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$30 million in trust. >> money has been set aside. you may be entitled to a portion of that money. call one 800 859 2400. that's one 800 859 2400. >> president elect trump pushes forward with key appointments to his administration determined to get his controversial cabinet picks confirmed. now this as a florida court fight could mean more scrutiny for his attorney general. pick and a major policy change by the biden administration. ukraine can now use long range american missiles, american made missiles for attacks inside russia. the kremlin says it will only add oil to the fire. and after frustrating technical glitches during the mike tyson jake paul fight some are wondering if netflix is ready for prime time with other big sporting events on the horizon, including their first ever nfl game with beyonce as the halftime show. we're following these major developing stories
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and many more, all coming in right here to cnn news central standing by for the latest administration picks from president elect trump in the 13 days since the election, trump has moved at a dizzying pace to assemble what is an unorthodox team, to say the least. >> so far, he is refusing to back down from any of his cabinet picks, even if some of the most controversial ones may face an uphill confirmation battle. even among republicans in the senate. trump's newest administration pick is brendan carr to head the federal communications commission. the fcc car is currently an fcc commissioner and authored a chapter of proposed changes to the agencies in that document. project 2025. that's the right wing plan that trump tried to claim. no connection to during the campaign. we are also now
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learning that trump is expanding his search for a treasury secretary as several top candidates are jockeying behind the scenes for what is a very powerful job. cnn's kristen holmes joins us now. so, kristen why this expanding search and who is he looking at friday that this announcement was coming on friday. >> now it's monday. we have an expanded field and two new candidates who are meeting with donald trump today to go over that position as he tries to figure out who is going to actually be his secretary of treasury. now just so we have a little bit of background here, we were told about a week ago, a week and a half ago that scott bessent, who is a hedge fund manager, was in the lead that he was likely to get this job. everything had been smooth sailing until howard lutnick, the head of the transition, stepped in and essentially said that he wanted the job. howard, we're told behind the scenes, has been jockeying for this position pretty extensively. i was described to me as a knife
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fight at various times, scott bessent has been brought back to mar-a-lago to meet again with donald trump. trump has an entire team of transition staff that's working specifically on treasury. they were meeting last friday i'm told they were supposed to come up with an answer to go back to donald trump with later that day. obviously that didn't happen. so now the field has been extended, goes a little bit to show you about some of what is happening behind the scenes, because of the fact that this is such a powerful position. one thing to note, lutnick is very close to donald trump, but i've been told that donald trump has not been that happy with the way lutnick has handled this whole situation, so we'll see how it unfolds it would be a very dick cheney like move, wouldn't it be to head the search committee and then say, actually, i should be at the top of your search list? >> all right trump, in typical fashion refusing to back down from any of his choices, i wonder. i mean, you've covered him for so long, given the amount of public attention and scrutiny and frankly allegations against gaetz is he
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going to stick with that or do you see him changing his mind, which he's done before as well i was told as recently as yesterday that he is 100% all in on matt gaetz, that in fact, this is his most important choice. >> i was told this by a number of senior advisers who believe that donald trump is not going to back away from this choice, that while there might be some others who are controversial in the field, they could potentially have their neck on the line, even though he does want all of them to be confirmed, but that gaetz is one that they are going to try their hardest to push through. >> we'll see if republican senators agree. kristen holmes, thanks so much, brianna. >> the house ethics committee now preparing to meet wednesday when they could decide the fate of their report on former congressman matt gaetz, now the president elect's pick to lead the justice department and members have been investigating these allegations of sexual misconduct. also illegal drug use against gaetz but since his abrupt resignation from congress, it's unclear if that report will ever see the light of day here with us. now we have cnn chief legal affairs
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correspondent paula reid and also cnn legal analyst elliot williams with us. and we're getting paula some new insight into what is going on in the house ethics committee report. actually through a civil lawsuit in florida. it's kind of like a side door roundabout thing, but it's actually quite illuminating. yeah, it is. this is a lawsuit that was filed by a friend, a former congressman gaetz, against another one of the friends, joel greenberg, who is in jail after pleading guilty to several crimes and the woman who is allegedly 17 years old when she had sex with the former congressman. he sued both of them and as a result, they had to engage in discovery. they created a whole new record of evidence. now the underage victim was deposed but her deposition, as well as other women in this case, they are all under seal. but lawyers got kind of crafty and used some of what is under seal in their questions to the man who filed this lawsuit. so we're
