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>> cnn: thanksgiving in america live thursday at eight on cnn >> and welcome to the amanpour hour. here's where we're headed this week. >> what in god's name are they talking about in the hague? >> a historic move the international criminal court issued arrest warrants for a hamas chief and israeli leaders we discussed the global impact then, as inflation and working class rage boots out incumbent governments across the globe, how can western democracies and u.s. democrats reconnect with disillusioned voters? >> you know workers, if you if you abandon them we see what happens. >> nebraska steamfitter and political outsider dan osborne has answers. >> then the brits had a problem. they didn't know who was ira. >> the one thing they could never get us to do was to say nothing. >> the hit tv show capturing the perpetrators and the

victims of northern ireland's troubles. journalist and executive producer patrick radden keefe talks us through getting the story right. >> plus, no idea what they were doing to people when they passed these laws. >> as u.s. abortion bans fuel a maternal mortality crisis, the a word. a gripping new documentary uncovers the terrifying consequences of these wipe the blood from your face and your hands swept away. grammy nominated folk rock legends the avett brothers and star john gallagher jr.. tell me about their new broadway musical everyone. i'm bianna golodryga in new york, sitting in for christiane amanpour. as donald trump transitions into the white house filling his cabinet with staunch israel allies, the international criminal court has taken a historic step, issuing arrest warrants for israeli

netanyahu former defense minister yoav gallant and hamas leader mohammed deif, who israel says it's killed. it's the first time the icc has targeted the leader of a democratic country. the charges war humanity in gaza, 44,000 palestinians have been killed there, according to authorities since the hamas. october seventh terror attacks in israel netanyahu's office has responded, saying he, quote, utterly rejects the absurd and false actions and accusations, calling the icc politically biased and discriminatory. christiane broke news of the icc's plans back in may. here's what the body's chief prosecutor, karim khan, told her then explain to me exactly what you're asking for and who you are charging today. >> christiane, we've applied for warrants to the pretrial chamber of the international criminal court in relation to three individuals that are hamas members sinwar, who's in charge on the ground? that's

yahya sinwar absolutely. deif who's in charge of the al-qassam brigade and haniyeh who's one of their political bureau based in doha. the charges are extermination murder, taking of hostages, rape and sexual assault in detention. we'll apply for warrants for prime minister netanyahu and also minister of defense galant for the crimes of causing extermination causing starvation as a method of war, including the denial of humanitarian relief supplies deliberately targeting civilians in in conflict while the u.s. >> rejects the icc's jurisdiction, other member nations are vowing to enforce the warrants, raising critical questions about how israel will be held accountable moving forward and how the u.s. might intervene to help. so how much power does the icc have, and what are the legal

ramifications? i spoke with david scheffer, who served as the first u.s. ambassador at large for war crimes issues. here's our conversation. you have said in response to these arrest warrants that the travel itineraries of both prime minister netanyahu and former defense minister galant will be greatly circumscribed. do you really envision a scenario where they would be arrested among allied members in countries? >> you know, i have to say, i can envision it. i think we need to take seriously here in the united states. we need to take seriously that those european latin american some of the pacific nations which are party to the rome statute of the international criminal court actually take their responsibilities very seriously. their publics expect them to do so. so i don't think one should sit here and say, oh, well if he landed in italy, how could italy possibly arrest

him? i can envision that happening. um and and so i think that needs to be taken very seriously by, by the israeli officials so when prosecutor khan, as he said to christiane back in may says no one is above the law as it relates to the request for these warrants that he was seeking back at that time. >> your response is what? >> um, israel, of course disagrees with that because they don't think they have. the icc has any jurisdiction over a nonparty state. the problem here is that the gaza war is on the territory of a state party. the state of palestine um, as recognized as such by the court and by, you know more than 140 countries. the state of palestine. um and so therefore he can, i think, with considerable confidence, consider the actions of the israeli defense forces in gaza and thus reach a decision that certain arrest warrants are merited with respect to that

