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you are in the cnn newsroom paradigm pamela brown in washington. it has been almost 4 years since former president trump walked out of the white house and reno know the next wednesday morning, he will return and walk right back in. today, the biden administration says the two presidents will meet in the oval office just four days from now, in a precursor to what should be a peaceful transition of power. the road to the inauguration may have a few bumps as cnn learns the former president has not signed the ethics agreement required by law for this transition. cnn's elena tree joins us, we have also heard of two former trump administration officials who are not going to be a part of the new attestation. tell us more. >> reporter: that's right. if this is any preview, i'm sure you remember, but the saturday night news messages post on social media, we are back, and i think it's a good preview of what to expect with donald trump sworn into office in
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january. he announced tonight, not new hires, but to people who he said will not be joining his second administration, which includes nikki haley, and mike pompeo. i will read to you a bit of what he posted. he said, quote, i will not be inviting former ambassador nikki haley or former secretary of state mike pompeo to join the trump administration, which is currently information. i very much enjoyed and and officiated working with them previously and like to thank them for their service to our country. now, some background information on where this is coming from. i've been talking with several of donald trump's top advisers. over the last 24 hours, and over the last week repeatedly, and how in the process of them working on this transition stuff. essentially, when it came to pompeo, i was told that many people in donald trump's inner circle and his orbit believe that he did a really good job as donald trump secretary of state and that he deserved a seat at the table this time around. however, his relationship with donald trump is not what it once was. pompeo
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distanced himself from the former president after he left office in 2021. donald trump, i'm told in private was has questioned whether or not pompeo would be loyal to him or if he could trust him. obviously that is something that donald trump values above all else. many were skeptical of whether or not he would actually be put up for a top-tier job now, one job that he had been floated for, i am told, and some people had put his name into consideration for, was the secretary of defense. clearly that is not going to happen. now as for haley, donald trump has told people who he is close to, that he appreciated that she got on stage at the republic national convention in july, that she called for unity and ultimately supported him, but he still harbors a lot of animosity, i'm told, for her over the attacks that she lobbed at him during the republican primary. it was a very bitter primary between the two of them come up with and also that she had kind
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of hung on so long during that primary , and did not drop out sooner. that is something that donald trump believes wasn't appropriate. that is where some of this is coming from. >> helena, thank you for bringing us the context around this decision coming from donald trump tonight about who will not be in his administration this time around. just over 10 weeks left as president biden runs the clock down on his term, he and his team will have to move quickly to protect his legislation and his legacy from the incoming trump administration. that is what we are being told some sources being happening behind the scenes. arlette has more on this. we know that the trump team is preparing executive orders on energy and climate. what is the white house doing, now, the biden white house doing to protect the measures it has enacted? >> reporter: pamela, sources have said the president-elect trump plans to have his executive orders, executive orders, things like withdrawing from the paris climate agreement or trying to shrink
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the size of national monuments, to open up more drilling on public lands. the biden administration is well aware that they can't protect everything , that there are things that are going to be out of their control that trump can try to take aim at. those are some examples. what they are trying to do is to shore up their existing initiatives, trying to get more grants and awards out the door. they have also worked really hard to finalize rules and regulations much earlier in the year, so that they wouldn't be -- congress couldn't question them closer in these final weeks, if they had potentially rolled them out after the election. just on wednesday, they actually announced that they were going to limit the amount of drilling in alaska , in their arctic wildlife refuge but this is a very pristine area where there are many endangered animals, that is something they want to protect from drilling, so what you are seeing from the biden administration across the energy, the epa, climate initiatives, really trying to shore up what they can , though they are well aware that energy
