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good evening, i'm caitlin collins on a very busy sunday night at mar-a-lago. i have some new reporting for you this evening on what's been going on in the last 48 hours inside donald trump's orbit as the president-elect is now narrowing down his choices for critical roles in his incoming administration. staffing was one of trump's biggest regrets in his first time, and he's vowed to get it right this time. which, for him, means hiring people who are more
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loyal to him and less likely to push back. apparently there are many people eager to meet that requirement. mar-a-lago has basically been brimming for the last two days, i'm told, with two kinds of people. those angling for a job and those trying to persuade trump into hiring their picks. but one person is looming over all of that. his name is elon musk. multiple sources have told me tonight that musk has been seen at mar-a-lago nearly every day since trump won, dining with him on the patio at times. today they were seen on the golf course together. musk has been in the world when world leaders have been on the phone with trump, and he's making clear his preference for certain staffing decisions. tonight he's backing florida senator rick scott as the next leader of the republican conference to replace mitch mcconnell. while musk himself is still not expected to take any formal position inside trump's administration given how complicated it would be
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with his companies, what's becoming clearer tonight is he doesn't really need to. with one source telling me elon musk is having just as much influence from the outside. with trump on the verge of announcing some new hires, including several people who served in his last administration, he did confirm today there are two who will not be asked back. nikki haley, who served as his ambassador to the united nations, and mike pompeo who was trump's cia director and secretary of state the last time around. the former president very publicly crossed their names off his list with this post on truth social saying quote, i will not be inviting former ambassador haley or secretary pompeo to join the trump administration. joining me now is alana. what are you hearing not just about musk, but what else has been going on the last couple of days? >> reporter: well, you're exactly right. i think your analysis of musk's influence is right, is definitely accurate, is spot on i should
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say. i also heard he's not just, you know, with donald trump and at mar-a-lago, but he's also been calling up some of donald trump's allies, including many people in congress, lawmakers, and trying to exert his influence that way. he's also been bringing his children to mar-a-lago. donald trump, just the day after the election we reported earlier this week, was shown, or was seen showing around musk's children around his florida home. and so there's no question that musk has such great influence. part of that, as well, i'm told behind the scenes is that one, donald trump thinks that musk is really smart. he loves being able to say he has someone backing him who he's close to who is involved in sending rockets into space. so some of that as well is donald trump loving just having musk by his side. as for some of the other hires, there's no question that on that island behind me at mar-a-lago, donald trump has been locked down. i'm told he's very focused, particularly this time more so, than back in 2016, on making the right decisions for who is
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going to fill out his cabinet. and that's really the main focus right now. he's primarily focused on filling out who his cabinet will be and also top white house roles. now, i also think him crossing off mike pompeo and nikki haley from his list is very interesting. i heard in my conversations about what he went so public with that over the weekend was that first of all, when it comes to pompeo, even though many people close to trump believe that pompeo was a great secretary of state, that he deserved a seat at the table this time around, they argued that donald trump wasn't sure if he was loyal enough. actually in private conversations he asked people directly do you think he would be loyal to me, can i trust him, and of course we know that's really the utmost value, and the thing of utmost importance to the president-elect. as for haley, we're told he still harbors a lot of animosity for her for one, the attacks throughout the primary and also staying in the
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primary beyond what donald trump deemed appropriate. so if you look at what he's saying, not just the new announcements, but the people he's saying will not be in the second administration, it clearly shows loyalty will be the top of the list, and he wants to surround himself with people who will say yes to him and not hold back. a departure from 2016. >> and are there any jobs the trump team has been hyper focused on whether it's attorney general or any of those where he felt like he made the wrong decision his first time around and now is especially focused on? >> reporter: yes, i think attorney general. i know you know this as well, but this is the most important role for donald trump. actually, when he left the white house in 2021, he had said previously that his biggest regret was who he hired for attorney general referring to jeff sessions and bill barr. so this time he wants someone
