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>> he was the last exit ramp. >> he was the one where you were like, oh let me. yeah, let me try nope. can't do it. >> no he made you gay. >> he somehow looks like tammy faye baker and her husband new episode of have i got news for you. >> it airs tomorrow night at 9 p.m.. right here on cnn. that is eastern time for those of you on daylight savings time. anyway thank you very much for watching news night. laura coates live starts right now for donald trump's next administration. >> and frankly deepening questions about the ones he's already chosen. plus two brothers who say they helped jussie smollett
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are asking, is it even legal? tonight on laura coates live a friday night of rapid fire breaking news. we've got some pretty big developments on donald trump's cabinet, by the way, and we're also getting an idea of the wrecking ball that he wants to bring to the agency. he seems to despise the most the justice department. first, trump is tapping scott bessent for his treasury secretary. it's the most important post that he had yet to fill. he is a billionaire hedge fund manager who once worked for a longtime gop boogeyman, george soros. he is tasked with turning trump's controversial economic policy promises into a kind of washington d.c. reality, including tax cuts and new
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tariffs but will he be able to help ease anxieties of a country deeply concerned about the economy stupid. we'll get into all of that, along with a slew of other picks that trump has announced tonight spent time in the tv world at fox news. and speaking of controversies, right when you thought the trump transition team put one to bed after matt gaetz bowed out, another one pops right up this time it's scrutiny over tulsi gabbard his pick to lead, of course, the intelligence community. she has been under fire for her history of siding with america's enemies like russia and syria. and now we're learning she was put on a government watch list earlier this year. it's called quiet skies, and it triggers additional screenings before flights. sources say that she was briefly placed on it because of her overseas travel and her foreign connections. she was removed, though, after going public with this message,
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claiming it was retaliation for criticizing kamala harris my own government has placed me on a secret terror watch list targeting me as a potential domestic terror threat. >> why political retaliation? >> now, to be clear the tsa says this is not a terror watch list, and sources flatly denied this was any kind of political retaliation. but it is unprecedented. there is such a high level nominee to have been put on a government watch list. trump's choice of gabbard as dni is in line with his intention to shake up the foreign policy establishment, but his sights may be on the justice department more than anything or anywhere else. tonight, the washington post is reporting that trump plans to fire the entire team. the entire team that worked with special counsel jack smith. and on top of all that, he wants to put together teams within the doj to hunt down evidence in
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battleground states that election. one problem there is no widespread fraud or evidence of that in the 2020 election. joining me now, cnn chief law enforcement and intelligence analyst john miller. he also served as the assistant deputy director for national intelligence also here, former deputy assistant attorney general harry litman. he's also the host of the talking feds podcast that just launched a substack. gentlemen, good to have both of you here. john look, i was a career prosecutor at doj. they are talking about firing dozens of career staffers prosecutors, fbi agents and others. is this the beginning of the retribution that president-elect trump as a candidate promised? >> well, it may well be. it certainly sounds like it but in the end, it may end up hurting them more than it hurts the people who are the target because as you and mr. litman
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both know, and as i know from my time in the department of justice at the fbi, a it's hard to fire career government employees protected by civil service, but more importantly they're putting the cart before the horse. there is a process for this. you go to opr i don't need to tell you guys what that is, but for the audience, that's the office of professional responsibility. it's the internal investigators of the department of justice. you can't just fire people because you feel like it. so opr would have to do a full investigation. opr is also made up of career justice department people. they would have to find out that individuals, not a group, but specific people, did something wrong and they would have to show that evidence. and that would be firing for cause. this whole idea of i'm just going to fire him because i'm mad about the case, that's not going to work. and it might make them rich. >> and of course, there's the morale issue. i can't imagine being a member of the doj right now, hearing this, thinking this might be coming in because newsflash everyone, there are other cases and matters that doj works on. they don't have anything to do with donald