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getting a little bit of glimmer of what that underage formerly underage woman said. for example, the lawyers asked the asked gaetz's friend and you heard her testimony that she said that you observed her and matt gaetz having sex on an air hockey table. now, this witness denies that he saw that. but the lawyer also throws in that the friend of the underage woman who brought her to the party testified that she too had sex with gaetz at the same gathering so they're taking information that's under seal and including it in these questions that they knew would not likely be under seal. it's public record, in fact, but it gives you a sample of the kind of evidence that the house ethics committee has gathered in its investigation, because we know they trace this civil litigation pretty closely, sort of as a road map in terms of who to talk to and where to go. >> and, elliot, i do want to note you've been on both sides of this process here because you've been on the senate confirmation side of the process at doj, and also as an aide of the senate judiciary committee. and i just wonder if there's a playbook here, because we were sort of looking at each other as paula was reading what was described there in that quoted deposition
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and just the idea that this didn't like, immediately sink someone is pretty amazing. there is a playbook, and it's right in the constitution. article one and article two, which lays out how people are confirmed for positions look, you know, it's funny that you point to my senate work. there's nothing that senators care about more than their prerogative to vet nominees that the president puts forward of any party. literally, it's the biggest check and balance they have on the executive branch seriously. all of these questions, these serious questions that are in the public record or if not in the public record, at least in documents, ought to be made available to the senate. and they can be, even if we and the public don't see them. senators can see all of this in closed session and review it and make their determination as to whether somebody is fit for for higher office. >> they get some of this privileged stuff. and politico's actually reporting that democrats on the senate judiciary committee have discussed requesting the file from the closed fbi investigation is there
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political precedent for that? do you expect they'll get that? >> i don't know if you've heard of hillary clinton. i have heard of hillary clinton's name. >> but, you know, it's a closed investigation. and those what are called fbi 300 twos, those investigative records were made public after the fact. and they can again, the public does not necessarily have to see them, but senators can and they have a long precedent and a long background for getting access to information in closed session looking at it and deciding before they go into a big hearing on it. >> and you expect that they'll see it then in terms of the 302, it's unclear specifically that. but i think it's interesting they've also asked for all the materials that the house ethics committee has gathered, and that's important because, you know, not everything that they gather will necessarily make it into the report, which is why they're casting a wider net in terms of their preservation request it's also why we cast a wider net in our reporting. we want to know all about the evidence that they've gathered. while things that are incriminating exonerating, because we know, even if we get this report, it's not going to have everything in it. >> you know, that also just jogs my memory. going back to the report that was compiled
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about bill clinton and monica lewinsky, republicans looked into everything that was investigated, not just what was in the report. and it was some of those things that they found most troubling they sort of went through, like filing boxes to do it. do you think that we will ever actually see the report, though, whether it is official or whether it is leaked? do you think that's unlikely? it's possible. political pressure is mounting for them to release it. again, this is the nominee to be the nation's top law enforcement official. enormous political pressure not to hide an ethics report that at least explored allegations of having sex with a minor. there is also the possibility it can leak. i'll tell you this committee, the ethics committee they do not leak. that's partially to protect the people they investigate, also to protect their witnesses right. their process. but the former congressman, he has a lot of detractors and enemies on the hill. it would not shock me if this eventually leaked. somehow. proponents of his nomination will say, you know, this is a hunt because he this was closed. it didn't go
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forward at doj but critics of this will say that's not the threshold. >> it's not so explain explain that why it's not the threshold. oh, brianna the threshold for going to jail is being found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law. if you know someone who has been charged with a crime or not charged with a crime, they may not go to jail, but there's still a reputational hit that they have taken. let's use an even more obvious example. if someone were investigated for a crime but not charged with it, you wouldn't let them watch your children, does it matter if it's a sex crime or something else? employment decisions can be based on allegations and it's perfectly plausible to say that the mere fact that someone has been investigated by both law enforcement and his own employer for sexual misconduct ought to be sufficient to not give that person a sort of higher employment that they're seeking. so this whole idea of, well, he wasn't charged with a
