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offensive to push kyiv out. the authorization comes as russia unleashed a second missile attack here in two days on the ukrainian city of odesa. cnn chief international security correspondent nick paton walsh is in london with the latest on this. nick, talk to us a little bit about this decision because it has been a long time coming it certainly has and the period of months in which president joe biden has essentially said this decision would be too escalatory for him to make, has added to the significance of what we heard on sunday, allowing ukraine to use these atacms longer range missiles to go after targets inside of russia. >> now, i should point out at this stage it doesn't seem like there's really going to be enough of these missiles available to ukraine to majorly tip the balance in a war where russia on the front line is gaining the upper hand has been consistently and steadily advancing in the east, but it's certainly suggests that president biden in his closing

months, is not afraid of escalation and potentially wants to see the war in ukraine involve the united states in a more intense, greater fashion. in these closing months of his administration perhaps to complicate or change the dynamics that president elect donald trump inherits. if potentially he pursues negotiations like him and his team around him have suggested might indeed be the point. i should point out that while we haven't heard directly from russian president vladimir putin, he has in the past suggested that if these missiles were in fact used, that would constitute nato, the united states and europe essentially becoming parties to the war. we've not heard from him today but we have heard from his foreign ministry, who've essentially repeated that idea so interesting to see how the kremlin respond to this, brianna. >> and what can you tell us about these two undersea cables in the baltic sea, nick, that have been cut here in the last 48 hours? >> yeah look, there's two here, one between lithuania and

sweden. that lithuanian officials have been clear that they believe has indeed been cut and a second one that is between germany and finland, where a mystery, disruption appears to have interrupted some of the traffic there. now, look, we don't have any evidence at this point to suggest that these events are indeed linked, but bear in mind that while we have heard russia vocally saying that, it will respond to what it considers escalation by the west, it doesn't really, at this point have the military strength struggling in nearly a thousand days of war inside of ukraine to take on a neighbor that it considered to be weaker than itself, to confront nato, the largest military alliance in history, directly. and so instead we've seen an increase in what intelligence officials have been calling the asymmetric response of russia. there have been suggestions that russian intelligence may have been behind some courier packages that have detonated or almost detonated around europe, and it may indeed be that in time, a future we see some

suggestions that these internet cables on the bottom of the sea may have been tampered with by some body, but interesting the timing of this, and i'm sure investigators will be looking fast and hard to see exactly how this happened. brianna all right. nick paton walsh, thank you. jim. >> all right. let's turn now to the experts. joining us, kimberly dozier, cnn global affairs analyst and starting with brianna. cnn military analyst, retired air force colonel cedric leighton. >> and colonel leighton, we're going to start with you. talk to us a little bit about these atacms and exactly how much of a difference maker these are. >> right. so brianna, let's start with the basic statistics, if you will so it has a range of about 180 to 190 miles, 13ft in length, first used in the gulf war and basically it's been in service since that time until the present day. so when you look at it and it, you know, is here seen in flight this is a basically a short to intermediate range artillery piece. and what it can do is it can do all kinds of things that

really affect this area right in here. so we're looking at the border between russia and ukraine. and you can see what it can actually reach right here. so these are one of the key things to note here in addition to kursk which is the area that the ukrainians have occupied, i or at least part of right there you can also see the area of belgorod. this area right in here has a major russian military installation associated with it. and there are several other major installations right along this whole periphery. >> it could really gym change the landscape of the war, and it certainly changes some of the political decisions that may have to be made by the incoming administration. here. >> kim, given concerns inside the outgoing administration about the incoming administration's commitment to defending ukraine. when i saw this move, i wondered, was the biden administration trying to move the ball forward in a way that would be difficult for trump to move back? >> they are definitely trying to set the battlefield in place. so that ukraine has as

much as possible before january 20th, and one of the things that look on january 20th, um, the next president can turn the clock back pull back these permissions but what might happen in the interim is that biden right now is at the g20, asking leaders to support more of more aggression, more weapons for ukraine, and to pick up, just in case the next white house wants to draw back. and that means that britain and france, who've been reluctant so far to give ukraine permission to use their storm shadow their their own mid-range missiles inside russia can now they've got the u.s. permission. they can do the same. so whatever trump wants to turn off, come january, he can't tell other nato powers. now you have to say no to ukraine, too.

