says it describes, quote, what many of us feel is happening to the world. a canadian british journalist and author named cory doctorow says he's the one who came up with the term and what was that term again? cory i have a somewhat notorious name for this that i coined. >> i call it in edification i'm a fan of the f word, so i'm not a fan of this word so i want to know if i say this word out loud, do i have to put $5 in the swear jar? >> is what i really want to know. is it? have we crossed that line? >> it's embedded with suffixes and prefixes. they're fine. >> i mean, it is supposed to be a family program. i will say that. so my apologies, i do. i do have a friend who consistently sends me pictures of her four year old daughter watching the show. so i'm sorry for that. i apologize. thanks to you guys for being here. this morning. thanks to all of you at home for joining us as well. i'm kasie hunt. don't go anywhere cnn news central starts right now

so the turkey may have to wait. >> mother nature threatening travel plans for millions of americans rushing to get to thanksgiving. >> an elect says he's going to slap huge tariffs on trade partners on his first day in office. is this a threat or a promise? one world leader says the fallout could be devastating and breaking overnight. president biden also pushing for medicare and medicaid now to cover weight loss drugs like wegovy for millions of americans i'm kate bolduan with john berman sara is out today. this is cnn news central this morning. >> holiday travel with a side of storm and blast of cold. millions of americans are setting out on the roads or skies for thanksgiving, but wintry weather could put a

wrinkle in travel plans you know what it is? putting that wrinkle in air traffic controllers shortages. add that in and travelers could be in for headaches before they even sit down to watch a parade, which we will be broadcasting live. by the way, as part of a first ever cnn special. so don't miss that. derek van dam is tracking the latest forecast for us. ryan young is on the ground in atlanta. ryan, let's go first to you. what are you seeing? i'm not going to turn around and look at you well guess what john. >> i've already has asked derek how the weather was going to shape up today because it was raining here in atlanta earlier, which might have slowed traffic down. to get started, if you look behind us. yes, we're known for the airport here in atlanta, but traffic through metro atlanta is always a big deal. and guess what somewhere somebody is drinking some coffee, getting ready to hit the road today. we know from triple a they expect 71.1 million travelers hit the roads and john, i know you're already asking how much more is that than last year. it's 1.3

more million drivers than last year. and in fact, the good news for those who are getting ready to hit the road, gas prices are down from last year. at this time. it's about an average of 307. and as we were talking to people yesterday, they felt that impact. they feel like, look, sometimes they can't afford thosemaybe to gra' some turkey time. we know we've been talking to triple a as well. they tell us this is one of those years. they want people to pay attention to the roads in front of them. take a listen. >> no cell phones, folks. you know, again, it's about having the focus on the road so everyone can get to their destination safely. we don't have to be looking at the screen and trying to drive because that navigation now also speaks to us as well, right? so it's about using all your senses, but making sure your focus is the focus of driving and of course, john, we have to get in your life. >> and kate as well. we want to show you the best travel times according to triple a today it's before 10 a.m. and then 1 to 7. and almost the same tomorrow. where before 10 a.m.

and then 1 to 5. but look, so many cars now are full of all these screens of course, kids with ipads got to make sure you charge those up before you get on the road so you don't hear mommy, how long before we get there these are all things people are considering as they hit the roads. we know traffic is going to be a beast, especially through the metro areas. and then on top of all that, we do have some slick ather ahead. so guys, you really don't have to get ready for this one in terms of getting that coffee hopefully we'll have a smooth sailing when it comes to driving on the roads and at our airports. as well. kate, back to you. >> all right. i'll take it ryan, instead of the screens, may i suggest meaningful conversation meaningful conversation always makes the rides go quickly. all right, derek, to you now, what is the forecast? what can we expect in terms of the weather? and if i can ask a personal question for the parade on thursday as the father of two children, i know meaningful conversation does not cut it so anyway, for the parade to answer your question, john, it's going to be wet and rainy. >> hate to be the bearer of bad

news, but that's the reality we're facing because of this series of storms that are moving through the country. ryan was just on the tail end of this cold front that's impacting the eastern seaboard right now there it is. and that trailed right into atlanta. that could cause some delays. but we do expect the conditions to clear up nicely for atlanta hartsfield jackson international airport. but new york all the way down to d.c.. not the same. the cold front is just approaching there. and that's going to bring some rainfall to them. there is some high elevation snowfall. northern new england. so the roadways there could be a bit on the slick side, but this is all the liquid variety, not frozen variety. in new york. so jfk to laguardia could see some knock on effects as we go through the course of the morning at the airports here, all the way down to logan international, you can see that the rain has moved south of the atlanta metro region. let me show you what's happening out west. this is the big weather maker that will impact us for thanksgiving day. i'll show you why in just one moment. snowfall mainly west of denver. international airport. but salt lake city seeing some impacts.