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trump or anyone else. but harry. the washington post is also reporting that trump wants to assemble investigative teams within the doj to hunt for evidence in battleground states that fraud tainted the 2020 election. now, by the way, harry, this has been investigated. it also has been debunked by his own ag. bill barr called it bs the post notes it's not a fully baked idea, but how would all of this play out >> because what essentially we're talking about is ordering doj career folks to go into court and make these representations that are false, and you have obligations to the court and the courts here are going to absolutely slap doj lawyers around. and just to john's point on this reprisal stuff it is both sinister and stupid. sinister because it's sort of the core kind of feature of an authoritarian government that you put your
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prosecutorial apparatus at the behest of a president for, for making trouble for no reason stupid. because, as he said, this is going to cost them millions of dollars. just look at andrew mccabe. if they can make their lives miserable. but if they try to fire them, they've got to go through hoops they'll never be able to do it and they'll wind up as they wound up owing andrew mccabe nearly a million dollars. that's what it will be for each of the folks. but make no mistake, you've been there. we've all been there. it's going to make the place just completely miserable. it's going to tear it down. just in terms of morale. people are already heading for the hills. there's a kind of resume search all over d.c.. >> i wonder, of course, the evidence that they have produced and of course, the report we're waiting to possibly see from the likes of jack smith hands it over to merrick garland. and what will happen in this interim period. but, john, cnn reporting is that trump's dni pick tulsi gabbard was was briefly placed on a government watch list, not
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a secret terror watch list. as she claims. but what exactly is quiet skies and is it concerning to you that she was flagged and placed on it? >> well, it's not the no fly list, but it is an indicator that is developed by computer algorithms and intelligence information. that's shared, where you basically reach a score. but if a particular traveler is traveling in the travel patterns of terrorist groups that have been documented by intelligence and cases that passenger can get flagged as someone where they would do enhanced screening before they got on the plane. a key to this is they would notify the air marshals on the flight. we have someone with a suspicious travel pattern this is the seat they're in. you know, keep an eye on them. have some awareness of that. and on the back end of that flight, there might be some questions about their trip as they came back in but as you said, once they found out the purpose of her travel and that she was a
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former member of congress, that went away quickly. so it's it's one of those things where the mechanics of the process worked. but the intent missed i'd be curious to see how the intelligence community views all of this. >> and hearings to come john. harry, thank you both. so much. >> thanks thanks, john now on to president-elect trump's flurry of new cabinet picks. >> tonight. i want to bring in white house economics reporter for the washington see you. look, the economy, everyone said was the number one issue for voters. so tell me what is this? treasury secretary pick mean and bring to the table struggled to pick this most crucial of cabinet positions really, because he wants two things that are in direct conflict. >> he wants massive tariffs on all u.s. trading partners as high as 10 or 20%. and he simultaneously wants someone who has the respect of wall street, who the stock market
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can grow under and who can manage capital markets difficult situations that could arise in the bond market and do that with with sort of respectability and prestige scott bessent seems to fit both criteria as well as possible, but long term it will be very, very difficult for him to impose these tariffs without leaving the stock market to to, you know, suffer serious shocks. >> speaking of tariffs, by the way trump has called that i think the most beautiful word tariffs. but economists as you've pointed out in the past, they they worry that they are inflationary. so if you're decent how do you balance those two objectives. and thoughts trump's mnuchin was famous for taking trump's sort of expansive trade proposals looking at them very closely and then putting them in a file cabinet where no one would see them for years. >> and that was an approach that the markets really liked, and that helped sort of mitigate trump did many things to crack down on trade with china, but it kept a lid on the
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extent of those actions and so bessent will have this difficult role trying to navigate the trade hawks, the people who want to go more and more aggressive on china and other countries. i think my understanding from sources familiar that that he sees himself as as likely to play a similar role effectuating some of trump's instincts on on trade. but but preventing things from getting out of control because trump at some level understands that people want the economy to grow, they want they may want tariffs, they may think they sound good, they may want a rebalancing of trade. but if consumers are paying much higher cost for chinese products, that could be a real downside for trump's popularity. >> i expedient implementation of his policies now that, of course, he's aware of what you have said and has been about mnuchin's previous policies. but it might ultimately correct itself. who knows? we'll have to wait and see. let me ask you this about trump, though because he also announced the project 2025 coauthor russell vought, who is returning now to the white house budget office,
