see that their quarter two net profits for 2024 were 150 million. so up to 154 million. that could cover their entire profits from the last quarter. so that is why macy's is taking their time. they want to sort of report this out, figure out exactly what's going on. and the bottom line is in the clothing industry, you know, and what macy's operates in small margins mean, up to 154 could cover their entire profits from the last quarter. >> one thing i do know expenses are hard. >> expenses are very hard. i have not done my expenses in two months, but i promise you, elizabeth hartfield, my dear boss, i am going to do them soon. >> and let's hope they don't make up $154 million. >> i tend to doubt it. >> harry and thank you very much. the news continues right here on cnn outfront next the breaking news. >> a massive drone attack underway in kyiv at this hour. this is nato tonight warns to prepare for a, quote, wartime scenario in ukraine strikes again deep inside russia. is putin

about to retaliate in a much bigger and broader way? tonight and above the law, special counsel jack smith dropping his two major cases against trump. trump gets his get out of jail free card and sets his sights now on revenge. plus, he helped trump win pennsylvania and got the amish to vote but few people know who scott pressler is, and he's fascinating. why? he's the secret weapon that many republicans are choosing to keep at arm's length. let's go out front and good evening. i'm erin burnett out front tonight, the breaking news under attack. killer drones. as we speak, striking ukraine's capital of kyiv at this hour. the mayor of kyiv says iranian made drones used by russia are swarming the city from all directions. and that situation right now is quickly escalating. a top nato military official tonight warning companies across the u.s. and europe that they need to prepare for a quote wartime scenario and reuters tonight is reporting that the german government is now

expanding a list of bunkers that can be used as emergency shelters. the german government germany talking about emergency bomb shelters. they have plans. they say, to convert basements, underground garages and subway stations into possible shelters. i remember days before the bombs and missiles started landing in ukraine, walking around looking at places and thinking, this is stuff from world war two. is this really serious? and then we all heard when those missiles started landing that night and the world has changed. now you're hearing that from germany tonight. ukraine also upping the ante after nearly three years of fighting again striking deep inside russia overnight, these images shared by the russian and ukrainian telegram channels, allegedly what you're seeing on your screen showing a strike near a russian airfield. now, cnn has not been able to independently verify this video. this is all very new. as we are speaking russia tonight also on its side, taking precautions. putin has been making it very clear what you're looking at here, that he's going to mass produce these nuclear resistant bomb

shelters. and they've been putting these images out for everyone to see. in fact, moscow is now producing four times as many weapons as the european union. that's according to the german defense minister. it's not a russian propaganda estimate. it's the german defense minister. four times more for russia versus the eu in entirety. and on russia's state television tonight, they're bragging. putin's allies are touting russia's new hypersonic missiles. actually showing simulations of the missiles hitting european capitals. ukraine's former top general reportedly warning that world war three has already begun. oren lieberman begins our coverage tonight out front, live at the pentagon. and, oren, the u.s. watching what's happening on the ground at this very hour in ukraine extremely closely. these masses of drones that they say are descending from all directions upon kyiv. what more can you tell us? >> erin, the pentagon tracks very closely what types of weapons weapons russia fires and the quantities of those. and those have been very great

indeed. it's not just a drone attack on kyiv and other places. tonight we saw very similar large scale drone attack last night with the devastating iranian shahid drones ukraine said yesterday they intercepted 50 out of 73. that's an impressive number, but we have seen repeatedly how much damage, devastation and frankly, death. 23 drones, drones that get through ukrainians ukraine's defenses can cause. now, russia has kept this barrage up, partially because it's gotten help from iran and north korea in supplying its own military, and that has allowed them, as they push on the ground, to also attack in the air. now, ukraine certainly is not defenseless. and for the first time, john kirby of the national security council acknowledged publicly that ukraine has been able to use u.s. long range missiles atacms to attack deeper inside russia. he also acknowledged that these have been used in the kursk region we saw the first of those attacks with eight missiles. of these atacms variety, according to u.s. officials used to attack ammunition depots and storage