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and climate will be a top target for the trump administration pics but i want to talk about vice president kamala harris, because the first gained our first limbs of her tonight. >> a photo posted on instagram showing vice president kamala harris playing with her grand nieces. you can see them there on the floor, she is wearing her howard bison sweatshirt from where she went to college , and they are playing connect for. it is unclear exactly when this photo was taken, but i think it does show the connection that she has had with the family which has been with her throughout this entire process. we have not seen vice president harris since she gave that speech at howard university, the day after she had lost this election. we will see whether we see her at the white house but this is one of the first moments that we have seen. >> her knees talked about how this is where it all began,
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back in july, the interview was back in july, but she is apparently playing with her nieces. so now she has resumed that. arlette, thank you so much. it is not just policy in for a major overhaul, the 2024 election also brings a reckoning for both political parties. for democrats, questions about messaging, and major connect between the party and its once reliable democratic voters . for republicans, the future is now . but, the majority that voted for donald trump has high expectations . i want to bring in presidential historian deb doug brinkley. good to see you. the first 100 days are critical for any president. what do you think trump's first 100 days will look like. what are you watching for? >> one thing i am looking at is what is going on with ukraine, and russia. on wednesday,
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president biden has a meeting with donald trump and i am positive that he is going to try to convince trump to stay the course with zelenskyy, to double down with ukraine, at least for maybe six more months, meanwhile, biden is trying to arm them with missile systems as quickly as possible. the other thing is the deportation of a document at work is progressing for donald trump that is first and foremost in his mind, with hyperbole on the campaign trail, trump talked about 11 million undocumented workers being rounded up and deported, you're not going to get 11 million, but there will be millions and that has to be project number one for trump along with securing the border , and then donald trump will sign every executive order he could possibly come up with. not all will stick, but a lot will come and that will get him rolling in those first 100 days. >> so, republicans now have the white house, they have control of the senate. the house is still up for grabs in the gop
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could win that, too. what is history tell us about parties that control both congress and the white house? >> you know, abraham lincoln's favorite saying was, this, too, shall pass. republicans don't want to get to ahead of their skis here. time changes and things happen. midterms are two years away. for public and maintain congress it will be by only a few representatives. staying the course without panic, it is a two-party system and the question i would have is, who is the resistance to donald trump in the democratic party, now. we don't know what kamala harris is going to do as the next vice president . joe biden is at the end of his line, barack obama may try to play an elder statesman role. i think that you will see governor gavin newsom be the television talking resistance leader , particularly when it
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comes to public lands and climate , and then you will see the democratic national committee do a big rethink and start looking for who can be leadership in two years, you can connect with the american public. there has got to be some humility on the democratic side but they lost badly. >> and. lots of lessons to learn from this past election, and you talk about how they lost badly, just look at the working-class voters. leaving in droves, especially white working-class voters leaving the party how do they win them back? >> it's tricky for one of the reasons elon musk left california and moved to texas is because of tax structure, yes, but also , anti-labor union. in fact, joe biden, when he was promoting, he invited all the electric vehicles and leaders to the white house and left musk out because biden wanted to be seen as per labor. so, musk is going to play an outsized role. he is talking
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about cutting federal government easy by one third. that is trillions of dollars, those are jobs. there will be repercussions. where are those cuts coming? i suppose the department of education as a target, epa, perhaps agriculture and interior. anything that feels a feel-good democrat. weather president trump and the republicans, how they deal with the affordable care act will be interesting. trump might just be happy putting it as a trump care, reformatting it and trying to get a win with that in the history sweepstakes, but nancy pelosi spoke out today, and basically blamed joe biden for not getting out early, not allowing the field of democrats to rise. so, there is a civil war within the democratic party , between pelosi and obama and the biden folks, and also bernie sanders and aoc on the progressive front. >> a lot of finger-pointing,
