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following these major developing stories and many more, all coming in right here to cnn news central trump's inauguration and his transition is moving forward at breakneck speed and speaking of whiplash, eye popping revelations about his most high profile cabinet picks have washington in a tizzy. there's also his truth social post from the wee morning hours today, confirming trump's plans to declare a national emergency over illegal immigration and use the military to assist in the mass deportations like he promised throughout his campaign, trump appears impervious to the backlash against his cabinet picks, even as some could face an uphill confirmation battle in the senate. trump's newest administration pick is brendan carr to head the federal communications commission. khuza'a is currently in fcc commissioner and authored a

chapter on proposed changes to the agency in project 2025. that controversial plan that trump tried to distance himself from during the campaign. cnn's kristen holmes is joining us now. so, kristen tell us a little bit more about this fcc pick and just where things stand overall yeah, he was appointed to the fcc by trump in 2017. >> he is considered the senior most republican and really a shoo in for this position. but the thing to keep in mind here is he's not just an ally of donald trump. he's also an ally of elon musk's and it is likely, or at least possible, that he could help him with some government contracts, particularly when it comes to starlink. now, just to give you an idea of what car is going to be focused on, this was a quote that he put on twitter, right? or excuse me x right after he was named says we must dismantle the censorship cartel and restore free speech rights for everyday americans. the reason why this is interesting is something we've heard time and time again from the president elect as something he

cares about. essentially, tech companies censoring people facebook. he's brought that up or instagram, but again, this is an ally of his but the real thing to watch here is something that we reported some time ago. my colleague steve contorno, when he did a deep dive on people who were still advisers to donald trump or in his orbit, writing those different proposals for project 2025. he was one of them. and with this same idea that donald trump tried to distance himself from so many of these proposals. clearly, here he is linking up with someone who is the author of an entire section about the fcc for project 2025. >> and there's another key position that we're still waiting for, which is treasury. what can you tell us about that yeah, we were told we were going to get treasury likely on friday. >> i talked to a number of people who said there was a meeting where they were going to go over it. but what we've been essentially told is that they are adding more people to

the mix for treasury with the two top candidates. scott bessent and howard lutnick. there's been a lot of knife fighting, i am told particularly on the part of lutnick who ran the transition. they are still working out how this is going to play out. one thing to keep in mind is that lutnick has been close to trump for a very long time, so clearly some people are trying to handle this entire situation with kid gloves. we'll see that post. >> all right, kristen thank you so much for that report live for us from west palm beach. and the house ethics committee is now expected to meet on wednesday and they could actually decide whether to release their report on trump's controversial attorney. attorney general pick >> the committee launched an investigation you'll remember in 2021 after salacious allegations surfaced about surfaced about sexual misconduct and drug use. gaetz flatly denies those accusations, but today we are getting new insight into some of the evidence uncovered. cnn chief legal affairs correspondent paula reid is

here with us along with cnn chief congressional correspondent and anchor of inside politics sunday manu raju. paula, let me begin with you. i mean, i you know, i often hesitate to ask this question because some of the details are lurid, but they're details nonetheless of a serious investigation. so what do you know? yeah. so this all comes out of civil litigation in florida. this is a lawsuit that was filed by one of gaetz's associates. the congressman is not a party to this litigation, but the lawsuit went after another one of their friends. but also the girl who was underage when she allegedly had sex with the former congressman. and as a result of this litigation, they did discovery. they engaged in the process of creating a whole new record of evidence, including depositions with some of the women who were at these parties, including also that girl who was allegedly underage when she had sex with the congressman, though those depositions of the underage victim and the other women, those are under seal but the lawyers involved in this case were kind of clever. they took some parts of her deposition that's under seal and incorporated portions of it into their questions that are publicly available in the docket so they reference, for

