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popular office trend may be bad for your health the panel is here and ready to go so sit back, relax and let's talk about it up washington more than two months before he takes office the president elect focused on filling top positions in his cabinet, naming loyalists who carry out his marching orders. >> but shocking officials in both parties. >> i appreciate very much a transition that's so smooth. it will be as smooth as it can get. >> donald trump, vowing a smooth transition that's been anything but. after making a rapid fire series of nominations that have set off alarm bells across washington, conservative firebrand congressman matt gaetz for attorney general, i am the most investigated man in the united states congress. >> the justice department dropped the case, but the house ethics committee was still investigating allegations of

sexual misconduct and illicit drug use when gaetz resigned this week for defense secretary, fox news personality pete hegseth who served with distinction in combat but has no experience in global affairs, being a cable news host does not necessarily qualify you to be secretary of defense, an anti-vaxxer, robert kennedy jr. to head health and human departments like the nutrition departments at fda ha avalanche of shocking appointments that has the newly minted senate republican leader john thune arguing this is what americans voted for. >> president trump had a huge mandate. the people in this country want change. >> here with me today podcaster, journalist and author kara swisher reihan salam president of the manhattan institute and national review, contributing editor, new york times journalist, and the interview podcast host. lulu garcia-navarro and conservative pollster and new york times

opinion writer kristen soltis anderson. welcome back, everyone kristen, what do trump's picks so far signal? >> you know that phrase people use in reality tv? i'm not here to make friends. donald trump's not here to make friends. in his second term, i think he remembers that his first time around. he picked a lot of people who were in some cases, a little bit more exotic, a pick in some cases a little more establishment. and he felt like he was stymied when trying to get his agenda in place. this time around, he is not interested in whether he's picking people off or not. he's picking people that he likes john bolton, who served as national security adviser to trump in his first term, had this take on his appointments now what trump wants, i think, are yes men and yes, women who don't give him the knowledge the information and the range of potential decisions that he could make. >> they just they listen to what he says and they say, yes, sir and away they go to implement it lulu, if bolton is

right and that trump wants no pushback, he wants to use his phrase, yes, men why didn't he pick people who were just as loyal but not so inflammatory? he wants to basically destroy government in the way that we know it. and i actually don't mean that in a negative way. some people hear that and think that it's negative. but i mean there there's a huge movement on the right that wants to remake the administrative state, as they call it, and really wants to shake things up. donald trump now thinks he thinks he has a mandate. that's one reason. >> it's the sort of philosophical reason. the other reason is that by putting these people there who are very inflammatory he is forcing the only check on his power, which is going to be, if you can believe it republicans in congress to early and quickly bend the knee. and if he can force this through congress without any blowback, then he knows that whatever he tries later on is going to be easy

sailing. >> part of this is to make picks that are purposely unpalatable and say, eat it yep. >> yeah. >> do you do you agree with that, reihan? >> well, i think that we'll get to the specifics in a moment of course, of course. lulu's first observation strikes me as exactly right. for example, pete hegseth is someone who is a television personality why is he being picked as defense secretary i think the argument is that we are going to need the trump team. that is he believes that his team is going to need a very effective communicator because they're going to be very aggressive. they're going to look to actually sack generals they're going to look to seek big, ambitious, structural changes when it comes to defense contracting, the defense industrial base. so i think that he absolutely wants big, big change and he thinks this is the team that's going to get it for him. >> all right. so let's talk about that the secretary of defense and military personnel. and a budget of $842 billion. pete hegseth has never run any large organization but he has plenty of opinions any general that

was involved, general admiral, whatever that was involved in any of the day. >> i woke has got to go. i'm straight up just saying. we should not have women in combat roles diversity is not our strength, hugh. i mean, this is the kind of thing these generals peddle pete hegseth kara. yeah, i have a cold. i'm really sorry. >> yeah, it's like the star wars cantina here. i don't know who's going to come up next. he's doing it all for show and to create a little like the apprentice to me, and he just wants he's going to make all the decisions anyway. so he has all these people. >> i have to say you're doing a pretty good at robert f. kennedy jr.. >> thank you very much except i, i do vaccines and well, i mean, doesn't that bother you reihan, the fact that this is a guy i mean, it's a huge it's the biggest organization in america. so why would you put a guy who's never run anything? look, let me be clear. pete hegseth served in the military with distinction received two bronze stars. i'm in no way denigrating his service. but this is a job. a big job for

