they would mean if they come to pass. you are in the cnn newsroom.
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with bidenomics in the rearview mirror, the american economy is going to reflect the priorities now donald trump. so, what does that mean for you and your wallet? let's discuss with george hamel, he is a personal finance expert, host
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of the george hamel show, and cohost of the ramsey show. george, great to see you. let's start with taxes. why don't we? donald trump tax cuts were due to expire, but with him in the white house presumably those are extended. what does that mean for us? >> back in 2017, the tax cuts and jobs act happen and we will probably see more of that. able to expand and probably renew that which means we will see the standard deduction stay raised, almost double for most americans, we will see lower tax rates and we will see the corporate tax rate potentially go down as well. and he is looking to also remove federal taxes from social security, tips and overtime pay. this could have a net positive effect on a lot of americans to the tune of about $1200 annually. >> what about the deficit? the ballooning deficit? >> that is the trade-off. anytime you take money away from the government, through tax cuts, it is going to
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increase the national deficit to be done create revenue from somewhere else. and, that is where the tariffs come into play, he is saying he is going to increase the government revenue through tariffs and make up for the tax-cut lost revenue. >> yes, tariffs he said, quote, the most beautiful word in the dictionary is tariff. now, the national retail federation in his analysis last week found the price of a $50 pair of sneakers would rise $59-$64 under terms tariffs. so, if we get maybe a break from, for example, the taxes, would be be paying more for a pair of shoes potentially if he follows through on his promises with terrace? >> absolutely. with your tax savings you will just be paying more for those goods that have tariffs on them. so, this is a net negative for consumers out there, especially in the short term. terrace just tax the u.s. importers, and guess what, they pass the cost on to the consumer. just like we have seen with credit card fees but the businesses will not pay that fee and they will just
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raise prices in order to cover that. so, that could increase the cost for consumers upwards of $2600 per year. so, there is going to be some good and bad in all of these policies. >> what about inflation? trump blamed the surge in immigrants for the housing crisis . most economists disagree with that. will americans see any relief there on inflation? and also on things like, you know, grocery prices? those are the things that really drove voters in this election to vote for trump, frankly. >> absolutely. the housing market is not controlled by immigration. it is all about supply and demand. and the hopeful message here, is hey if we can cut back some of the redtape and regulation and open up some of this federal land we will increase the housing supply and therefore we could see housing prices reduced by about 5 to 10%. which would be a net positive. but, again, the president does not control interest rates for mortgages, they don't control the housing market, so i think this will be
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a long game to play to get to a place where home affordability is back on the docket. >> how many times have we heard trump say he wants to, quote, drill baby drill. what does this mean for americans ? should we look forward to lower gas and energy prices? >> this is really more of a jobs play , part of his america first narrative and what we will see is, with increased u.s. oil production, we are not going to see the prices at the pump skyrocket down, because what we pay at the pump is largely controlled by the global oil. and so, i don't think we will see a huge effect at the pump, unfortunately. but we could see some jobs out of this, and so i wouldn't expect huge changes when you are pumping your car up. >> george, thank you so much. >> absolutely, thank you. catherine, princess of wales back in the public eye today. we will explain next right here in the cnn newsroom.
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the princess of wales is back to public duties after completing treatment for cancer. catherine attended a remembrance day event in london alongside king charles iii at her husband, prince william. the 42-year-old princess was diagnosed with cancer, earlier this year , just one month after the king was also diagnosed with cancer. she finished chemotherapy september, but said her road to recovery is going to be long.
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the senior oil is expected to attend another public event tomorrow, and of course, we are all wishing her the best on her road to recovery. she looks great. a quick programming note for you, dr. sanjay gupta ventures across the globe to see what popular weight loss medications are transforming lives. you can watch dr. sanjay gupta reports , is ozempic right for you on sunday, november 17th, at 8:00 p.m. on cnn. thank you so much for joining me this evening. you can follow me on instagram, tiktok, facebook, at pamela brown cnn. thanks for spending a part of your saturday night with us.