. you are hired. president-elect donald trump's transition team is taking shape. as he crosses out some familiar names, replacing them with new ones, trump's choices are giving us a preview of what he's planning for his return to the white house. plus, an ultimatum. trump says any republican aspiring to leave the senate must agree to his controversial plan for appointing administration officials during a recess. and the kremlin prepares for a huge counterattack on ukrainian troops in russia. tens of thousands of soldiers including north korean forces amassing ahead of the

assault. we're following these major developing stories and many more, all coming in right here to cnn news central. the trump transition is well underway with the president-elect moving quickly to staff key positions in his new administration. just a short time ago, cnn learned trump plans to announce his top immigration adviser stephen miller as white house deputy chief of staff for policy. trump had already picked his border czar, tapg todd holman for the job and he's nominated other lease stefanic to the united nations. and we're learning that it has become ground zero among loyalists vying for top spots. cnn is live for us in west palm beach. i want to talk about those discussions happening where you are in west palm

beach. first, let's talk about stephen miller and what role he will fulfill in this new administration. >> reporter: that's right. we record earlier today that donald trump in the coming days is expected to name stephen miller as his deputy chief of staff for policy. and look, i am told that miller, who already had a lot of influence in donald trump's first term, is expected to have a much more expanded role this time around. i think they're still working out the details over what exactly his portfolio will look like but you can assume, and expect, that stephen miller will have a very big role in what comes next. particularly when it come to immigration policy. now, there's no secret that stephen miller has long been a very hard line immigration adviser to donald trump. he's encouraged a lot of his instincts including on the campaign trail. and he's been the lead architect

behind the scenes of the incoming trump administration's plans for this mass deportation of undocumented migrants. i think one thing to keep in mind is how loyal stephen miller has remained to donald trump, particularly when you remember that in the aftermath and donald trump's departure from the white house in 2021 after the january 6th attack on the capitol when a lot of people sought to distance themselves from the former president, miller did not. he stayed by his side. in the years after, he launched his own outside policy group, america first legal, where he helped prosecute a lot of cases and issue a lot of lawsuits against democrats. i think all of that is good to keep in mind as you anticipate what he will be doing. i know we have some video of some of the things that stephen miller has said over the years. i want you to take a listen to that. >> america is for americans and americans only. >> you have two

policy objectives that you proceed with. utter determination on. seal the border. no illegal goes in. everyone here goes out. that's very straightforward. you would establish a large-scale grounds so you grab illegal immigrants and move them to the staging grounds and that's where federal law enforcement will move them home. you deputize the national guard to carry out immigration enforcement. >> reporter: now, boris, clearly as you can hear there, there is no secret again that steven miller has very hardline immigration views and will continue to lead a lot of the policy on that. i'm told that as we see the rest of donald trump's cabinet taking shape, a lot of the immigration policy is going to be coming from inside the white house. and you can imagine that miller will be the lead on a lot of that. boris? >> reporting not far from mar-a-lago. thank you so much. we're joined now by priscilla

alvarez. trump has repeatedly vowed to deport millions of undocumented immigrants. what more are we learning about this new border czar? >> well, he has been a supporter of donald trump over the years, and yes, we often talk about him being the former i.c.e. director under donald trump. he was also at i.c.e. during the obama years. in fact, he was there when former president barack obama exceeded a record number of deportations. he's been at the center of deportations for some time which is quite telling. in addition to the white house being the power center for immigration policy, tom holman is a pick who is operationally savvy. he understands how the government works. he his has described how he thinks the operation should be done and he did so with 60

minutes. >> we have seen one estimate that says it would cost $88 billion to deport 1 million people a year. >> i don't know if that's accurate or not. >> is that what american taxpayers should expect? >> what price do you put on national security? is it worth it? >> is there a way to carry out mass deportation without separating families? >> of course there is. families can be deported together. >> now, on that, tom homan was an architect of family separation. he often thinks in a deterrence-minded type of way, by having harder deportation enforcement, the united states has tried it for years and it hasn't worked. that's an attempt they're trying to do. he said they'll be doing work site enforcement. that's something president biden discontinued in 2021. we may see what we've seen in multiple administrations.