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crime or wasn't convicted of a crime. yes he's a free citizen and we ought to embrace that. but that doesn't mean he should be attorney general of the united states that is true. >> i do want to be careful, though, because of course, we are entering into an era where it is expected that trump will try to use president elect. trump will try to use the justice department to pursue his political enemies and if we get to a place where someone was investigated for something and not charged, if they weren't convicted, i mean, that opens the door to potentially ruin a lot of people's lives. so i do think we should again proceed with caution. what's unique about the former congressman is he's up for this job, which would make him the nation's top law enforcement officer. and if there are questions about what happened in a criminal probe, that seems like fair game. but i think it is absolutely a question where intelligent minds can disagree about whether all the evidence against you should be laid on the table. if you were not charged and or convicted. to your point, yeah it's a good academic debate and i think it will come up again paula elliott, thank you so much to both of you, jim. >> well, we are also following new reports on growing tension between trump's close ally, elon musk, and one of the president-elect's most
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powerful and longest term loyalists. during a dinner at mar-a-lago axios reports of a heated confrontation between mosque and trump adviser boris epstein, the article says, quote, at one point during what the sources described as a massive blowup, musk accused epstein of leaking details of trump's transition including personnel picks to the media. epstein responded by telling musk that he didn't know what he was talking about. i'm joined now by alex thompson, cnn political analyst, national political reporter for axios. i wonder how serious this division is, right and is this a case where musk is likely to win out or epstein? i mean, musk is quite close to the president elect right now. >> i mean, watch this space because it's it's the first in what is going to be a series of conflicts. i mean, you are donald trump is going to try to be the most powerful executive branch that we've had at least in decades, maybe ever. which means there's a lot of decisions to make. and elon musk is obviously very
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influential. he also has a lot of government contracts. now boris epstein, what he has is a long standing relationship with president trump. he also has never he's managed to stay in that orbit without being completely cast out. i can tell you many of trump's lawyers left his legal team because they were sick of boris epstein. he is very much entrenched in this world. >> what about musk? because you have heard a story here and there about trump's patience for musk specifically. listen trump is someone who likes very much to be the center of attention. he is, after all, the president elect musk is used to being the center of attention as well. >> yeah, at the moment you've seen them basically co-mingle in this space. and that's also because they had a united mission, which was win the election. now you're already seeing elon musk tweeting saying, you know, i think this person should be treasury secretary. and, you know, how is it going to trump now? is trump going to sort of respect sort of the leverage the play, or is he going to get tired of the of this game? you know, he's the only one that makes appointment by tweet. >> now one other thing that musk is doing by tweet is doing polling right. if you want to call it that or little surveys
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about do you like this guy or do you like this guy? for these poll, why is that just for fun? or is he actually testing the market as it were? >> i think it's a little bit of both. i think. you know, he's someone that posts first and ask questions later. i also think you're already seeing him do the same thing with this department of government efficiency, which isn't really a department. it's sort of a separate task force. and they're basically putting big government decisions up for twitter polls. >> exit polls. they're also putting big government positions in the hands of someone who has massive business before big government. yeah, elon musk and not just, by the way, spacex, but also, i mean government policy will affect the future of tesla. >> the conflicts of interest. it's hard to know where they start and where they end. even like the the person they appointed to head the fcc just yesterday. he has been a huge advocate of expanding starlink, which is part of spacex, but a huge elon musk company. it could mean hundreds of millions of dollars for his company. >> this is the i mean there are open conflicts of interest right there before our eyes, whether they are acted upon is
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another question. but they appear in broad daylight. alex thompson, thanks so much. still to come, the kremlin is accusing the u.s. of throwing, quote, oil on the fire of war. of course, this is the country that invaded ukraine. two and a half years ago. not happy, though about president biden allowing ukraine to use u.s. made missiles for long range attacks inside russia. plus, growing concern from ukraine's neighbor to the west as kyiv's war with russia takes what could be an ominous turn. i speak with poland's president ahead and day two of the laken riley trial is underway. what we're learning from an officer who spoke to the defendant in the case political analysis. >> we have questions. >> how do i set the right off? >> stayed awake. >> why did trump pull out of 60 minutes? >> i love pulling out. this is a news network. >> have i got news for you? saturday at nine on c