so is san francisco this is the storm system that i'm talking about on wednesday. this actually may be the key time for you to travel. if you're hitting the roads or the airways because you can see no travel concerns along the east coast. but look what happens a day later. roughly 12 hours, the storm explodes along the eastern seaboard this will be a major impact storm for the major east coast cities, but this is for thursday so perhaps get settled into grandma and grandpa's house before the storm sets in behind it. the coldest air of the season will knock on the lake effect snow machine behind it, and that's going to bring several inches, if not feet of snow downwind from the great lakes. this cold air could go all the way to the gulf coast. could see temperatures below freezing in some locations for the first half of next week. check out these daytime highs. and just for you john, here it is unfortunately, snoopy is going to be blowing around at macy's on thursday morning. bundle up. i'll know you'll be out there. >> i will be out there. it's a good day to sit inside by the fire and watch silly television

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has been the ongoing feud between president biden and texas governor greg abbott over the handling of the us-mexico border. >> but now, with donald trump in the white house, it's going to be a markedly different relationship. and one where the state of texas is now serving as a blueprint for trump's immigration plans. now we'll get a preview of what that's going to look like later today, when the incoming borders are tom homan joins abbott along the border to deliver remarks, and he gave a sense of what exactly he'll be saying in an interview with fox this morning we're now waiting to january 20th. >> we're already we're already planning what we're going to do to lock down the state of texas. congress needs to change the asylum laws, but i'm not counting on that to happen. so president trump's going to come in with executive orders like he did the first time president trump was a game changer with remain in mexico now the texas

governor had launched operation lone star in 2021, almost immediately after president biden took office. >> and as an affront to the biden administration that included the busses of migrants to democratic led cities blocking a part of the border to federal agents and those boys along the rio grande. now, all of that led to lawsuits by the justice department against the state of texas. but now this is going to be a white house, the trump white house, that's going to welcome these moves. sources tell me that the trump team is planning how states are expected to coordinate with federal law enforcement when it comes to border security, and they're using the state of texas to build that road map now, in addition to all of that donald trump is also weighing the texas border czar michael banks, to join his administration, potentially as commissioner of u.s. customs and border protection, so that alone gives you a sense of how different it's going to be under the incoming

administration. but again kate, the bottom line here is that a relationship that has been quite fraught over the last three years here at the white house between texas is about to evolve significantly, to be one where the white house embraces what texas is doing and expects the same of other states along the border. >> priscilla, great reporting on this, as always. thank you so much. coming up for us, millions of americans with obesity, obesity could soon be eligible to have expensive weight loss drugs like wegovy or ozempic covered by medicare or medicaid. the new move just announced today by the biden administration on this. and if you are afraid of heights, this is most definitely not for you friends. a new tourist attraction in china called the sky ladder looks like a party. it's a isa soares nearly 5000ft in the air watch cnn's coverage of thanksgiving parades around the country with special appearances by chef bobby flay t.i., andy grammer,

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have certain chronic conditions like diabetes. but with this change, it would include anyone with obesity, whether they have a diabetes diagnosis or not. they will get coverage under this proposal. and like you said, this would potentially impact millions of people out there. we know these medications come with a cost of about $1,000 a month without coverage. so this could save people a lot of money out of pocket. now, what's interesting here though, john, this proposal is coming towards the end of biden's term. so how quickly will this proposal be finalized? we have to wait to see it. could run up against january, which means to be finalized, it may have to rely on the trump administration to finalize it. so we could see politics come into play here because we don't know what the timeline is exactly. but we do know there are many patients out there who could potentially