somebody who knows how to run a big organization. >> it's a really big organization. and it's an organization where that deputy, the undersecretary of defense for policy, there are a lot of roles there that are going to be really important when it comes to the nitty gritty of how that place is governed. the question is whether you need an effective communicator who is aligned at the top of that organization pete hegseth is not the person i would have picked but i do believe that, you know they do have a big communications challenge ahead and i think that that's what he felt. he did not have during his first presidency. effective communicators who could take heat and then advance a really different radical argument. >> the counterargument that what he didn't have in his first term were people who would bend the knee or salute smartly and say, yes sir. i mean, we know how many times defense secretary jim mattis pushed back on trump initiatives and in national security is that what he's looking for? >> well, another view is that secretary mattis was someone who's a creature of the defense department, of the defense establishment and someone who is not looking to disrupt it but rather someone

who's looking to protect it from what he saw as a disruptive president needless to say, from the perspective of that president, he didn't love that idea, though, and i really am curious about this how i understand the need to disrupt and destroy, um to, you know, that this is the mandate but how is this going to protect america the defense department is very crucial i have a limited understanding having been a foreign correspondent for most of my career in actually protecting americans and their lives. >> so it's a great question. and i think part of the reason why somebody like pete hegseth gets picked, even though he is mostly known to viewers of this show, probably as a tv host, is not just that he's loyal, but that he's aligned i don't think it's just that donald trump is picking people who are empty vessels who will just say, yes, sir, whatever you want. pete hegseth is somebody who has a very extensive public record of what he thinks about defense. the need to refocus the pentagon on being the most

lethal war fighting machine in the world. and so i don't think it's just that he's somebody who will say, yes, sir to donald trump. i think it's at donald trump. and pete hegseth agree on what the pentagon ought to look like. >> all right one more matt gaetz for attorney general. >> yeah, i don't know. i'm so glad i have laryngitis right now because the things i could say, i think these are all unctuous toadies. every one of them almost completely. and they'll do what he says. and that's really pretty much it and donald trump will run everything from the white house, and he wants utter control, which is why he's doing the same thing with the senate. he wants complete control of the entire process. and, and and i understand that they're aligned but this guy. come on. stop we're going to get to the process in the senate in the next segment. >> but just stop just to finish this up. reihan, are you comfortable with matt gaetz with all of his baggage, with all of his opposition as the chief law enforcement officer of the united states, it ultimately doesn't matter what i think, it matters what republican senators think. but i'm asking my guess because you're the guest on this. come on. >> i'm a realist that's my role on the show. and what i

will say is that among like one of those senators, incidentally, ducking the question, well, what i'll say is that republican senators, there are a lot of them who have serious misgivings, and there are a lot of them who are going to want to fire a shot across the bow and demonstrate the independence of their branch of government this time around. so i think that that's going to be a big concern for president-elect trump and for matt gaetz. >> all right. we're going to get right to that. the next step for all those picks is senate confirmation or is it that donald trump sized monkey wrench, which could change how the president elect gets his cabinet, then conflict resolution, we'll break down the early signs of how the new administration plans to bring peace to the middle east and later costly decision. the court ruling about breakups, which may ring true episodes of how it really happened wasn't just about tampering, it was about evil

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tough confirmation votes in a truth social post, trump wrote the senate majority leader must agree to recess appointments, meaning the senate would go out of session so trump could appoint anyone he wants without a confirmation vote. and there are reports trump's transition team is bypassing fbi background checks for some of his cabinet picks. people close to the process say they're using private companies to do the vetting instead. now, the constitution is pretty clear about the senate's role here. the president shall nominate and by and with the advice of the consent of the senate, shall appoint officers of the united states. there is a provision, if the senate happens to be in recess. but trump is talking about something different here. the senate purposely going on recess so he can avoid confirmation fights. reihan, will the senate vote on trump's picks or will it take a recess and a pass on at least some of the more controversial ones?

>> i believe there's going to be a vote, and i believe that on every one. yes, i believe so. i might be wrong but my view is that there is a large enough bloc of republican senators who are very determined to make their voices heard when it comes to these appointments. and i think that we're going to hear from them. >> what do you think of the president's idea? well, just go on recess and i can do these appointments on my own. and you don't have to take a tough vote. >> well, i believe there's a reason we have this process to have the advice and consent of the senate. i think it actually your cabinet and of your administration. and i think that it's a very wise process that the framers devised. and i think that he would be wise to stick with it. >> there's a among republican senators on this issue take a look. >> i don't think we should be circumventing the the senate's responsibilities. >> the senate should be here to do its work. >> well, i believe in recess appointments. >> so i was very clear. and, you know