conduct. he has that authority and discretion as he interprets it, and now the question is what, if anything, will the united states do? >> obviously, we had president biden and we read the statement from his administration condemning these arrest warrants and president biden had done so earlier. but we're now seeing republicans and they will have control of the senate. and there's an incoming republican administration who are saying, let's take this a step further and actually threaten sanctions against the icc. is that something you would support i would express extreme caution about that and the reason is this first, back in the early 2000 under the george w. >> bush administration, the law, the american servicemembers protection act was adopted, which had all sorts of of sanctions against countries that even dared to join the icc. we found that in

our relationships with those countries, that was so damaging to our own national security interests that those sanctions were lifted under the law, there is no longer any economic or military sanctions under that particular law because it was determined it's simply a states and all of its many security equities and economic equities that it has around the world in this case, uh, if there are sanctions, let's say, you know just as was, uh earlier, you know, years ago against the prosecutor, bensouda at the time of the icc um, the problem with doing targeted sanctions like that against individuals for example, is that so many governments which the united states is allied to, is a friend to they will oppose those sanctions, and it complicates our interests with

those countries. it's a sort of superfluous unnecessary irritant in the relations between the united states and so many countries around the world, which are party to the rome statute of the united of the international criminal court. so you what is you have to determine, well, what do we gain ultimately coming up later on the show say nothing. >> patrick radden keefe talks about turning his acclaimed book into a hit tv show about the lives of perpetrators and victims during northern ireland's troubles were being held hostage. >> i was being led across the embassy compound. people were running up to me shouting death to america! >> the iran hostage crisis, how it really happened. tomorrow at nine on cnn okay, everyone, our mission is to provide complete, balanced

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shouldn't be this hard. i'm running for u.s. senate because people aren't getting a fair shake. i'm running for every nebraskan, so we have enough. at the end of every week to buy groceries, to have a house set money aside for christmas and college and all we have left to worry about is bake sales and little league. kind of sounds a little bit like the american dream. my name is dan osborne, and i approve this message. and i respectfully ask for your vote and your trust. >> his message of working families being steamrolled by elites resonated with fellow nebraskans. and while he ultimately lost by just 60,000 votes, it helped him run a surprisingly close senate race in a deep red state. giving a voice to those living paycheck to paycheck. so, given his success campaigning on empowering working class americans to get a seat at the table, what lessons can his class conscious campaign offer democrats and political parties elsewhere looking to reckon with their losses and represent the working class? he joined me from omaha, nebraska, to share

his story and his insights. reporter dan osborne, welcome to the program. so as we noted, you lost your senate bid, but by a very close margin. instead of burying your head and just going back to work, which, by the way we should note, you are going back to work because as you said, you have to pay the bills. you're also starting a pac, a political pac, the working class heroes fund. tell us about this. and its larger aims. >> yeah. you know, we we did something pretty historic here in nebraska. i was able to bring republicans, democrats and independents together in the same room without without any fighting or screaming or yelling. that gives me hope that we're not as divided as people think, that we are. and once we start focusing on the actual issues and talk about resolving the issues, to not just arguing about what the issues are, a lot of heads start nodding in those rooms and then you know, we can all just start being friends and

neighbors again. and, you know that was that was part of why i was successful. >> you clearly struck a chord not only with those in your home state, but outside of the state as well $35 million in out of state donations and funding came your way. what is it that you think you struck in terms of raising attention, not only for yourself, but the policies that you were championing? >> yeah. you know, i did. i did speak a lot about the economy because that's first on everybody's mind. you know, you work hard in this country like like me. i work with my hands. you should know that your paycheck matters, right? because we all want to know that we just want to live in some semblance of peace, be able to afford a home which is dwindling away quickly. being able to afford your cars and saving up money for college. hopefully some money for a good christmas so we can all just basically live the american dream and you know, that's