the question is at what scale and that hasn't been answered yet. >> the other question that cbs was trying to ask, at what cost? thank you. >> so right now pro- immigration add cats are waiting when he retakes power. when we're told the trump administration's early focus will be removing undocumented immigrants who have committed crimes, advocates are concerned it may go further than that. rosa flores is with us on that. how are those advocates preparing? >> i've been talking to advocates and contacts on both sides of the border, from the pacific ocean to the gulf of mexico. and houston where i'm based. and i can tell you that there's a lot of fear in the community. and with the help of my here at cnn based in other cities, we're getting a sense of the interior

of the country. let me start south of the border where thousands of migrants are still waiting. advocates there tell me their fear is in two different buckets. first, that cbp won't have the app that they've used, that it might go away, and mass deportations. and advocates fear some migrant there's try to cross the border illegally before january 2025. now, across the border on the u.s. southern border, i've talked to advocates very fearful not just for the migrants but themselves. they, too, look like migrants but they are u.s. citizens. they are in fear and they are calling for dignity if the u.s. government indeed delivers on the promise by donald trump to execute these mass deportations. now, in arizona where a lot of militias have been patrols the border, there are concerns that this might embolden militias. they fear not just for the migrants but the volunteers themselves, who are u.s.

citizens. here in houston, one advocate organization telling me they've gotten call from people crying because they fear the separation of their families if they get caught in some sort of round-up. again, there is a call for their to be dignity if there are in fact mass deportations. in new york, organizations there, some of them are readjusting their missions to focus more on the challenge of mass deportation. in california, a state that relies on migrant organizations, they're calling for immigration reform. and then there is the national civil rights organizations like the aclu. they're preparing, too. but for the legal fight to go into court to defend the civil rights for his hispanics all over this country. >> rosa flores, thank you. joining us to discuss, a republican strategist who was the director of spanish language media for donald trump's 2020 campaign, and a

democratic strategist and cnn political commentator. maria, a preelection poll found 53% of registered latino voters favor trump's mass deportation plan. why do you think that is? what should democrats take from that? >> first, i don't really believe those numbers. but secondly, i think that as much as latinos focused on this election, they did not focus on mass deportation. they focused on the economy. they focused on high prices. they focused on housing prices. they focused on trying to have the ability to make ends meet for their families. in fact, in a lot of the exit polls that a lot of latinos have done, they asked latinos whether they believed donald trump would move forward with this and they said no. so this is going to mean massive cruelty. massive pain in our communities. i really don't think, not just

latinos. i don't think the american electorate understands what this will mean. if it actually happens. let's remember in 2017, when family separation happened, there was a huge outcry. you guys remember. those horrific images of kids being literally ripped from the arms of their parents. that'll will happen again. and it will be on steroids. so if this is what this administration, this new and coming administration wants to focus on, that is not the mandate they got. it is not a mandate for cruelty. it is not a mandate for pain. if that's what they're going to go for, i think they'll have a huge backlash. not just among the latinolatino but the public in general. >> so there is expressed doubt from latino voters for mass deportation and also among voters whether trump would carry out this policy. i'm wondering where you land on

this. >> i think if you look at the polls, it is very clear that immigration was one of the top issues. if you look at this new exit study that came out a couple days ago. immigration was cited as one of the top five issues for hispanics voting against kamala harris. so the polls no matter what favor a strong border policy. it's just common sense. we simply cannot have millions of people rolling around this country who have been unvetted. many have criminal backgrounds. i agree, most of them do just come here to work and they want a better life. we don't know that because we don't know who they are. so i do not anticipate any kind of major back lash to anyany of border enforcement. >> come on! you know better. you know so much better than what you are spouting right now. our community is going to go through pain. our community is going to go through cruelty. that is not what anyone voted

for. and in fact, i will tell the american electorate, if the administration, if the incoming trump administration goes through this, here's the people that they'll go after. they're going after your kids' classmates. they're going after your delivery guy. they're going after the people who take care of your kids. they'll go after the people who work in restaurants. they'll go after the business owners in your community. they'll go after the people who live and work and own the farmer's markets that you love going to on weekends. this will be a snap shot of incredible pain and cruelty and this is again, they tried to do a semblance of this in 2017 and we saw the back lash. so you know, i'm saying, if this is what you all think you have a mandate for, go for it. you're going to see veryvery and very horrifically the kind of back lash you're going to get. i don't think people voted for a cost of almost $100 billion that you all are going to spend