john thune committed to recess appointments. >> lulu do you think the senate will give up one of its main constitutional provisions, one of its main sources of power to act as a check on on any president, not just donald trump? >> i think the problem here that that republican senators are facing is that donald trump is very popular in their states some of them. and so when you hear a john thune or others, you know, they are really reflecting what they see to be the will of the voters in that state. and so i think i agree with reihan that i think it's a terrible idea not only because it flies in the face of the constitution, but if you think at some point in the future when there might be a different administration what precedent does this set for when the opposing party is in power? >> i think that republican senators, enough of them, will stand up to the president and say, no, i don't, i don't, i don't i

will do what president trump wants them to do. and you know, and i think we will see matt gaetz and others in the positions that he has nominated them for one of trump's arguments is the other party in the senate, holds up nominations. >> here's what republicans did in 2021 with key biden nominees lloyd austin was confirmed as defense secretary two days after biden took office, but for attorney general merrick garland, it took 49 days. cara one way or another, do you think that all of trump's picks, either through recess or vote, will get through the senate? >> maybe not matt gaetz, but i think everybody else possibly it depends on whether that report is released and what it says. but i think trump will get exactly what he wants and the senate will realize they are under his thumb. they are also unctuous toadies everyone's an unctuous toady, but you think they might block matt gaetz, they might block it if there's enough pressure brought to bear around that report from the house about his behavior with drugs and

underage. >> yeah. and of course, that's the question this is the ethics committee is doing has done an investigation and would have put it out except gaetz just retired from congress. and now there's a question as to whether the ethics committee will share it with the senate. and that's not clear. kristin, do you agree? whether it's gates or pete hegseth or rfk jr., that somebody will be blocked or do you think they all get through? >> i think if somebody is going to be blocked, it's going to be gates. and the reason why i pick him instead of the others is i think these senators want to get to yes on as many as possible i don't think you're going to see a bunch of these nominees go down. and i especially don't think you'll see nominees go down on policy grounds. yes, there are some republicans that have grave national security concerns around tulsi gabbard. and some of the positions she's had in the past. >> but i think this is a former congressman, a former congressman who was appointed director of national and who ran in the democratic primary in 2020. i would note, and so this has been a very interesting journey. rfk jr. has some very prominent pro-choice positions i don't

think that pro-life senators are going to use that as a reason to hold him up. i think the reason the gaetz one is different is that it's not about policy it is about character and fitness for the office. and i also suspect that for some of these senators, remember, some of them will not be up for office again until donald trump is long off into the sunset. >> or maybe not up for office again. period, period and so that is why i do think the united states senate likes to guard its power a little more jealously than the house. >> and so i it wouldn't surprise me, actually, if one of these nominations went down. and if it's one, it's reihan big picture. what do you think trump's call for the senate just to go on recess. let my my nominees go through trump's decision that he's not going to use fbi background checks for some. we don't know who but for some of his appointees, what do you think that says about how he plans to do business over the next four years? >> i think that he wants to run an activist administration. i think that he wants to have wide authority, and he wants to have a team that is very ideologically aligned and very loyal. i think that that's not really in doubt. the question

is whether or not he has made the right picks in every instance to ensure that he has people who are going to be effective in their roles and part of being effective is having allies among republicans in congress, including some of those members of the senate, who are folks who are very jealous of their power and authority and are going to guard it ferociously. >> lulu, what do you think these two specific things were? he's basically seems to be trying to do away with some of the guardrails that have traditionally protected the country. the idea of checks and balances, the senate advises and consents on appointments. the fbi does thorough background checks that he wants to do away with those. what do you think that says? >> well, i think that says is that they're setting up a fight early because they have a big plan and ambitious plan for when they actually get into office to really blitz all of these institutions. and, you know put a lot of things in place, a lot of executive orders. i've heard at least 100 executive orders are ready to go right off the bat. and i think what you're going to see

is again, this idea of you know, the system is overwhelmed already. we're just seeing just with the nominations. the system is being overwhelmed and imagine what's going to happen right when he gets into power. the system is going to be even more overwhelmed. so if you start that, that process now, by the time he gets into office, the resistance is going to be less. >> one of the first big items on donald trump's plate the middle east. up next, how his pick for ambassador to israel could signal how he plans to deal with the conflicts there. also ahead, no dogs allowed the senate rule that's dividing washington in a good humored way political analysis. >> we have all kinds of questions. you're about to feel so stupid. >> pressing questions what did biden do that set the right course? stayed awake. >> hard hitting questions why did trump pull out of 60 minutes? >> i love pulling out and downright ridiculous questions.