that's what i was mainly talking about. and that's what we need to focus on those are working people's focuses and that's why i started the working class heroes fund to help people. if you're a bus driver or a nurse or a teacher or a plumber or carpenter, you can now know you don't have to be a self-funding crypto and this is going to be set up to help those people get started, whether that's for local dogcatcher or you know, if you need to get on the transportation committee, whatever it is you're interested, you know, because we need more workers at this to have a seat at the table. >> it's interesting in terms of just the congress is much healthier than than every western country. the unemployment rate nationwide is low. the unemployment rate in nebraska is even lower than it is nationally at 2.7%. and i think that's something perhaps, that the democrats that kamala harris and joe biden were really puzzled about not resonating more with

americans. yes inflation really was a game changer. but you started to see even inflation cooling. why was there such a disconnect between the messaging that you heard from the republicans? donald trump, this is the worst economy ever, given the just the data points didn't suggest that at all, compared to how people were really feeling, which clearly was not. >> well, i think you hit the nail on the head. it's it's a it's about the feeling. right? i think maybe it was a yeah inflation starting to, to lower. but it's a day late and a dollar short right. taxes have gone up uh, you know, i just tried to change my auto insurance because it's getting unaffordable and nobody's because it's getting unaffordable. and nobody will, you know, nobody will take me because one of my daughter's cars is a hyundai. uh and so apparently those get stolen a lot, and nobody will the roof is older than ten years old.

like, these are the struggles that that we're all dealing with while we're trying to put food on the example, you know, 250 bucks used to fill my cart up at the grocery store. now it's barely skimming the bottom. people are hurting and insurance costs health care costs is extremely expensive in this country. it's extremely expensive in this country. and i think that's the change people are looking for, is we just got to do better to to live. look, i don't think most people are looking for handouts. i'm certainly not playing fields when it when it comes to, you know monopolies to, you know, without without there's nothing to drive down costs if you, if you don't have competition, uh, you know we see that playing out over and over and over again and, and, you know we got to talk about price gouging when we talk about inflation. kroger admitted to inflating their prices. i, i saw kellogg's did it when i worked there and you know, now we got, you know, a strike at kellogg's at the

plant when you were there in 2021. >> kellogg's, which which leads me, i guess, to some of the lessons learned, the postmortem, because donald trump and the republicans walk in with a mandate. but given what we're hearing from them and some of the appointments being made now, it's not yet clear that they have heard what the voters seem to have been wanting to appeal to and for in the future. and we definitely didn't hear that. it turns out, from the kamala harris and the democrat side and that is not the gender divide that that many thought we'd see in this election cycle. but really, the class divide that, that people. you honed in on that. talk about some of the lessons learned for for both parties going forward. >> yeah, that's that's absolutely right. right. i mean, the middle class makes up the bulk of the population and the bulk of the voters. so when you're talking about middle, you know workers issues, you have to talk about social security. that goes in there

but you know, what happens um, and now but workers are never going to stop. um trying to get a fair shake and trying to get a seat at the table. look, we see uh, was it milk-bone just went on strike in buffalo. they're owned by smuckers and smuckers. you know, uh, has what, $8 billion in sales last year and all those folks wanted some health coverage because life is expensive. so the workers are always going to stand up for themselves and always try to pick the right people. they stand up for themselves and always try to pick the right people they think is going to help them out. >> well, after a break to the troubles of northern ireland, have i told you girls how to make explosives? >> it was quite a happy childhood. >> christiane speaks to author patrick radden keefe about turning his acclaimed book, say nothing, into a new drama series on hulu, and disney america's favorite holiday