be excited by this proposed rule. >> yeah, we say politics may come into play. rfk jr. mehmet oz these are the people who could have a major say in it after january 20th. we say millions of people. how many people are we talking who could be affected by this so it looks like this could help an estimated 3.4 million people with medicare to get coverage for these medications. >> this could potentially impact 4 million people with medicaid so these are the numbers that we could see when it comes to patients who could get coverage for these medications. and we know just in general obesity impacts about 40% of u.s. adults. so there are so many patients out there who could potentially benefit from these anti-obesity drugs. >> look, we brought up seth berenzweig wegovy. what about ozempic? >> it's interesting because ozempic is fda approved specifically for type two diabetes. with this new rule, rule i should say addresses are

anti-obesity medicationsetound e wegovy. so that's the difference here when we think about the different kind of drugs that are out there and popular at the moment. >> all right. this is something that definitely bears watching. we'll have to get comment from the transition team on all of this. jacqueline howard, thank you very much. all right. this morning, the new promise from president elect trump that could majorly increase the price of your cars, your furniture, your alcohol. stay tuned. and you might not see as many sales and deals this holiday season why some major retailers are being extra stingy this year cnn heroes on all star tribute meet and celebrate the honorees, then find out who will be hero of the year. >> plus, a special tribute to michael j fox cnn heroes, an all star tribute. sunday, december 8th at eight. >> you didn't get where you

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so all of that is going to be compiled. but what the justice department did yesterday is something for the history books, john. it is the end of the two federal criminal cases against donald trump, which were both filed against him last year in courts in d.c. and florida specifically. the reason is that you can't prosecute a president. that is what the justice department decided not only within the office of special counsel, but they also got the department to set some policy here. they they also say that the cases themselves, um the the cases themselves, didn't change, but the circumstances had here. so the government still backs up what they said in court in trying to bring these indictments against donald trump, trying to take him to trial. but now that he's going to be inaugurated, the president in january that is the circumstance that has changed, that makes it impossible to continue a case against him. special counsel jack smith wrote in the filing,

asking to dismiss the january 6th case. the department's position is that the constitution requires that this case be dismissed before the defendant is inaugurated and the judge signed off on it pretty quickly in the case was dismissed. >> the cases were dismissed without prejudice, which i know technically means they could be revived once trump leaves office. but but really john i can't predict the next 24 hours. let alone four years from now so. >> but this is an important legal concept because this entire thing that's happening here, donald trump, is cheering it. he's saying that i won, i persevered against all odds. these cases were junk. but actually what the department is doing here is they're setting out the course of how this would look like if something like this ever happens in the future. and those words dismissal without prejudice that's about highlighting that. it's only temporary where a president can't be charged with a crime. so judge

tanya chutkan, in the january sixth case, she wrote dismissal without prejudice is also consistent with the government's understanding that the immunity afforded to a sitting president is temporary expiring when they leave office. so all of this is about acknowledging you just can't have a sitting president facing a court proceeding like this. the other thing they did was dismiss an appeal. that's ongoing against donald trump in the 11th circuit federal court related to the classified documents case. bringing that back but the justice department wants to continue that appeal related to his two co-defendants there. >> yeah. i mean the thing is, he's got four years to figure out a way to get these cases dismissed with prejudice or maybe to pardon himself, but those are legal bridges, unknown legal bridges that have yet to be crossed. katelyn polantz, great to see you. thank you. kate. >> breaking overnight president-elect donald trump says he is ready to make good on a major campaign promise on day one in the white house. that promise being saying on social media he will impose a

massive level of tariffs on goods from two of america's closest allies mexico and canada. you see there he's saying 25%. as for china trump says he's going to slap beijing with an additional 10% tariff. tbd on what the total tariff toll will be for china there. the chinese embassy quickly responding, telling cnn quote, no one will win a trade war or a tariff war. cnn's matt egan is following this. this is important today and is going to be very important for weeks and months to come. setting aside the question, the political one of is donald trump serious here? what does this mean? >> well, kate, it means that the tariff train has officially left the station and it left early. >> right. there's still about eight weeks away from inauguration. and the president elect is already threatening to slap tariffs on friends and foe alike. day one tariffs 25% mexico and canada. additional 10% on china. i think all of this is another reminder that trump calls himself the tariff man for a reason. he is deadly serious about tariffs. he views

