of kindness in the spirit of thanksgiving and a world in which we decide, we want to be so polarized and be against everyone. why not come together? because right now we are in a very tight space in this country and so we have to learn to coexist. so i say that by coming and i like this side. >> can i get time served for being friends with him? >> absolutely. >> okay, let's switch the mood. >> ashley that was great. >> i love that. okay. please don't cancel me. a black twitter. i think dut dut dut dut i think bread stuffing is better than cornbread stuffing. >> you have to go home. >> okay, now i also think as a redeeming factor that canned cranberries are better than homemade. >> i absolutely do the literal best. >> i will also receive. i agree anyone who wants to do an act of kindness and give me some good cornbread stuffing. i will take that as well. happy thanksgiving everybody. okay. >> and thanks for watching newsnight. cnn's coverage

continues next both sides have been really ramping up their strikes. >> missiles from hezbollah bombing raids by the idf at hezbollah targets. until that ceasefire signed. it seems that the intense military operation that's going to continue. >> is this a case of celebrity justice? the menendez brothers have two hit shows on netflix it was an extremely gruesome killing merry christmas bells that ring. >> there are the quiet skies are doing well tonight. thank god it's them instead of you live from london. >> this is cnn newsroom with

max foster and christina macfarlane hello. >> and a warm welcome to our viewers joining us from around the world. i'm max foster. it is tuesday, november the 26th, 9 a.m. here in london, 4 a.m. in the eastern us, where donald trump is promising to impose massive new tariffs on china and america's neighbors. on his first day back in office, the incoming us president says mexico and canada will be charged a 25% tariff on all products coming into the u.s.. that would include everything from cars, furniture electronics to oil, food and lumber. trump claims the tariffs are a response to crime, drug trafficking and illegal immigration. he also posted that we'll be charging china an additional 10% tariff on all of their many products coming into the us, which led to this warning from china's embassy in london. in washington rather, no one will win a trade war. cnn's steven jiang is covering this live for us from beijing. the reality

here is that both these nations are dependent on each other in terms of trade. but clearly, president trump is trying to draw a line that's right. you know, just a short while ago, a chinese foreign ministry spokeswoman actually declined to answer the question of how china would respond now, if anything, they could probably use some clarification from trump as well because i think we're not exactly clear whether or not trump plans to impose this 10% additional tariff. >> at the same time as the 60% tariffs he promised repeatedly during the campaign on all chinese imports. but of course, chinese officials have been preparing to deal with this prospect for months and interesting, i've been hearing slightly different sentiment from different officials here. those in charge of diplomacy tend to put on a more brave face saying china is capable and willing to fight back, while those with an economic portfolio sometimes sounded a bit more cautious. perhaps because of the sluggish chinese

economy. and that, of course, is going to play a major role in their decision making with many experts suggesting the chinese response is likely to be more targeted and asymmetrical, meaning they are going to target u.s. companies and industries they may already intend to squeeze in. the chinese market. and the other thing, of course, they've been doing is to diversify their export markets, trying to reduce their reliance on the u.s. market. but more noteworthy though, is the fentanyl issue, because trump explicitly linking china's failure to stem the flow of fentanyl into the u.s. to this latest announcement, china, of course denies that privately, officials have been complaining the u.s. doesn't show any appreciation for their effort sometimes even at the expense of their own economic interests. now, recently, we got into a counter-narcotics lab here in beijing, where officials actually told us that just resumed a dialogs and exchanges on this issue have already produced progress with their communication with their

u.s. counterparts, actually helping both sides identify and trace new chemicals used to produce fentanyl. and sometimes and they have also mentioned examples of u.s. provided tips leading to concrete law enforcement actions here on the ground. so the irony here, max, is if trump's new tariffs end up creating another free fall in this overall relationship, it could actually have very negative consequences on this very issue. he is now linking to these new tariff threats against china. max. >> he's also very clear donald trump. many people say he's very transactional. he's clear that there is always an option of negotiation when he's talking with canada and mexico for example. is there a sense in beijing that there may be some way of negotiating a way through this rather than, you know coming back with a hard response yeah, i think that's certainly part of the consideration, which is why now they declined to answer the question just a short while ago at the foreign ministry. >> they don't want to reveal their cards too early at this