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1998. the acclaimed book say nothing by patrick radden keefe, looks at the conflict from the point of view of some of its worst perpetrators and its most afflicted victims, most notably the family of jean mcconville, a widow and mother of ten who was murdered by the ira. now it's been turned into a drama series on hulu and disney plus. >> the brits had a problem they didn't know who was ira. it was talk would die for a united ireland. >> christiane spoke with patrick radden keefe about translating this history from book to screen. >> patrick radden keefe, welcome back to the program. >> it's great to be with you. >> i say welcome back because we had a conversation about the book say nothing when it came out a few years ago. now, the series of that book is dropping. >> how can i help you today sister? i am

and the book is a journalistic enterprise as well as an amazing, right? >> do you think that a series which is inevitably dramatized and got all the sort of, you know, effects and brilliant actors and all of that? were you concerned that it becomes less of a journalistic enterprise and more of a show? >> well, i mean, i think some of that is is just in the nature of what it is. right? that i think at this point, viewers are sophisticated enough to know that when you're watching a television drama, even one that is based on a true story and says at the beginning, based on a true story, that there's a certain amount of dramatic license that has to be employed by the people making it, that you're compressing certain stories. there are certain places where you're kind of conjecturing about what might have been said in the room, what was important for me as the author of this

nonfiction book with 100 pages of endnotes, that was very scrupulously reported, was not to be in there with some fantasy that what we were making was a documentary, but to make sure that in the places where license was taken that it felt as though it was a reasonable license to take that, you know, if people were coloring, they were sort of embroidering. they were doing so between the lines of the the factual narrative that is laid out in the book. >> so i want to play a clip that we have and this is dolors price. she is one of the main, if not the protagonist of the book and the series. she had a sister called marian. they were ira. and there's also brendan hughes. these are the three main characters. if i could say. here's a clip of dolors price talking about kind of why she does what she does for the ira but i would die for a united ireland.

>> i would die if i thought it meant the brits would hesitate going to the off to school in the morning. i would, i would die. this is my whole family has suffered and i just want that fear to live in their hearts, to you know so that's blunt but this is what it was back in. >> i guess, the 60s and 70s. tell us who is dolors price and why did you choose to focus on her so much? >> so this whole project started for me. it's crazy to think, but more than a decade ago, that woman dolors price, died in 2013. and i read her obituary in the new york times, and she was the first woman to join the irish republican army as a sort of a frontline soldier. so generations of women had been involved in the ira in the past but they were always doing things like hiding hiding weapons or helping injured men. they were sort of behind the lines. and she

essentially said, listen, i want to be out there carrying a gun and planning operations and that was very intriguing to me. reading that in the obituary, because on some level, for me, the troubles had seemed like a very male story. so to learn that there was this woman who joined with her sister marian, and that the two of them actually went on hunger strike they bombed london in 1973. they were thrown into brixton prison and they went on hunger strike which at the time was sort of front page news. in 1973, that story to me seemed so interesting. and then the other aspect of it that i picked up in that obituary middle age, dolors price looked back at the things she had done as a young woman in her early 20s and was really kind of reconsidering, you know, what was it all for? was it worth it? the things that i did. so what i was trying to do in the book and what i think we've done successfully in the series, is really interrogate the nature of radical politics and violence used in this kind of a cause, looking both at the allure of it, but also at the

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documentary, where she was reporting from outside a clinic in virginia. >> where else in medical field do you not know that you're safe coming to the doctors? no. excuse me. good morning bristol women's health, this is terry. may i help you? >> demand is so great that they are now opening on evenings and weekends, which has only made them more of a target for the anti-abortion movement. you give birth to that child and that child dies in your arms, and that child is dying in the arms of a loving mother, not ripped to pieces and thrown away like common garbage. >> we are begging you not to murder your child. >> have you threatened anyone with murder charges over this? >> if anybody is involved with the murder of this child, if it's the mother, the father, the grandfather, whoever we want them charged with murder. >> talk about your views and what you encountered there. >> well actually, as soon as i drove up myself to this clinic the protesters assumed that i was coming to get an abortion. so someone actually threw themselves on my car, and i was quite worried i was going to

