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medicates for attorney general. where the republicans stand on him and the house ethics committee report they are asking to see on him. later, an important documentary on the drug that could promise far more than just weight loss it is proven to deliver. is it right for you? good evening, everyone. john berman here. we are expecting to hear from the president elect at mar-a-lago. we will begin with reports about him, and these three more. he would never, and he just did , as a donald trump would never put robert f kennedy jr., a vaccine skeptic and covid conspiracy theorist, in charge of the department of health and human services. just ask the cochair of his transition team. >> you are saying he would not be charge of the hhs class >> of course not. maybe the secretary. >> that was just two weeks ago. he would never! well, he just did. he just picked rfk jr. ,

not for the advisory role, but for the full monty. overseeing health, disease control, the fda, all of that and more. giving him the authority to do what he said he would let him do. >> i will let him go wild on health. i will let him go wild on the food here can going to let him go wild on medicines. >> kennedy is well known for backing the long debunked claim the child and the vaccines cause autism. he has also promoted covid conspiracy theories. >> covid-19, there is an argument that it is ethnically targeted. covid-19 -- certain races in disproportion. covid-19 is targeted to attack caucasians and black people.

>> so kennedy subsequently denied he had ever suggested that the covid virus was , quote, targeted to spare . instead he had claimed he meant to say the united states and other governments were developing, quote, ethically targeted for bio weapons. which is another conspiracy theory. he is also known for encounters with wildlife, whether it is cutting the head off the dead will and strapping it on to the family car, or a decade ago, picking up a bear cub carcass and intended to take it home to eat but then dumping it in new york central park instead when his day ran long. >> the bear was in my car and i didn't want to leave the bear in the car. that would have been bad. so then i thought, you know, at that time , this was a little bit of a redneck in me, there had been a series of bicycle accidents in new york and a couple of people got killed. it was every day. people had been badly injured .

every day it was in the press. i said, let's go put the bear in central park. >> yes, that was roseanne barr he was talking to there. anyone of the items we mentioned may have another point in history doomed any other nominee. but he is who donald trump wants . having delivered republicans to the senate he may have the club to get it. tulsa gabbard, as director of national intelligence, as said concerns about how he has echoed russian and syrian propaganda. and the defense secretary, displays lack of management experience running large organizations, of which dod is the largest . even matt gaetz as attorney general, who just left congress days ahead of an ethics committee report . and on all of that, here is what one sitting republican lawmaker told cnn. i had a horrible nightmare gaetz was appointed ag and i woke up and he was appointed as ag. there is literally not enough popcorn in america for these

confirmation hearings. clearly, a lot to get to today. concluding remarks shortly from the president elect. the sources katelyn collins is here to sort itself. katelyn, as always, you are way out in front of all of this. how did the president elect come to pick rfk jr. and what are the chances right now? >> after judging by the shock of yesterday's pics today was more like an expectation from trump world and the sources had been there. rfk jr. has been in palm beach basically nonstop since the election, since donald trump won. what was really clear, especially after the interview that i did with howard, where he very unequivocally said that rfk jr. would not be getting a cabinet position, that is kind of what may be led to today. because it caused a huge uproar actually internally and trump's orbit. >> so you did this. >> i do want to take any credit for this. but where people were upset that he, 10 days before the election, was bluntly

saying -- because it was too early. and rfk jr. himself was upset about it because he and trump had discussions about what he can do. trump had said he would let him go crazy on health policy. so it was pretty clear the writing was on the wall that rfk jr. was likely to get some. they talked about a health role, seeing that look like. but also, this is kind of another instance of trump basically during the senate to say, block my nominee. tell me i'm not going to do this. and he has put up the pick after pick the has caused a lot of skeptical republicans to say, let's wait and see how the confirmation hearing goes. what i have heard from trump, they fully expect all these pics to get confirmed. they are not putting these up as a false flag to then put someone who still controversial but less controversial up. they fully believe that all of these people should be confirmed by the u.s. senate. and they very well might. >> all of them, which would include matt gaetz. what have you learned new about how trump came to pick matt gaetz and how they plan to get them through