stage, but they are also, uh, very much haunted by trump's first term. while uh, having to deal with a lot of wild swings in his china policy including these tariff threats and policies so i think at the end of the day, that's why it's so important for them to diversify their export markets, which is something very much reflected in their in their more recent trade data. remember mexico has now replaced china as the top exporter into the u.s. market, even though china's global share as an exporter continues to rise. max. >> okay. steven jiang in beijing. thank you so much. canada's deputy prime minister and public safety minister issued a fairly neutral response to to trump's threat of new tariffs they called the relationship between the two countries balanced and mutually beneficial, particularly for american workers, and said that discussions about tariffs will continue. meanwhile, us special counsel jack smith, dismissing all federal charges against trump that means the january 6th election subversion case

and the classified documents case are both over, at least for now trump is taking a victory lap, calling the prosecutions a political hijacking and a low point in the history of our country. he's boasting that he persevered against all odds, and he won. cnn's evan perez picks up the story special counsel jack smith asked federal judges overseeing the two criminal prosecutions of donald trump to drop those cases citing the long standing justice department rules that forbid prosecuting a sitting president. >> smith made the filings in washington, d.c. where the election subversion case was filed against trump and with the 11th circuit court of appeals in atlanta, which has a pending appeal of a ruling dismissing charges in the classified documents case. smith says that he consulted with lawyers from the office of legal counsel, which serves as the in-house law determined that trump is covered by that shield against prosecution. even now, as president elect

smith says in his filing the department's position is that the constituti this outcome is not based on the merits or strength of the case against the defendant. smith requested that the classified documents case continue for two of trump's co-defendants who were accused of helping him obstruct the investigation judge tanya chutkan quickly granted smith's request to dismiss the january 6th related case quote, without prejudice meaning that the dismissal applies only while trump is president. judge chutkan wrote the dismissal without prejudice is also consistent with the government's understanding that the immunity afforded to a sitting president is temporary expiring when they leave office. so does that mean that the cases against trump could be revived after he leaves office? that's anyone's guess. once trump is president, he also could order his justice department to kill the cases for good. evan perez cnn, washington

a top nato official is warning businesses to reduce their reliance on china and russia, and to prepare for what he calls a wartime scenario. >> a dutch admiral, rob bauer is the chair of nato's military committee. he told the european policy center that part of nato's deterrence effort to make sure crucial goods and services can continue to flow, no matter what. he says europe has seen a number of acts of sabotage to its energy supply and says a deal with gazprom is actually a personal deal with russia's president. that message to the west comes as ukraine's foreign minister meets with g7 foreign ministers in italy. the group plans to discuss continued support for ukraine, along with plans for peace and reconstruction. meanwhile ukraine says russia launched 188 drones overnight. a record number. ukraine's military says it shot down 76 of them. the country's air force says russia also fired four ballistic missiles, which damaged critical infrastructure in one region. earlier, the

mayor of kyiv reported a massive aerial attack on the city with iranian made shahed drones coming from different directions salma, what do you make of all this record number of drones? >> 188 fired overnight. our team on the ground says that air raid sirens did not stop all night long. those interceptions kept coming. still, some drones or some remnants fell and there was damage to homes, to buildings. no reports of casualties yet, but it's part of this continued escalation that we've seen when it comes to this conflict. and it comes as you mentioned, g7 foreign ministers meeting today in italy alongside ukraine's foreign minister. you expect, of course, that they're going to continue that same rhetoric that we've heard throughout this conflict from ukraine's allies, from european partners. we are in lockstep with you. we stand with ukraine. we will do whatever it takes for as long as it takes but everyone there is of course, preparing for a president trump, a president