facilities inside of kursk. the video you showed a moment ago, that may be another use of the atacms missiles. we don't know that for sure yet, but ukraine clearly focusing on that. and because of the limited supply of these missiles every use of them even in small quantities, is absolutely worth noticing. it is this use of atacms missiles that russia has used as an excuse to update its nuclear doctrine. of course, the u.s. and the pentagon are watching that closely, although they largely view that as more nuclear. saber rattling. still, it is a very dangerous moment, erin. and that is what we and, of course, the pentagon are tracking. >> all right. thank you very much, oren. at the pentagon. and it comes as russia is celebrating president-elect trump's picks for his new administration fred pleitgen, with that part of the story out front as ukrainian forces grow ever more desperate, trying to hold off advancing russian troops, the kremlin is growing ever

more hopeful. >> the incoming trump administration will try to end the war on terms favorable for moscow. the words peace or peace plan come from trump supporters and those nominated for future positions in the upcoming administration, the kremlin spokesman said today the russians, irate after the biden administration allowed ukraine to use longer distance u.s. and uk supplied missiles to strike deeper inside russia. russian president vladimir putin in return firing a new used in war. president-elect trump's pick for national security advisor confirming ending the ukraine war will be an urgent priority. >> president trump has been very clear about the need to end this conflict, and so what we're need to be discussing is who's at that table? >> and from trump insiders and cabinet picks proposals seemingly in line with moscow's demands. elon musk posting his ideas on his x account in early october 2022, calling for

un monitored referendums in areas of ukraine occupied by russia for crimea to be recognized as russian, and for ukraine to remain neutral. ukraine's president who has said he does believe the war will end faster under trump, also said last week in a radio interview that ukraine cannot be forced into talks. musk, then trolling zelenskyy once again despite elon musk giving crucial battlefield support to ukraine by providing starlink satellite internet to its troops. russians we spoke to in moscow unequivocal they like him he's an extraordinary personality this man says. and since he fulfilled himself and his business society will work with him well elon musk i think elon musk is a good example of the future of our planet she says. he's doing a lot to bring our planet forward, and it's a good development. but others in trump's orbit with clear pro-kremlin views former fox host tucker carlson traveled to

moscow in february, where he praised russian supermarkets it's pretty non-sanctioned to me before sitting down with vladimir putin for an extended interview tell us why you believe the united states might strike russia out of the blue. >> how did you conclude that? >> i didn't say that are we having a talk show or a serious conversation well the russian leader patient saying he's willing to listen to the trump administration's proposals you see, what was said concerning the desire to restore relations with russia to help end the ukrainian crisis. >> in my opinion, seems to me to be at least worthy of attention. and tonight, aaron more threats coming from the russians. a senior russian lawmaker coming out and saying that that big missile that the russians launched at ukraine shows what he calls the inevitability of retaliation should things escalate further here in this region, russian deputy foreign minister also

coming out and saying that russia has security interests in this region, which it will ensure by all possible means. >> aaron, fred thank you very much. in moscow tonight, ian bremmer is with now renowned global affairs analyst and founder of eurasia group and gzero media of course, also your fantastic show on pbs. so we go through, you hear what oren's reporting, you've got these drones as we are speaking, descending in this mass attack on kyiv in the context of ukrainian missiles made by the u.s. striking deep inside russia, putin with his saber rattling, nuclear resistant bomb shelters germany telling people where their bomb shelters are. if there's anything that kind of harkens people, you know, intellectually and emotionally back to world war ii, it would be that germany warning moscow is outproducing all of the eu by 4 to 1 on weapons. it's a it's it's a it's a very frightening moment and right now it appears that the ball is in putin's court. >> let's remember the two things that matter that have changed in the past few months. number one, the russians were

losing territory because of the ukrainians. they're now gaining territory because of the ukrainians. >> number two, biden president kamala harris, close to a coin flip being able to win. turns out trump's about to be the president. everything we are seeing right now is performative from the russians because they understand that they are not losing. they are gaining and that means that they can show that biden, who is the lamest of ducks on this specific policy, his policy is failing from the russian perspective. that gives trump much more reason to back away from it and to say, i'm the guy that's avoiding world war iii, i'm the guy that's engaging with the russians to bring peace and end to the war. as i promised also allows the russians to have a better shot at splitting the europeans as we are starting to see over the last week with comments publicly from a number of the european leaders. right. >> and of course, a big victory for the pro-russian romanian government in romania in the first round, right on the border of ukraine, but will