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but also a larger question of, could any democrat have beaten trump , given the climate right now. trump still has not signed an ethics agreement required for presidential transitions. it includes a pledge vowing to avoid conflict of interest once sworn into office. footnote, trump himself signed this into law in march of 2020. what is your reaction to that ? does it have significance to you? >> it has significance, it's typical trump goal. donald trump has never believed in what is good for the goose is good for the gander. that is not a maxim that he uses, so i doubt he would sign that. i think he's going to want to assert a new kind of power of the presidency. executive orders are really more recent phenomena. we sometimes call lincoln's emancipation proclamation executive order number one, but by the time you
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get to franklin d roosevelt, there are 3700, and trump sees the power of executive power with the supreme court, which gives him immunity, basically the supreme court went with richard nixon and david frost, if the president does it it must be legal, trump will try to weigh in on a way we have not seen. let's go back to 1980 and look at how ronald reagan took over the map. reagan wanted to drill public lands and extract with james watt as head of interior. what was gone, shortly, because the public wouldn't tolerate the mauling of our natural resources in such a fashion and reagan had put in somebody like alexander haig at secretary of state, this ultra hot, only to fire him and replace him with a more moderating george schultz. so, the doors of politics swing, but this is not good
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news for employees of maryland and delaware and district of columbia. there will be a big downsizing of the regulatory state. that is the goal of trump, get the federal government out of your life , and as for those blue-collar workers you are talking about, there has been bitterness over nafta , which was passed and embraced really by bill clinton and george herbert walker bush . ross perot ran, he got 19% in 1992 on the sucking sound that you hear, of the jobs going to mexico, meaning, the gutting of cities like milwaukee or akron so, trump means his tariff but it will not be anywhere near as high on mexico or china as he was intimating. there was a lot of hyperbole by donald trump on the campaign trail, that'll get shrunk down to size it doesn't mean it won't be ardent. >> there is always the question of what a candidate says on the trail and what will actually turn into policy when they are in office. we will be watching
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that closely. douglas bradley, thank you so much. still ahead on this saturday night, state and federal agencies are looking into racist text sent to mostly black americans, including children, after the election. a suspect is in custody after a stabbing spree in seattle. what we know about the nine victims. you are in the cnn newsroom.
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tonight, federal and state agencies are investigating to
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try to find the source of a slew of racist, hate filled text messages sent to mostly black americans right after the election . one mass text messaging service tells cnn, it is artificial intelligence flagged and they stopped one user from sending similar messages. file roma joins us with more, what more do we know about these messages? >> the messages appear to have been sent using free phone service and mobile data providers. one of these providers, known as text now told cnn friday the company believes this is a widespread coordinated attack. we hate filled messages have been reported in more than 20 states, as you mentioned, from new york to california, and the district of columbia. students from at least three historically black colleges in virginia, tennessee, and several and have reported receiving messages and the text appear to be robot text messages. one of the biggest
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questions here, pam, is , how is it possible to do something like this anonymously? louisiana attorney general liz murrell said on friday that if this is a single person or a group, they are using anonymizing software to obscure their location, which makes it very difficult to track them. as you can imagine, this is cause for great concern for those receiving the messages, as well as parents and loved ones. >> this is truly disgusting and whoever is sending out his vile. nobody should think to send that message or receive that message. it made me sick to my stomach. >> we do talk about politics because not something that i hide from him because he's going to be a black man in america. i make sure that he understands what the landscape of his adult hood could look like. the fact that it happened the day after election day, it speaks to what i think is going on here.
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>> reporter: the naacp denounced the messages saying they were present and are alarming increase in violent rhetoric from racist groups across the country who now feel emboldened to spread hate and stoke flames of fear that many of us are feeling after tuesday's election results . we have also heard from president-elect donald trump campaign spokeswoman, caroline leavitt told cnn that trumps presidential campaign has absolutely nothing to do with these text messages. cnn has also learned that another text messaging service called text spot was apparently able to stop a new user from sending racist text messages. text spot says it was thanks to artificial intelligence that they immediately flagged the message and prevented it from being sent until they were able to conduct an internal review. pam, the company says they then blocked the message and banned the user from the platform, and, this is important, shared the information with local law enforcement, and the fbi.