example that she said in her deposition that she had sex with gaetz on an air hockey table. so the lawyer asked specifically he said, quote, and you heard her testimony that she said that you observed her and matt gaetz having sex on the air hockey table. so there, you know, he's putting her deposition. right. part of it in his question. so the person being asked that denied that he saw it. but the lawyer also notes that the friend of the underage woman who brought her to the party that they were talking about testified that she, too, had sex with gaetz at the same gathering. now, the reason this is relevant to the ethics committee report is that we know that the ethics committee same witnesses. they've also gotten access to a lot of the evidence that was gathered in the civil litigation. and again, this is a flavor of what they have collected. now, the congressman has of course, consistently denied wrongdoing. >> and the ethics committee is meeting on wednesday. manu. yeah and the decision is going to be about whether or not to go ahead and release this report. >> even though he is now a resigned member of congress and even though the speaker of the house has leaned on them not to release the report, they could still go ahead. if one

republican were to vote with the democrats. this is a narrow, evenly divided panel, so it would require one member. but given the amount of pressure that they're under, it's unclear whether or not they would actually do that. now jeh johnson has maintained that the reason why he is that they shouldn't release it, because he said it would breach protocol. typically, he says this does not happen for members who have resigned. but there is precedent for people who have resigned, both in the house and the senate, to see their investigations by the ethics committee come out afterwards in a form of a report. so we'll see which side they ultimately come down. but no doubt about it, there is a ton of pressure on these republicans because on the senate side there are a lot of senate republicans who say they want to see this before they cast a key vote. to that point, could the senate formally request the house to do so? >> i mean, that will be an interesting clash between the two chambers. if it ultimately comes to that. we don't know where the judiciary committee, incoming judiciary committee chairman chuck grassley stands on this issue. so if he sides with some of his members on the committee, like john cornyn, a

senior member of that committee, who wants to see that report, perhaps that would put some pressure on them to move ahead. but we'll see how that plays out. you've broken so many of the stories of this ethics investigation paula. i wonder if you think it's going to leak the report so they don't release it through formal, formal, formal channels, either officially or in a redacted form? i would actually be a little bit surprised if it leaks because this committee does not leak, much to my chagrin. but i understand why it is they're trying to protect not only the subjects of these ethics investigations, but also the witnesses because remember, at the heart of the gaetz investigation is a group of pretty vulnerable women who were perhaps preyed upon by much more powerful, wealthy men in the state of florida. i've talked to some witnesses who were interviewed in the justice department probe, and for the ethics probe. they don't want the report released. they don't want to dredge all this up again. that's part of why they don't just leak information. they wouldn't talk to us about their investigation. but there is an enormous amount of pressure on them politically to release this. so lawmakers can assess

whatever evidence they've gathered as they decide whether or not matt gaetz should be the nation's top law enforcement official. >> okay speaking of other top officials, it's trump's nominee for the defense department pete hegseth, who has his own allegations of personal misconduct. where does that stand in terms of his support in getting confirmed? >> you know, a lot of republican senators who i've spoken with, they really just don't know much about him. they know he's a fox news personality. they read about his military service, but they don't know where he stands on key policy decisions. he's never been in that role before. and of course, this is a sprawling agency where critical decisions need to be met. and clearly the vetting was not such that we've seen in other nominees. and typically they go through a pretty intense vetting process before a president decides in how to go ahead. it did not happen here, which really raises the stakes for the confirmation hearings next year republicans, whether they break ranks. i'd be hard pressed to see them break ranks. but if he trips up in the confirmation hearings or if there are more problems like this that emerge, perhaps that changes the calculus for some.