>> he can't tell them. but the fact is, the u.s. just has so much more military power and greater assets that just those countries can't supply to the same degree. i mean, if you add up all their dollar support. so the question is, can they actually i know there's a lot of talk about them filling the gap, but can they actually >> well look, this is a short term fix um, they would take it would take them years to build the manufacturing lines to replace u.s. weapons manufacturing capacity. but in the short term, they could get enough aid to ukraine so that ukraine can hit enough of those concentrations of north korean and russian troops that are trying to take back kursk, because if ukraine can keep kursk, then when trump forces everyone to the negotiating table, they can say okay, we'll give you back kursk. if you give us back crimea. >> i didn't think of that. yeah, fantastic. and, brianna, by the way, to think of this, there were north korean thousands of north korean soldiers fighting in europe today alongside russia. we've got to remember that. yeah. no, it's such a good point and we

just in the state department, jim, saying that more than 11,000 north korean troops are now operating in kursk and colonel, that's up. we should say we knew that there were more than 10,000. now they're saying there's more than 11,000. so that's telling you there's a slow but steady increase of these north korean helpers in this region at a time where russia just really hammered ukraine in an offensive. >> absolutely. and so those north korean troops would be co-located with russian elements right in this area, basically. right around the areas in which the ukrainians actually have a piece there. so this right here is the area that ukraine has occupied. the north korean troops will give them a green color here. they would be alongside the russian troops, and they would be potentially used either to supply as a richard allen supply effort or potentially in combat. we've already had some reports of them actually being in combat and it's part of a movement that could include

about 100,000 north korean troops over the course of the next 12 months. >> yeah. you're seeing what is perceived as escalation on both sides here, an important to note, colonel. thank you so much, kim really appreciate your input. and ahead, this hour on cnn news central. the house ethics committee is expected to meet here within days as it weighs whether to release its final report on matt gaetz. what we're learning about the investigation into president-elect trump's pick for attorney general. plus new reporting about democratic lawmakers growing frustration with nancy pelosi. why the former house speaker is getting under their skin. >> and an e coli outbreak that has sickened dozens and killed one is now traced back to carrots. what you need to know these important stories and more all coming up this hour on cnn news central deals with any six inch sub weight. subway did what dad

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on his truth social account and on the debate stage. have a listen i have nothing to do with project 2025. >> that's out there. i haven't read it. i don't want to read it purposely. i'm not going to read it. this was a group of people that got together. they came up with some ideas, i guess some good, some bad, but it makes no difference. i have nothing to do his picks seem to contradict that. >> cnn's tom foreman joins us for a deeper dive. so tell us more specifically about khuza'a and his ties to project 2025. >> yeah he certainly calls into question everything that trump said about this. who is in project 2025. it's about 5000 words. so two long magazine articles appointed to the fcc by trump in 2017 and in a relationship with elon musk has developed and that they sort of guy who posted this we must dismantle the censorship cartel and restore free speech rights for everyday americans. well, what does that mean when you look at some of his proposals, you get an idea end big techs,

unproven conservative censorship in the last election. in this election over and over again, you heard conservatives yelling that their views were being suppressed in large part because there were big media companies big tech companies that were saying, hey, we can't forward flat out lies that endanger the public like lies about vaccines and about covid and about the election. we shouldn't forward things that we know to be false. they're calling that censorship, saying you don't know them to be false. those are our views. you're suppressing those views. roll back net neutrality rules. net neutrality is what basically says every company has in really lay terms, an equal share of the internet. everyone has a right to get their things forward. they want to roll that back, which would allow some companies to promote certain views and other companies more accurately than others. so if you're big and you have a lot of money, you can buy more freedom of speech on the internet in effect, and more freedom to sell your products. other may not. but net neutrality kind of fights

against that. and he indicates support of trump's threats to media licenses basically all the tv stations you listen to radio stations, the fcc licenses them to use the airwaves in his writing, he says, hey, those airwaves are worth a lot. we don't like it if you're out there promoting views that we think are anti-american anti-patriotic we think that that's unfair. so they would go after that as well. again, one of his other posts to consider broadcast media have had the privilege of using a scarce and valuable public resource. our airwaves in turn, they're required by law to operate in the public interest and when the transition is complete, the interest. the big question here is what is the public interest? when you say public interest, we all have an idea of that if you think it's against the public interest to promote alternative views, well, then that's a problem. >> and tom there are other trump picks that have ties to project 2025 as well. yeah. even though some of them have tried to suggest they don't or