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>> rafael romo, thank you so much. trumps return to the white house can be credited in part due to his increase and report from americans of color. trump won more black votes than any republican candidate has in five decades. nationwide, 1 and 5 black men cast their votes for trump. omar gimenez looks at what motivated the change. >> reporter: have you noticed a shift in black men here in pennsylvania? >> definitely. >> what do you mean? >> when i was growing up, people used to say the republicans were for businesses and the democrats were for the regular working class. that i don't think that is the same right now. i think the roles have flipped a bit. >> reporter: lynn holland is a republican ward leader into littlefield for selection, he says he has more republican voters in his community than he is used to. >> i've been with some places of guys who so you know, i kind of like what he is doing. and
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they might talk smack, too, you know what i mean? it doesn't bother what he is saying him . they like his macho image, i guess, or whatever he's doing, and they just wanted be a part of something different. >> reporter: to be clear, the overwhelming majority of black men in pennsylvania supporting vice president kamala harris for president and supported joe biden in 2020. based on cnn exit polls in 2020, just 10% of black men in 2020 supported donald trump at this election, that number jumped to 26% in the state. that is the biggest increase in any of the swing states. nationally, the shift was smaller, going from 19% of black men in 2020, 21% in 2024. >> reporter: have you noticed a shift within the black community, justin conversations that you have had over the last 4 to 8 years? >> absolutely. in 2016, you know, there was quiet support, but it was groundbreaking to
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vote another way. in 2020, it became more of a reality , that there is an option, here, right? in the next cycle, if that doesn't work, then we do something else, but we cannot be permanently buried in the morass of voting one way for the rest of our lives. >> reporter: calvin tucker is a trump ally and chair of the philadelphia black republican counsel. he also believes economic reasons ranked above anything the former president has said. >> you may misinterpret something someone says, or, i'm not rooting for your attitude. i have worked with people that have not been as favorable to me as an individual. but, at the end of the day, i can get a check and feed my family. >> reporter: we know the
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economy was top concern for a lot of voters this election cycle, but those two forces in their profiles are not necessarily representative of the majority of black voters here in pennsylvania, or in philadelphia, or of black women, more than 95% of whom supported vice president kamala harris, and president joe biden, according to cnn exit polling. but, their answers do give a little insight to some of what we have seen from black man this election cycle, even if not the majority. omar gimenez, cnn, philadelphia. >> thanks to omar. still ahead for you, iran is denying the u.s. justice department claims that it plotted to kill donald trump before the election. what we know about the plot and the men charged with you are in the cnn newsroom.
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welcome back. iran is denying it had anything to do with an alleged plot to kill president trump ahead of the election. the country called the allegations a malicious conspiracy and on friday the justice department announced federal charges against three people, including two u.s. citizens. one person is still at large and he ran. for macias cia officer bob baer joins us now, he is also the author of the perfect kill, 21 laws for assassins great to see you. i want to get your reaction on this lot. how alarming is it? especially as it is the first alleged attempt by the rain regime? >> veering into 45 years of history in carrying out attacks
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and assassinations and they are all approved at the time but i can't think of a single rogue operations, so i don't believe them. we had plentiful attendant intelligence on what the reins of done over the years, so i doubt this is a rogue attack. also, i think the iranians feel that they are backed into a corner between israel and the united states, and they are looking at this as an accidental conflict which could bring down the regime, and they are going to find ways to asymmetrically strike back at the united states and of course the first primary target would be president from. >> the u.s. government has repeatedly warned that iran may try to retaliate for a 2020 u.s. drone strike which killed a top iranian general qasem soleimani. to kill trump or his former advisers, how committed to you and they are to seeking this revenge and dealing these plots will continue? >> soleimani was not a foot soldier. he was very important
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in iranian politics. probably equally as important as the supreme leader , khamenei. assassinating him was a redline for the iranians. and i wouldn't be surprised if they try to retaliate . what worries me is that we are drifting into a wider conflict in the middle east. it is already a regional conflict , but it could get a lot worse, and if it turns out that we find out that khamenei tried to assassinate trump, how can you go to the white house , and pretend it didn't happen? i don't see that happening. >> there is still a lot to learn, do you think that the fact that trump will now be back in office changes the threat level from iran at all? >> know. i think it is much worse now. don't forget, these people who were caught were not
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the a team. there are cells in this country that answer to iran and know what they are doing. they have assassinated leaders, very effectively, and it is very difficult for the fbi to roll up all these guys. there are bits and pieces, we have picked up certain amounts of people and it has been in the newspapers but i think of people outside the government understand the full threat. >> you so you think it is worse now that he has been re-elected, tell us a bit more about the why, and how you see it . >> i think for instance, if there is a decision made that the iranian regime is irredeemable, there will be an impetus for israel and the united states to take out their nuclear facilities. right now they could be six months or one year away from a nuclear bomb. israel won't stand for it, we won't stand for it. but the israelis alone cannot take out
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those facilities . there is a certain ground element , you got troops on the ground to get down into the bunkers, a very brief incursion, by the way, but nonetheless, that is the risky part of it, it's not like going to war in gaza or southern lebanon, it is a real country with a real deterrence . >> bob baer, thank you as always for coming on to share urinalysis. your analysis. has blessed at least 20 people were killed today after israeli airstrikes. more than a dozen people were also wounded. as for israel's war against hamas, qatar says it is suspending its role as mediator in peace talks over a lack of willingness to reach an agreement. a diplomat familiar with the decision tell cnn that delhi has also decided to close the hamas office. today, the idf says it dealt a severe blow to hamas after claiming the forces killed 1000 fighters and captured 1000 more north of gaza over the past three weeks.