trump who has said he wants this war to end quickly. so when you see a record number of drones fired on the ground and you see the activity that's happening on the ground, and just to remind our viewers, just in the last couple of weeks, you've had president biden approve longer range missiles. president zelenskyy has been using those those u.s. made atacms to fire into russia. there has been the lowering of the nuclear threshold with an update to the nuclear doctrine from president putin's side. there's also been this push on kursk as well by president putin. and, of course, that extraordinary moment that we saw these multiple warhead ballistic missiles, these experimental weapons used in dnipro. you are looking at warring parties that are very much preparing for the possibility of talks and strengthening their negotiating positions on the ground. so you almost have these two parallel realities happening at once. g7 leaders sitting in italy saying, we're going to do what it takes. we stand with ukraine while on the ground you have both sides preparing for that possibility that they may be

brought to the negotiating table very soon by president trump. >> a matter of weeks until president trump comes into power. what more can the biden administration do to support ukraine in that time? >> well, the first thing they did is the approval of those long range missiles. the approval of hitting these targets deeper inside russia but there was a response to that. there was consequences to that. and that is that president putin fired those experimental ballistic missiles in dnipro he's been pushing ever harder in kursk to try to regain that territory. he's making gains on the eastern front. so yes, ukraine has had this additional push from president biden. but does that continue? does that change factors on the ground? it has not. so far. ukraine is still very much on the back foot, particularly in kursk. even with those longer range missiles. >> salma, thank you so much now analysts say this could be the busiest holiday travel season in the u.s. on record and as they get ready to celebrate thanksgiving on thursday, a

disruptive winter storm is on its way. that could seriously impact travel plans across the u.s. >> we're tracking two storms for your thanksgiving week one in the process of exiting. >> we'll have some showers exit offshore. the east coast today, but that could still bring you some minor delays from new york to boston. the bigger, more potent storm continues to develop in the rockies. that's bringing some delays from salt lake city back towards california, and that will continue to push east and could cause some headaches as we go through the holiday week. so once again exiting off shore through the day today the next storm already continuing to brew, and we'll find that rain becoming more widespread by wednesday into thursday. a pretty soggy thanksgiving for a lot of the east coast. we could even have some snow for parts of interior new england. a couple of inches of snow possible there, and then the rain stretches from dc down to charlotte. pass, atlanta and even down towards the florida panhandle we're looking at maybe an inch or two of rain, so not a lot. a couple of

inches of snow as well. again mainly focused in interior new england parts of upstate new york and maine as well some inches of snow also in the rockies. so again, travel headaches mainly focused on thursday. really on wednesday we could have a couple in the rockies again as that storm continues to develop. but as we get towards thursday, that's when they become more widespread for bigger cities from new york and boston d.c. down to atlanta. because of some of that rain and snow that will make thanksgiving travel pretty soggy. the parade in new york city that macy's thanksgiving day parade will also be a pretty wet one, with some of that rain during parade time again, showers stretching down the east coast, and it's pretty cold behind this front so you'll want to bundle up for any black friday shopping weather isn't the only thing that's disrupting air travel. >> inconsiderate behavior by passengers also resulting in airport chaos. american airlines, hoping to curb some of that with new technology to catch and call out line cutters at the boarding gates. cnn's

pete muntean went to check it out for customers are welcome to board thanksgiving travel. >> line cutters consider this your warning american airlines now has a new system where if you jump the boarding line you will get booted from the line and go back to board with the group that you're supposed to board with. >> okay, you're in group five. >> this is something called gate lice. >> according to the airline industry, they've really been trying to crack down on this because boarding is a huge pain point for airlines it can be kind of confusing on american airlines because they have nine boarding groups. so this is what happens when you get out your boarding pass and you're out of sequence. maybe you're in group eight, but they're really calling group five. you're trying to rush the line that's the sound that says that i now have to make the walk of shame back with my group to board with them instead of trying to rush the line and board ahead of time. american says. so far, the response has been relatively