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governor mike huckabee as the u.s. ambassador to israel. huckabee, already facing criticism for past comments against the palestinians and dismissing a two state solution. there is no such thing as a west bank. it's judea and samaria. but huckabee's selection has also brought renewed hope for the families of the hostages. >> we will do everything in its power to get the hostages back, who are pleading with joe biden and donald trump to work together on a solution. >> we have seen there's been a lot that hasn't been united but they are united in the release of these hostages. >> lulu, how strongly do you think trump will favor israel over the palestinians? >> you're joking right? i mean, if you look at the um, the people who have been nominated for these roles, these are not people who will occupy the traditional role of the united states which is to mediate between the israelis and the palestinians, even though of course, the united states is one of israel's largest backers and benefactors

to the tune of billions of dollars of aid every year. >> um so i think what you're going to see is an accelerated push um, inside israel to annex the settlements in the west bank, something that is considered illegal under international law. you're going to see a sort of real unity between this administration and the administration of bibi netanyahu and their plans to probably reoccupy gaza. you're going to see things that historically have been completely taboo happen. i think in an accelerated fashion. >> saudi crown prince mohammed bin salman this week condemned the israeli offensive in gaza in the strongest terms what are dennis marita? the kingdom reiterates its condemnation and absolute refusal of the collective genocide committed by israel against the brotherly palestinian people, which has left more than 150,000 martyrs and injured, most of whom are women and children. >> kristen do you agree with lulu that basically trump is

going to give netanyahu a blank check? >> i think trump is going to be a very strong supporter of israel and its causes. as lulu noted you have whether it's the appointment of elise stefanik as un ambassador. i mean, a number of his appointments have been very, very very strongly pro-israel individuals. at the same time, donald trump comes to the middle east, wants to be someone who solves things coming out of his first term, was very proud of the abraham accords. and so in some ways, is this the is there the possibility of a nixon goes to china like, because donald trump is so vocally pro-israel, could ironically, that be the reason why he's able to broker something? it's unclear, but at least right now i mean, he's this isn't the middle east that he had when he was president. the last time. this is a middle east that has been broken by the gaza war. this is a middle east that is currently in conflict. and this is a middle east where you have bibi netanyahu and a very, very extreme government in israel that has big plans for

what they can do. there but i want to pick up on what you were saying chris and reihan, you know, with this idea of nixon goes to china. >> sometimes it's the more conservative guy who has the political leeway. do you think it's possible that because he's seen as so pro-israel that trump might have more leeway? you heard what the hostage families were saying there, more leeway both with hamas or the palestinians in gaza and israel to get a hostage deal. >> here's what i know to the extent the middle east is broken, it's because iran broke it, and it's because the biden administration decided to break withre with a posture of containing iranian aggression, and instead actually wound up empowering iran in the region. so if there's one thing i'm pretty confident of, it's that president-elect trump is not going to seek to be buddy buddy with iran. you know, in light of the fact that the iranians him during this last presidential campaign, i think that he's going to ensure that israel but also the saudis, also the gulf states that have their own reasons to want to check the expansion of iran's imperial designs on the region,

i think is going to back up those forces in the region. but but, you know, there has been criticism that that biden was kind of in a weak middle. he wasn't tough enough on israel. he wasn't pushing the palestinians enough. do you think it's possible that trump will be able to pull off a cease fire and a hostage deal in a way that biden was unable? >> i guess if they're scared of him, if iran is scared of him certainly. and if he's tougher on iran, i would agree. being tougher on iran is probably more appropriate here. that said, he's a huge backer of bibi netanyahu, so i think if i was in gaza, i'd be rather worried about the fate. >> i think there's going to be a hostage deal. i don't think that there's any question of that. i think there will probably be a cease fire. the question as always, is what comes after that? what does it mean for the region and are we talking about a lasting peace, or are we talking about the obliteration of of palestine and the palestinians? >> all right. we're going to take a little bit of a turn here, because there's the domestic politics of all this wayne county in michigan has the country's largest arab

american population, but here were the results. election night in the city of dearborn, where almost half the residents are of arab descent. kamala harris got just over one third of the vote four years ago. biden carried arab american voters who voted against harris because they were unhappy with biden and ended up not that they did it by themselves, electing donald trump? did they make a mistake? >> i have many friends who made that choice this election. who are of arab descent and the reason that they did it was because they felt that they could not vote for this administration, and they feel that it really doesn't matter who is in power in the united states because both sides betray them in different ways and so their desire was to punish the administration that's currently sitting. and