the confirmation process, which they now know is going to be tough and maybe getting tougher by the minute. >> if rfk was clear and the writing is on the wall, the opposite basically happened with the attorney general pick. i was talking to people around trump on monday night that said his name never came up as they were deciding who he was going to pick for attorney general. but i reported that night, trump wasn't happy with any of his choices. he essentially brought these more conventional candidates. he interviewed a lot of them at mar-a-lago. no one checked all the boxes. obviously, it's the position he cares about the most and the federal government besides his. he basically was unhappy and flew with matt gaetz to washington the next morning and it was a very quick decision. shocked people back, stayed back at mar-a-lago actually, and were not part of that contingency of people that went to washington. that just speaks to how quickly he has made these decisions. sometimes a gut decision. also, that is fully the candidate that he believes should be there pursuing his agenda and fulfilling it. obviously once a

purge of career staffers at the justice department. and he wants retribution carried out against his political opponents. >> we'll have more the confirmation process which doesn't appear to be getting any easier day by day. other pics were announced today, katelyn. and you jumped out? of know, some of donald trump's private attorneys getting picked for the justice department. >> in a different world, joe biden was president-elect and he picked his personal defense attorneys , to be the number two at the justice department, which is what trump did today by picking his lead defense attorney, who has defended him in many cases. most notably, in the criminal hush money case here in new york. he has been picked by the deputy attorney general. in a normal world that might cause uproar. but because of the other pics, like the ag pick, it's not really causing any consternation from senate republicans. todd mikey confirmed pretty easily. but he has also picked his other attorney at the trial as the principal deputy attorney general. his deputy right

there, they do a lot of the work at the doj. and also john sauer, who you may remember argue trumps immunity in front of the supreme court. he is going to be picked as the solicitor general. as the number three job at this justice department. it's not just one attorney or two attorneys. it is three trump attorneys that are not being tapped. they have much different qualifications and they may be just finding the confirmation. we will see what happens there. but it does speak to the moment that we are in. he picks his defense attorneys and no one really says anything pick >> they actually do have expenses big time. it is worth noting. >> todd blanche worked as a federal prosecutor in the southern district of new york. and obviously a steep litigation as well. >> we will see at the top of the hour. thank you for being here tonight. now to talk about this nomination or this proposed domination. kathleen, who served as secretary in the obama administration. before

that she was governor of kansas. also -- is robert kennedy qualified for this job? >> i would say no. you know, he has no organizational management experience and the hhs is one of the largest domestic organizations. over 83,000 employees at $1.7 trillion budget. he has never worked directly with congress or a legislative body. many of the previous secretaries, republicans and democrats, have been governors. and worked very closely with hhs. hhs sends more money to states and all of the other domestic agencies combined. as he said at the top, john, it's responsible for the public health of the country, leading the public health in the world, the gold standard for research . about a third of americans , health

insurance with medicare, medicaid and the marketplaces, and mental health. agency on aging, agencies on unaccompanied minors, children and families. it is a very broad and very important agency. but to have someone coming into a scientific agency that is a vaccine skeptic and may well undo decades of public health work , i think it's terrifying for the american public who rely on hhs. from cradle to grave, for resources for information, for public health or oversight of our food and medicines. that , to me, is a very frightening aspect for the american public. >> you had encounters with robert f kennedy in the past. >> i took some courtesy meetings with him. he went,

several times, to the cdc and fda, suggesting that their evidence is faulty , that he had evidence of his own, all of which was debunked and refuted about vaccines. he insisted that i fire people , that they were lying to me, that i really wasn't getting the truth . did not prove, in my mind, to be at all true. what i most frightened about is that he comes not with a query, not with suggesting that we should look at two different points of view . he has made a determination, with no scientific background . as far as i can determine, no evidence that actually supports his views . and he's very willing to assert them as if they are fact. that's very dangerous in an agency where people take the recommendations of the experts and try to follow them to keep themselves and their families safe and secure. >> given everything that the secretary of hhs overseas, one of the impacts possible of the

views that we know he holds? >> it's almost too big to fathom. we talk about cdc, fda , and as the secretaries talk about, medicare and medicaid , it is just about every health decision is made in this country. i think the vaccine issue is what gets a lot of attention and i think rightfully so. a lot of times, we have preventative health, if nothing happens, that's good. but that doesn't get a lot of attention. if you are a child born between 1994 and 2023 , got vaccinated, about 1 million deaths that were prevented because of vaccines. we are seeing a distrust and vaccines. we are starting to see surges in vaccine preventable diseases again. that's one of the big ones. just talk about, okay, i'm going to reimburse for these things in medicare. or no longer think those things should be reimbursed. for whatever reason. people will