probably win in two weeks time. >> in the second round, it was a big surprise. the russians clearly providing support, at least from an algorithmic and ideological perspective don't know about how free or fair those elections were, but do know that this is another important eu state that, assuming he wins you're going to have a significant call to end this war to stop support from ukraine from yet another european union and nato member. >> so when you hear, you know, fred pleitgen talking to people on the streets of moscow, they think highly of elon musk and elon musk, of course, was crucial in providing support for ukraine in this war when it came to starlink but obviously, and many crucial points has been very closely aligned with putin and russian talking points more on the war itself so does putin see an ally in musk right now? >> i think putin sees someone he can do a deal with, with trump, and that elon is potentially useful because of

what elon has been publicly saying about russia and ukraine in the past weeks certainly, how to end the war undermining zelenskyy publicly. but look, this is very dif last peace deal that trump cut as president. that was afghanistan. that was the taliban. that was the deal that he cut by himself, not with american allies but the clean up on aisle three was done by the biden administration. right. this time around anything that trump does to cut a deal with the russians, he's in charge of the cleanup. and and i think that actually means that trump is not going to give the entire store away to putin, because he's going to have to live with those consequences for four years. >> so while we were speaking, you have mass drone attack going down on kyiv. trump just came out on truth social. his website, and says that he is going to be putting tariffs on day one. so presumably via executive order, if this is actually something he can do on day one of 25% on every single

thing coming in from canada and mexico. and he also said he's going to put another additional 10% tariff on china, on top of what else is already there. 20 now, i don't know what he's not saying here what this is, but 25% on every single thing coming in from canada. and mexico is a seismic shock. >> look, i remember you from cnbc and bloomberg days. i'm not i don't know if i'm allowed to say that on cnn, but you understand how the markets are likely to react to that if they were implemented big gif. >> and he says on day one, i mean, it isn't like i hypothetically mean it. >> i mean, he said 24 hours to end the war in ukraine to he sometimes exaggerates a little sometimes i think that this is meant to be an opening position. the united states is in a much more powerful position vis a vis its allies around the world and vis a vis china china's economy right now is in the worst shape it's been since the 90s. maybe the 70s. i was just there a few weeks ago. they're deeply concerned about what an increase in tariffs from the united states would mean for their economy. this

time around you're going to see offers from these countries. why wouldn't trump in the weeks before he's president throw that out when they have an opportunity before he's president to say, no, no no, please, here's what we'll do for you. i think he's smoking him out a little bit early on. there's no reason for him not to do it. >> well, certainly that's what the markets will hope, because a 25% tariff from canada and mexico of every single thing coming in, obviously would be calamitous. it would be calamitous. all right. thank you very much, ian bremmer and next, jack smith throwing in the towel today announcing he will no longer be prosecuting trump. the president elect meantime setting his sights on revenge. but was this exoneration the answer is no. plus, the next act vice president kamala harris, now weighing her next move. so will it be for president in 2028 or governor of california where gavin newsom currently sits and our elle reeve tracking down the man credited with helping deliver pennsylvania for trump? he is a fascinating character. so he's known for peddling conspiracy theories. what happens when she sits down with

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filing a final report about his investigations. that, of course, will be crucial. evan perez is outfront live in washington, though evan what more are you learning from your sources tonight well, erin, we know that this is a discussion that's been going on in jack smith's office since before the election and, of course, the final blow to jack smith's cause here came with the verdict from the voters on november 5th, electing donald trump. >> and, of course, you know, the former president has enjoyed the help of the supreme court, right which took months to render a decision on immunity and eventually did give him broad immunity. you had aileen cannon the judge in southern florida who had this case, the classified documents case and eventually tossed it. and so what today we saw from jack smith was essentially a surrender to the inevitable. right. one of the things that you read in his filing, i'll read just a part of it. it says the department's position is that the constitution requires that this case be dismissed before the defendant is inaugurated. this outcome is

not based on the merits or the strength of the case against the defendant and what they're referring to here. erin is the fact that the justice department has a long standing rule that a sitting president cannot be prosecuted and it turns out that also applied to a president elect now, if you read the filing, you'll also see that they say that they're asking for the judge, for the judges. in these two cases to dismiss without prejudice now, that raises the possibility that these cases could be revived when trump is no longer president. judge tanya chutkan ruled on at least that part of the case. i'll read you just a part of what she says, she says. dismissal without prejudice is also consistent with the government's understanding that the immunity afforded to a sitting president is temporary expiring when they leave office. so, erin, you can bet the question will arise you know, when donald trump becomes president, does his justice department just simply go back to the courts and say, this time we mean it with prejudice and that means these cases are done and dead forever.