if in fact you are going to deport the 12 to 15 million, some people in your party think it is 20 million, undocumented immigrants that are here. go after the criminal. absolutely. in fact, that's what every administration has done. but can you actually tell me that trump's ceo friends are not going to go crazy when he goes after the undocumented immigrants who actually pick fruits and vegetables? they're going to say, what the hell are you doing with my work force? this is an administration that has no clue what is about to happen. they are clueless in terms of the real world effects of something like this. they are clueless in terms of real immigration policy and how it affects communities, and what the actual solutions are. you know very well that mass deportation is not a solve for immigration. we need a solve. the real solve for immigration is absolutely making sure that there's strong border security. but also have to expand --

that's not what this is. >> your chance to respond. >> yeah. i would say that the hispanic community is sick and tired, this is not specific to marie, a but sick and tired of pulling on our heartstrings. they've been pulled so hard we're sick and tired of people, so they can feel better at cocktail parties, saying that the murders of people like lincoln riley, though tragic, are just part of being a generous society. we're telling people loud and clear, you do not speak on our behalf. these hispanic groups, these are the same people that a couple years ago encouraged their party to call us latin x. they are the same people who lobbied joe biden to apologize -- >> not true. >> joe biden apologized for calling it an illegal immigrant.

a single hispanic was offended by that. they are way to the left of your average latino. we're not worried about pronouns. we're worried about prosperity. >> i do want to ask you about something he brought up in part because we talked a lot about the puerto rican vote in places like allen town, in pennsylvania, and places near orlando. communities that predominantly voted for donald trump. i mean, he built -- around allentown, he boosted his margin from last time. he flipped osceola county. yes. >> you get where i'm going. >> it didn't offend folks to the point they would change their vote. >> we have to be very clear here. there were absolutely growth -- there was growth in the percentages for donald trump. we have to conhe said the with

this. we have to do a deep dive. better messaging, messengers, the massive information and misinformation that went into our community was incredibly effective. i do give the trump campaign kudos for that. their lies worked for our community. and that is on us. so we have to fix that. but let's not actually tell an untruth which is that the majority of latinos voted for donald trump. they did not. neither the majority of latinos nor the majority of latinas voted for donald trump. that's absolutely not true. and frankly, the majority of puerto ricans also did not vote for donald trump. i concede. he flipped osceola and places in texas and he got way too much of slivers of percentages across the country for our comfort level. and we're going to do a deep dive on that and make sure to fix it. part of fixing that is to make sure misinformation and

lies and conspiracy theories do not go unanswered in a lot of the platforms. spanish language platforms and a lot of the other platforms where latinos receive their information. that's on us and we have to do better. but let's absolutely not tell the lie that the majority of latinos voted for donald trump. they absolutely did not. i can assure you they did not vote for the cruelty that is coming. for the pain that is coming. >> i didn't say a majority. i just said he ran up his number irrespective of the rhetoric that was coming. >> i agree with you. what he is trying to put out there, the majority of latinos voted for the trump agenda and they absolutely did not. >> our producers are telling us we're out of time. i want to give you a chance to respond to the idea that misinformation and disinformation persuaded the number to go for trump. >> i don't think that makes

any sense especially if you're trying to single it down to spanish language information. most of them are english dominant. so i think democrats can make up that excuse every couple of cycles to make themselves feel better but it's not the case. >> let's pick this conversation up another time in the future. appreciate you both. now to donald trump's new demand that any senators vying to be majority leader must support recess appointments for his nominees. >> this is a way to bypass congress and get appointees in place. right now they are senators john thune, john cornyn and rick scott. with us now, we have manu raju, chief correspondent inside politics sunday. what are you learning here, manu? >> yeah. these three senators are falling in line. remember, using recess appointments is a controversial thing. it bypasses the confirmation

processes. it short circuits everything. it takes the power away from senators. now that they've called for it, these republican senators are saying they're in favor of it. they're open to the idea as well. donald trump does hold some sway within the senate gop conference. and it is unclear whether trump will endorse ahead of wednesday's critical secret ballot leadership election that will occur then. the question is which of these senators that will be most effective in carrying out the trump agenda. each have positioned themselves to that extent. especially senator rick scott, someone who said he has been in line with donald trump all the way from the beginning. mo so than his two rivals for that post. one example is donald trump's false claims of saying the 2020 election was stolen. in fact, just before the election, right after the debate with kamala harris, when donald trump said that falsely, that 2020 election was stolen, i asked rick scott