start getting denied care as well. elder people, people and medicaid, whatever it might be. so there's all these ripple effects potentially from his. if he gets this position. if he does , i think it's a huge consequence. >> secretary, what guardrails are in place at hhs if he does get it? >> anybody that comes into one of these major agencies relies on the expertise of the incredible talent of government officials who have made a choice that they are not going to be paid at market value in the private sector. they are dedicated to the mission of the agency. the guardrails, in large part, are the people that were there and the expertise that they bring to the job. because no secretary could ever manage one of these agencies, much less 11 agency simultaneously. bobby kennedy has already declared that he intends to start firing people. pack your bags if you don't

share his views on various things was part of his rhetoric on the campaign trail. that's a terrifying way to go into a department where you really don't know the people. you don't know the assets. you don't know the impact that they are going to have. if people began leaving the ski agencies , leaving the fda, which is responsible for safety and effectiveness of drugs , leaving medicare and medicaid services, leaving nih because the research . leaving our major public health agencies. then the guardrails are down. the secretary also has a lot of influence about who will had those agencies. so he can make recommendations about secondary leaders in the department. >> what are you hearing from people inside of the medical community? >> it's interesting, john. the medical community is not monolithic. you never hear them being in lockstep on anything. but with regard to this, they

pretty much are. especially when it comes to public health. the challenge, i think, when he talks about making america healthy again, people are really going to get behind that. healthy food is great. we spend foreign $.5 trillion on healthcare. and we have some of the worst outcomes in the developed world. that's a problem. he's not the first person to say that, by the way. people have been talking about this for some time. but the idea that maybe can draw more attention to it, that is something that i think has significant support. the problem with him sort of contorting these links and causation said to true cause and effect sort of relationships , vaccines, autism, whatever it might be, that's the problem. and how much that extends into other decisions he makes, that's where the real concern comes. >> we will see you again in a little bit. we really appreciate it. is ozempic right for you? sunday night at 8:00 eastern , 7:00 pacific. right here. the president elect

speaking momentarily from mar-a-lago.

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as we wait for the president elect to speak at mar-a-lago we are talking about his recent appointments, the controversy surrounding them, and the potential confirmation challenges some a phase, even in the republican-controlled senate. most notably, matt gaetz as attorney general and robert f kennedy as health and human services. a democrat from delaware, who sits on the judiciary committee center, i want to focus on the matt gaetz prospective nomination. how important is it for the judiciary committee to see the house ethics support on gaetz. do you have any recourse to get it if the committee does want to turn it over? >> well i think it's critical. every major nominee who comes before us, we get a thorough background report. someone like congressman matt gaetz, who has been the subject of the searching house ethics committee probe , we should get access to the documents and the report that was about to be released. he has just resigned from the house in order to

prevent the release of the house ethics committee report. i have joined all the other democrats on the senate judiciary committee and sending a letter to the house ethics committee , asking them to preserve the documents and send the report to us. several republicans, including the senator of texas have also said that they think we should have access to those documents. this is a critical test, john, for whether or not the senate will continue to use its advice and consent power that is in the constitution and is critical to our role as a guardrail. when president-elect trump won a significant national election , he gets a mandate to choose the folks he wants for his cabinet. but the way our constitution is written, the senate has a role to make sure that he doesn't just pick any old person , that he doesn't put the my pillow guy in charge of the faa. but that the people who are nominated are qualified, experienced, have the right

character and ethics, and have policy views that broadly align with what we can all agree is in the best interest of the country. >> so senator blumenthal, your democratic cauley, says he personally knows 5 to 10 republican senators were seriously considering voting against gaetz. does that sound accurate to you? >> have spoken with a number of republican colleagues who were gravely concerned or alarmed about why matt gaetz was nominated and about his qualifications. our challenge in coming days will be the gap between feeling concerned, expressing concern, and actually being willing to demand a confirmation hearing and to vote against one of president elect trump's nominees. that's the real test for the senate. >> what about the possibility of an end run? maybe through a recess appointment. tonight on fox the incoming senate leader john thune said it would depend on whether democrats want to play ball or not. how would you determine that? >> here is what i hope senator

means by that. there are nominees, like senator marco rubio, who has been nominated to be secretary of state, who i think will do very well in a confirmation hearing have the requisite experience and qualifications who served come in his case, he served on the foreign relations committee and the intelligence committee for many years. he knows and understands the function of the state department . we may have significant differences in policy . i don't think there's a question they could be secretary of state. and i think you'll get a prompt , respectful and appropriate confirmation hearing. if what senator thune means is that he will use recess appointments to jam into place nominees who can't get 50 votes in the senate, that's not good for the future and health of the senate. but i will remind you, in the the next senate, there will likely be 53 republicans. so for president trump can't