injure someone. and the first thing they did was try and talk to me about something called an abortion reversal pill which is largely unproven and has been condemned by many medical associations in the u.s. but as you said, they also dress very similarly to the clinic volunteers who basically manned the parking lot, who help women pregnant people get from their cars to the front door of the clinic. in fact, it's got to the point where the clinic volunteers actually have special copyrighted vests with designs specific to themselves so that no one can directly copy what they're wearing just so that they can at least be identified by the people coming in that it is intimidating. people are shouting people. as i said threw themselves on my car. i spoke to one ob gyn who was an abortion provider inside the clinic and he was carrying a firearm, and he was carrying a firearm with him as he was performing abortions. it was tucked into his scrubs so that was pretty eye opening for me. i mean, i knew that there was this was a contentious issue but i didn't realize that the abortion providers themselves were seriously worried about

their own lives. >> the consequences of some of these really draconian laws, a full abortion ban after six weeks. as we know, most women don't even know they're pregnant at six weeks. but the impact that it has on women who are carrying unviable fetuses is situations where not only is their fetus at risk, but but their lives themselves are too. and you've encountered you spoke with some of these women. nicole blackwell is one of them. let's play some sound from what she told you, i was going to give birth to a child that wasn't going to live. >> i did ask the nurse to put a sheet in between me and her. >> so when i did give labor, i wouldn't see the dead baby coming out >> there was no way of trying to prepare myself, and i was in

labor >> that's how complicated the situation was and you still could have died in any of those hours. any of those hours knowing that you're going to give birth to a child that's not going to live with that? >> what was that like for you to be, to be sitting there with these women as they were telling you, these heartbreaking stories? i mean, i honestly was speechless. >> nicole had been through hell. i mean, she her 14 year old son, was shot dead because he was just a random bypass, a bystander to a drive by shooting. she got pregnant and she called it her miracle child. then she was told that the pregnancy was non-viable. the baby wouldn't make it outside of the womb, and also that the pregnancy was life threatening and she wasn't allowed to have an abortion. and she didn't have the money to travel out of state. and she was too ill. and she the only piece of control, the only agency she had was being able

to put a sheet between her and the bits of the baby that she was forced to give birth to. she is so frightened now of getting pregnant again because she nearly died, that she's actually gone undergone a sterilization, and that is actually we're seeing a rise in in people undergoing vasectomies and tubal ligations across the states. there was a university of pittsburgh and a report that came out recently that said that because people are scared no one should be too frightened to be pregnant. and no one should feel that they cannot be treated. >> you actually spoke with a lawmaker in tennessee, where you spent a great deal of time, who voted for this law? a doctor himself. we should note only to regret it after the fact. what was that conversation like he said he regrets it so much that he's actually been working on legislation to include medical exceptions to allow people to have abortions in life threatening situations, which is happening, you know, almost every single day. >> and he said that even though there are people who agree with him, they're still not going to

vote for his new legislation because the anti-abortion movement is so strong and people are, you know, state senators are really worried about losing the ability to be voted in. again so there's an immense amount of pressure. and in the middle there are pregnant people, there are women who are suffering and, you know this this is the daily reality now in the us coming up, we have to wipe the blood from your face and your hands i speak to folk rock legends the avett brothers as we discuss how they're bringing their songs and a sweeping story to broadway publicly what people are saying to themselves, i have enough money. >> i could just shut up. >> you know i just i can't carp. >> now streaming on max sail through the heart of historic cities and unforgettable scenery with viking. >> unpack once and get closer