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a deal would be an historic mistake. paula hancocks, following the developments from abu dhabi. it does feel as if this is moving quickly. where did they find the common ground well max, we're certainly hearing positive sounds from from all sides at this point, but we are also hearing a lot of caution, especially from the biden administration, which has been helping to broker this ceasefire proposal. >> they have issued an awful lot of caveats in everything they have said over the past 24 hours or so, we heard from john kirby in within the the white house that we're close. but i want to be careful until you get everything done. you don't have a deal. something very similar from the state department. matthew miller. nothing is final until everything is final. i think the biden administration has certainly been burned a number of times when it comes to the the talks el many times they have thought they were close only to realize they

were not and so what we're hearing from this point from lebanese officials, one official says that they believe that this could be done within 24 hours. now, they said that late on monday. so there is optimism in lebanon that this could potentially go through. so what we understand is that the israeli cabinet will meet later today, and they will vote on this proposal. we understand that the israeli prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, has agreed to the deal in principle but as you mentioned, there are those within his cabinet. most notably the far right wing lawmaker ben-gvir who are not happy with this proposal. he has said that he wants to see hezbollah completely eradicated and thinks that this is a missed opportunity for israel. but all that being said, we are waiting now to to see whether or not they can get past the finish line. it would be a 60 day ceasefire, so it wouldn't be

permanent. but what the hope is, is that it would it form the basis of a more permanent ceasefire? we've also heard from the eu's top diplomat speaking at the g7 meeting urging the sides to agree. let's listen there is no excuses for a ceasefire on the proposal. >> agreement brokered by the u.s. and france israel has all security concerns there is not an excuse for not implementing a ceasefire otherwise lebanon will fall apart israel has warned its residents, though, that there is an increased chance of rocket fire ahead of the ceasefire and we are seeing significant amount of airstrikes in southern lebanon and the southern suburbs of beirut, as well max. >> i think everyone understands what a ceasefire is, but um, how sensitive will each side be

to that? if a rocket came over from lebanon into israel, would we be straight back to where we are now believe that hezbollah is violating the terms of the ceasefire and it is something that they had put forward, that they wanted a clause written in that they were able to to to militarily respond something which, of course, hezbollah said was unacceptable in lebanese officials, believed it was unacceptable as well as it violated the sovereignty. we understand, though, that that the biden administration has been working around this particular issue because they understand that israel does want to be able to react quickly if they perceive that hezbollah is moving further south close to the border, if they believe that they are rearming. but this was really

one of the the trickier points when they were trying to to agree to this ceasefire as to whether or not there would be this chance to respond and to be honest, if there wasn't this, it's not a clause, but if there wasn't this proviso for israel to be able to respond in the future, it would have been extremely difficult for the israeli prime minister to get it approved by his cabinet max paula, in abu dhabi, back with you with any updates. >> thank you so much now french prosecutors are asking for the maximum sentence for dominique pelicot. the man accused of organizing the mass rape of his former wife over ten years of their marriage ten years. prosecutors say he is fully responsible for crimes committed against gisele pelicot he's become a face for women and sexual abuse survivors amid the public trial, she was greeted with cheers and flowers. as you can see as she left the courthouse on monday

she's a heroine, a heroine, a very, very brave person, very dignified, very dignified. >> each time i see her pass in front, i think she stands tall. she's very dignified and magnificent. that's what she is. i'm full of admiration for that woman dominique pelicot who is 71, could face up to 20 years in prison. >> activists are pushing for harsher punishments for the dozens of other men accused. cnn's saskya vandoorne has more from outside the court. reporter i've just come out of the courtroom where no cameras are allowed inside, and prosecutors have requested a 20 year prison sentence against dominique pelicot. >> and it's really only when you're inside that the sheer scale of it hits you. row after row of men. most accused with aggravated rape against gisele pelicot, who's sitting just a few feet away from them with her head literally held high across the room from her sits the man accused of organizing these rapes her husband of 50 years, dominique pelicot. his