they're tenuous at best. tom homan was involved in putting this together. john ratcliffe, the cia director nominee there, stephen miller deputy chief of staff, he founded a group that was involved in writing some of this. he had some other ties to it both he and karoline leavitt white house press secretary. they both, at various points have sort of disavowed any contact or tried to make it a very thin thread to all of them. the bottom line is this we know that there are dozens of people who are tight with trump. part of the trump circle involved with trump in the campaign. and now who are absolutely part of project 2025. it's online whether you're for it or against it, it's worth pulling up and reading. take some time. it'll be about 900 pages, but it gives you a real idea of many of the ideas that many of those in trump's orbit want to see enacted. now that he has the power to do it. >> all right, tom foreman, thank you so much. joining us now to discuss is nayyera haq, former white house senior director for the obama administration, and lance

trover former spokesperson for doug burgum presidential campaign. all right lance, trump's picks are looking pretty. project 2025 for someone who disavowed project 2025, was he lying? >> i don't think he was lying. look, i view project 25. i got folks here in the media love to talk about it, and i know i think it's like a failed democratic talking point from the campaign. the country spoke overwhelmingly donald trump said, i don't have anything to do with this. the country voted for him with 75 million votes. i look at somebody like brendan carr who wants to take on free speech and ensure we have free speech in this country. i don't think that's a bad thing. who wants to take on these tech companies? i don't personally think that's a bad thing. and i think a lot of voters out there don't think it's a bad thing. it's not like this is his only qualification. the guy sits on the fcc right now. >> no, no, no i don't that's not what we're talking about but if, for instance, you were a democrat who disavowed the green new deal and then you won the election and hired a bunch of people who had written it, a lot of republicans would say that was not in good faith. >> well there's a lot of people who worked on project 2025.

does that mean they should have nothing to do with this incoming government? is that is that what you're saying? they can't they can't possibly work in government? the question is is people are qualified beyond beyond working on a lie. >> for trump to have said, i have nothing to do with it, and then to hire people who wrote parts of it for senior positions. in his government. or is that at least misleading no, that's why don't i jump in here with the fact that 140 former trump one administration officials were part of writing project 20, 2025? >> that's part of why this became the democratic talking point, to connect the first administration with what we're clearly plans for another trump administration. now, i totally agree with you. it is not a winning campaign message because ultimately campaigns are not about here's my policy proposal and how i plan to destroy the administrative state it's about the feeling, the thoughts of how people want to engage government, which is why you can say something like, oh, free speech. but the reality is, how is that going to be implemented in law in regulations, governing is much different than campaigning. and now we see that the people from project 2025 have every intention of governing and

executing the plan that they put together for trump. so democrats failed to get that message across to a sufficient number of voters to win the election what is the democrats plan now, particularly given that they're in the minority in the senate and the house white house, and, of course, a conservative controlled supreme court to push back or block any of the more extreme elements of project 20. >> i think there's two views right now within the democratic party. and obviously a lot of recovery from the election and self self-flagellation as well as self-reflection. and one of the views is that, well, this is what the country wanted, even if it was 780 000 votes within swing states, it is considered a decisive enough election that let the country get what it wants and democrats should be playing defense and fixing things for individual communities as they go along and let trump own this. the other perspective, and i think you'll hear this a lot more from folks who've worked on the governing side and not the campaigning side is the the concern about breaking down

systems like our health care our vaccination programs, the fact that we have herd immunity on things like polio, right, is that are we bringing back infectious diseases that have effectively been eradicated because someone like rfk jr. just decides he doesn't want to research it anymore? right. these are jobs that have been apolitical, that have continued for generations. is that can democrats protect that or help you know, keep that stable for a post-trump, um, you know era? >> well, that is that is a question i do agree with you somewhat. this is a question for democrats. are they going to go along with what the voters wanted and said they wanted last week, which is massive change, a real shock to the system here? or are they going to continue to be the nevertrump oh no, i can't possibly do that because donald trump wanted i mean, they're mad at nancy pelosi right now because she's out there waffling all over the place they can't they can't get anything straight. so i'm really curious to see whether they are going to stand up and say, yeah, we want to work with the president on getting immigration under control. yeah, we want to work with the