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cnn's chief global affairs correspondent, matthew chance, has more. >> reporter: the head of the israeli military says about 1000 hamas militants were killed in northern gaza in the past three weeks and another 1000 were captured in this refugee camp area of northern gaza on friday. the chief of the general staff of the idf described those figures as, quote, a significant achievement from israel, and a blow to hamas. the israeli military circled the area more than a month ago and launched a new ground operation forcing residents to flee . it said the operation was necessary because they had seen signs of hamas rebuilding in the area, despite a year of heavy bombardments and two previous ground operations. meanwhile, the un's jaleel children agency,
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unicef, says at least a 64 attacks have taken place in schools in the gaza strip in the last month, and an estimated 128 people were killed in the strikes. many of them children. israel military says civilians, many of those in schools are often used by hamas as human shields. the united nations has also issued a new and detailed reports on casualties in gaza in the first six months of the conflict there, saying close to 60% were women and children. but u.s. humans human rights chief says reports show civilian casualties were a direct consequence of the failure to comply with fundamental principles of international humanitarian law. the israeli military has yet to comment. matthew chance, cnn, jerusalem. still had, police arrest a man after nine people are
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stabbed over two days in seattle. what we are learning about the seemingly random attacks. you are in the cbn cnn newsroom.
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some positive news today from the front lines of the battle against california's mountain fire. improving weather conditions are helping firefighters to contain the blaze. strong wind has died down and humidity levels have risen. the bad news, the winds that fueled the fire could return next week. the fire has
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destroyed more than 500 properties while burning more than 20,000 acres of land . because of the fire remains unknown. seattle authorities have arrested a man they believe is linked to a 38 hour stabbing spree in the city's chinatown international district. police say the attacks were complete the random, and injured nine victims. cnn correspondent camilla burnell has more. >> reporter: police say that witnesses were able to get a description of the suspect, and then verify the suspect after the arrest. authorities also saying that they found a weapon in the area where the suspect was arrested , and they were also able to recover a knife that was still in one of the victims, so they will be able to test this and use it to verify their theories. now, this all happened within 38 hours in the chinatown international district . we know that at least nine or maybe even 10 people were stabbed . now, on friday, five people were stabbed, and of those, one was treated at the
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scene and then released. the other four were taken to harborview medical center in critical condition. the hospital was able to say, on friday night, that two of these victims have been upgraded and in terms of their conditions , and two others were still in critical condition. unfortunately, four or five other people were also stabbed on thursday, and police believe that the same person is responsible. take a listen to what authorities are saying. >> is a similar suspect description, the randomness of this , this is a horrific tragedy, a mass casualty event, officers matching a suspect deception given by witnesses, witnesses were then brought by, who look at that suspect, and confirmed that that was the correct person. >> reporter: you heard their authority saying we believe that most of these stabbings
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were random, but there is one random that happened on thursday, where police believed that a 60-year-old man was in his car, and someone tried to forcibly open the door to steal his cell phone. they stabbed him in the chest. what they are trying to do is to verify whether or not this stabbing is also related to the nine others. regardless, this has been extremely concerning for the people of this community, the people who live there and work there, or even how to walk through this area. this is a horrific attack. >> certainly, camilla burnell, thank you. still ahead, donald trump's loyal base, how white men laid the foundation for trump so when here in the cnn newsroom.