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brazil for the final g20 summit of his presidency, just a day after to fire american made long range missiles into russian territory. >> this is a decision that the kremlin is warning, quote throws oil on the fire. a u.s. official says the weapons are intended to be used primarily in russia's southern kursk region. that's where, according to the state department, there are now more than 11,000 north korean troops supporting moscow's combat operations against kyiv. let's bring in cnn's kayla tausche, who is traveling with the president in rio de janeiro. kayla, tell us about biden's agenda and what you're hearing about this major policy shift well this major policy shift, brianna, we're told, came together in recent days and was spurred by two catalysts in particular. >> number one, what the president saw as a very brazen decision by russia to recruit
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more than 10,000 north korean troops to assist in its war in ukraine and number two, an aerial attack that's taken place in the last 24 hours that represents the most ukraine's energy infrastructure in together, you have to imagine, coupled with biden's waning days in office, led him to ukraine to use these atacms long range missiles to strike up to 200 miles into russian territory. we understand these weapons in the kursk region and western russia where ukraine is going to try to defend and continue holding some russian territory that it has occupied. as of august, and now faces a new threat from russia there that the goal of ukraine had previously been to use that territory to try to get putin and russia to the negotiating table for some sort of peace deal, and that in the u.s .'s eyes, still remains the
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g20 the politics and the diplomacy is very complicated. in remarks to the group this morning, president biden acknowledged it was his final g20 summit and urged the group to pursue two goals. number one, ukraine's sovereignty and number two, to urge hamas toward a ceasefire deal in gaza. those were the two priorities that he left the group with, and he urged them to continue the work toward a sustainable future and to continue the progress that they've achieved over these last four years. it's a relatively quiet summit for president biden many of these world leaders are already focusing on what the u.s. and its incoming administration will look like. there are a few final official events for the president before he heads home tomorrow. brianna. >> and, of course, president-elect trump is not there. and yet he is looming large over the g20 in rio. kayla >> i mean, almost every single g20 leader who is here in rio has made a personal phone call to the president elect to
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congratulate him and in some cases invite him to visit their country in a bid to smooth over relations, many with many of these allies and adversaries were marked by tension during trump's first term. they're congregating behind the scenes and amongst each other about exactly what that second term will look like and how they can brace themselves and insulate their economies. that of course, is still a work in progress, and it does, to a certain extent, leave biden the odd man out. brianna kayla tausche live for us from rio. thank you jim. >> watching all of this extremely closely is the nation of poland. which of course shares a border with ukraine stretching more than 330 miles. an outspoken ally of ukraine. poland's president said last year the only guarantee of peace is the defeat of russia. it was also the first nato nation to send fighter jets to ukraine. a short time ago, the polish president, andrzej duda, told me that he welcomes biden's choice to allow long range missile attacks on russia by ukraine, using u.s. made
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weapons what i believe ukraine needs very much today is to lift all the constraints and limits in using the allied assistance so i'm very delighted with the decision taken by president biden. >> i think that this is a sensible decision which, under the current circumstances, was very much needed, and it shows in a clear way especially it shows russia, which in recent days has increased considerably. its attacks, especially its missile strikes we can all say that. so this decision is showing russia that not only ukraine, but also the countries of the west, the united states which support ukraine, do not give up. they do not retreat. the fact that ukraine will be able to use missiles, russians will have to >> and for sure this is going to make the attacks on ukraine more difficult. so this is a very good decision and i'm
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delighted with it. >> of course, the u.s. elected a new president and you had the opportunity to speak with president elect trump after the election. did he communicate to you any continued support for ukraine and for nato as well for the period of four years, i had the honor and pleasure to work with president donald trump because he already was the president of the united states for one term in office, and indeed, we did cooperate back then, both within nato and he also supported our initiative, the three seas initiative in central europe. i am calm and peaceful about what kind of policy vis a vis russia. president donald trump will be implementing. for sure. it will not be as soft policy, but of course, in our conversation, i said to president donald trump and i repeated that because i already mentioned that point before when we met back in april, i
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told him how from our polish perspective, the russian aggression against ukraine before we go, sweden and finland, of course, the newest members of nato have updated guidance to their citizens on how to survive a war. >> this of course, is nato looks to the russia threat. i wonder is that necessary advice to the european public at this time? and would you recommend that polish citizens make the same preparations? >> i'm calm and peaceful in poland. we are consistent in our policy of strengthening our security. today we are spending more than 4% of our gdp on defense next year in next year's budget we will be spending 4.7% of our gdp on defense that is why i appeal to all our allies in nato to increase their defense spending