>> and the question becomes, do they break ranks on multiple nominations? right. given the questions that have become public so far? manu raju paula reid, thanks so much. still ahead, the kremlin accuses the u.s. of throwing, quote, oil on the fire of war. this after president biden green lit ukraine to use u.s. long range weapons for attacks inside russia. >> plus president-elect trump promised he would bring down prices but could another promise concerning immigration actually drive those prices up? and residents in columbus, ohio, seeing a shocking scene there over the weekend neo-nazi marchers shouting racial slurs, holding up swastika flags. we're going to speak with the city official ahead political analysis. we have questions. >> how biden set the right off. >> stayed awake. >> why did trump pull out of 60 minutes? >> i love pulling out. this is a news network. have i got news

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now to cnn's kayla tausche. she is traveling with the president in rio de janeiro. kayla, tell us about biden's agenda and what you're hearing about his decision administration essentially describes two developments that led to this decision. >> first, what they see as an extremely brazen recruitment by russia of tens of thousands of north korean troops that are stationed in and will be targeted by some of these very weapons and then, second, the largest aerial attack by russia on ukraine in months, with blackouts and casualties across the country as russia targets ukraine's energy infrastructure. that is what led president biden to reverse this decision that had been months of deliberations where he declined to move in this direction. we now expect that these long range missiles, known as atacms, will be used primarily in the kursk region that you were just mentioning in western russia, where ukraine had made some strongholds and hopes to hold

on to that territory to bring russia to the negotiating table for an eventual peace deal. how and when these weapons will be used? neither side will say at this point, they don't want to give away the game on the battlefield. but just today, u.s. deputy national security advisor john finer said that the u.s. they believe is on stronger footing on the world stage than four years ago. >> even as he acknowledges inevitable changes coming forth with a new administration that could change tack on everything from ukraine to israel to just the general relationship with the world under the new administration, president biden himself nodded to that when he spoke from the amazon rainforest yesterday, saying no one can undo his legacy on climate in particular. and he echoed that message when he was speaking to leaders and their delegations from the g-20 here in rio. earlier today. here's what biden said this is my last g20 summit we've made progress together, but i urge you to keep going. >> i assure you will regardless of my urging or not this group

is within. it has within its power to usher in a new era of sustainable development to go from billions to trillions in assistance to those in need, most in need. this all may sound lofty, but this group can lay the foundation to make that achievable a biden here in brazil will meet with the country's president he will also be having more informal, brief meetings on the sidelines of the summit itself. >> but of course, all world leaders here have been trying to reach out directly to president-elect donald trump who still looms large over this gathering. brianna kayla tausche live for us in rio. thank you. and we have cnn's senior international correspondent, fred pleitgen joining us now live from moscow. fred how is this all being perceived in russia brianna, the russians and the kremlin specifically saying that the biden administration

as they put it, is pouring oil onto the fire. >> and it's been quite interesting to see because there have been some angry reactions coming from russian members of parliament. but then also russian state media, in fact a couple of minutes ago, they opened up their main show saying the biden administration has decided to extend this conflict that donald trump said that he wanted to stop. so that's sort of one of the things, one of the narratives that's being pushed here in russia is that all of this will extend the conflict and escalate the conflict. the war in ukraine. obviously, we heard the white house's perspective on on on all of that. but the second thing is that the russians believe that this could actually lead to an escalation between russia and the united states as well. we've been hearing that from vladimir putin over the past couple of weeks. what we've seen is a campaign by the kremlin to try and dissuade the white house, the biden administration, from making exactly the decision that it has now made. and one of the things that vladimir putin has said is that he believes that these types of weapons, specifically the atacms cannot be used by ukraine

without the help of specialists from the united states. other weapons, of course, from other nato members by specialists from those countries. and so the russians are saying that they would consider an attack deep into their territory using these weapons as an attack coming from nato or coming from the united states, which obviously could lead to a grave escalation. and, you know brianna, we have seen the russians in the past when the ukrainians have gotten new gear from nato states, from the united states. we've seen them draw red lines but in this case, what they've done is they've actually changed the entire nuclear doctrine of their country to specifically include a long distance attack by a non-nuclear nation like for instance, ukraine, aided by a nuclear nation, for instance, the united states, which could trigger the russians to use nuclear weapons now. so far, of course, we're nowhere near that kind of territory. but that's the kind of pressure been building up to try and stop the biden administration from making this decision. and now the kremlin is saying they will take what they call appropriate action if these weapons are actually used