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number of 188 drones overnight. ukraine's military says it shot down 76 of them. the country's air force says russia also fired four ballistic missiles, which damaged critical infrastructure in one region, 16 people are missing after a tourist >> cadillac racing team it would join the sport in 2026. the agreement comes after months of speculation surrounding that deal. >> and new developments in the menendez brothers bid to leave prcalifoia judge has delayed the resentencing hearing for lyle and erik menendez to give the incoming district attorney time to review the case. the

brothers are serving a life sentence for the 1989 murder of their parents. cnn's nick watts has more. reporter they should never have been in such situations. >> it's presented themselves what can a kid do when his father's like i can't stand it. >> that is kitty menendez, sister. and this is jose menendez sister, 35 years is a long time. they want their nephews home. >> the judge has now set january 30th and 31st as the days plenary or fulsome hearing on the resentencing. we' fact, get the brothers released today. >> erik and lyle menendez were supposed to make their first public appearance in nearly 30 years, but apparent technical difficulties meant they did not appear in this l.a. court via video link. all we heard was

one brother, say riley we've had video access the entire time. back in the mid 1990s, this was a sensational televised trial after a sensational crime. prosecutors said the boys wanted their parents money. the brothers, who were 18 and 21 at the time, claimed they feared for their lives after enduring years of emotional, physical and sexual abuse by their father. and that's why they killed their parents. >> he would put me on my knees and he would guide me. all my movements and i would have oral sex with him. >> lyle and erik were sentenced to life without the possibility of parole. >> jose menendez and his wife, kitty, then in 2023 docu series alleged jose menendez a powerful record exec, had also molested a member of a boy band menudo. >> i know what he did to me in his house. >> the brothers lawyers pushed for their case to be reopened.

then a netflix drama and documentary reignited public interest. la's d.a. asked a judge to reconsider sentencing, which might see the brothers released immediately, saying that a jury might react very differently now than they did back in the 1990s. >> i believe that they have paid their debt to society. >> but d.a. george gascon, a progressive, was just ousted in november's election. the tougher on crime nathan hochman will take office december 2nd. >> i won't rely on just a netflix documentary or a netflix docu series as the source of my information to make this a very, very important decision. >> those dramas and documentaries and social media have generated such interest in this case that they had to do a lottery for seats in the public gallery for today's hearing, and some of the people in line for those seats weren't even born when this trial happened, or when the murders happened. one of the most emotional moments was when kitty's sister joan, took the stand and she

said this. she said no children should have to live in fear day by day that their dad could come and rape them. it breaks my heart that my sister kitty knew but did nothing about it. nick watt cnn, los angeles. >> one expert told cnn that the verdict may have been different if the jury had known about their parents abuse there's a real case to be made that if all that had gone into the trial, they wouldn't have been convicted. >> on the other hand, it was an extremely gruesome killing. they shop for guns. they ambushed their parents while they were sitting and watching television and eating ice cream. they fired 16 rounds. they blew their father's brains out. they blew their mother's face off. they even paused to reload when kitty was crawling away to fire the final shot so when you think of all that, you have to weigh the allegations

of molestation versus this horrific crime and that's up to now, the d.a. to do. the big question is, is this a case of celebrity justice? what about the thousands of other people who are doing life without the possibility of parole, who have their reasons for doing what they did so all of this is coming to a head because the menendez brothers have two hit shows on netflix. >> well, cnn legal analyst joey jackson says the outcome of the resentencing depends on a few key issues ultimately, it depends upon three very brief critical things. >> one is punishment and is punishment appropriate? is 35 years enough right? so there's a measure of punishment. number two, does that serve as an appropriate deterrent not only for them but in general for other people that might commit crimes. and number three, and this is critical