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saying that russ knows exactly how to dismantle the deep state and and weaponize government. what do you expect his first order of business to be work since he served in this same position. >> in the first trump administration, coming up with a series of legal arguments to massively expand the power of the presidency in ways that we haven't seen in a very long time, if ever, that includes legal justifications for deploying the military to deal with civil unrest in cities democratic cities to expand the ability of the president to cut spending unilaterally without congressional approval and other measures to purge the justice department and to change federal regulations again, without congressional oversight. um, mr. vote has been committed to very conservative causes for decades and has written about how he
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sees us now as being in what he calls a post-constitutional era and called for what he himself has called radical constitutionalism to wrench the u.s. government out of where it is currently, and to sort of more conservative direction. but one where there's much more power arrogated to the executive branch and so i think russ vought is a sleeper for one of the most important um, people in all of government under trump, the budget chief is responsible for overseeing not just, um, you know spending, but but sort of the cross section of agencies, hud and hhs and all these different other federal agencies they work through omb. and so his ability to sort of oversee that nexus will be absolutely crucial to executing many of the the ideas that the conservative movement and that trump has wanted for a long time. >> we'll have to see what the true mandate really is for the american people and whether what you've described would be in line with any of that. jeff stein, thank you so much my pleasure thanks for having me on. i want to talk now with
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republican strategist lance trover and also cnn political commentator and democratic strategist maria cardona. glad to have both of you here thinking about these. i remember the friday nights of the first trump administration. it was always something new happening. tonight is no exception. to begin with, you, lance, the president elect denied that there is any ties to project 2025. and now we see that we have one other person associated with it, a coauthor of it. now, putting into the administration. listen to this. secretly recorded conversation with the nonprofit center for climate reporting 80% of my time is necessary to take control of these bureaucracies. >> i want to be the person who crushes the deep state. i think there's a lot of different ways to do that. it is defunding it. it's impoundment. the ability to not spend money. it's getting rid of their independence i mean, speaking about mandates, is that going to be in line?
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>> you think project 2025. this is such an inside the beltway topic to me. i don't know of any voter out there that's really focused on project 2025. everybody inside the media and a failed democratic talking point, by the way, they spent millions of dollars throughout that campaign to talk about project 2025. look, they have an administration. they need to fill. there's 4000 spots that they need to fill. some of these people may be associated with that, but not every person is going to be associated with project 2025. and i would also say that project 2025 also includes some things like lowering taxes, that things that have been stalwarts for the republican party for years. so again this to me is just an inside the beltway talking point that no, no voter out there is saying, oh gosh, this person is associated with project 2025. i just don't see it is that what you think? >> there are plenty of voters who are very concerned about what project 2025 meant. clearly not enough of them. but then that goes to the mandate. the mandate was not to dismantle government. the mandate was to focus on economic issues and what donald trump has announced is a cabinet of chaos, not a cabinet of governance. a cabinet of
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grotesque overreach is what he's focused on. everything that he's talked about from dismantling the deep state, from going after people who worked with jack smith is focused on hurting american voters. let's think about that. his priority is not to lower costs. his priority is not to bring down inflation. his priorities to hurt american voters, whether that's implementing his own policies, which economists have said will raise prices and will explode inflation or putting in people who have no experience in what they are supposed to be leading people who have grotesque and disgusting allegations against them, which is just offensive to the country. and what russell just said russell vought, i guess, is his name. what he's talking about is turning the government, not into a government of the people, for the people. and by the government into a government for donald trump by donald trump and with donald trump, you know, lance, that's dangerous. >> well, they they vehemently disagree with the characterization. they think.