brianna. >> all right. fred pleitgen, thank you so much for the report, jim. >> all right. let's discuss this now with retired army major general james spider marks, cnn military analyst, head of geopolitical strategy at academy securities. good to have you on, sir your read as to how serious russia is likely to be at this point in terms of its potential responses to this, because russia has threatened escalation before at each increase in u.s. support for ukraine, whether that be weapons systems like the himars system or even even tanks and armored personnel carriers. so here they are saying again that we might view this as an attack on us with the aid of of the u.s. and nato. do you believe that? do you believe that this step now is the one that trips that wire as it were, in terms of an escalation or some sort of response by russia

russians believe that um, i also need to say that from the outset the strategy by nato has been has achieved some phenomenal results, but has really been a stair step. >> and i don't know that in terms of applying pressure, providing support over the course of time, that that has achieved what we see today, which is the maintenance of ukrainian sovereignty, which is phenomenal, based on the ukrainian capabilities and creativity. it's quite it's quite unprecedented. but i don't know what the overarching strategy is for nato and the united states moving forward. look, conditions on the ground change ergo policies will change. and clearly with the effort by russia now going against the kursk region and the application of possibly 10,000 north korean troops, we'll see how that plays out certainly

will alter the determination in terms of what needs to be done. but the targeting process, the value of reaching deep behind enemy lines determining what can be brought to the fight treating the enemy before you engage has never changed. that has always been something that is going to provide positive outcomes. so i think the difference that we see right now is that there are more factors that this administration is dealing with and they are now unleashing some capabilities. the united states needs to be very cautious, jim, and not get in the middle of the targeting process and slow all that down okay. >> the question now is what is the military impact of allowing ukraine to do this? and by the way, it happened on yet another weekend. we should just remind folks where russia pummeled ukraine, including civilian targets across the country from firing positions inside russia

that ukraine wants to strike to defend itself. that's the rationale. it makes sense um, now the biden administration is allowing this, but the biden administration, only in charge for a couple of more months. you have a new administration coming in may do something different i mean, is there a military significance to president biden saying, now through january 20th, right at least you can do this and we'll see what the benefit is >> well, clearly the benefit look, this is not going to strategically alter the potential outcome. this is going to change the conditions on the ground. and if this incoming administration is hoping to achieve some type of a monitored agreed to ceasefire, an exit of u.s. support, i don't know. we've had all the this this narrative is out there in terms of what the new administration might want to try to achieve this potentially increases zelenskyy's ability going forward to be in a, you know, he wants to lock in the rates now, he wants to achieve his potential outcomes. now if

there is a negotiation that's going to come place, it puts him in a better position. >> we've heard this for some time, right? that they're basically fighting for better negotiating position sort of saying the quiet part out loud, right because no one wants to say that. well, you're going to have to negotiate your way out of this war in a radio interview, zelenskyy said the war, quote, will end faster with the policy of this team that will now lead the white house. that is under the trump team now, the concern right of some of ukraine's allies in the u.s. that that means trump forces ukraine's hand into a deal that it doesn't want do you see a different outcome potentially >> i think it's been very clear that the incoming trump administration has made it clear that there is a potential for a negotiated settlement. um, look, and with historical precedent, right we achieved a cease fire in korea, and we end up with the status quo that exists right now, which is an armistice it's not an agreement, a peace agreement.