get 50 votes out of 53 republicans, that should say something about who he's considering nominating. >> we appreciate your time tonight. thanks so much. i should note that we have seen donald trump at mar-a-lago. i can't quite make them out there. he is there somewhere at mar-a-lago. you can see when the lights come up a little bit. he's there, he's preparing to speak to a room full of supporters very shortly. we will bring you that speech as soon as it begins. at kinsinger, anna navarro, congressman, i want to start with you. this house ethics committee report , which is completed as far as we know, we actually just learned tonight that the republicans and democrats were supposed to be on the ethics committee on friday to talk about it. that meeting has now been canceled. do you think we will see it? and what impact do you think it would have on the possible senate confirmation? >> i think we are going to see

it. i think the pressure is going to be too great. by the way, let's just be clear, if all of the shoes were on the other foot the republicans would be screaming about transparency. so let's be clear about that. this is a guy, if matt gaetz was just going away , i think you can make an argument for he is out of the house, don't really sit. but now that he is up for attorney general, the number one law enforcement position in this country. and he's being accused of sexual assault or statutory . and supposedly this person is after testified that happened. that is something the american people deserve to know, absolutely. i think it will torpedo. it will deep sixes nominee in rp. i don't think he gets through that. my concern is that the president tries to do a recess appointment and that would give 210 days of a big middle finger to the american people. to trump, this is all a joke right now. >> joe, what should the ethics report have on senators voting? on the next attorney general.

>> look, ever seen a person that has been confirmed to be attorney general , people that are going into the cabinet, they get extensive background checks. so on some basic level , whether it is simply for the ethics report to be given to the senators for them to review, or whether it's going to be forcing the senate for their own internal investigation. at some point we are going to end up with some type of fact-finding mission. ultimately, the president of the united states has the right to nominate who he chooses. we do have advice and consent for the senate. i think you have to preserve that. if you're going to be fighting to preserve the filibuster, if you're going to be fighting to preserve the electoral college, these institutional norms that have kept the guardrails on society from the beginning of time. i think you have to continue that. president trump has a mandate but there are still limits to those mandates as well. >> you may have lost her opportunity to serve the trump cabinet there. coming out against the recess appointments. at least to jam through some of these

nominations. and republican senators. how willing are they to stand up to the president, and on what exactly? >> yet to be seen. right? how often have we heard about , oh, republican senators, republicans in congress say privately . and then they do it something completely differently, publicly. and this is after trump just won this pretty sizable victory . i think what you are seeing is a donald trump who feels empowered and who feels that he has -- this is the idea of having the majority of the senate, the majority of the house, having won the way he won. he's got immunity from the supreme court. that tells them he doesn't have to think about whether these people can get confirmed or not. he's counting on them getting confirmed because he's counting on the republicans in the senate being on his leash. >> tulsa gabbard. someone who's a little lost in the

shuffle over the last day with the matt gaetz appointment and naming of it. we will take that momentarily. what questions you have about tulsa gabbard running the entire intelligence apparatus of the country? >> look, this and gaetz are the two bad nominations. there's other ones. but look, she is very pro--- who is committing genocide against his people. the only congressman to go visit . she's been very defensive of russia. she actually , when japan gave aid to ukraine, she basically reminded americans that japan attacked us to start world war ii. out of nowhere. it's very concerning. there's a lot of people that have real questions about the relationship she has with russia. i don't know. but putting somebody like that in charge of all of america's secrets, it's a deep concern. if we want to play this game, if government is a game it is just like, let's put people

that make the left matt in government, that's fine. it's a presidents prerogative to do it the american people are not going to be very happy about that in the long run. >> i think scott jennings said to me , they are due after the election. this is so different in 2016 when there were people that were hesitant to join the cabinet. trump to get anyone he wants basically , who center or right of center to serve in this cabinet. the most qualified people with the largest experience in any subject he wants. but he picks tulsa gabbard, matt gaetz and robert kennedy. >> i think the reality is that president trump has the right to pick who he wants to pick. there's also the tenure of disrespect that extends to these nominees that i think would not be any way except that if it were the other way around. >> thank you. he doesn't do that stuff. he did a beautiful job. i want to thank you and john voigt for being here. john, some great fight movies.