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and they have said in different scenarios that they believe this is in line with a less intrusive government they say that it harkens back to the idea of what was that phrase, the scariest words, the government is here to help. that's their thought process on it. but what maria's point, they're not articulating it in that way. and that's very concerning. if that, in fact, is how they ultimately feel. >> i think if you go i always say this, donald trump came down that escalator 8 or 9 years ago, and there has and that is that washington is not working for you and that someone needs to go in and take a sledgehammer to it. that was his campaign pledge in 2016. it's what he ran on in 2020. it's what he ran on again in 2024. so i do disagree with you. i think voters are very clear eyed about what donald trump and what he stands for and what he wants to do in washington, and i think they're going to give him a lot of deference in terms of his cabinet picks. that's what voters did. they just decided this election a few weeks ago. so he's going to get some time to make his picks we have a process that we're going to go through with the senate with
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advise and consent. and these nominees are going to play out. but i think he's going to get a lot of what he wants here. >> i go back to this thing when anyone says this is a mandate. i remember what the ballot looked like and people weren't bubbling in like what they thought the mandate was. people are making a lot of assumptions about, oh, if i mean you, then i must mean this, which the winner gets to tell their own story. but let me ask you, on this point maria. i mean, you're hearing about one of the cabinet picks, tulsi gabbard getting briefly placed on this tsa watch list, and she was flagged for her foreign travel and her contacts. just tonight, john bolton was speaking about and calling her a national security threat. are you worried if she's confirmed? >> i'm terrified if she is confirmed. and i think most americans should be, and certainly our elected officials should be. and look, this is not democrats saying it like you just said. john bolton is saying it nikki haley just completely eviscerated tulsi gabbard because of her connections to assad, to putin. she came back from visiting with our adversaries and
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that's fine, right? we should be talking to our adversaries. but she was not doing it in a diplomatic position. and she came back parroting putin's talking points and blaming the united states for the war in ukraine. i mean, that is dangerous. that is untrue. it's ridiculous and certainly to put her in charge of the highest position for our intelligence and put all those things aside she has zero experience in understanding how our intelligence networks work, what the information means how it is actionable, how it's not actionable. so to me, that should be terrifying to everyone who's looking at this from a national security standpoint, why is there a trend of people who don't have a great deal of government experience? >> i mean, obviously she's a member of congress, right? so she has that. she served on. i mean, i'm not saying not undermining that at all, but i'm saying the idea of overseeing departments of the magnitudes that they have. does that concern you or is that in line with the notion of, look
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the government wasn't working for you, as you just said the sledge hammer? you know coming in. is that what they want? >> i think if you're the average voter in middle illinois or ohio, you name it they were looking at this saying washington is a disaster. we need a breath of fresh air, and we need new people. and that goes back, yes, to the donald trump approach. and so, again, i think donald trump gets a lot of deference on his picks. and so yeah, they don't have tons of experience like some people may have, but they have experience in their own rights. many of these people are very well educated and very well qualified people just because they haven't been in government is not a disqualifying for a lot of voters out there. they say yeah, send that guy in there because the government officials aren't working for us right now that's intentional because i think that donald trump doesn't care that they have experience, because what he cares about is fealty to him because they these picks are not going in there to say, i am working for the american people. >> they are going in there to say, i work for donald trump and that is a huge concern. >> that will be i think, the continuous thread through all these confirmation hearings about the stated position, the