them as a negotiating tool, a magical tool that can solve almost any problem. and this is also another reminder of how trump's strategy on trade could backfire when it comes to the cost of living. because remember, these are taxes on u.s. imports. and even if this is just a negotiating ploy, it can cause prices to go up. it can cause chaos it can invite retaliation from canada, from mexico, from china. remember, canada is one of our biggest trading partners $300 billion of u.s. imports from canada last year alone we're talking about everything from oil and minals cent and wood. it's hard to see how big tariffs of 25% on canadian oil will help when it comes to gas prices, or 25% tariffs on cement and wood. how's that going to help with building houses and addressing the affordability crisis? same thing with mexico that's actually our largest source of goods. recently surpassed china

on that front we get a lot of agriculture 90% of avocados that are imported are from mexico. tomatoes as and then china. i mean, listen, china, we're talking about furniture and toys and sports equipment the timing here, kate, is noteworthy because just 24 hours ago, you and i were standing around this same table talking about how markets were celebrating trump's selection of scott bessent as treasury secretary and how maybe besson could kind of soften the edges around some of trump's policies but there's nothing subtle about what the president elect announced last night. another reminder that at the end of the day, trump alone is making these decisions. >> and that's the thing about tariffs. is the president alone can can make can, can have this. there was the cfo of walmart america's largest retailer, said just last week trump's tariffs will cause them to likely raise prices on some goods just is how many businesses are reacting to this with fear and concern. but you have new reporting about how companies are planning to try to work around this.

>> yeah absolutely. what we learned is that last administration, when trump was in power, a lot of companies, they tried to get basically a hall pass from the trump administration to get away from the tariffs to avoid the tariffs on china. and there's been a lot of concerns raised about what's known as the exclusion process to get avoid those those tariffs. a lot of concerns have been raised. now just 1 in 7 companies who asked for an exclusion from the u.s. trade representative were able to get an exclusion. only 1 in 7. and some businesses fear that the process is broken, that it was sort of open to potential political favoritism, that there was a lack of transparency. and some of this has been backed up by academic research that has found that if you had a company that their executives donated to republican candidates they had a better chance of getting a tariff exclusion, a 1 in 5 chance for firms that donated to republicans versus a 1 in 10

chance for firms whose executives backed democrats and all of this, of course, kate is going to come back into focus in the coming weeks. and months and years as companies try to navigate the latest trade war. >> well, 1 in 5 or 1 in 10. banking on that is not a smart business plan for these huge companies. right. and this is big numbers that we're talking about. >> so there's so much at stake here. >> thank you so much. great reporting as always john. >> all right. with us now pete. pete, former white house spokesperson and george w bush's administration and megan hayes democratic strategist and former white house director of message planning. so, pete, how will americans feel if prices go up on january 20th after. oh, like noon well, welcome to a four season reboot of words versus actions where donald trump says something. >> but doesn't necessarily follow through on what he says. there are plenty of examples of that during his first term. there are plenty of examples. also, john of his verbal threats forcing and compelling

action on the part of other parties particularly when it comes to foreign countries. they hear these threats and they genuflect to the bully pulpit and do as trump says. so i think the real question is what will happen in these next two months? what will mexico and canada do to try and stem the flow across the border? and what will china try to do to stop the trafficking of fentanyl? if they make meaningful moves, trump may back off on this. otherwise, we're all going to see price incru know, the canadian prime minister already called donald trump yesterday after this threat was made yeah, i mean but i don't understand why the american people are surprised. >> this is what the president elect said. he was going to do when he was running. and this is what is going to happen. we all know economists were saying during the campaign that his tariffs would increase $4,000 on working class people. so we are not surprised that this is going to happen. and this is going this will impact working

class people. but it's just unfortunate because i think there are other ways to get some of your your, you know, the border crisis under control without making threats to other countries so i'm not sure either of you banked on talking about wegovy and upbound this morning, but all of a sudden there is this political football that is being handed to the incoming trump administration on the issue of these wildly popular weight loss drugs, because the biden administration today is going to propose that medicare and medicaid cover them, which could mean savings of 100% for about 7 million people. >> i mean, that's a lot of people potentially impacted by this. it's very possible, if not probable, that the trump administration would have to agree with this proposal. and this is where it gets murky, because the person who could be secretary of hhs health and human services, which has a say here, is robert kennedy and it's not exactly clear that these drugs are something that he's particularly thrilled with. listen if we spent about