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who's in lock step with him. he wants his attorney general to be his legal pit bull. and part of that as well is he wants to completely change how the department of justice operates. he no longer wants it to be as independent as it has been traditionally and over the past several years now. instead he wants it to be operating alongside him. and of course, potentially even using his attorney general to help prosecute some of his political opponents. i think the other big roles that i'm told donald trump values most right now includes the cia director, secretary of defense, and secretary of homeland security. i think that's a good preview of what donald trump may do with all those agencies and what he's looking forward to as his biggest priorities come january 20th. >> many decisions to come. thank you. i want to talk about this now with my political sources here. former new york
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city mayor bill deblasio and michael singleton. let's talk about the influence of musk. we knew he had influence from the campaign, but on friday it became clear, and just this weekend has really showcased how much musk will influence what this potential trump term, staffing-wise, looks like. >> i'm not necessarily opposed to it. i think about presidents of the past with influential outside advisors. fdr's brain trust, kennedy's wise men. you've seen things similar in the past where presidents relied on outside advisors, close friends without cabinet posts to advise them on very influential issues. i went back and looked at old news article, and some journalists were very, very critical of some of the outside advisors at the time because they didn't have cabinet posts. i'd put elon musk in the same vein, i don't think it's problematic at all. >> how do you see it given elon
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musk is the world's richest man, he has major defense contracts with the federal government. >> well, it would appear there will be some conflicts, and i have my own opinions about elon musk and the way he's run twitter and some other companies. he's been accused of firing people within his companies who disagree with him. i think that's awful. but my opinion doesn't matter. donald trump was given the keys to the kingdom last week. and with that, he gets to put anyone he wants around him, and it can be the people i think are very dangerous to democracy. it doesn't, it doesn't matter. this was a mandate. unlike 2016 where donald trump won the republican primary by a pleuralty because 1800 people ran alongside him, and then there was a sense when he went in he wasn't really going to know what he was doing, so they surrounded him with people who had already been in the establishment, in republican circles, in the administration. this is not that time. he gets to bring in
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anyone he wants. we could hate it, we could be very afraid of it, but that's what he wants. and i would not blame him for bringing people he thinks are loyal to him and he thinks are going to help him implement his vision of the country. not one bit. >> well, i hear you. i think you're right about reality, but i think we should ask the question about conflict. in those examples given, the difference here is elon musk combines world's richest man with defense contractor, with the person that controls twitter or x. that's not something we've seen before. and the potential there for it to be a further constraint on the function of government, certainly he could be favored in the function of government with really big contracts -- >> i have no doubt he will be, right? >> yeah! and then the fact we already have great questions about how he's handling one of the major ways we communicate
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with twitter. this could be something that takes us to a different place. now, i do believe when people overreach and get that kind of power and influence, they tend to overreach. and when they overreach, the public reacts. the media looks into it, the rest of the political world looks into it, and the public does not like the misuse of power. so one, i don't want to say silver lining, but i think one reality here is it would be very surprising if elon musk and obviously donald trump and his team don't overreach in this environment. >> and he's someone who clearly bet big on trump, and it's paid off for him. i mean, to see the level of influence he's able to have in this because of how much he helped to get trump elected. and you know, obviously we've seen just how close they are. i've heard from some people who think america needs to win elon musk back to have him on their side. i'm not sure that's happening. but the other thing, as someone that's covered