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objectives and what their goals will be. we'll see. lance maria thank you both so much. >> thanks, laura. >> they admitted to helping jesse smollett stage an alleged hate crime hoax. of course, jussie smollett maintains his innocence, but the osundairo brothers are here with their reaction to his conviction now being overturned and ahead. the bible infused curriculum for public elementary schools approved in texas today. we'll tell you what's in the lessons. and if they're even constitutional america's favorite holiday spend thanksgiving morning with cnn with live coverage of parades around the country and special guest appearances by chef bobby flay jennifer hudson, the property brothers, drew scott, the temptations, t.i., the inside the nba crew, andy grammer, and more. >> john berman and erica hill
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conviction of actor jussie smollett for allegedly staging a hate crime. >> it continues to reverberate especially among those connected to the case. two of those people are the osundairo brothers. police arrested them and held them for two days, believing them to be suspects. but the brothers say they actually helped smollett stage the alleged attack. surveillance video captured them purchasing supplies beforehand. they say smollett wrote them a check for $3,500. after it all happened. and once police realized they took part the duo then cooperated with the investigation. both ended up testifying against him at the 2021 trial and that of course, led to smollett's conviction on disorderly conduct charges. now they themselves were never charged with a crime, but both have apologized for their role and what they say was a made up hoax. and bola and ola osundairo join me now. thank you for both for being here. i'll begin with you, ola. you and your brother say that you actually agree with the
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court's decision from yesterday that says, look, this plea agreement between the da and smollett should have been the end of the story. he had his benefit of the bargain. he made up his own end. that should be the end of it. you agree? why we agree with that decision? >> because there's laws in this country, and the law is you cannot be tried twice on a crime. you have committed the real injustice and disservice was done by kim foxx's office who allowed smollett to get away scot free without admitting guilt of what he has done, gave him a sweetheart deal. >> yeah, yeah i hear i've heard you say that. and i wonder some people would look at this scenario and say, well, neither of you had been charged with a crime and that you had been involved. you say, with concocting this scheme. why is what happened to you not a sweetheart deal? >> so what happened with us was we didn't concocted. jussie,
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concocted the whole thing we just participated by fake beating him up. so the crime was testifying, not testifying but calling the police and lying to them we never called the police, and we never knew he was going to call the police so we never committed a crime. so we did not get a sweetheart deal. the police could not charge us if they wanted to. >> so when you look at that initial agreement that was reached between i interviewed kim foxx yesterday and she was talking about this particular investigation and the deal that was reached. why do you think that what should have happened that the same, you know, $10,000 forfeiture of his bond community service, if he had had to admit guilt, would that have been enough? >> yes i would say that would have been enough. if he if they made him admit guilt. but he was able to go on scot free and actually go around and say that he was innocent and tell people that he would not be his
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mother's son if he committed this crime. yeah. >> look, it seems like there's a two tier system in america there's two types of citizens one with money, one without money, and those with money have more of a privilege than ones without because if it was somebody else that that was not in that position, they would probably have to admit guilt and maybe do some other type of service that the state wanted. >> i certainly i've been a prosecutor. i know that there are inequity issues in our justice system believe me, you don't have to convince me of that. but one thing that people often look at and this is something very close to my heart in terms of exoneration cases your participation in this could have very well led them to arrest individuals who did not commit a crime. if you say it was a hoax and they could be, you know being in trial, they could have been arrested, they could have been convicted on what was said as well. do you ever carry any guilt for your participation in what you say was concocted by
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someone else? but you carried it out? do you ever think about what could have happened to somebody who was wrongly accused yes we we actually do think about that however, if that would have gotten to that point, we would have come out and said that, hey, this is not that that this was actually concocted this is a hoax. >> and and that's you saw that when the police first and got us from the airport, we told them what happened. we did not we never lied to them. and we testified we were always truthful and the book that we're releasing, bigger than jussie or it's newly released, it does talk about that. it goes deeper into that. on how we felt and what we're doing to move forward. >> i will be curious to see and read that part i think a lot of people were wondering about that very notion. and, you know, i spoke with the cook county state's attorney, kim foxx yesterday, and i want to play for you guys what she told me in response to these claims. >> listen so what was offered