about that claim and if he had any concerns with what trump was saying. >> he also continued to say the election was stolen in 2020. he doubled down on that. should he have said that? >> if you're the candidate, you get to do whatever you want. i've been clear that biden was the constitutionally elected president of the united states. >> you don't have any concern with him saying it in front of the entire world that the 2020 election was stolen? >> the candidate has the opportunity to talk about whatever they think is important to themselves and what they think is important to their voters. >> now, some influential types in maga world have said that scott should be the next senate majority leader, including people like elon musk. at the moment he has five public republican senators who are saying he should be the senate majority leader there. and many more who are quiet. this is a 53- senator -- potentially, 53 senators who will have a vote on

wednesday and many have not said how they will come down. that's what the betting is with senator john cornyn or john thune league the leading contenders. scott still very much the underdog. if trump tells them to vote a certain way, maybe they won't listen to him or maybe they will. no way to know. >> it's a good point. a secret ballot. thank you. still to come, while trump is in a race to fill positions, the biden position for key policies. meantime, vice president harris making her first public appearance since her concession speech as the campaign continues to dissect exactly what went wrong. we're back in just moments.

president biden commemorated veterans day with a visit to arlington national cemetery where he laid a wreath at the tomb of the unknown soldier and gave a speech saluting those who served. it is just the start of a consequential week for biden, because on wednesday, he welcomes president- elect donald trump to the white house. a meeting that come as biden is scrambling to protect his legacy and legislative achievements in the final ten weeks of his presidency. cnn's joins us live. what do we know about the president's plans? >> reporter: we know that the president had hoped for his be the legislative achievement that's pumped trillions of dollars into the infrastructure, manufacturing, and clean energy initiatives. we know that the administration is trying to get every single dollar out the door before january 20th that is legally allocated to be spent at this time. the president expressed some frustrations that these have taken so long to get off the ground but they'll do everything they can to achieve as much as they can between now and tend of january. the president is also focused

on filling dozens of open judicial positions with many of the appointments already having a nominee in place. there will be a challenge with the calendar. congress has a limited amount of time to finish this term and they have to figure out how to fund the government by this time next month, so that calendar will be very crowded. notwithstanding, the widespread frustration among the democratic party about how things went during the election. a senior administration official telling me that the best way to protect your legacy is to get your people elected. that, of course, did not happen. then there is, of course, the world stage. we know president biden wanted to have this meeting with president-elect trump before heading to south america to meet with world leaders. he's aware of the historic nature of the meeting on wednesday. i'm told his mindset going into it is still fluid. >> we will certainly be watching that meeting very closely. thank you so much.

vice president kamala harris joined president biden at arlington national cemetery today. it is her first official appearance since her lexicon session speech last wednesday and it comes amid new reporting that paints a critical picture of the harris campaign leadership team behind her failed run for president. a new article on notice examines, quote, what went wrong, with one official telling the outlet the campaign was broken since the beginning. juice minute wright is the political reporter who wrote that article and it is really that pulls back the curtain. i will say, broken from the beginning. there is also a surprise sort of broke that i think we weren't expecting. let's start with the fundraising problems. you write about this inability to get what was really needed. a mass amount of people to donate small amounts multiple times. >> we're talking about millions of people. they have over 25 million people on their subscriber list. it kind of breaks into multiple parts when we talk

about their finances. first they say there were a lot of commitments made when biden was still on the ticket to contracts for consultants, to tv reservations they felt they still had to carry out once the switch happened which was a lot of money. and also, the subscriber list, right? we reported in this piece that they burned over a million subscribers. out of the 25 million list, they called it natural turn. still, a million people who are not seeing fundraising messages and not seeing the messages to try to get to you volunteer. when they're making projections based off the big money the vice president was bringing in in july when that switch happened, a million people, that kind of shows, or that creates a dent in their financing. we reported that they had to revise their fundraising deadlines, their fundraising goals, ultimately missing the deadlines in september leading to the debt situation they have right now. >> you paint this picture of a