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trump for eight years, there are often people very important and prominent in trump's orbit that sometimes have a falling out with him if they disagree. >> it happens. i've been there. >> what would that look like with someone as powerful and influential as elon musk? >> i'm looking at it from this perspective. elon musk is an innovative thinker, and i think that's a good thing approaching the second term of a trump presidency. there's some complicated things he'll have to address for the american people whether it's the economics, economic dislocation. we've seen major technological advancements and the implications on that on work. particularly among men. maybe elon musk can help advise the former president on making decisions helpful through the legislative process. i'm also looking at the foreign policy issue and having those outside individuals that musk could maybe bring to the president's table and also help as well. so i understand why people may be concerned. i would pause and say give the the former president the opportunity to see what the advise is and how
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does that advice in a positive aspect maybe help him lead and govern a little bit. >> i agree with you. >> you agree with me? >> all right, we can end at 11:11 p.m. >> history ending! >> i have a huge critique of elon musk. but i will say on artificial intelligence he's been a critical voice and raised a lot of real concerns about the kind of guardrails needed and reforms. so i would agree with the point that i'd actually be happy to see someone like that in the inner circle saying we need to make real policy changes. >> and let's not overstate, donald trump is making these picks. it's not like elon musk is deciding, but he has influence. but on the picks overall, what's been happening the last 48 hours is intense jockeying at mar-a-lago where everyone is trying to get either there word in of who they want picked or whatnot. mike pompeo was a result of that because someone did not want him picked, and they started showing trump what he said when he mildly criticized him on the classified
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documents. they talked about his contracts with ukrainian entities, and trump comes out and says i'm not hiring mike pompeo again. >> right. i'm not surprised at all. look, there was a saying in trump's first term that emerged over and over again. when you found someone was going into the white house, the saying was lawyer up. lawyer up. there have been no consequences for folks, you know, going in and being in trump's orbit. so i think there's a little less fear, so everyone wants the proximity to power. listen, for nikki haley and mike pompeo, it's a little special because he has a relationship with both of those two people. they aren't strangers to him. they were both inside already. mike pompeo is one thing. nikki haley didn't just represent nikki haley. she represented a voter who did not want donald trump to win. that's, that would be weird to have her, you know, in the orbit, in the inner circle. i get that. even though she was, she would have
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been my pick, she's representing voters that were deeply, deeply dismayed by donald trump. >> yeah, and also they'd replay her criticisms all the time. >> and they don't need that. >> of what came out calling him unhinged. one person in the republican primary, vivek ramaswamy who dropped out and took the opposite route of nikki haley and praised donald trump, vivek ramaswamy was asked about whether he has a future in a trump administration, and here's his answer. >> there's a couple great options on the stable. i want to have the biggest possible impact on this country. we're not going to sort that out in the press -- >> secretary of homeland security. >> but we're having high impact discussions. >> i don't know. >> that was subtle. >> they're not subtle about it. >> look, i mean, that's smart of him to not be particularly detailed about it, but it's self-promoting as per usual to make himself seem like someone in demand. but i think looking
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at the overall picture, here's a very interesting history with donald trump. the folks he brings in end up on the chopping block so often. i hate to make an apprentice analogy, but let's be clear. just look at jeff sessions and barr and all the folks that once upon a time were going to be the saviors. i met with donald trump ten days or so after the election in 2016 and he brings jeff sessions into the room as a guy that would be core -- >> oh, you were in there? >> yeah! >> go on! >> a little news. so the point is the warmth and the connection, and then when it's gone, it's really gone. now, in most operations in politics, republican or democrat, there is some knew call loyalty. people stick with a team for a long time because the leader is also loyal to their people. that's not so true with donald trump. so the interesting reality here is going to be people who are en vogue today may not be tomorrow, and that's why the chopping block
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happens. >> that's why people like tom cotten are taking himselfs out. >> and i want to say on the pompeo and haley thing, i've talked to a lot of people in the former president's orbit, and a lot of conservatives sort of view them as war hawks. we know donald trump has been skeptical of prolonged, expensive military conflicts conflicts involving ourselves for other countries, so he doesn't want to be involved with people who are pro-war. up next new details on trump's swing state as he's now swept all seven battlegrounds. harry is here to break down the numbers as we have now projected the president-elect has won arizona. we're still waiting tonight for key winners in the house and senate races. a huge battle for the republican senate leader is playing out. we'll tell you the state of that race ahead.