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to him was similar to what we would offer someone else, but he was allowed to do his community service in advance. >> he forfeited his bond. and that is in line with someone charged with this level of offense. that's what he got. he was actually treated like everyone else. the secondary prosecution where the criminal justice system was upended to go after him again that was special treatment. and that is beyond what our constitution allows so on that point, bola, i think you've reached out in the past about this. >> she says that smollett did not receive any special treatment especially for the crime that he was accused of. what's your response to that, knowing that she is making that statement pure poppycock. >> that is a lie because you do not just drop all charges and then seal it, leave it in the open, let everyone be able to go and see what it is, what it is, exactly what it is you know, i think that that's
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false, that he did get special treatment and that other people would not be afforded that privilege. >> ola, what's your thought and not not only because he's a celebrity. >> i also believe there's people high up there in the food chain that put their hands in this case and had something to do with this. >> yes so you don't get the former first ladies. i'm sorry you don't get the first former. the former first ladies aid to come out and tell the fbi to make sure they investigate this i know i wouldn't get that. i believe her name was tina chen that reached out to the fbi to actually go and look into what happened with jessie. >> well, i don't have any reporting to corroborate that. i assume you're talking about the former first lady, michelle obama somehow putting her thumb on the scale. i don't have any support. they say her said, well who are melania trump? who is the former first lady you're talking about? >> no, i said her
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>> okay thank you. i didn't i wasn't clear, i don't have any reporting on that. but i understand that your position is that i want to ask you this before we go. both of you. i'd love you to weigh in. he has always maintained his innocence. he has always said that this is not what happened. the court has now said, look, the trial where you both testified, that should have never been a factor, because he should have had that first honored plea agreement if you could say anything to him right now, what would it be just tell the truth. >> this is america that people believe in. second chances in this country. and i believe if he just came out and told the truth from the beginning, this would have been behind us and people would have forgave him, and we could have all gone on with our lives bola and ola osundairo, thank you both for joining me this evening. >> thank you laura, we appreciate it. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> the texas school board approving bible infused lessons for public elementary schools.
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who love money, but that's not me this is cnn, the world's news network well, lessons from the good book could be among the lessons millions of kids in texas learn next school year today, the state school board voting to greenlight what they call bluebonnet learning curriculum it infuses the bible into classes for kids in kindergarten through the fifth grade. >> this program has been months in the making it's optional. supporters say that it will
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help teach subjects like reading and language arts while introducing kids to religious history but critics argue it highlights christianity more than any other religion and some of the lessons possibly undermine the separation of church and state. the 15 member board voted 8 to 7 to approve it, with three republicans joining democrats in voting against it. the tie breaking vote was cast by new member leslie racine, texas governor greg abbott appointed her to temporarily fill a vacancy after the election another member who was elected to that seat will take her place at the end of the year. joining me now a member of the state board of education who voted against it, democrat james talarico, thank you so much for joining us. you you're studying to be a christian pastor why do you believe this curriculum though, is preaching not teaching well, before i was a public school teacher. >> and as you mentioned, i'm a current seminary student