schley has a lot of them . what a movie that was. right? i want to thank everybody for being here. he no , her husband at the time , when they built mar-a-lago many years ago, the roaring 20s, it was the roaring 20s. hotter right now than they ever were in the roaring 20s i believe. we are going to keep going. we are not going to have 1929 happen . although, if it would have continued the way it was, it might not have been too good. when they built it nobody knew what was going on. nobody knew opulence. nobody knew real luxury , poverty, they did know anything. they learned a hard lesson in 1929. they learned a very , very hard lesson. and we are going to turn our country around. we are going to make it so great, so strong, so powerful. we are going to bring it all back. i want to think some people that have been so instrumental in doing such a

great job in terms of not only policy, people of them, brooke put this on with linda mcmahon. linda has been a great friend of mine for a long time. right, linda? i want to thank you very much with the american first policy institute. what a job they have done. the policy is much more important if we do it for eight years and if we do it for four years. i said, let's do this. to worry about your policy. let's get out and win the election. but nobody knew we were going to win it to the way we won. that was a big one. that was really great. javier, i would like to congratulate you on the job you have done. your speech was beautiful. but the job you've done is incredible. make argentina great again. and you know, he's doing that. he's actually doing it. just happens to work . that one, we for you.

it doesn't work so well with other countries. i think your numbers are working also. you've done a fantastic job in a very short period of time. it's an honor to have you here. it's really great. thank you. also, speaker mike johnson, wherever you may be in this very big and crowded room, thank you, mike. i went yesterday . in case i said, look, i want to tell you i'm behind this man 100%. he got 100% of the vote for republicans. are you sure? you are sure . he's done a great job. nothing easy. we had a majority of one. that was not pretty. right? and you handled it dutifully. he just kept that stiff upper lip . he's doing a really good job and that was a great vote that you had yesterday. totally unanimous vote congratulations. that's beautiful. members of congress , all of whom voted for mike .

they've been my friends. it's just a small group. we have a lot of them outside. we have a lot of them coming over the weekend. where is byron? what a star. what a star. thank you, byron. ronnie jackson, dr. ronnie. he's been a lot of things. he was my doctor. he was a great admiral only you know. highly respected admiral. great doctor. white house . now he's a very popular congressman. he won by 40 points. that's pretty good. of course it was a very trump district. when he was a doctor they asked him a question on the thickness, which is here, look, that's a lot. that's a lot. we invited him and they said, can we come in? i said, we have nothing to hide his republicans. right? we have nothing to hide. but they asked ronnie, the doctor, he was up in the podium. who is the healthiest? because he was the doctor for barack obama. donald trump. and he was the doctor

for bush also. they said, was the healthiest of them all? he said, without question, it's donald trump. and i said, i like that guy. i said, i like that guy. and he's doing great. jason smith is here. wesley hunt. we just nominated him. he's going to be doing a great job in the administration. and i promised mike that it would be taking too many more before we start counting the votes. okay? he said, please, could you slow down a little bit? i just like the people in congress, mike. i'm sorry. don't worry about it. just relax. just relax. we have a man who is a seriously high iq. you know, i'm a person that believes in high iq. is about as high as they get. he launched a lot rocket three weeks ago and then he went to pennsylvania to campaign because he considered this more important than launching rockets that cost

billions of dollars. elon musk. elon. what a job. what a job he does. and he happens to be really good guy. you know, he likes this place. i can't get him out of here. he just likes this place. and you know what? i like having him here too. he's good. he has done a fantastic job. a really incredible mind . unbelievable entrepreneur. sort of everything. i'm asking him, what you do best? and we were not able to figure it out. it's a lot of things. another one, who was another great mind and a great guy, and so popular . i think he's right. he wants to make people healthy. it has driven him pretty wild over the last number of years . the democrats didn't treat him well. he was doing fantastically well . i think they came out with some rule that you had to do this, mike, he had to get 70 or 75% of the vote to qualify to be in the

primary. that was a pretty tough thing to get. and he was doing incredibly well and he decided he can't do it, went independent, now he's with us all the way. today i nominated him for, i guess if you like health and people that live alone time, it's the most important position. rfk jr. bobby? good. and i just looked at the news reports. people like you, bobby. don't get too popular, bobby. you know? you reached about the level . we want you to come up with things and ideas, we've been talking about for a long time. i think you are going to do some unbelievable things. nobody's going to be able to do it like you. and, boy, does he feel in his heart congratulations to your family. and a woman who