patch work of leaders within the campaign. the folks on board initially to run a biden campaign. there were a bunch of kind of obama- era hires. you talk about david plouffe. there were some saying he was trying to run kamala harris as a 2024 barack obama. >> yeah. his name has come up a lot in the aftermath of what went wrong. certainly people have their criticism of him inside and outside the campaign. i think if we back up and think about the genesis of this campaign. when biden was still on the ticket, when he announced he was running, it was really difficult to staff the senior roles. people didn't want to work for joe biden and they didn't want to move to wilmington. so therefore in key e pele years to junior to full ill i will. wasn't at the scale it needed to be to incorporate the enthusiasm and the inflow of cash and volunteers that harris brought when she switched the ticket. so then she didn't want these staffing stories that plagued her in the first two

years of office as vice president, so she brought in this new advisers like plouffe, like some other folks. but obviously, people had a lot of criticism for the way they planned the strategies and thought it was too much like 2008. >> and you also talk about how, they may have been blind- sided by issues they thought weren't motivating the electorate but it turns out they were. for instance, some of the issues with transgender americans, specifically trumps ads slamming harris for this. >> a lot of questions people have inside and outside the campaign about what their analytics team and their polling team was looking. a one instance we highlight is that their director of paid media is really facing a lot of pressure from both inside and outside the campaigns of democrats being like, hey, trump is running these anti- trans ads making her look unserious and we think they're having an impact and we should respond. what he told them was

they weren't having much of an effect. clearly now the trump campaign is saying that was one of their most effective messages to drive home the message that the vice president was not ready to be president. so obviously, there are a lot of questions about what their analysis was and their analytics were saying to get them to this place where democrats are really in disarray. >> it is a fascinating, well-reported read. thank you for being with us to it. as u.s. officials say russia has deployed tens of thousands of troops, including ones from north korea to carry out an assault in the kursk region, we have a live report next.

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official says russian and north korean forces are gearing up for battle to retake parts of the kursk region that ukraine invaded over the summer. that offensive could happen within days, and comes as ukraine and russia are launching a record number of drone strikes at each other. cnn's reporter is in moscow monitoring the latest. fred, what more are you learning? >> reporter: hi there, boris. this is our, u.s. officials are saying around 50,000 forces are up against. around 11,000 are north korean troops. now, the ukrainians have commented on this and they're saying, look, the north korean forces, they might not be directly at the front line in many places, but what that does is it frees up more russian troops to try to attack the ukrainians. nevertheless, the ukrainians have said there have been direct battles between ukrainian forces and north korean forces, and that there have been losses in those battles. certainly all of this significant. all of that involvement with the

north korean forces as well. one of the thing weaver heard from the russians in the past, they want to retake that territory in the kursk region. that is, of course, part of russia. but at the same time the russians are not in any rush to do so. they say for them the main battlefield is still in the east of ukraine where they have been making significant gains over the last couple of months. the russians are gearing up for a large- scale offensive there. we haven't heard any confirmation from moscow that there really is that large force that is gearing up there. the russians are saying they have already managed to retake some of that territory where the ukrainians have that incursion in august. at the same time the russians saying they will continue to fight to push the ukrainians off all their territory while at the same time, also prosecuting the massive offensive going on in the northeast of ukraine. boris? >> thank you so much for that update. stay with cnn. we'll take a quick break. we'll be right back.

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even before the election, a lot of folks were stressed out and banks the unknown. for many of you, those feelings haven't gone away. to cope, some people turn to what is called doom spending where they use their wallets to grapple with broader issues like politics and the economy. vanessa, why are so many people doom spending and tell us about the consequences here. >> well, more than half of americans say they feel like they're constantly receiving bad news online and that has impacted their spending, according to bank rate. what we're seeing is that showing up in doom spending. essentially, if you're not feeling good about the economy, you feel like maybe that home purchase that i was trying to make is so far out of reach, i'll spend in other ways to try to make me feel better. or if you're not feeling the results of the presidential election, you may spend a little bit to try to take your mind off