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studying to become a presbyterian minister. and so i know personally that there is a difference between preaching and teaching under federal law schools can teach the bible as an academic text, but not in a devotional way. in other words public schools are not sunday schools. or as greg abbott is fond of saying, schools are for education, not indoctrination. and you know, laura, i'm not the only one who thinks that this curriculum is unconstitutional the texas republicans, who crafted this curriculum also think it's unconstitutional because in the bill that created this curriculum, they explicitly grant immunity for texas educators who violate the establishment clause of the united states constitution, otherwise known as the separation of church and state. so this curriculum is unconstitutional. it's un-american. and i also believe
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it's deeply unchristian you know, one of the lessons lesson plans, i should say, for kindergartners, emphasizes teaching the book of genesis from the bible and helping kids understand the phrase. >> and god said let there be light, and there was light. tell me about a lesson specifically like this. is that appropriate for a elementary school student in light of what you've described as that separation of church and state nationalists are so focused on pushing christianity in school that they've forgotten the christianity we learned in church jesus taught us to love our neighbors as ourselves in the parable of the good samaritan jesus specifically defines neighbor as someone different from us religiously racially, culturally and this new texas curriculum elevates
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christianity over the other major world religions. >> i consider the hindu student the jewish student, the muslim student, the buddhist student, the atheist student who sits in a classroom in a texas public school to be my neighbor and as a christian, i am called to love them as myself and forcing my religion down their throats is not love. i think if jesus read this new curriculum, he would weep for those students. and then i think he would overturn our desks in the texas legislature but there are those who will say, this is optional. >> this is not mandated. is that disingenuous? does that change the calculus as you describe i think it's >> you've got to know the context. here in texas, we rank 43rd in the nation in per student education funding texas teachers are making less than they did ten years ago. when you adjust for
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created a school funding emergency in this state and there are heavy financial incentives tied to this new optional curriculum so it's not optional when you're starving schools of desperately needed funding and then dangling financial incentives to use an unconstitutional, unconstitutional curriculum. >> do you anticipate has already been talked about there being legal challenges? >> and by the way, given that the person who was the tie breaking vote has a short tenure until the person actually is supposed to be in that seat ultimately will be there, will this hold through the duration of the next academic school year you know, we'll see. >> but i think we should also mention that there was bipartisan opposition to this new curriculum on the state board of education. it wasn't just democrats who voted against it. it was also conservative republicans who are christians themselves. i think conservatives should be really concerned about the state usurping the role of the
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church and state is not only for the benefit of our democracy. it's also for the benefit of the church and i, for one, don't feel comfortable with government employees teaching our faith. we have places where we can do that, and they're called churches. >> so representative james talarico, we've all been fascinated by what's happened, and we'll continue to follow this story thank you thank you up next, matt gaetz's new job charging more than 500 bucks for a personal video on cameo >> thanksgiving in america live thursday at eight on cnn. do your dry eyes still feel gritty rough or tired with my bow eyes can feel my only prescription dry eye drop that forms a protective layer for the number one cause of dry
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attorney general. >> and turns out he's not going to return to congress. so what's matt gaetz up to now? he's on cameo. and the former congressman is charging more than 500 bucks a pop for all sorts of videos from a simple, happy birthday greeting all the way to a personalized pep talk. gaetz writing this about himself on the site i served in congress, trump nominated me to be u.s. attorney general. that didn't work out. once i fired the house personally, of course, fired the former house speaker, but i guess that's not really the point is it? with me now, comedian pete dominick and former bachelorette lawyer, journalist and a whole lot more rachel lindsay here as well. good to see both of you on this friday night. pete, i am dying to know. okay. are you going to pay 500 bucks for a custom matt gaetz video? and what would you have him give you? a pep talk about oh, gosh i, i don't think i could ever do it.