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tonight republicans are keeping a close eye on several outstanding house races hoping for control of washington just days after retaking the white house and senate. donald trump has officially won arizona bringing his final electoral college tally to 312. harry is here to take us inside the numbers. obviously with arizona
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capturing this, it just solidifies what a strong night tuesday night was for donald trump. >> what a strong night. you know, there's one way i think you could sort of get an idea of how strong it was a night for donald trump. let's look at the states where he out performed in 2020, and guess what, let's pull it back up. look at this. it's every single state where he out performed his 2020 performance. i went back through the record books, and i looked at every single election dating back since 1976 when did a party's candidate do better than the prior candidate for that same party in the last election. it's the first time since jimmy carter in 1976 where they out performed in every state plus the district of columbia. but there's another way to get an idea of how wide his win was. 312 electoral votes. let's go all the way back to 2016. that year he got 306 if
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you tally up the states he won when they gathered the electoral college. he won in states containing 306 electoral college votes. the last time a republican won that many you have to go back to 1980 and george h. w. bush won over 400 electoral votes. so it was an absolutely mammoth win for donald trump. he put in a stronger performance than any republican since george h. w. bush. >> which only makes what's happening in the arizona senate race even more remarkable because it's still between kari lake and ruben gallego. yes, arizona is one of the two races not called. gallego is up with 88% of the vote. if you asked me a few days ago, lake was closing, but gallego has spread out the lead a little more. he's up by a little more
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than 51,000 votes. what a difference between lake at 48.1%, and donald trump in the same state, look at that, if we were in fact, let's zoom out a little bit and put the percentage on. there we go. and she's at 52.5%. look at that. that's just such a difference between the senate race and the presidential race. and that's something we've seen across the political map where if, you know, let's say go to wisconsin. here's another state where donald trump, 49.6% wins the state, but you go to the senate race, and what happens? we've called the race for tammy baldwin. same in michigan where slotkin won, but donald trump won in that state. so republicans are underperforming donald trump in the key swing states. the coat tails, turns out, weren't exactly that long. >> yeah, it's interesting. i think mitch mcconnell would argue some of those candidate quality. obviously they put no money in arizona. but the senate race uncalled is also
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what's happening in pennsylvania. i saw a lot of republican senators today on twitter complaining that the republican candidate dave mccormick won't be able to come to washington to get briefings soon because it hasn't been called and bob casey, the incumbent democrat hasn't conceded. so what's going on? >> we see the republican has a clear lead. bob casey at 48.4%. the lead right now is a little over 40,000 votes. a few reasons the race hasn't been called is one, in pennsylvania, as long as the race is within half a percentage point, it means an automatic recount. we're right on the edge of that. and you go down to philadelphia, a slew of democratic votes, there's still only 92% of the vote in. so i think we're waiting to see if the race actually ends up within half a point. >> harry, thank you for that. up next, he's promised to make the economy great again. the question is how. one of my next guests is suggesting that the president-elect would do so
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by just going to play golf on day one. she'll explain next.
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donald trump won back the white house on a promise to lower prices, and he's about to walk into office with low unemployment and a growing economy. but neither of those facts could overcome how voters felt about it when they went to the voting booth on tuesday. >> the number one issue in this county is the economy. >> inflation, the economy. >> exit polls show about two-thirds of voters felt like
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those people did, describing the economy as not so good to poor. joining me now is political commentator and washington post opinion columnist katherine rampell and financial times columnist ronna. katherine, you're making the argument that trump doesn't have to do anything to lower prices once he's in office. tell me what you mean by that? >> well, no one is going to lower prices to be clear. the best we can hope for is prices don't continue to grow. so i think the best outcome is trump does nothing at all. he just goes out and plays golf. >> in so many ways. >> you're right. that's also true. but in terms, in terms of economic outcomes, you know, the economy is already doing well, as you pointed out. low unemployment, robust gdp growth, inflation has cooled a lot. grocery prices are close to flat. only one like 1%. i know people are still feeling the hangover from price increases in 2022 and 2023. i
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get why people are frustrated by that. but in terms of where the economy is now, the economy trump is inheriting is quite good. and all of the policies that he has laid out, whether we're talking about global tariffs, mass deportations, politicizing the fed, huge unfunded tax cuts, all of those things would either be inflationary or crash the economy. so just take the win -- >> so even though he just ran on it being a terrible economy, he's actually inheriting a very, a pretty good economy when he's going into this. what happens if he does come in? because it's still a question of his day one pledges, if he actually fulfills them and how quickly. mass deportations, the tariffs he's threatened, what would the impact be on the voters that just said let's put him back in office because i trust him on the economy? >> yeah, it's incredible as katherine just laid out that we've had the best recovery in the rich world period in the last three years. so in a way, to me, the risk is actually
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he's going to push an already good economy into overheating. and i think you can already see some of the hand writing on the wall for that. so one being thing is right after the election, the markets didn't actually believe he'd do what he said which was protect u.s. manufacturing jobs and put tariffs and be protectionists. it thought hey, tax cuts? we're going back to the 19th century, it's going to be oligarchs running the economy, it's going to be a free for all. we'll use debt and deficit to bolster prices so the market went up. we're six years overdue for a recession if you discount the covid blip. so i'm worried that trump is actually going to push us into potentially a little bit more froth. there will be an m and a boom because