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to at least 3% of their gdp because russian imperialism is back on the political arena and at a time when the soviet imperialism posed a threat to the west, i'm speaking about the times of the iron curtain, the times of the cold war, nato countries were spending exactly 3% of their gdp on defense, and there was no war. and the soviet union did not deal with it economically. it simply collapsed. so i believe that if nato countries now are consistent in their policy, if they are not provoked, then no additional actions apart from modernization and strengthening of the armed forces is the only thing we need. we do not need to do anything more. there will be no war because russia will not dare attack a strong nato. >> one can hope. president duda, thank you so much for taking the time to join us
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cornish. listen wherever you get your podcasts courtroom prosecutors played a recorded jailhouse phone call between murder suspect jose ibarra and his wife as she confronted him about what happened to laken riley, the 22 year old nursing student who was attacked while jogging at the university of georgia back in february. >> cnn's rafael romo is outside of court in athens, georgia. for us, rafael, who testified today two police officers and fbi special agent and a crime scene specialist. >> in the last hour, we heard very powerful testimony in the form of a phone call that jose ibarra placed from prison to his wife in new york, lilian franco. that was played here in the courtroom. and the call the exasperated wife says that she's tired of the suspect and urges him to tell the truth. at one point, she asked, how can anyone see a person die and not
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call 911? today also, jim and brianna, on the second day of the trial against jose ibarra, we also heard from a university of georgia police officer who testified to seeing injuries on the suspect. he said looked like fingernail scratches. sergeant joshua epps described his encounter with ibarra the morning of february 23rd. one day after nursing student laken riley was murdered while she was out for a run. the prosecution showed multiple pictures of ibarra showing scratches and bruises in his arms, wrists, hands and lips. this is how sergeant epps described what he saw while speaking to him. um, i noticed on his right arm his bicep. there was a scratch which i identified as a potential defensive wound. >> um noticed on his right arm his bicep, there was a scratch, which i identified as a potential defensive wound.
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>> um, on his left arm. he had a forearm. scratch that was very similar, which in my mind, i looked like fingernail scratches to me sergeant of a spanish speaking officer, corporal rafael sayan, also with the university of georgia police department, noticed multiple injuries in ibarra as well, and testified that he saw injuries on the suspect, who gave very vague answers when asked about them as to why ibarra had all those injuries, corporal sergeant said quote, he didn't give me a clear answer at all. >> he also testified that ibarra and the other people in the apartment were laughing and very relaxed. he said the day after laken riley murder. also today we heard testimony from a crime scene specialist from the georgia bureau of investigation who found plastic restaurant style kitchen gloves and electronic devices in ibarra's apartment gym. brianna.
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>> so tell us about the mood inside the courtroom were there. that always creates some powerful moments. i imagine small courtroom. >> and this morning, for the beginning of the proceedings, we mother, alison phillips, stepfather john phillips but multiple members of the family and friends. they filled up as many as three rows. so the courtroom was very, very packed and at moments it becomes very emotional when the prosecution shows some of those pictures that are so graphic, so very difficult to see. >> jim, brianna rafael romo, thank you for the latest from athens georgia. ambassador caroline kennedy is speaking out about her cousin, robert f. kennedy jr. stance on vaccines, calling it dangerous. next, we'll talk to a mother who used to share his views
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yes, i think bobby kennedy's views on vaccines are dangerous and and i but i don't think that most americans share them. >> so um, we'll just have to wait and see what happens. but certainly he's, um, you know, i grew up with him, so i've known all this for a long time. and, and others are just getting to know him i want to talk more about this now with heather simpson she's a former anti-vaccine influencer turned pro-vaccine advocate who says that she was swayed by rfk jr.. >> s anti-vax rhetoric. heather thanks for being with us. can you just start by talking a little bit about what it was about rfk jr. and about the message that sort of swayed you to this position initially >> my ex-husband and i were trying for a baby, and you know, we were bringing life
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into the world and we have to be responsible for this life. so we were looking everywhere for answers on on anything related to children and vaccines. and we stumbled upon a docu series with rfk jr. as one of the prominent figures in this docu series. and i was like, wow this is this series is full of doctors and and, um lawyers and politicians. they must be telling the truth. and i listened to them and i remember watching, um, rfk jr. and thinking, wow, he's not he says he's only for safe vaccines and that he's not anti-vax, so he must be middle ground. and he's still saying don't necessarily vaccinate. i really, you know i kind of trust this guy. and that just kind of snowballed into me becoming this anti-vax quote, unquote influencer after that and not vaccinating our child at the time. >> and you thought if you vaccinated your child that she would die. so how how did you get from that to, uh