president on the tax bill. >> there was a bipartisan proposal, as you know, to get immigration under control and that was many months ago. that was many months ago. and that was also undermined by trump. so i'm not sure that the trump campaign when how that translates to the administration sees a value in this idea of bipartisanship or bringing along people that aren't weren't already with them. and that's typically what presidents try to do, is govern for everybody. and what i hear from so many republican colleagues and trump colleagues is they want to govern only for the trump majority do they do. americans want massive change, or do they want things to be more affordable? >> i think they want both. i say this all the time. donald trump, when he from when he first came down the escalator, there was one central theme to his that washington doesn't work for you. they think you're deplorable. they think you're garbage. all of the above. and we need wholesale change in this country. i don't think any voter walked into a voting booth and was not clear about that. do they want lower prices? god, yes, of course they do. it's up 20% over the course of the last four years. so of course they want that and they want the border under

control. they do need massive change here and listen, voters clearly voted for for change. >> the question is what is the change that they voted for? and if you have a project 2025 with quite extreme change laid out, which president trump denies, he has any connection to, and then proceeds to put people who sign that document into senior positions in power did did voters get misled then on how far trump wants to take some of these for instance, to the point of herd immunity on diseases like polio and measles? you know, is this something that we want to retreat from? >> again, this project? i mean, how many voters actually know what project 2025 is out there? i venture to guess not that many. we talk about it here it's a it's a very big inside the inside the beltway thing to talk about. i'm not certain a ton of voters actually know what it is, but again, i think it's not like his job is to help inform people as i was here, we can have a conversation. what the plans are. and so i'm just saying i don't think that voters plan. voters didn't go into a voting booth thinking project 20. no, they went in to your point

about lowering the cost of health care? no. they think that washington isn't working for them. they're looking for all different wholesale change here in washington. that's why i think the voters went for last week. to your point though, if if you can put people into his administration that were a part of project 2025, it's not every person that's going into his administration and it's not it doesn't define who they are. brendan carr is a very qualified individual. he currently sits on the fcc. so and again, there's a process for all of this. they're going to have to go before the senate. they're going to have to face a hearing. and unless they're recess appointments position from the current president or president elect, lance trover, thanks so much to both of you. coming up next how prosecutors say sean diddy combs used other inmates telephone accounts and three way calling to allegedly influence witnesses and taint the jury pool in his sex trafficking case. >> plus, president-elect trump confirming plans to use the can congress do anything about it? we'll have that ahead

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and communicate with witnesses so this obviously is to great detriment when it comes to his argument for bail, because a lot of that was based upon the judge's perception that there could be a problem with him communicating with witnesses if he is not behind bars so if he's doing this while incarcerated, well, what is he going to do when he's out, even with 24 hour security, as he proposed he's still going to try and evade that. so from the perspective of bail, incredibly problematic. >> so what is the effect right now of what he may have done when it's, you know, this idea of if he's been trying to get certain narratives out there, if he's been trying to as prosecutors allege, essentially blackmail witnesses. what could the effect have been on tainting the jury pool on intimidating witnesses and just obstructing this case yeah absolutely. >> there's a lot more that could happen. so the the initially the bail proceeding

that's obviously going to be the most impacted. but it could also add new charges. there could be a superseding indictment. there could be new counts of witness tampering there could be counts of obstruction of justice. and to the extent that he's leaking information, that could be evidence at the trial that would fill in fall into those legal theories as well that he is taking affirmative action to try and intervene in that legal process in an illegal way. so those could be all new charges. the other aspect is that there could be evidence presented at trial to say he's trying to contact this, these witnesses, because he knows what they're going to say is to his detriment. so it could be presented as an admission of guilt. so it certainly has an impact on him moving forward in several different respects. >> and the combs team is saying that personal notes that prosecutors uh, obtained from his jail cell include attorney client material about defense witnesses about strategy, who

could authorize that kind of search of his cell. tell us what kind of, you know, does this defense hold water yes this is actually very, very important because the defense clap back wrote a letter to the judge, said this is a violation of his fourth, fifth and sixth amendment rights. >> now important to understand when you're behind bars there is no expectation of privacy. it's different. a cell can be searched without probable cause, very different than if a warrant for your home needs to be presented so those cells can be searched. and prosecutors had said this was part of a pre-planned nationwide search by the federal bureau of prisons so not specifically relating to diddy that being said, even though there's no expectation of privacy and searches can be conducted, there is still a carve out for attorney client privileged materials. so to the extent that those materials were taken improperly and again, they go through what's called a filter team prosecutors sent there

through a team of people who identify what's privileged before it goes to the u.s. attorney's office. defense is saying that improper materials actually got to prosecutors that could have serious consequences brianna, if true that could mean that some of that evidence could be excluded. and any anything relating to that evidence that comes from it through an investigation could be excluded as well. so depending on what the defense will present, they've asked for an evidentiary hearing. how did this happen? what was taken? why wasn't it filtered out to the extent prosecutors have privileged material, there could be serious repercussions for the case moving forward to diddy benefit it's really interesting. >> misty morris, thank you so much. and next here, why democrats are reportedly growing tired of nancy pelosi. at least some of them >> black friday savings event.