one fifth of that giving good food, three meals a day to every man, woman and child in our country, we could solve the obesity and diabetes epidemic overnight. so good food, he says, is the key to solving obesity, not these drugs. megan. so what do you think of this move? the biden administration is making and the challenge it poses to the incoming trump administration look, i think that the obesity crisis is a real thing as you know, rfk was saying, i think that also this is just not about these medications, specifically the the biden administration has been working to lower prescription drug costs across the board. >> they've done it for insulin and some other things that are really important to people. but we all know that if people are less obese, then other things are important too, right? like heart rate, the heart rate disease, or the rate of heart disease goes down, cholesterol goes down. so there are other things that are impacted here by making these more affordable to people. >> and pete just as a political matter though, if the trump administration has to approve this, it's not cheap, right? i mean, it would cost billions of

dollars or add billions of dollars in spending. and there is this new efficiency board with elon musk and vivek ramaswamy. although my sons note, one of the things that's least efficient, one of finding an efficiency board, is to appoint two people in charge of it. that aside, but do you think that this administration will want the extra savings possibly they'll want the extra savings but i'm actually i'm going to tie this back to the first topic. >> top exports from canada to the united states. what we import is medicine. so if trump does follow through on this tariff threat on canada, that in and of itself could impact the cost of prescription drugs on the american people. so you're going to have this balancing act and this tension between the tariffs and what the biden administration is proposing and then obviously, what rfk may want to do. yeah. is expensive. elon musk seems to want to cut costs how does

an administration this is going to be their issue at this point. and it's one of those things where it may seem as if they're taking something away that is in the process of being given to the american people the challenge that musk and vivek ramaswamy have in trying to cut their proposed $2 trillion from the budget is that there's not a lot of discretionary spending at their disposal to cut a lot of what we spend is mandatory spending it's interest on the debt it's social security. >> and here it is. it's medicare and medicaid so there's going to be a lot of difficult decisions that they need to make i think that ion d particularly these weight loss drugs, are going to be popular with the american people and lower prescription prices, particularly, are popular with seniors. and guess what seniors vote. so they're going to have to look at that very closely. >> look, i just think it's interesting what what happens the next whatever we are like 60 days between now and then, we're already seeing posturing

on all thehese things, whether t be the weight loss drug and making these tariffs. i mean, you have this statement from donald trump, a policy statement. now when he is president elect, basically calling on these other countries to act, do you think that they will try to do visibly do something before donald trump takes office on the 20th? >> i mean, that remains to be seen. i think, you know, it really depends. i think that there are things that they should be doing anyways. i think that there are things that we're going to need to do to get the borde trump was saying during when he was running. but it will be interesting to see how they act in the next 60 days. i'm not exactly sure that that you will see a noticeable difference in the next 60 days, but maybe they can come to an agreement. but i think that donald trump talks so favorably in his mind about tariffs in the election. i think that he will have to put some tariffs in place at some point in his presidency. >> all right. megan hayes great to see both of you have a wonderful thanksgiving. >> kate the israeli cabinet is set to vote today on a proposed 60 day ceasefire deal with the

lebanese militant group hezbollah. a source telling cnn the israeli prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, has already signed off on the deal, despite the rumored progress strikes do continue in beirut. the idf says it hit two hezbollah command centers belonging to the groups. they say executive council. cnn's salma abdelaziz is following the very latest for us. salma, what are you hearing about how close they really are to a ceasefire deal in this moment well, in fact, we actually just heard from lebanese officials as well when officials saying that they believe a ceasefire could come into place or could be announced in just 24 hours time. >> this is very welcome relief, of course, to the many on the ground who have been suffering in these past few weeks, as israel has really pummeled particularly areas in the south and the south of the capital, you have thousands that have been killed, over a million displaced in this conflict. now, again this israeli security cabinet meeting or this israeli cabinet meeting

will take place later today. so we'll have a final answer at that point. but if we go through what's in the deal just to give people an idea, it's potentially a 60 day ceasefire. so guns would fall silent. no fighting between hezbollah and israel for a period of 60 days. diplomats are hoping that that will allow them to lay the groundwork. this period of quiet would allow them to lay the groundwork for a lasting truce that would be based on actually what is an 18 year old un resolution un resolution 1701, which ended the conflict back in 2006 between israel and hezbollah and so us diplomats believe that reviving that resolution resolution 1701, using it as a blueprint during potentially a 60 day ceasefire that could bring the much needed quiet on that border and bring this conflict to a close. but it all falls. of course on that first step, not to get ahead of ourselves. the cabinet meeting taking place in a few hours time. we are listening