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>> he is a terrible person and i, i actually thought about this. i was like, the people want to humiliate him, to pay him to say something humiliating. >> i mean, i'll be entertained by that. but i also think that anybody that sends this guy any money should have their credit card hacked and stolen. it's a terrible thing to do to give this guy any money. what are you going to ask him to do? i mean, he he had the worst week ever. he got so disgraced and embarrassed he was up for the top job of attorney general in the department of justice, and now he's on cameo. laura. rachel, come on. worst week ever. >> i mean, rachel i feel like though the number one person who might be trying to do what pete describes might be a man named former speaker kevin mccarthy, who might have a whole list of things he'd like him to say. maybe a $500 apology or otherwise. i don't know, rachel, what do you make of this? what's the trajectory for this i don't know where you go from here. >> i didn't even think about
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kevin mccarthy. that's actually really, really good. and you can decline to do someone's video on cameo. that's the thing. so i would imagine that he would do that. or he might be a little bit desperate. i mean, who would have known you start the week off as possibly being the attorney general, and now you're filming 32nd birthday videos like you're a digital hallmark card? i don't know what the trajectory is from here. i would say it's a fall from grace but how high was he really? i would think that he would be humbled after this, but he's also charging $500 a pop, so maybe not. i mean, i guess from here you just start, you just press play, right? i mean there's a whole range of prices to i mean, it might be different levels. >> i'm surprised about all the people who are on cameo, but maybe i don't know. trump said he has a wonderful future ahead of him. maybe it's just part of it we're not seeing the rest of it. but next topic everyone. ellen degeneres and her wife spotted out in london in england after sources telling them that they rap that they moved there full time after the election. they look pretty
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happy. >> pete i mean good for them, i guess. >> they're so unbelievably rich. they're selling their house for like $63 million. and i mean i think they're just yeah yeah, it's on sale for 63 million. laura, if you're in the market and i just thank you so much, you got to take a couple a lot of zeros off of that price for me to even be able to go to the open house. >> but go ahead i mean what kind of a privilege what kind of a fortunate situation do you have to be in that you can not like the situation in the country and just move like a lot of people have been talking about this. >> where are you going and why i say stay and fight, but i would like to know laura, where you would go if you had to, if you had to live in another country, which country would laura coates pick? >> oh my god, the one that we're carbs were free and calories didn't count and everyone just gave me gelato. is that is that italy? that's that's right that's the one you go to. right, rachel, how about you caroline. >> that's that's caroline
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that's well know where i would go. all right, let's talk liquid everyone not liquid. >> so if you're overweight boomers reading it it's liquid gladiator two. and wicked are both out today. and according to deadline, wicked is expected to take in $120 million, with gladiator taking so what do you guys think? is this the new barbenheimer? and for the record i saw them on the same day barbenheimer i was one of those people, and i started out with oppenheimer and ended with barbie because that reversal did not make sense otherwise. pete, how about you? >> i mean of course you did, because you're a big wealthy superstar now you can afford such. okay, okay these people. no. >> here we go. >> who can afford one movie? ac second of all, who can afford two movies? it's like $700 night out. i mean i think i think liquid is basically that i >> i am that person. >> i will sneak in some snacks.
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>> don't even look. you brought your own. >> i got a big bag >> first of all, first of all, i will bring my own because i'm not going to spend $25 for whatever. wait. now i just told on myself, if you see me at the theaters, don't check my bag. i swear it's just. it's just got tissues in there. >> oops i think the real phenomenon is people just staying home and watching netflix really come on. >> and why did no one pick wacky theater that was right there for the taking? >> because if you thought it sounded a little bit suspect i'm i'm assuming the other sounded even worse. >> okay, rachel, how about you are you going to actually go watch it or both of them? >> i'm going to go see both. i am very excited. i have been inundated with social media, you know videos of both ariana grande cynthia erivo and i'm just going to pause for denzel. i mean, the moment that we got the trailer of denzel in gladiator two, it went viral. that's enough to get me out of my seat to pay whatever price
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popcorn to buy some more and just sit there and watch it. sorry to objectify him. i'm also excited. i think. i think this is fun too, because both of these franchises have solid fan bases. i mean, remember when it was going viral about men asking men the question about the roman empire? well, we're going to get to watch it here in gladiator two. so i'm excited about that. i'm excited about wicked. i'm a big fan of broadway musicals, so pete, you come with me, you can come with me. who watches these movies? >> they're such different movies, by the way. a lot of people tell me i remind them of of denzel a lot of people say i remind them. >> all i heard was denzel and i think i blacked out for the rest of your statement just now. pete. dominick, rachel, lindsay thank you both so much. >> we have to move on to the next topic. >> i got to move on. you know what we got to be done with that because i don't even know where he's going. thank you everyone. thank you all for watching as well anderson cooper 360 is next how to fix your hair
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