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you suddenly feel, okay, we're going to get out of it together. that's what muesli did for me i'm pete airport this is cnn >> the grammy nominated folk rock superstars the avett brothers have been thrilling audiences with their americana for decades. well, now they're reaching a whole new audience as a new musical based on their work reaches broadway. some 20 years in the making. the show is called swept away is based on the band's conceptual second album, mignonette. both are inspired by the story of an 1884 shipwreck that saw desperate crew members resort to

brothers, seth and john gallagher jr., to discuss this epic show. well, scott seth and john, welcome to the program. thanks so much for for joining us. and congratulations . swept away opening on broadway. what an accomplishment. and scott this is something that has been in the works for now a decade. and i read that collectively as a band. you decided to take a step removed as this was unfolding and as the production was coming together. tell us about that in the process, over our our life and our career, we've learned how to hold loosely our creations and our work to work in a partnership and when this was presented to us past, it just being sounded like a great idea. >> um when it became something that we were engaged in, how we would engage in it was was a moment for us to use that, that exercise, that power which is

the non-power to step out and see how how it would land with the writing and the direction and the and the actors as it did. and then if we felt it necessary for our, our love and care and the craft to to interject, we would but, um, that doesn't happen that often when you're working with this many incredible, brilliant minds. >> and seth the story itself in the book was brought to you by your father. >> yes. >> talk about the process of getting this book from your father on the road performing and somehow getting the idea that we can turn this into an album. >> yes. well our our dad is. he's big on, uh stories of heroism, stories of of grit survival and so he he has always passed them along to us. and he passed custom of the sea

onto to scott and you know, in that time, the early time of the band, 2002, 2003, uh we were in this little van and it was us versus the world, and we talked about everything and there were long hours of conversation, long hours of of of solving problems and, and working together and that book it resonated with all three of us. and uh, beyond just being a very captivating, incredible story, we responded heavily to the the fundamental point of the story which is about truth telling, about telling the truth. >> and, john, this has been like a full circle moment for you and experience, i would imagine, and acclaimed actor in your own right. i read that michael mayer, the director, insisted that you participate and you play a role as a leading actor in this production is it true that you were the one who actually

introduced michael to the avett brothers music? it is. >> it's true. i mean, i was i was sort of a an unofficial pr rep for the avett brothers circa 2006 to 2008. i was a die hard fan, i still am. i saw them play in 2005 at the philadelphia folk festival when i was 21 years old, and i bought mignonette on cd, and i became a super fan and then just followed them up and down the east coast. i was just telling everybody that i knew that they had to hear this band. i was like, you have to hear them. >> they're the best songwriters. it's incredible. their live show is second to none. it's the best. >> and i got michael into into them. i had an ava brothers poster on my dressing room wall when i was doing american idiot on on broadway. >> you didn't pay him to say any of this is all true. >> really? he's getting a cut these days um, and so i made michael listen to their music and as people always do, he. he fell in love with it. and and we've seen what they're capable of doing on stage every night. and so that they set a high bar that we just we're

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finally, we look back to one of those defining moments which changed our world. >> 45 years ago. the iranian revolution overthrew the shah created the islamic republic of iran and transformed the region with the u.s. these stresses grew and exploded in the form of iranian hostage crisis of november 1979. now, to mark the anniversary of this event, a new cnn happened, featuring christiane herself and several former hostages who bore witness to that perilous time in history here's a clip from that night splayed out on a couch feet are tied, hands are tied all these iranians and they're gathered around this literally this little transistor radio. >> and you could hear somebody on the radio speaking farsi and i didn't know at the time that it was ayatollah khomeini ayatollah khomeini led the islamic revolution they thought he was the savior of the poor

people. >> they thought he was going to bring democracy and fairness and equality to the country initially, it looked like action of the students. >> and then i told khomeini, announced that he is in full support of the takeover of the united states embassy. >> he blessed them and then that was it. >> they became iran's heroes this now became a test of wills between the iranian government, the revolutionary government and the american >> and that's when i knew we were going to be there for a while. >> and how it really happened with jesse l martin airs tomorrow night at 9 p.m. eastern and pacific on cnn. well, that's all we have time for. don't forget, you can find all of our shows online as podcasts at cnn.com. slash audio