>> all right. evan perez thank you very much. so let's go straight to ty cobb former trump white house lawyer. so ty, you know, you hear evan's reporting and trump's response to the cases being dropped he says he won. he puts the word won in all caps. he says the cases were empty and lawless. he his spokesperson calls it a major victory for the rule of law does any of this true well, i think it is true that he won, but what he won was not these cases, and he won the presidency and it's that win that puts him in the position that jack smith had to acknowledge today. >> um, you know it's not that as jack said in his filings, that, you know, the evidence has changed or that the strength of the cases has changed at all. and keep in mind that trump's defense throughout this has never been factual. there's really no debate about the facts, and there's no debate that the facts constitute crimes. what the debate has always been in trump's mind is, nah nah, nah,

you can't get me and that that proved to be true, that they ran out of time and the american people bestowed upon him the presidency, which puts him in a constitutional position that he can no longer be pursued so you were looking through the charges. >> you know that if trump had been convicted of, say one of the charges specifically in the january 6th case, that that would have resulted in 6 to 9 years in prison, right? so that's what an alternative um, world would have perhaps resulted in 6 to 9 years in prison on one of them. now, smith did leave open the door for future prosecution in these cases. but i mean is that just sort of words? i mean, is there any reality behind that rhetoric? will trump ever be held accountable so you any reality behind that rhetoric? will trump ever be held accountable so you know, there are hypotheticals, dancing on the, you know, tip of a pen kind of theories that,

you know you could see that might play out for example, if there was some conspiracy to obstruct a witness testimony or continue obstruction. >> um, you know, with regard to the evidence in the case or with witnesses, you know, that's occurring today that could arguably extend the statute of limitations beyond his term but, you know, the simple reality of this is no, i mean, this case is dead. this case is not going to be restarted or revived, right? both both cases and the most serious case of the law is the where the classified documents cases where the where the potential penalties were up to 20 years. and you know, definitely he would have he would have gone to jail once that made it to a competent judge. >> right. and that, of course, you had aileen cannon as the judge on that which, which plagued it from the beginning. but but also any legal expert that i've spoken to has said that was the that was the black and white case, that was the, the one obviously where the fact pattern was very clear, excruciatingly clear. but i'm curious from where trump is now

though, ty and you both know him and see him back in the white house again. he has vowed retribution right? he's been very clear that he believes that that is necessary after what he says he was subjected to so his attorney general now is most likely to be pam bondi kash patel, possibly at the doj also so what does retribution look like? do you think? >> well, you know, they have vowed certainly he has vowed and others, um um, you know, involved in the transition team have vowed vengeance with regard to the prosecutors and the and the agents. of course, they didn't do anything wrong. um, and there's really nothing to pursue him about. and, and frankly, you know, it's it's almost ironic because you know, if they try to take vengeance, given his palpable conflict of interest, the president's palpable conflict of interest you know, they're likely entitled to a special counsel, which, you know, he's had his lawyers argue and and his pet judge, uh approved the theory

that that's unconstitutional. i don't think there's a i don't think there's a legitimate way to pursue these people on the facts or the law or without an independent counsel all right. >> ty cobb, thank you very much. i appreciate it. van jones scott jennings with me now former congressman jones, let me just start with you how worried do you think jack smith and others should be right now that donald trump could target them or for revenge? no. ty is laying out how difficult it may be in the specific cases of some of the prosecutors, like jack smith, involved but obviously promises of retribution over legal cases against trump goes much more broad than that look, i think that donald trump has been very clear that he's got a list of enemies and that jac are on that list and it remains to be seen how serious he is about going after them. >> i think someone like a matt gaetz would have really pursued that at the department of justice. let's see what pam

bondi does if and when she's confirmed to to lead the department. there are also obvious political ramifications for what happened today with these voluntary dismissals of these cases. first of all, it cements merrick garland's legacy as being the most ineffective attorney general of the united states in modern history because he waited so long to open these investigations such that we find ourselves at this point. but also donald trump. unfortunately is speaking to folks who are not hearing the truth about these investigations. and so this is going to strengthen his argument unfortunately, in their minds, that these cases were the result of politics rather than the merits. and i do believe he would have been convicted in both of these matters the way he was convicted earlier this year in a separate matter. but this is this is a real problem, and it strengthens his hand when he says he wants to purge the department of justice of the deep state, for example, which is something we know is a falsehood. but to people seeing this voluntary dismissal, many, many americans are going to think, oh, so i guess there was no basis for these cases in the