was a democrat and was independent. last week she said, i want to be a republican because this is what i stand for. and i've always admired her. i've admired her because she was loaded up with common sense. it's all about common sense. we are conservative in this room but we can understand the other side. but what we really are is people with common sense. i think that's why we won with the numbers we won by. great comments. and you have vivek. it's taken people long time and now that name is emblazoned -- working with elon on efficiency . they are working on efficiency, among other things. they're going to be saving a lot of money and

making our country stronger and better. they will be coming out with individual reports. a big one toward the end . you put those two together it's going to be really great. so we look forward to seeing it and working with elon pick that should be a great expense. you can learn something from elon i think. it's going to be great. thank you very much. and great job. what you have done is fantastic. and somebody that i have admired for a long time but have really gotten to know him and my political life, especially over the last year , more than maybe ever before, more than the first four years. because we had a tremendous success in my first term and then bad things happened and we had to wait . i couldn't wait. i was going. they're not going to do it, they are not going to help us, they are not going to save this country. it really dawned on me, about 10 days out. i said, wait a minute, 10

days. we waited three years, four years, two years. all of a sudden it's 10 days and then every day seems so long. but i knew by the crowds we were getting that it was going to be really something. newt gingrich got up and he said, this is a very special thing that's happening. nobody has ever had crowds , they just wanted hope. they wanted something. they just didn't want what they had . and nobody expressed it more beautifully than newt gingrich. thank you very much. thank you. but the american people have just delivered something very amazing. the biggest political victory in 129 years. can you believe that ? 120. they said the most consequential election. i love that word. beautiful word. the most consequential election in the last 129 years . that's

something. so we swept all swing states. we won the popular vote. i love that. in the last one, in my first term, they said he won the election but they always followed by, he didn't win the popular vote. that's what they say. i don't even know if it's true or not. who knows? but they would say, he didn't win the popular vote and we won the popular vote by records. nobody can say that any more about us. nobody can say that. because we won the popular vote. and i didn't win it. the people won it. the great people of our country won the popular vote. that's what they wanted. this is something really special. when the white house recaptured the senate. as of today, recaptured the house. thank you very much, congressman. looks like we have

a, the largest margin of national vote since 1928. that's a long time ago. that's interesting. that's when this house was built, 1928. it took a lot of years but that was when it was completed. and something that i just read here, and i saw from one of our friends from the news, from the media . i didn't know this. we won 49 out of 50 states shifted toward the gop significantly. that's a big number. so we won the largest share of black and hispanic votes of any republican in the history of our country, recorded history of our country. so we want to think of that. we won the largest share of black and hispanic voters. at some credible. unbelievable people. we respect them, we admire them. they've been through a lot. they like us. it wasn't

easy. it wasn't easy. if you take a look at the border of texas, the governor greg abbott, he called me up, he said , you won a physical town on the border and these towns were always blue. they were a dark, strong blue. we won every single town up and down the border in texas. we won with married women . what about unmarried women? what happened to unmarried women? we won with married women. we won half of all ages, more than 50% of the 18 to 29-year-olds , the highest in many decades, the highest number. >> we will continue watching these remarks. he's about to get to the prepared section of the speech. stay with us. much more after this.

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president elect speak. this is the most we have heard from him out loud since election night victory speech . mostly just thinking supporters, mostly going over the same policy he did pick we will keep an eye on it. we are joined by legendary journalist carl bernstein. one of the things he did do, which is interesting, it was pointed out many of the people he said he will nominate to the cabinet. including robert kennedy jr. now matt gaetz was in the room but he talked about kelsey gabbard and others. these are pics that many people see as controversial. isn't this what donald trump said ? to shake things up? >> absolutely. it's important to recognize that these appointments are to destroy . to destroy the -- since going back to the roosevelt years, to the new deal. that is what this

candidate promised and that is what he is doing. and the radical nature of it is something that we have not seen in our time . we should pay attention to what he said in the campaign because kelsey gabbard tulsi gabbard. because they represent what he wants and what the movement is all about. it is a total departure with the established norms, regularity of our political and cultural realities in this country. it is a departure such as we have never seen. donald trump has pulled this off. he will pursue exactly what he was talking about. it is a new day that has really draconian implications for this country, particularly in the rule of law, the obeisance to the