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coming, sort of coming coming back ultimately to, to a 180 on on vaccines. what changed your mind know so many of my anti-vax friends at the time and still now have so much anxiety. >> they just want to keep their child alive as most parents do. and so i truly, like you just said, thought that if we vaccinated my daughter, she would die. that night. there was not a doubt in my mind based on info i had been given, which was misinformation when i finally changed my mind, it was facts that did it. you know, i reached out to some scientists and some doctors after or during covid right when it first began, and i asked about aluminum, about formaldehyde, about polysorbate 80. and i said, you really can't convince me that these are not going to cause autism, that certain ingredients. and i even broke it down into like, specific mechanisms because my anti-vax group had these theories like you know, this is how aluminum
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slips past the blood brain barrier. this is how it causes inflammation. and they were able to break that down into the literal science. and be completely transparent and just tell me the facts about vaccines so amazingly, it just blew my mind when they told me i was like i was so wrong. i can vaccinate confidently. i just needed somebody to sit down and explain that to me. >> and you were open to having it explained to you. certainly at a certain point. but i wonder what worries you about having a vaccine skeptic like rfk jr. getting such a high profile platform as being hhs secretary so i have advocated for vaccines for years. >> you know, i travel and speak about them and i have always spoken out against rfk jr. because he was so influential to me, becoming anti-vaccine and so the narrative and just my friends, the narrative is
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horrifying. my friends are horrified about this potential situation with rfk jr.. i had someone call me yesterday and say, do you know he is going to abolish vaccines? and i thought i'm not sure that that is the case. so i started researching more of what he has said exactly and i'm not as, um concerned. i'll hear me out. i don't agree with him at all. we have opposite views on vaccines, but he is for choice. he is for consent and he's for holding pharmaceutical companies liable. and so i do believe in, you know, as someone on the left, i believe in choice and consent. and so i do think when we look at the facts, because that is what changed my mind with vaccines, when we look at the facts with rfk jr., i don't believe that it's as catastrophic as we think. i do believe that he does hold views that are very different than my my friends and myself. doctors but i do not believe that he is as dangerous in his policy, in the
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actual facts of what he stands for. >> i think that, and i think there are a lot of people who look at some of his messages heather, and they say on its face, you know, that's great chronic illness, food safety. i mean, who isn't going to agree on its face with some of these things as, as good ideas but when it comes down to a position that initially, you know, won, you over or, you know, for instance there's a story out today where he's talking about, um, you know, certain medications being so unsafe that certain countries don't even prescribe them when actually they do. so he's just stating something that isn't true. do you worry if he says something that is not true, that it's going to influence people >> um, but i do worry about that with most politicians and everyone. i think everyone should be held accountable for
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speaking the truth so i do think as far as his policy is concerned, that we are for the choice to and the consent and, you know, holding pharmaceutical companies liable, but also holding him liable for speaking the truth on things that could affect public health. so again, i don't agree with him on his views about vaccines at all. so i'm not i'm not totally sure what to say on that. but as far as policy, i think that is more of a solid thing. >> yeah. look i see your point. we should certainly hold politicians accountable for the truth and look skeptically on a lot of statements heather simpson simpson, thank you so much. we appreciate your time today thank you. and we'll be right back the year? >> visit cnn heroes.com. >> my plane has a mechanical problem. i'll try to get there as soon as i can breakfast looks delicious as always.
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northernmost town in the united states is about to say goodbye to the sun. for more than two months in just a few hours utqiagvik. i think i got that right. good job. it's way up there. will begin its long polar night because of the earth's tilt this time of year. the town's nearly 5000 residents are going to live in darkness for 66 days. >> their next sunrise won't happen until january 22nd. on the bright side, literally summers in this remote arctic enclave are filled with light. they actually have 83 straight days of full sun between may and august. i don't know, jim. that might be too much of a good thing. >> then you got to pay for it. you got to pay for it later. 66 days of dark. i mean, if you watch it. we were talking about it. a true detective night country. i mean, there's some spooky stuff yeah. >> if you're afraid of the dark, it's rough the lead with jake tapper starts right now

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