closely to find out what that decision is from prime minister netanyahu. >> absolutely. salma, thank you so much for bringing us the latest. we're going to keep very close to this one today. ahead for us, dictionary.com and it's word of the year. it's very cutesy very mindful. and one alaskan taking neighborly love to a whole new level. the unusual way one woman is getting turkeys to isolated members of her community this is the emirates premium economy seat economy.

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live coverage starts at eight on cnn democrats have been in a state of soul searching since donald trump's election victory. >> trying to pinpoint the exact reason kamala harris and her forward movement struggled to resonate with the american people. last night, speaking to john berman democratic congressman dan goldman offered one blunt assessment reacting to the special counsel dropping federal charges against donald trump. here's what goldman said is why voters did and didn't vote for trump i would argue that the american people did not vote donald trump in to subvert our democracy, to undermine our constitution. >> they voted, at least according to the exit polls, because there's an affordability crisis in this country. and they believed that donald trump would help the middle class. i have strong, strong reservations that he will do that. but that's what he was elected on so now, as

donald trump and the country prepare for a second, trump term, one prominent name is laying out a blueprint for how he thinks the democratic party can win. >> from here on out. joining us right now is reverend william barber, co-chair of the poor people's campaign one of the country's most persistent advocates for poor and working class americans. it's good to see you. thank you for coming back in this blueprint. in this blueprint, you say the winning equation is what you call fusion politics. how is that different from what other democrats like kamala harris have already tried to do well, i don't frame it so much of what kamala harris has tried to do or has not tried to do actually, she ran a tremendous campaign and had points of this, i think in our whole political system, we're missing something. >> it's a theological framework that also has political significance. it's called the stones that the builders rejected can be the chief cornerstones in building a new reality. who are the rejected moral fusion? says, you look at what unites people, not left and right democrat,

republican, but what unites us and one thing that we find is that in this country right now, we have 87 million poor and low wage people who have not, who do not who are potential voters, 30 million of them did not vote we did a study and asked why and the number one reason was no one talks to us, no one talks to us. and what connects them? for instance, the issue of living wages. there is not a state in this country, particularly battleground state where poor and low wage voters don't make up at least 40% of the electorate and yet many of them do not vote because they say nobody talks directly to us if we were to have a campaign around living wages, we're talking about over 40 million people who would be raised up out of poverty and low wages we've not had a conversation and not moved the minimum wage since 2009. the minimum wage is $7.25 an hour, a $2.13 an hour for

people working as waiters and waitresses. that is immoral and we need to talk about it in that sense, we have over 800 people that are dying a day from poverty and low wages. we need to have this conversation in our public discourse and speak to the people who feel like they are being rejected and oftentimes, lastly, our debates and our conversations, you think about it. we have debate after debate after debate, and you don't have nobody running for president gets asked this question. if you get elected, how will you address the 140 million poor and low wage people in this country? and what will you do specifically, not as a democrat or a republican, but as a moral agent to make their lives better? and how will you raise the living wages? how will you make sure people have health care? but framing it in a moral perspective, 350 000 people died during covid from the lack of health care covid essential workers how are we talking to those people who make up 40% of the electorate in battleground

states and talking about morality and politics honestly, reverend is quite a novel thing today. >> when you consider that, i think everyone would say morality has been so far from a central focus in politics for so long um, on that note you wrote this weekend something that caught my attention, which is that you wrote now two men who have never known hunger, hurt, or hard times say they are going to cut government when we most need it to lift people out of poverty and low wages. this speaks to the blueprint that you're laying out. i assume, of course, that you were talking about elon musk and vivek ramaswamy who are heading up trump's project to cut federal spending. musk has said that he would like to find and could find $2 trillion in savings why does their effort, as they describe it, to cut wasteful spending, concern you so much well, you know, that's a that's a cute way of saying we can find this spending all of this