first place. >> well, and i guess that could have argued for him, you know, waiting until trump forced it out. obviously, smith did not feel that was the right, right thing to do. scott, can i ask you, though there's also within trump's inner circle, turmoil and chaos. who is it nikki haley. that said, wherever he goes chaos follows. now, i understand that was in the context of a political campaign, but nonetheless, we are reporting that attorneys for trump have been looking at many instances of boris epshteyn a top aide in that inner circle who has wielded a lot of power, reportedly requesting payment or consulting fees basically, in exchange for appointments or access or things like that. in one case, they say he requested $100,000 a month. good work. if you can get it $100,000 a month. okay, he denies this but, um this is the real question of whether what trump's going to do when presented with this this this is look, we'll see more of this. but in this particular case, this has been burbling for a while. yeah.

>> well, you said when presented with it, i'd be surprised if he doesn't already know about it, right? i mean, he's been involved epstein. i mean, has been involved in a couple of issues in the transition. one was the attempt to go around the background process for people who want security clearances. the second was the matt gaetz fiasco which is probably the least successful, which apparently he, along with trump and matt gaetz hatched on the plane. >> yeah correct. while susie wiles was doing business on the other side of the wall lasted eight days. >> and now the third thing is, is this issue and so, you know, traditionally when you get out over your skis this much at this level of politics, you wind up over feet and into a tree somewhere and that seems to be what's happening here. and i think when you're in the middle of a transition, that's i actually don't agree with the characterization that it's been chaotic. i think they've run a very efficient, good transition under the direction of the transition chairs mcmahon and lutnick with susie wiles also in as the incoming chief of staff this is not

charst of it is being run, and t seems to go back to one person. i think it was right for the transition to look into what was happening there. i mean, certainly everybody who wants a job is trying to find a way in, but if you're already being paid by trump to assist him on legal matters and other issues it doesn't seem right that you would also be trying to get paid on the other side of the algebra $100,000 a month, according to this allegation, which of course, he um he does deny. >> well, we'll see how it plays out. thank you very much, scott. appreciate both of you. and next, new reporting tonight about kamala harris, the vice president telling allies she's staying in the fight and keeping her options open. so what is she doing next? plus, he helped deliver pennsylvania for trump. yet why are some republicans keeping scott pressler at arm's length? our elle reeve tracked him down there are amazing things that are happening all over the world, things that can make our lives better. >> that's the goal of my podcast.

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smart to to be very clear that she has options and she's considering those. and that's what everybody in the democratic party is doing now especially in this race for dnc chair. we know that we need to change in order to win. and i would hope that, you know, after as tough as a race that she fought i would hope that that i think it's right that she would say and would conclude that she cannot leave this playing field. she has to keep doing everything she can to make a difference. >> so when you talk about change being needed to win for your party and this dnc race, right? you're running to be the next leader of the dnc. i sure am. so, so bill maher. you know he had been very critical of many things in the on the democratic side of things during this race. but he was of course, a harris supporter, and he's far from a fan of donald trump. he had something to say to your party. let me play it we know they are stupid. >> just don't say it

yeah yeah. i got bad news for you. they don't have a monopoly on stupid you. where queers for palestine t-shirts and masks. two years after the pandemic ended. and you can't define woman. i mean person who menstruates. you're the teacher's union education party. and you've turned schools and colleges into a joke. you just lost a crazy contest to an actual crazy person i don't know if that's how you'd say it even in private, governor, but do you agree with this premise? >> well, i agree with this. i agree that we need to change in order to win elections, and we have to rebuild our party, and we have to reconnect to the most important place in america. and that is the kitchen table of every american family. you know, aaron as i've

been on the on the phone talking to a lot of dnc members, talking to a lot of governors and congressional leaders, one thing that seems pretty clear is that most of us know that we have to make some changes, fast changes operationally in order to reconnect with working people and and the hopes and dreams of of families all across america, you know, in the places where our candidates actually did it we did much better than the national ticket. hakeem jeffries and and his candidates, they flipped six red districts to blue. we won in senate senate seats in michigan, arizona and nevada and wisconsin. but look, we need to ask ourselves how it is that in a time of economic recovery we did not win and or in some cases even engage in the economic conversation that americans wanted to hear from us. and and that's the fundamental change we need to make. the good news is it's really a return to our true selves, because that is our bedrock as a party