>> um yeah. i really feel and you look at zelenskyy's quote, it could end look like? it may just be a cessation of hostilities. and then you agree to something on the ground which was not necessarily positive to zelenskyy a priori. the fighting. yeah. >> for for better or for worse. right. we should note that mike waltz trump's selection for national security advisor, he has publicly supported giving ukraine the ability to prior, not clear whether he'd advise the president to do the same. general james spider marks, thanks so much as always just in time for the holiday travel season unfortunately, spirit airlines has declared bankruptcy. so the big question now, what's unclear is how will that impact travelers? plus, a break-in at windsor castle ahead, how burglars got into the royal estate and what they took

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spirit ceo ted christie. this went to a lot of spirit customers. he says that this will not be complete until the first quarter of 2025. so you still have some time to fly on spirit and things should continue as normal. the big thing here about spirit is that it ushered in the term ultra low cost carrier, and that forced the major airlines to introduce the notorious basic economy fare and bottom line here is that this could have big implications for every other u.s. airline. pretty competitive industry. so this might lead to ticket prices going up on other airlines. here's the good news, though. if you have a ticket or a credit on spirit airlines you will not notice any change for now, spirit insists in a statement this morning that guests can continue to book and fly without interruption, and can use all tickets, credits and loyalty points as normal. also no impact to workers. we're hearing from spirit's flight attendants union that they will remain on the job. their contract is still in place. no changes to pay or benefits, so no immediate job

begin to do during the pandemic. also, spirit underscores that vendors will continue to be paid. big questions now about what will happen to spirit airlines in the long run. remember frontier airlines tried to merge with spirit in 2022, just a few months after that, jetblue tried to do the acquisition of spirit was blocked by the justice department on antitrust grounds frontier ended its merger plans with spirit earlier this month, which led to this bankruptcy filing. no more apparent lifelines for spirit airlines, saddled with about $3 billion in debt and now it's really on passengers to pay attention here especially if you have a spirit ticket or a credit like i do. top airline consumer advocate tells me that flights could be eliminated in the months ahead, so it's especially important to sign up for alerts check in on your flight status obsessively online. the silver lining here. no real impact on thanksgiving or holiday travel. kind of hard to believe that the thanksgiving rush is really just only a few days away now. >> yeah, we're going to be flying too so i'm taking particular interest in this. so

what is what is triple a say about the holiday? the big number from triple a now is that 80 million people will travel 50 miles or more over the seven day holiday travel period for thanksgiving. used to be a five day period, but they've now expanded that to include a couple extra days on the front end and the back end, because a lot of people are able to flex their time. a lot of people are still working from home. a lot of people are putting off the trip back home until the monday after thanksgiving. usually the sunday after thanksgiving is the day we get the really big numbers. worst times to drive about 70 million people driving are monday through wednesday in the afternoon. wednesday is a peak day. thursday usually pretty good friday morning is bad and then all day on monday, december second, the day that everybody comes home all at once, it's going to be a really big one. >> you think, hey, i want to travel on the sunday. monday is going to be fine. and then you're like sitting in your car right? >> exactly. martin, thanks so much. still ahead, president-elect trump vowed to bring down prices during his campaign but that promise may collide with another one of his biggest promises carrying out mass deportations. up next, how

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me now. matt, this is something we heard economists warning, warning about during the campaign as trump was making exactly these promises that there would be costs. tell us why. >> well, jim it's no secret that americans are fed up with high prices at the grocery store. but what may surprise some is that mass deportations could make them go even higher. now, the economic problem here, and i know there's legal and moral problems too, but the economic problem is that this is an industry that is heavily reliant on foreign workers. and yes, many of them are undocumented. just look at farms. if you plurality of them, 41% are unauthorized according to the usda. and i talked to a farmer in michigan, and he told me that mass deportations would be devastating to the ag economy because there just wouldn't be enough people to pick the crops. but this is not just about farms. undocumented workers play a key role across the food supply chain in