overspending, they claim. >> but now we won't have to chase ghosts anymore. we're actually going to see and when the american people see what they're talking about cutting, that's when they will see the danger of it. if you cut and remove resources from the federal government how do you then address the issue of millions of people in this country who still do not have health care in a democracy where our moral call of the constitution is to establish justice and provide for the common defense and promote the general welfare how, how if you don't do all of this cutting, how are you going to raise the minimum wage? we have not done that. as i said since 2009, i want folks to hear this. that's 15 years. prices have gone up, work has gone up but wages have stayed the minimum wage has stayed at a rate that is less than what it should have been in the 1960s. if you raise the minimum wage, you would actually add 3300 and some odd billion dollars to the economy. it actually cost us more to

have child poverty. 51% of all the children in this country are poor and or low wealth. and what i'm arguing is we have to get away from looking at this as left and right or it's going to cost too much to fix these problems. the problem is how much is it costing us now to leave things as it are, as it is? how much does it cost us right now to have this many people without health care, this many people without living wages? and when you look at these issues across the board, poor and low wage people have a power but the number one reader of the study and they said the number one reason they don't vote is because nobody talks to them when they hear somebody talking about cutting government and destroying government that doesn't move them. but if they were to hear about how government will be used to lift them up and and we're talking, first of all about poor working people, and whether you're in alabama or appalachia, this is serious business about people's lives it's not just about politics

people are dying. 295 000 people a year. one study said poor poverty low wages. what we should do is not be cutting the government. but how do we use the government to speak to the issues of the most hurting people in this country who represent the biggest, largest possible swing vote in the country not about politics. >> it's more than politics. as you say, but it can also be everything to do with politics. when you talk about the impact, reverend william barber, thank you very much for coming in. thanks for your time, john. >> all right. this morning, dictionary.com has announced its 2024 word of the year. this is a hint see how i do my makeup for work? >> very demure very mindful so the word demure exploded in popularity. >> thanks to that post from tiktoker jules lebron see how i'm reading this book very demure. >> you see how i show up to work very demure, very mindful. >> straight hair, very demure

wearing a seatbelt very mindful so those people along with dunkin donuts, the white house, nasa all got in on the coveted demure action this morning, the worst possible tourist attraction for people afraid of heights 5000ft in the air, the sky ladder in china's hunan province stretches 550ft between two cliffs. >> you're supposed to walk across it carefully. the ladder is equipped with handrails, foot rests, tethers and cables. i suggest using them a pilot in alaska delivering on her annual thanksgiving promise for the last three years, esther sanderlin has delivered frozen turkeys to fellow alaskans who live off the road system. this is how she got the idea and i was visiting our newest neighbor and they were talking about splitting a squirrel three ways for dinner and how that didn't really go very far. >> and i just had a thought at that moment. you know what?

i'm gonna i'm gonna drop them a turkey for thanksgiving because i recently, um rebuilt my first airplane with my dad and so i could do that really easily this year, she's delivering 30 to 40 turkeys. >> she eventually hopes to turn this into a mission, into a nonprofit, and reach more people across alaska. it sounds wonderful, though i do have to say, when i heard turkey drop, it made me think of one of the best television episodes of all time, the wkrp in cincinnati turkey drop episode enjoy that's no parachutes yet it can't be skydivers. >> i can't tell just yet what they are, but oh my god, they're turkeys. oh can you get this oh, they're crashing to the earth right in front of our eyes. just went through the windshield of a parked car this is terrible he's running around, pushing each other oh my goodness. oh, the humanity people are running about. the turkeys are hitting the ground

like sacks of wet cement you are actually contractually obligated to show a clip from that episode whenever he used the word turkey drop. >> kate, how often do we use the word turkey drop, though? that's like, this is this may be a singular moment we should enjoy it together. >> like wet cement hitting wet bags of cement. thank you, j.b. let's go to this. now. if you mark it down, they will come. that is how one department store executive put it. this puts it this holiday season. but there are some early warning signs. they are currently bracing for a shopping slowdown. cnn's vanessa cave has been looking into this. she joins us now. and you say this could be the most normal holiday season. >> is that a good thing? >> can you believe it? can you believe it? yeah, we are expecting a record amount of shoppers over the holiday weekend and record spending. however, sales growth year to year is expected to be normal. so on average we have seen about 4.3% in sales growth from year to year, especially over the pandemic people were r