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he'll get rid of antitrust policies in the biden administration. we'll get a sugar high briefly, but then i think it's possible you get a market crash at the same time debt is rising and u.s. borrowing costs go up a lot. so bad scenario potentially in a year to two and a half years. >> in that situation, what this looks like as someone is making picks when it comes to treasury secretary and sec chair, these are ways he's looking to shape how it will look like his second time around. steve mnuchin was actually the longest surviving cabinet member that remained all four years. what do you make of that? >> well, steve mnuchin, i disagree with him on a lot of things, but he was a moderating force. >> it's all relative. >> well, for example, trump
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kept threatening to fire his own fed chair jerome powell when powell was either not cutting rates or blaming rates. >> and i think he blamed steve mnuchin for picking him. >> and mnuchin talked him out of firing him which would have possible set off a global financial crisis. the idea of the fed suddenly becoming no longer credible and the money supply would be put in the hands of politicians would be very traumatic for financial markets because we've seen similar outcomes in venezuela, argentina. and i will point out that one of trump's preferred treasury picks, and we don't know, he hasn't announced it yet, but one is one of the people who would really like to politicize the fed. >> yeah, what about trump's pledge, no taxes on tips and
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overtime? those are two very popular policies he just out flanked democrats on in the election. >> classic sort of republicans being good on messaging, democrats being good on policy. i mean, it's irrelevant no tax on tips from an economic standpoint. the amount of people at the lower end of the socio economic spectrum is about 5%, so it's not a lot of money you're talking about. it's not actually going to make a difference in the federal balance sheet and not make too much of a difference in people's lives because most people earning money from tips in the service sector are making so little money they're paying almost no tax anyway. it's just, it was a meme, an economic meme policy rather than something that's real. >> thank you both. great to have you as we continue to watch the impact. also tonight, all eyes turning to a fierce fight that's happening in the senate. there's a secret ballot election looming in the next few days to determine
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who's going to replace mitch mcconnell as the republican majority leader. what president-elect trump is demanding tonight and their response.
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the secret vote on wednesday to decide who will become the most powerful republican in the united states senate is leading to a not so secret battle that's playing out right before us all tonight
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over who's going to replace senator mitch mcconnell as the gop's leader. the three names vying for the coveted jobs are the ones you see here.ors thun, cornyn, and scott. whoever gets it could have to follow president trump's new mandate tonight to fast track his cabinet nominations and block joe biden from nominating more judges in office. quickly after trump made the demands on social media, all three candidates agreed to use recess appointments as a way around senate approval. joining me now is michael tackett, the author of mitch mcconnell's new biography the price of power. i want to talk about the book because it's a fascinating look at mitch mcconnell's role in the senate, but on this race to replace him tonight, you know, you saw rick scott quickly coming out saying he 100% agrees with trump and he'll do whatever it takes it
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to his nominations through. from your perspective, i'm wondering how clear it is the deference to trump will be required for whoever takes mcconnell's spot? >> it's becoming very clear, and it's also clear with outside validaters like elon musk and tucker carlson. it's an exclusive club made up of self-made people that don't need the validation of other people, and here you have outside forces trying to shape an inside election. >> and when you look at that, it's very clearly working because they're all coming out and saying they agreed to this. i'm not sure anyone envisioned they'll all emphatically endorse this. what does mitch mcconnell make of this playing out on social media? >> he believes in co-equal branches of government and separation of power, though
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i'll doubt he'll say much publicly because he knows if he put his thumb on the scale for one candidate or the other, it might actually backfire. i expect he'll stay quiet until the election himself. >> i would almost guarantee trump would almost pick that person. and your back is full of mcconnell very critical of trump and the state of republican party. he told you at one point the maga movement was quote completely wrong. he said reagan wouldn't recognize the party as it was today. i wonder in hindsight after tuesday how that has changed for him. >> well, i don't think he's changed his mind. we're in a position where we'll see what happens. all the norms we thought existed have obviously been shattered. he's in a position where he's ceding power he's held for 17 years. in some ways i think he's relieved because it's a very difficult job. you're often the subject of ridicule and rarely the subject of praise. so he'll be stepping to the
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sidelines. >> yeah, certainly for him. and with trump demanding about the judicial nominations saying he doesn't want democrats to be able to confirm any over the next two months until trump takes office, but obviously trump and mcconnell pushed through many of their own nominees in the same time frame after trump lost the 2020 election including judge cannon. she was one of those confirmed in the period after trump lost and before biden took office. do you think senate republicans will follow through on that? >> i'm not really sure how they'd stop it. they don't really have the numbers to do so, and democrats are certainly within their rights to do it. as you noted, both parties did it. it's really a state of play. >> yeah, michael it's an excellent book on the inner workings and some amazing stories from mcconnell. thank you very much for your time tonight. >> thank you for having me. up next, ukraine has
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launched its biggest attack on moscow yet. what this war could look like, a big question tonight, when trump is back in office. that's ahead.