everything from food processing to wholesale grocery, of course, and restaurants. a total of 1.7 million people are estimated to be undocumented in the food supply chain. now we've reached out to the trump transition, have not heard back in the past. they've argued that his policies will not be inflationary, and that inflation was not a major problem during his first term. of course, that was before covid and economists warned that if you have fewer workers, it means less food. and yes higher prices. jim. >> that's just it's in the data, right? it's in the math. so, so what do farmers and agricultural companies say about why if they're relying on 41% undocumented workers? right now, why they don't or cannot hire more u.s. citizens to do the work? >> well jim, farmers say again and again that these are jobs that by and large american citizens don't want to do these are hard jobs. they're dirty. they're out in the elements. and that's why they

in fact, farmers say they need more foreign workers they want more visas they want to be allowed to keep the undocumented workers who are in the country now legally, they don't want them to be deported. now, listen to this warning from chuck connor, a former bush official who's now the ceo of the national council of farmer listen to what he said you take away from those workers, you're not going to have production. >> there's only one way prices are going to go. they're going to go dramatically higher. >> and when cows don't get milked, when apples don't get picked, when fruits and vegetables are not harvested, your supply is going to fall, probably fall dramatically. and that only drives prices up of course, higher prices is the last thing that americans want to see. >> jim, i think at the end of the day, this all comes down to the details here. how many people does trump really want to deport? how many is it even

logistically possible to deport? and how do legal challenges along the way slow that process down? i think the answers to those questions are going to go a long way to determining exactly what happens next on this inflation front. >> i mean, there are campaign promises. there are economic realities. we'll see how those two worlds collide. madigan, thanks so much brianna. >> now to some of the other headlines that we're watching this hour. back to back shootings during a parade in new orleans, police say nine people were wounded in the first shooting and then 45 minutes later, even more parade route. and that second incident, there were two people killed and a third person was critically wounded. no suspects have been identified and police are asking the public for help. also, world renowned russian ballet star vladimir shklyarov has died at age 39. officials say that he fell from the fifth floor of a building over the weekend, and that he had been taking serious painkillers for

some time. that was a quote russian state media reports. the preliminary cause of death has been ruled an accident. while an investigation is underway. shklyarov was married to fellow mariinsky theater dancer maria shklyarov, and they had two children. and british police confirm that thieves broke into the grounds of windsor castle, near london and stole a quad bike and a pickup truck. this is something that happened more than five weeks ago, but it was first reported yesterday by british tabloid the sun, and according to the report two masked men scaled a six foot fence, entered the crown estate land, then used the stolen truck to smash through a security gate and flee the scene. king charles and queen camilla were not staying at the castle at the time of the reported burglary, and the white house is now joining state leaders in condemning a neo-nazi march on the streets of columbus ohio. we're going to speak with a city official next on cnn news central

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with some carrying black flags with red swastikas. >> no arrests were made, but police briefly detained some of the marchers in response columbus community leaders organized what they described as a pro-peace unity march on the same street and this is coming after another demonstration in michigan where a group of people waving nazi flags demonstrated outside a community theater performance of the diary of anne frank. the anti-defamation league says the columbus event fits a recent pattern of white supremacist incidents. the group tracked 282 such events last year, marking a 63% increase from the year before. columbus, ohio city attorney zach klein is with us now to talk about this. zach thanks for being with us. tell us your reaction to this happening in your city, and tell us what you can about who these people are. >> well, i got to tell you the first i heard about it, not only was i disgusted, but i was

angry because columbus is the 14th largest city in the united states. what makes us great is our celebration of diversity, our culture, our differences. and that's what makes our neighborhoods our economy so strong. and so when you have these, these outside groups come in masked and parade up and down. one of our most celebrated touristy areas of town carrying nazi flags. it's disgusting it's vile. and they need to go back to where they came from and not come back to the city of columbus because they're not welcome here. >> so where did they come from well, we don't know. >> i can tell you that they do not match or fit with the ideology and what we believe in in the city of columbus. you know, these folks don't belong in the city of columbus. we don't appreciate what they do. we reject them. you know, you got to remember what nazi ism is. these are just folks that are masked, carrying a couple swastikas, nazi ism by definition, is the supremacy of the white race. but it's also to the elimination of others. so they're parading around our