rehabilitation. are they sufficiently rehabilitated. that's going to be critical. they say they're doing great in jail, have helped other people and so that's going to be weighed. all those factors will go into the decision of whether they're released and pakistan supporters of imprisoned former prime minister imran khan have breached the city limits of the capital as they continue to clash with security forces earlier. >> police fired tear gas and rubber bullets at demonstrations in islamabad. khan's supporters have defied a police lockdown and court order prohibiting rallies inside the capital, sparking these latest confrontations and the clashes have turned deadly. doctors tell cnn at least five people have died, including four security officials and one civilian. more than 4000 demonstrators have been arrested since friday, according to khan's pti party. still ahead setting the record straight on africa rapper fuze odg joins me to discuss why a popular charity song may have raised millions in aid, but has actually cost the continent trillions. we'll be right back

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ethiopia particularly. and it was later rerecorded to help address other problems facing the continent but the heart of the message has always been using music and privilege to do good it occurs to me that somebody once said rock and roll will change the world. >> that's lovely. every little sale will help, i promise you god bless and have a happy christmas the band aid charitable trust was established to manage continued donations. >> since then including new earnings from music streaming platforms. the trust 2023 financial report states they've earned a total income of more than $223 million, but now, amid the release of a 40th anniversary mix, there's renewed scrutiny of the song's lyrics some of the imagery as well going back to those days, and critics have long believed it delivers a stereotypical, dehumanizing message about africa and its people and is doing more harm than good. bob

geldof, one of the original band aid organizers and chair of the charitable trust says in response, quote this little pop song has kept millions of people alive. why would band aid scrap feeding thousands of children dependent on us for a meal? when i'm joined by rapper fuze odg, who says the lyrics amplify stereotypes of africa as a continent of poverty, famine and disease, you'revited in the 30th anniversary song in 2014, fuze and this latest version you wouldn't have got involved in for the same reasons. can we just go back to the original song? yeah and what you thought of that in its time i think the original song and the intentions behind it were fantastic because they needed to be, you know an immediate action for a crisis that was happening at the time. >> and, you know i'm immensely grateful for the british public

for, you know, taking money out of their pocket to actually donate to help the crisis so definitely, it was a fantastic initiative. my perspective is that, you know 40 years later, we need to start looking at, you know, the results of what we've achieved over time. and see how i guess we can improve the model, because from my perspective, you know, it was great that we on surface level were able to help, you know, the people in need in ethiopia but over the period of time, um, if we still have to, you know, rely on aid in order to, you know, support countries in africa or for, you know, for a crisis. i think we need to start revising it because we need to start being self-sustainable as a continent. um, and another um, kind of issue that i had with the, with the original model was that they pick one crisis in one country and they paint the whole of africa as one image. and i think that's very detrimental to the whole of the continent. >> so the immediate impact was good. fantastic. it's become dated effectively. exactly give me a couple of examples of

lyrics you have an issue with. >> so there's a lyric that says no peace and joy in in africa this christmas and over christmas. now over the past 15 years, that's where everybody goes. everybody that i know goes to ghana for christmas in december. you have a great time for peace and joy to escape the cold, you know, so i in 2014, when he asked me to be a part of it, i made it very clear to him that that's untrue because i've already booked my flight to go to ghana and, um you know, i tried to say to him that there's a way that we can raise money to help the ebola crisis. at the time and still maintain the dignity of the people. and he was so adamant about changing the model. and i felt like, if you're trying to help someone, the best thing that you could do is actually start a dialog and not just keep it a monologue where you say, this is the help that you need. rather just let's have a conversation because i'm an african you're helping africans. so the best person to listen to are the people who are going through it. so i made the suggestion that what if we change the lyrics to this