is fighting for working people. we need to get back to it. >> so, you know, a new cbs poll came in. it was interesting because buried in it was something that stood out to me, and that was this 69. 60%, 59 of all voters approve of how president-elect trump is handling his transition. i mean, that's pretty stunning. 59%. now, obviously, you're going to see that weighted much more so on the republicans. but that is a in us polling a vast mandate, right. never mind the election was about, you know, 5050. so do you see anything trump is doing right governor? >> i, i really cannot see anything that he's doing right. but i do think people are fatigued. people are are burned out and i think that's what those numbers are a reflection of because, aaron, if you look at this, uh, you know, many of the people in this kind of clown car cabinet, these are people that are committed to breaking institutions that americans thought were unbreakable and that were that that we have long taken for granted. i mean, whether it's

whether it's medicare, whether it's social security, whether it's so many things we are way beyond the norms that we had grown up thinking were the parameters of what defined a republic. many of the things we're about to see are going to be totally inconsistent with the republic. these tariffs that are going to drive up the cost of everything for families all across america. and as we come through this time, people are going to see that the democratic party has their back. we're going to rebuild, we're going to reconnect, and we're going to win elections. but we have to change to win. >> all right, well, governor o'malley, i appreciate your time. thank you very much. you said governor o'malley is running for chair of the dnc. and next you may not know his name, but he played a major role when it comes to why trump won, why he is back in the white house, specifically by courting the amish. so who is he and why are republicans now keeping their distance from him? plus, a court hearing today for the menendez brothers, the first time in 28 years that we have heard from

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started everybody just big smile and look cute. >> okay. yeah. cheese. cheese scott pressler is the kind of political figure only possible in the trump era, going from social media influencer to actual proximity to power. scott scott's got. >> pressler is taking credit for turning pennsylvania red. he created a pac early vote action to register voters and targeted the amish frat guys hunters and other groups his pac got a $1 million donation from elon musk so walk us through how you do it. >> when i tell the amish that they can vote a private secret ballot that is mailed to their house and they don't have to have their buggies seen going to a polling location, they love the mail-in ballot, but a lot of people sort of come up as social media influencers, and then they fizzle out and you actually, you know, took the opportunity and started doing something quantifiable. >> he was at the capitol on january 6th and at trump's return to the scene of his near

assassination in butler, president trump took a bullet for us last week. pressler was in bucks county pennsylvania, because of a controversy over what ballots would be counted in the senate recount. a frustrated county commissioner had said some misdated and unsigned ballots would be counted. despite the rules if i violate this law, it's because i want a court to pay attention to it. this went very viral, in part because of pressler. she apologized at the next meeting. >> the passion in my heart got the best of me, and i apologize again for that. i made a mistake but by then, the pennsylvania supreme court had ruled those ballots wouldn't be counted. >> pressler and his fans had won, yet they turned out anyway. and the room had a kind of intense vibe do you think that 2020 election was stolen? >> it definitely was stolen. >> okay, so can you explain something to me? why, if they can steal an election why would they steal it once? but not this year.

>> because people were on to them. >> the divisions and the democrats made it very hard for them to try and steal it again. >> thank you to every single patriot that showed up today. we did it. i think what you heard today is the frustration of people that have been told they are election deniers. and here we have a sitting commissioner that's an election denier, and we have a currently sitting senator, bob casey, that is also an election denier. and it's almost karmic. and yes, that's why in part, we were here to take a victory lap. we won and we did it fair and square. >> if we take that commissioners words in the worst possible light, let's say she truly meant rules don't apply and she could count ballots that should be counted. she still failed to steal the election, right like you guys still won pennsylvania and bucks county so help me reconcile that with the with your past, with the stop the steal movement in 2020. like, why could it have been stolen once

but not a second time? >> injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. if we let them get away with doing this now, they'll do it in 2026. they'll do it in 2028. this was us peacefully putting our feet down and saying, no, enough is enough and we're not going to allow you to do illegal and unlawful actions and we're going to hold you accountable, ready one, two three. cheese trump i noticed that when you urge people to action, you often include the word peacefully. >> is that to avoid another jan six type incident with all due respect, it's to avoid people like you guys saying that i'm anything but my motto is to just be super cute, have my data and facts. >> treat everyone with love and respect and as you can see, an army of people will follow. >> and it was a small army which included followers of a korean church led by rapper king bullethead, play by play. so when you're up there speaking, it almost seemed like you were taking a bit of a