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trumps victory this week would not have been possible without one group in particular. young white men . that group has become a cornerstone of his base , even as republicans continue to lose support among women voters. joining us now, to better understand how and why they have repelled trump to a second term is founding editor of gawker and contributing opinion columnist at the "new york times", elizabeth spires. elizabeth, thank you for coming on. you make the case in your recent opinion piece in the
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"new york times", quote, on the long road to election day, no group of voters was more loyal to donald trump than young white men . mr. trump offered a regressive idea of masculinity in which power over women is a birthright. how so, in your view? >> trump is basically a walking avatar of an idea of masculinity that, not just young white men buy into, but is very dominant in our culture, and it says that the good kind of masculinity is a masculinity that represents strength, physical toughness, mental toughness, resistance to adversity , and a lot of these things seem like they are good qualities, but it also represents things like aggression, or anything that might be construed as non-feminine. and so if you look at the way that trump talks about himself, he talks about himself as a strong man. and he tends to cast his opponents as being weak, and he feminize his them. even tim walz, who encapsulates a lot of the masculine ideals, he referred to as tampon tim. for
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young white men who are seeking that kind of validation of the top of the hierarchy where they rest is appropriate and that is where they should be, donald trump reinforces all of those things for them. >> in your article, you are really trying to make the argument that, look, donald trump appealed to men, who may not be where they want to be in life by saying it's not your fault, it's because of women, and bei programs and that kind of thing. but, then you look at a higher like susie wiles to be his chief of staff, the first female chief of staff . a very powerful position, but you make of that? >> i think it is not represented to of of what he has done in general. he certainly has not elevated women in his policymaking, and one of the things that you have to consider when you think about what our dominant mode of masculinity is, it is not just men who buy into it. white women voted in huge amounts for
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trump, partly because they consider themselves adjacent in their power structure, to white men. there are a lot of nonwhite men who voted for trump on the same basis, because they have an idea of what a leader should look like, and it is someone who should embody all of these qualities. so, trump can occasionally hire a woman in a position of prominence, or a nonwhite person or may be a person with an identity that he spent most of the campaign denigrating, and it doesn't really change the fact that his rhetoric heavily elevated white men, and told white men that you belong at the top of the hierarchy. this is the natural order of things, and that is what makes it morally correct and good. >> this election cycle , podcasts were more important than i have been in the past. both campaigns use them to generate headlines and they were targeting the podcast based on audiences, but republicans seems to be a step ahead in using them to reach voters. what do you think about
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the advantage they had in that space? >> reporter: they are a step ahead. it is a frustration many people like me have. i have a 9-year-old son, and he is online to some extent, and i look at what people online are telling men , and the popularity of these podcast are particularly framing a lot of what they talk about around the language of self-improvement, which is ostensibly healthy , but then their definitions of what a healthy strong person is, skew heavily towards these very regressive masculine ideals. so, you don't have to go very far from somebody like joe rogan, who is mainstream, to get to somebody like andrew tate, who is more directly misogynistic , a podcast who is very popular with younger men, and what these people are promising younger men is a way to live a life where they are successful, successful with women in particular, and they
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can make themselves into figures like donald trump, who are wealthy , you know, and at the top of the power hierarchy. >> you mentioned joe rogan. trump sat with joe rogan for an interview, we were just showing clips of that. harris was in talks with rogan but eventually declined his invitation. was that a mistake? >> reporter: here is the thing. she agreed to do that, but it was very late in the campaign, and he said she has to come to me, and she needs to give me a minimum of three hours, and he has not made the demands of other people. >> trump went to him. trump went to him and she diverted her plane to go on snl. that would be the counterargument. >> i think in that case, snl also offered trump a spot with rogan, he had already done the interview with trump on some of trumps terms and had done it earlier. harris was
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last-minute. but also, he could have made that work, he chose not to. i think partly because he knows that his corot audience is heavily composed of people who like donald trump because he embodies these ideals of masculinity, and i doubt that he wanted to alienate them. you know ? joe rogan is still a businessman. it is not just a matter of him, he is not a journalist, he is not trying to get to the truth, he is running his own show in a way that he would run it personally. >> all right, elizabeth speier, thank you for coming on to share your opinion on this. we appreciate it. >> thank you for having me. coming up, president-elect donald trump is a to visit the white house next week. what we know about the meeting with president biden in the oval office. you are in the cnn newsroom.
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