because the caliber of artists that are on the song will be able to still gather the people and still raise the money that needs to be raised. but he refused and unfortunately, i had to say no because it wasn't an alignment with my mission of wanting to reposition africa as a place of investment, a place of tourism, a place of joy. um, so i had to say no fortunately. >> so it doesn't reflect modern africa is what you're saying. it's it's lyrics that might have been useful at the time. and if you want to rerelease it, you need to update it to reflect the current problem exactly. so he's looking he's being too historic. >> exactly. so yeah exactly. and that was my suggestion. and also the images that's associated with it. you know again on surface level it was fantastic. you know initiative to to help the people in crisis in ethiopia. but i gave an example of the ebola crisis when the ebola crisis happened, because of the image that's been put out there by initiatives like band aid and the western media. but africa kind of being this one image of a place of famine poverty and disease field. when the ebola

outbreak broke out in guinea, people started canceling their flights in kenya, which is like 6000km apart, which is even greater than the width of the whole of europe. but people still were canceling their flights, so that's how dangerous it is. you know, in the long run, how it affects the whole continent whilst, you know, trying to deal with one crisis in one country. >> what i'm interested in is your idea that it started doing more harm than good because bob geldof and all of those members of involved in the music would say specifically, we raised this money. it goes directly to solve african problems but you're saying that a side product of that is that africa isn't receiving money in other ways, so therefore it's actually reducing the amount of money that africans have. >> thank you very much for saying that. >> i'm not saying it. >> i'm just no, no, because you're echoing what? but just explain that exactly. so the my my point is yes we've raised in the short term. right. and it

was fantastic at the time, 40 years later what happened? the side effects of that was people refused to go to africa to go on holiday. they'd rather give us 2 pounds and move on with their lives, or when they could have given you 2000 or 3000. you know as they do in la, or they're doing ibiza and then africa would be able to solve its own problems. exactly. because through, you know, revenue from tourism, trade, investment will be able to be self-sustainable because then we'll be able to, you know the economy will be able to grow, you know, in a way where it's constructive for the people on the ground so therefore, if anything happens in the future, we'll be able to help ourselves. and not just that um, i feel like the consequences of it affecting our collective pride and identity really, uh, has been super detrimental to the, i guess, the progression of of of the of the diaspora and the african continent because once you love yourself as a person, you want to know everything about who you are and where you're from. but because we've

been so disconnected due to these kind of images, we've been disconnected from us, that we're disconnected from our problems there's so many issues in africa right now that the diasporans don't know about, because they're so disconnected due to the fact that we're not super proud of who we are due to what is linked with over the past ten years, the afrobeats industry has gone crazy, booming, and as a result of that, africans are now falling back in love with themselves and we're now actually understanding what's really happening on the ground so there's a lot more support for things that are happening on the ground than there was in 1984. so what i'm saying to him that, you know, there's a way to position africa as a place of opportunity because there's a whole proud nation, this whole proud, you know diaspora that you know, love their continent and want to do something about it. so even now the flow of funds going back into the continent is 90 billion compared to aid, which is 50 billion. so we want to help, you know, ourselves. so we just need to have that dialog to make it happen. >> do you think it's, um added to the problem of racism do i

think it's added to the it's bigger than. >> so i think the big the problem is bigger than band aid. let's let's be very real about it but the only reason why it's on band aid is because they announced a rerelease. so for me it's like, okay, cool, you're just feeding into the problem that we currently have. we're trying to change, you know, the a world view of how people see us. so as a result, we need to show a positive side, which is our mission. we've even launched an educational app called sonar that allows us to tell the history of africa and highlight africa's contribution to the world and i feel like, you know, this job that we're doing is going so well that i feel like this new rerelease is setting us back. >> fuze odg, thank you so much we'll be speaking to bob geldof later on the network. >> thank you for having me resolve your pet knows if a mess has really gone. >> if not, they may remark the spot resolve gets rid of pet messes better than the leading competitor destroying stains, neutralizing odors and

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