town with a flag that means that they want to eliminate and kill and destroy our lgbtq friends, our jewish friends, our black friends like that is not acceptable. and that is not welcome in the city of columbus. >> i and i understand what you're saying there, but if they were briefly detained by police briefly detained some of these marchers, did they identify any of them yeah. >> so look there's an ongoing investigation and i welcome anyone that has tips on anything that they've done outside the bounds of first amendment. that could be criminal activity to report that and work with law enforcement. i've drawn a strong line in the sand as the columbus city attorney, as a prosecutor that we have prosecuted, hate crime in our in our community and we're not going to let up. we draw those lines in the sand because we appreciate and respect the diversity and culture of others and as long as i'm the city attorney we're going to fight like hell to make sure that these people are held accountable and that they have no place in our culture and in our city. >> columbus city council president shannon hardin posted

on x in response quote, i am sorry that the president elect has emboldened these creeps. what is your reaction to that look, i think that there's not a time to be political about this because our friends in the jewish community and lgbt community, they're hurting. >> they're scared, and this is a time for us to call out what it is. and as a matter of fact, when we politicize it, i think people can gloss over it and they can just say, well that's just a political thing. it's not it's not a political thing. this is happening in our community. you mentioned it happened in michigan, but the anti-defamation league has mentioned several hundred instances of nazism rearing its ugly head across our country. it is anti-american, and it's important for all elected leaders like our governor, republican governor stood up and criticized this president to stand up, elected leaders to stand up and hold these people accountable and call out this vile nonsense for what it is. it is anti-american because it threatens our individual liberties and the celebration of who we are, but it also

needs to be called out and talked about in our classrooms with teachers our parents at home, in the pulpit, in the synagogue. we cannot normalize this behavior because it is not who we are as a country. we need to call it out and not let it hide. >> are you concerned this may be part of a trend? i mean, we did detail the numbers there that there's been an uptick recently well, that's why we can't hide from it. >> and we have to call it out and denounce it every step of the way. and why this is not just an elected official response, and it shouldn't be a political response. it needs to be a family response. it needs to be a church response, a neighborhood response, a community response. and i can say that in talking with community leaders and church leaders in our own community, they are rallying a walk in our own city. this weekend to go against that. church leaders is a time for us to understand what exactly this means, how we can denounce it, how we can call it out and how we reject it as a community because it's disgusting and it has no place in america and certainly no place in columbus ohio. >> why do you think i mean, it

is appalling. i think so many people look at it it's almost unbelievable. but the fact is, it's happening more and more and we've seen this trend. why do you think that is, as you're saying, that people need to denounce this. there are clearly some people who are feeling more comfortable going out there and appalling as it is there's also a free speech issue here but they are feeling more comfortable going out there, even if they're wearing masks and saying this in public. why do you think that is look, i think that folks have come out from under their rock and that they feel emboldened to say these things. >> we've seen the incidences that you referenced, but we have to reject it as a community. we have to reject it as a city. we have to teach people exactly what it means, because i think sometimes we may gloss over the fact of what the history of what happened with our jewish friends and jewish ancestors and world war ii and just gloss over it as

part of history. but understanding what this means, it means the the annihilation or elimination of whole groups of people. and that is not who we are as a human race, but it's also not who we are as americans. and so we have this, i think, call to action to stand up and fight for what we believe in with our words and our actions in the moment. these individuals crossed the line and it gets into hate crimes. when prosecutors like myself can step up and hold them accountable. we cannot let them, uh, you know continue on with with actions that threaten and actually impede the freedoms of others. >> columbus city attorney zach klein, thank you so much. we'll continue to follow this as we know that you are searching for more information. we will continue to check in with you on that. thank you so much appreciate you. >> thank you so much. >> and we'll be right back black friday deals are here early and you get a sneak peak right now. >> save big on everything you need to feast.

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