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very, very good at bringing people together. but we all need to be doing this. we all need to be speaking out and talking about the issues that we care about. you know, i'm an italian right? i don't like that. everybody's like all the best people are. >> i don't like everybody knocking columbus day. okay, i understand the debate but i'm going to get attacked for that. you know i'm very pro-israel. i'm going to get attacked for defending israel. you know, i have 100% rating from the human rights campaign on lgbt issues but i'm confused and concerned about boys playing in girls sports. and we need to talk about that. and we need to be able to talk to each other and not be afraid that when we say something, we're going to get beaten up really a democrat because you're daring. i my campaign that i won my special election i talked about the border. yeah that's right. nobody was talking about the border and the democratic party before that. and people were saying to me, tom, why are you talking about the border? that's a republican issue no, it's an american issue. >> your win in that special should have been a message for democrats coming into this

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police. >> but before we go, question now before the house leadership, republican leadership is whether to release the matt gaetz report or at least supply it to the senate as they consider his potential nomination. well, he's been nominated as potential position as the attorney general should the house release that report. i think that they probably should. i mean, it's not like, you know, why would you bury something like that and the senate is asking for that report is my understanding. and so, you know, every, every candidate for a cabinet position is supposed to be vetted. that's the constitution. okay republicans say the constitution, the constitution that's the constitution. the senate has to vet these candidates. that's what we need to be doing. so we as democrats have to be using some of the republican arguments against them. they can't just use it for when it suits their purposes. let's support the united states constitution and have the senate vet the candidates advise and consent. it's written in the document, congressman tom suozzi, thank you so much. thank you, as always at least one person has died. dozens more have been sickened in an e coli outbreak linked now to carrots. where

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concerned here anybody who has shopped for carrots since mid august need to check their fridges for these brands. >> and these specific expiration dates. this applies to organic baby carrots and organic whole carrots and there's a number of brands. this is all on the cdc's website. but things from cal organic to nature's and for the baby carrots they had sell by dates of september 11th to november 12th. for the whole organic carrots they actually don't have sell by dates on their bags, but they were in stores from august 14th to october 23rd, and so they're not thought to be on shelves anymore. but of course they could be still in our fridges. i checked mine last night and we hadn't bought organic this time, so i was like, okay, we're all right with these. but those are what people should be checking. as you said, there's been 39 cases that have been detected. and of course, the cdc is still conducting these investigations. it can take a while sometimes to piece together. if somebody got sick and it's related to a certain

investigation. 15 hospitalizations and one death across 18 states. and you can see these are really spread out across the entire country. they're not centralized in one location. so folks should check their fridges for whole organic carrots and organic baby carrots with those brands. and you can go on cdc's website to get the specific ones brianna, i did buy organic so i know what i'll be doing after the show. >> i always have them in my crisper. so note to self thanksgiving is next week, and i know that a lot of people, they're going to be cooking with carrots meg. so do they need to be careful only if carrots because it's not expected that these are still on shelves of course, you know, check everything on the shelves. >> make sure but since we're past the sell by dates, that shouldn't be a concern but if people are getting sick obviously from food, the things to look out for in terms of e coli are vomiting, severe stomach

cramps, diarrhea. if these things last a long time, or they come with a fever, or they're very severe, people should get medical attention. and typically people get better themselves within 5 to 7 days. but it can be severe. so folks should be looking out for those. hopefully not around thanksgiving. brianna. yeah hopefully not. i normally don't buy organic carrots. it just so happens so just remember that meg tirrell thank you so much and everyone else check your fridge. health officials concerned about president-elect trump's pick for hhs secretary. and now robert f. kennedy jr.. s own family describing quote dangerous. next we're going to be joined by a former anti-vax what changed her mind and what she wants other parents to know >> wow. my go to is lumify eye drops lumify dramatically reduces redness in one minute. and look at the difference my eyes look brighter and whiter

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