in that sense, they feel like they didn't make a mistake. of course if you are wanting to help the palestinians, one could argue that perhaps they did make a mistake because i don't think this administration that is incoming is going to be particularly sympathetic to the palestinian cause. >> ryan, i understand that arab americans, like everybody else, votes for a variety of reasons. but to the degree that they were motivated, we certainly knew that was one of the motivations. they were wanted to punish. the biden-harris administration for its support of donald trump's policy towards the palestinians anymore? >> i certainly think that some of them will welcome the idea of decisive, strong firm leadership that will bring an end to chaos and conflict in the region. but even if it's even if it's, as lulu says with the annexation of parts of the west bank, with reoccupation of gaza. >> yeah, i do believe that there are a lot of folks who want peace rather than war and chaos in the region, and they understand that it's not necessarily going to be a straight line to exactly what

hamas or the palestinian establishment wants, because those paths have failed. >> quick answer i don't know what do you want me to say to that? i mean, i think that that's not true, but i don't speak for the arab american community. i think they do want the end of war. and i do think they want the end of people dying. but beyond that, there is a real desire for a true and lasting peace which, you know, respects the path of palestinian statehood so, you know, are you looking at the long game or the short game? that's always the question in politics and in the middle east and global affairs, a very different kind of conflict just decided by a court could end a decades long debate about what happens when a couple breaks up. also ahead, stand down why experts now say you should end a popular office trend >> i'm venturing across the globe to see how these new

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what's the answer? experts say it's movement, suggesting it's best to alternate between sitting standing and brief walks to break up the day. go figure. reihan, are you yay or nay on the standing desk? i am a big believer in taking walks while you're making phone calls. and also, i'm small enough, chris, that i can actually stand at a sitting desk so it works out perfectly. i have a little stack of books under my laptop. it works great for me so i win either way. >> wow this is the man who doesn't drive and goes to the grocery store with a wheelbarrow and he stands in a sitting desk. >> i do things my own way chris. yeah kara. >> it turns out the global market for standing desks is estimated to reach $12 billion by 2032. are you buying or selling? >> i hate standing desks and i went out with someone who had them, and probably one of the reasons we broke up, i think they're ridiculous. >> you look silly with all due respect, and i'm not shaming you you could probably stand it at a funny, i have a desk that

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like the whole entire point of giving the ring is that it is a gift. okay? this isn't like an investment. it isn't a car loan. it's a gift. >> oh, my lord preston, let me tell you, because i have to say, the massachusetts court's reasoning on this seemed to me to be unimpeachable. it said it's too hard to say who's responsible for a breakup. there's always two sides to that story. and they say yes, it is a gift, but it's a conditional gift on the basis that you're going to get married is the court right? give back the rent i actually do think this is right. >> i think in an instance where the giver is clearly at fault, though i still do think we should have some wiggle room in the law where if the giver is a cad and does something that causes the engagement to break, then he's like, give me back my ring. then i think you don't give it back. >> it's the recipient's fault. but anyway, we're moving on to other issues a rare yay or nay from the world of politics. this week, newly elected west virginia republican senator jim justice arrived in washington for orientation where he was

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don't think anything is going to happen here. it is a stunt. we've had the grace commission every single president has done this, including ronald reagan with the grace commission, where he was going to drain the swamp. and it seems to me the swamp is still here incidentally, talking about breaking down guardrails, the trump team is talking about, well, once, because it would call for government cuts. >> normally you have to go through congress. they're saying, well, maybe we can just do it. and cut congress out reihan, best shot elise stefanik whom president-elect trump has nominated to be the u.s. ambassador to the un, is a rising political star, and this is going to be her biggest stage. some of you will recall that back in the 1970s, daniel patrick moynihan was the u.s. ambassador to the u.n., where he made a bold defense of the united states of western values and of the people of israel and i believe that stefanik is going to be a big, big winner from this administration. >> do you see no opportunism in

the stefanik's flip from trump critics strong critic back in 20 1516 to now being a diehard supporter. >> i think that her conversion on that is entirely genuine. but more to the point, i think she's an incredibly talented, tenacious politician. she was the one leading the the interrogation of those college presidents. she got a couple of them fired for kind of pitiful answers on the question of anti-semitism. so she'll be effective. there's no question about that. lulu, take us home. >> i am taking us home with nothing in the political sphere and simply happy, happy, happy news about thanksgiving. this year. your thanksgiving turkey is going to be 2% cheaper. it doesn't sound like a lot, but in a period of rising prices, every little bit helps and so munch your turkey with joy cook as big a turkey as you want because it's going to be a little bit cheaper. this year. and we can sit around the table and not talk about politics, but as you pointed out, or as we discussed in an earlier

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