things. it's that dopamine hit that you're looking for to feel good again. experts are warning if you're constantly doing that, you may run into a little trouble. especially if you're putting it on credit cards. right now 50% of americans are feeling some sort of debt. there's more than $1 trillion in credit card debt in this country that is is a new record. and credit card delinquencies. those who did not make payments rose in the third quarter of this year, back to even higher than prepandemic levels. so some tips on this for people who might find that they are doom spending a little bit too much. re-evaluate your relationship with money. are you making purchases to fill an emotional void? or to cover some sort of other emotions that you may be feeling? also, get off the phone. stop doom scrolling. stop engaging with all the bad news out there. if you need to be on your phone, call a friend instead. and there are other ways to get this dopamine hit that you

might get through retail therapy. exercise classes, maybe hugging a dog or a cat. maybe even volunteer at an animal shelter. lots of pets there to make you feel good. it is really important to note if this is a one- off for people or something that you're doing that will really impact your bottom line. >> hug a dog or a cat. i love it. thank you so much. hug a monkey, not so much. more than a dozen monkeys are on the run. and making the most of their newfound freedom, swinging from the trees right near the research facility that they escaped from. wouldn't you? we'll have details on how they're being recaptured, next.

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there is monkey mayhem unfolding in south carolina. they have managed to capture a couple dozen of the primates that escaped last week but at least 25, rather, at least 18 are still on the loose. 25 have been captured. some have been spotted, as you can see in that footage, jumping back and forth near the facility they escaped from. let's talk about the situation with the renowned conservationist, ron. thank you for being with us. before we get into the challenges of rounding up these monkeys, i want to ask but this species in particular, beginning with the name which i am very nervous to say on television. >> yes. they are very, very common monkey. one of the most common primates used in research facilities. people are probably familiar to them. if you watch discovery

channel, animal planet, they show the troops that have taken over in india. when i was in india, they were running all over. i don't want people to panic and say oh, it will be monkey mayhem. it's not that bad. you just need to be very smart. >> smart how? give us some advice. >> well, understand, there are people that will look at the monkeys and say it's so cute. look at the little cute monkey. no. you have to look at the monkeys. with all due respect, you need to look at them as dirty little people that bite. keep your distance. you don't have to be locking all your windows and doors, these panic situations, like you've got some freddy kruger out on the loose. they're opportunists. if you leave a door open, they can walk in through a door or a window. they're adapted to eating almost anything and they're opportunists. if you leave garbage in your

garbage can with it open, they're going to come to that. don't think they'll look at you and think, oh, human, i'm going to get them now. having said that, they are frightened. they're frightened now. so a frightened primate can be a dangerous primate. don't try to corner them. >> i imagine that factors into the process of trying to capture them. they might feel cornered and do something like bite somebody. >> exactly. the best thing to do, leave it to the experts. these troops are very strong, social bonds which is probably why you're seeing them close to where they escaped from. they're communicating with each other. they're going, hey, where's alice? oh, alice is over there. the best way they can do this is try to set up some type of enclosure. next to the enclosure they're already in and try to bait them in slowly without trying to push them into it. it has to be the monkey's choice. if you think you can catch a monkey in a tree by you chasing it, that won't happen. >> could the monkeys

themselves be in any danger? these aren't just wild monkeys. they were in a research center and now they're out there. what kind of challenges are they facing? >> the biggest challenge they'll face is of course, getting hit by a car. dogs, any kind of large dog can go after them. in reality, these are incredibly adaptive animals. we've had them escape in india, purposefully released because they are wore shipped. the people cherish them. they'll department to finding food. they won't starve. that's not the case. the best bet is to get them to want to go back on their own to be with the rest. the fact the others have been resecured is your best advantage. try to set up some enclosureenclosure to them that we can bait them with their favorite food and then enclose them in that adjacent enclosure. you won't be able to chase them down. we've had monkeys escape in south florida that established their communities here. a different species but very similar in their behavior

and they've been living here for 50 years in ft. lauderdale. a troop of monkeys. just not going to be able to catch them. >> i've heard stories of them running into a super market, grabbing food and running back out. >> the key thing is don't try to catch them. don't try to corner them. certainly don't try to feed them. and never think they're cute. they may appear cute but they're not. >> a pub sub might do the trick. thank you so much for your time. appreciate it. >> always a pleasure. take care. >> so we are following breaking news out of indiana. the jury there has reached a verdict in the double murder trial, a case that has attracted nationwide attention. these are live pictures outside the courthouse. we're going to take a quick break and break down everything we know about the case and where things stand with the jury in a few minutes. stay with us.