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ukraine has just launched its biggest attack on moscow since the start of the war with the russian ministry of defense saying a total of 34 drones were launched saturday night in the direction of the russian capital. that attack
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demonstrate it is precarious moment in this war as donald trump is preparing to take office. in the eastern region of ukraine, russian forces had been making gains, and as many as 10,000 north koreans troops have bolstered the kremlin forces, and american officials are telling us they expect them to enter combat soon. this week ukraine says it launched an attack on a russian chemical plant. and stepping into all this turmoil as we see critically what's going to happen next is going to be donald trump whose eldest son is offering this message to world leaders. >> everyone understands that, you know, daddy is home, and they've got to start behaving accordingly. it's really incredible to watch the world fall in line. >> i'm joined tonight by military analyst and retired air force colonel cedric layton. i want to get your lay of the land in ukraine right
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now, especially with the 10,000 north korean forces, it could be even more than that, and how you expect they're looking at this over the next few months before trump is in office. >> yeah, it's great to be with you. the big thing about the north koreans is that their presence could expand quite a bit. so if you have 10,000 now basically in theater as we say, there's a possibility of a total of 100,000 coming in over the next of the next year. so if that's the case, that could definitely tip the balance in favor of the russian forces as they maneuver around ukraine. so that could basically back fill the russians lost to being wounded or killed in ukraine. and it could also cement the
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relationship between north korea and russia even further. so this is a major development that could impact the course of the war. >> yeah, what's happening on the battleground, but also here in the u.s. when it comes to politics around supporting ukraine. and you know, trump is someone who's never visited, you know, ukraine, kyiv during the war like we've seen other world leaders do. and certainly president biden went as you know as well. i was there last february talking to zelenskyy about trump, and he was saying he should come and see this for himself to understand what it's like here. i wonder how he's viewing this likely right now knowing that someone who's pledged to under the war in one day is about to take office. >> i think for president zelenskyy this is a very challenging moment. it's interesting to note that when president zelenskyy spoke with president-elect trump, trump went to elon musk on the line, and in some ways that could be
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a good thing because it allows everything to, in essence talk the same language in the same moment in time when discussing this. so if it does have benefits for zelenskyy action it could be that at least it gives trump a bit of pause because if he withdraws from ukraine, withdraws u.s. support from ukraine, that could in essence show weakness in the u.s. position, and i don't think trump wants to show weakness. so this is a dilemma trump has. he has the campaign rhetoric on one side, but on the other side the possibility of flagging weakness to the russians and others around the world. >> yeah, it's going to be a fascinating situation to see how he handles it once he does have the oval office back in his hands. colonel, thank you as always for your expertise. >> you bet. and as tonight we are awaiting more hiring picks from the president-elect for his new white house team, we'll talk to one of the ones from the
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former time that survived only 11 days about potential chaos and what it's like to work inside donald trump's west wing.
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who are familiar faces from his first term. i'm hearing tonight that in the coming days, donald trump is expected to announce that he is bringing back tom homan. he was the acting director of immigrations and customs enforcement previously for trump. he's now expected to serve in a czar-like role, though the details are still being finalized. that could change according to my sources. homan has defended the family separation policy put in place when donald trump was first in office and also recently argued when he was asked about trump's plan for mass deportations that time around that quote, families could be deported together. homan, you'll remember, spoke at the republican convention in july. >> every president i've worked for said they're going to secure the border. president trump actually did it. >> i got a message to the millions of illegal aliens that joe biden released in our country in violationf