victory lap for turning pennsylvania in this county. red. >> absolutely. a lot of people questioned our voter registration. they said, scott, you know, flipping bucks county to a plurality of registered republicans, that's not going to translate into results and yes, a little bit of the victory lap was here to say that for the first time since 1988, we flipped this county and it voted for president trump. it's kind of, you know, saying to people, no we're the real deal. >> pressler first got attention in 2017 when he worked for an anti-muslim group and organized marches against sharia, despite there being no sharia law in america. he was also involved with gays. for trump, you described yourself as a data guy yes. early in your career, you were more of kind of like a social issues culture war guy, like gays for trump or act for america. can you tell me about that shift in your career i have grown in how i approach politics i see my work and my evolution in politics.

>> as i laid a foundation and now i am meticulously building on that and esoteric understanding of how politics is going to win elections focusing on demographic groups get them registered, get them mobilized, get them out to vote twice. >> rnc officials have indicated they would hire him but it hasn't worked out still, he's built a loyal fan base. have you spoken to president trump since the election? >> i've spoken to laura trump. >> what did she say? >> our conversations, out of respect to her and the trump family, are private. but she was congratulatory. >> and what about elon musk? i think he's a wonderful human being. have you talked to him since the election? >> we've messaged nothing consequential. >> god saved america hallelujah god is good it's just so fascinating. >> and watching him over these past months when i first saw him was really on twitter, right? it was that social media presence, um right there in that conversation with you, he admitted he hasn't spoken to trump since he won. um, and

obviously what he did for trump was hugely significant. why are republicans keeping him at some sort of arm's length? >> it seems ayanna pressley does have his conservative critics last year, during the race for the rnc chair, he posted the email addresses of committee members urging him them to vote for his candidate in that controversy, politico reported that years earlier, in 2016, he'd had a sexual encounter in a republican office in virginia and posted photos of it on craigslist and then, of course, he is an election denier. but the era of those folks being pushed to the fringe of the party seems to have passed. >> yeah, that certainly would not. that would not cause the arm's length. but it is, you know, just just to watching the whole thing. really fascinating. all right. thank you. so much, ellie. having that conversation with scott pressler and next, a court hearing today for the menendez brothers, their first in nearly 30 years. so are they any closer to getting out of prison for killing their parents

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>> it's presented themselves what can a kid do when his father's like i can't stand it. >> that is kitty menendez's sister. >> and this is jose menendez. sister 35 years is a long time. >> they want their nephew's home. >> the judge has now set january 30th and 31st as the days for a plenary or fulsome hearing on the resentencing we're hoping that by the end of that, or sometime sooner, that we will, in fact, get the brothers released today, eric and lyle menendez were supposed to make their first public appearance in nearly 30 years, but apparent technical difficulties meant they did not appear in this la court via video link. >> all we heard was one brother, say riley we've had video access the entire time.

>> back in the mid 1990s. this was a sensational televised trial after a sensational crime prosecutors said the boys wanted their parents money. the brothers, who were 18 and 21 at the time, claimed they feared for their lives after enduring years of emotional, physical and sexual abuse by their father and that's why they killed their parents he would put me on my knees and he would guide me all my movements, and i would have oral sex with him. lyle and erik were sentenced to life without the possibility of parole. >> jose menendez and his wife, kitty, then in 2023, docu series alleged jose menendez, a powerful record exec, had also molested a member of a boy band menudo. >> i know what he did to me in his house. >> the brothers lawyers pushed for their case to be reopened. then a netflix drama and documentary reignited public

interest. la's d.a. asked a judge to reconsider sentencing which might see the brothers released immediately, saying that a jury might react very differently now than they did back in the 1990s. >> i believe that they have paid their debt to society. >> but d.a. george gascon, a progressive, was just ousted in november's election. the tougher on crime nathan hochman will take office december 2nd. >> i won't rely on just a netflix documentary or a netflix docu series as the source of my information to make this a very, very important decision now the dramas, the documentaries, social media have all reignited interest in this case to such a degree that there had to be a lottery today for seats in the public gallery. >> many of the people in that line weren't even born when this crime took place, or the trial took place inside kitty menendez is 93 year old sister joan said that she is distraught that st