constitution of the united states since donald trump has ever spent a minute considering, et cetera, et cetera. >> i should note, donald trump finished speaking. in the remarketed announced that he would nominate doug bergen, from north dakota, to become secretary of interior. compared to some of the other announcements he has had the last few days it is extraordinarily mainstream. a somewhat traditional type of pick. you talked about, in your view, these are pics meant to destroy. talk to me about what matt gaetz has attorney general, how in your mind that is meant to destroy. and look, you've had experience with some attorney general pick >> he was a crook. he was a law partner of the president of the united states and was behind a lot of the watergate conspiracies. this is a different order. matt gaetz is somebody with no legal experience except what the congress and justice department

was thinking throwing him. he is a statement made by donald trump about trump's belief that he has been victimized by the justice department. he is going to use gaetz as an instrument of revenge . and if gaetz is not there and not confirmed, there will be another attorney general intended to do the revenge work of donald trump. trump has told us everything he's going to do. our job, and the press particularly, is to follow the stories down in terms of what he promised and in terms of what he's doing. watch what we do, not what we say . that's what john mitchell said. in this instance, we need to watch what donald trump said and then follow-up in terms of what he's doing. and he's doing exactly what he promised. and that is to create a new social , cultural and political order in this country that is totally

different. look at the great movement that we have seen. the civil rights movement, the women's movement, look at what trump and these people are doing to undermine those movements. >> great to have you here. thanks so much for being here. voters in pennsylvania that swung to trump the cycle speak with gary tuchman about why they voted for him. >> how do you sleep at night? >> on a mattress

this evening democrats are assessing what he lost last week. gary tuchman recently visited pennsylvania and spent time in the county that swung more to the right than any other in that battleground commonwealth. there voters explained why they voted for trump and what they expect out of him next. >> reporter: a mother of three who lives in pennsylvania, which got so much attention is a key election battleground state. you told me that you

voted for donald trump this time around. >> is pick >> voted democratic joe biden four years ago. what did you switch your vote? >> i feel trump is honest and he is the change that this country needs right now. >> reporter: she lives in -- pocono mountains. no country in the keystone state shifted more towards donald trump in 2020 than one row. and that led to trump narrowly winning the county after losing it by more than six points four years ago. marino was part of that blue to red shift. what you want to see donald trump do? >> i want to see them, you know, take care of the border. too much immigrants come in, even though i am an immigrant. >> reporter: where you from? >> i'm from haiti. i came in the proper way. i just feel like everyone should come in the proper way. >> reporter: how does it make you feel, the way he has talked about haitians and some other immigrant groups? >> i think it's for shock value. i know people to say

things just to get people talking. that's how i feel about it. i don't take it personal because i don't believe my country is like that. >> reporter: we asked other monroe county residents who had switched trump or didn't vote in 2020, who voted for him in 2024, what they want to see from him. at the cafe in the city of strasburg, emily is a breeze to pick >> have never voted. this is my first year ever voting because i have a child and i want to see the future get better. i don't want to see people hate each other. i understand why people think he incites hatred. but i feel like that's just what people want you to think. >> reporter: she says education is her top issue for the future and for president. >> brings to his education instead of teaching them things like pronouns, gender identity, things of that nature. >> reporter: crockett is semi retired. he too contributed to the shift by voting for trump this time around after not voting at all and 2020. >> i would like to see the

economy become more stabilized. i would like to see the gouging on the prices come down. it's crazy when you buy four pounds of ground beef and it's $40. >> reporter: we heard a lot about the economy. >> i need assistance, i need help. i needed to be under control. >> reporter: why you think you'll be more helpful than kamala harris with helping people like you? >> i dislike you would do better, he would deal with change. i trust him. i trust them. >> reporter: why you trust him? >> it's just a feeling that i have. >> reporter: back at the restaurant server nicole rodriguez voted for kamala harris . but she also has something she wants to see from donald trump. >> first and foremost, i would like him to come down and not be so divisive. bring us all back together. he is all of our president, not just one party. >> gary tuchman is here now. so what else struck you in monroe county? >> reporter: we talked to dozens of trump voters. most voted for him three times. we

found very notable is that many of them told us, we hope trump helps unite the country. so it's a noble thought but there wasn't excessive optimism about that possibility. >> great to have you on the ground talking to people and hearing their voices. the news continues are here on cnn. -- right here on cnn.