situation is difficult and it's so inspirational to me. >> i've been to all 50 states, as you said, over 200 food banks that includes alaska and puerto rico and every single place that i went, i saw people even in the middle of a global health pandemic rolling their sleeves up and helping their neighbors um, it gives me hope. it gives me optimism. and i'm also cautious in that optimism because i know that there are some big challenges that we're going to need to confront as a society. >> claire babineaux-fontenot from feeding america i really do mean it. you have a wonderful organization, and it's a type of group that we should all be looking to help however we can. so thank you for the work that you do. a new hour of cnn news central starts right now a record number of people

packing their bags for thanksgiving rush is on that is a live look right now. boston's logan airport, boston, of course, the home of the nba champion boston celtics. just one piece of trivia there. if you want to get there though, go now because the weather is about to become a major, major issue. the surprising new picks by donald trump to fill his administration rocking the health care world and an eagle eyed satellite hunting for methane leaks. the critical new tool orbiting the earth that could help fight climate change. sara is out kate is not. kate bolduan is here. i'm john berman, and this is cnn news center remember the old phrase, it's about the journey, not the destination. >> if that's the case, when it comes to the next few days, we

are in for quite a journey. the airports this week busy is an understatement. the busiest on record is actually more appropriate. 18 million americans are expected to fly this week and today the airports will be packed there is some good news for last-minute travelers, though the weather should not be your biggest headache. the forecast today. good the forecast tomorrow. not so much. a storm could bring a sight of snow for thanksgiving day, and more than one place. cnn's whitney wild is at chicago o'hare. derek van dam is tracking the forecast for us whitney, how is it looking there now? what are people telling you it is really picking up but for the most part, everybody is saying that this is very, very smooth. >> this is going to be an extremely busy weekend for chicago area airports. they're thinking kate, that there could be more than a million and a half people that come through o'hare and midway over the holiday weekend, they're thinking sunday is going to be the busiest day. they're thinking sunday is going to be 254,000 people through o'hare alone so that gives you a sense

of the volume here kate, as you mentioned, these are record numbers. there's going to be an 11% increase. this year over last year. many more people taking to the skies. but the number that matters, kate, is this very small number, just 19 cancellations throughout the u.s. that is an absolutely perfect thanksgiving travel situation. the holy grail of holiday travel. the other numbers that you want to see on a day like this, kate, look at these security numbers. look at this. ten minutes through tsa security five minutes through premier access, 15 minutes through economy security. kate when you have this many people pouring through o'hare, you can't get any better than those very brief security numbers. i asked a couple of folks out here, what are your tips for traveling this busy holiday season? here's what they said so far, so good. >> um, since we flew early we didn't get on our original flight, and so they canceled our whole flight. >> but united booked us really

fast and quickly and so, so far, so good. >> i feel like you should bring, um like, a lot of books because, like, out like, if you first traveling and you feel like, oh, it's going to be great. i'm not staying that long. i don't need, like things to entertain me. well most likely you're going to need something to entertain yourself. >> what are your travel tips to get through security smoothly you've got kids. what are the tips for other families follow my wife that guy's thinking. that is a good message for everybody this holiday weekend. listen to the spouse who is very obviously in control of the situation. the other piece of advice, even the most seasoned travelers make mistakes. just make sure you're taking a minute to look through the tsa rules and checklists because it happens to the best of us. we travel a lot in our business. even sometimes. i have to remind myself what the rules are. so just go through that tsa checklist. don't be that guy who's going through your bag holding everybody up because you brought a 16 ounce bottle of gatorade when you're

not supposed to. >> kate, don't be that guy. but weight cannot be lost. can we please go back to those children they were potentially the most eloquent, coolest travelers that we've ever come across in an airport they were adorable. >> they all had tips. they were like, look it's longer than you think. you know, you got to bring some books, be entertained, and then they said their favorite part of traveling, kate, was the snacks. isn't that everybody's favorite part? >> 100%. but also, i am just waiting for the parent on the side. like i will hand you candy if you don't say ipad and you say books instead to this nice tv lady so impressive i expect much more from them today please bring us more of your interview with those amazing travelers. stand by for me, derek. joining us now talk to us about talk to us about the weather and what those adorable kiddos need to be preparing for treats. >> they're always the perfect, you know convincing item there for a kid to be calm and enjoy

a long flight home to see grandma and grandpa, right? it's the tools that the parents have in their toolbox to to help things out. anything works right? so check this out. green means go on this map, we've overlaid the current radar with the airport delays. and this is what we like to see. i mean, this is just absolutely perfection. from west coast to east coast. there is a storm system though that is moving through the rockies and it's bringing considerable snow to i-70. so if you're hitting the stretch of roadway there just east of denver could get a bit dicey. but all in all, today is the day we've hit the jackpot. you've hit the lottery. if you've decided to listen to the weatherman and leave the day that you should, which being today. but tomorrow is going to be a completely different story. this storm system and all of its energy is going to kind of congeal over the next 12 to 24 hours. and explode in size. watch here it is now currently located over the southern plains and then as we head into the morning and afternoon hours of thanksgiving this storm becomes a bona fide winter storm

however, the devil's in the detail here. the rain will be located along the coastline. we know how these things pan out this time of year. it's the interior that will feel the snow in fact, there are winter storm watches there and i want to point out this cold front that extends all the way into the southeastern u.s. this system is going to bring the potential of some severe weather. so we need to be aware of this possibility today across mississippi and alabama. tomorrow into southeast georgia, there's the rain and snow accumulation. we could get 4 to 8in in the hudson valley and into some of the mountains across northern new england. so that would be the trickiest travel conditions. but that's not until tomorrow. so enjoy today. while it lasts. >> kate enjoy today guys. thank you so much because guess what john? it's all coming at you tomorrow. >> i know enjoy today while it lasts. he makes it all sound so fleeting it is all right. >> so is life. jb. >> i know president elect donald trump announcing new picks for his administration overnight. he is moving way more quickly to fill the administration. this time around, and he has plans to move way more quickly when he

takes office. and cnn has learned one reason why cnn's steve contorno has that reporting so why steve well, john, for starters, he is moving quickly because he is more comfortable with how washington works versus his first time in office. >> and he feels more emboldened by the electoral college victory and the size of it that he had just a few weeks ago. but there's other key factor at play here, and that is that donald trump is essentially going to be a lame duck from the moment he takes office he will be a one term president. and on top of that, they can only guarantee that they're going to have control of the house and the senate for the first two years that he is in office. so what i am hearing is that as fast as donald trump has maneuvered during this transition, you can expect that speed to continue from the moment he takes office in january. in fact, one longtime trump adviser and a lobbyist who is close to many of trump's cabinet picks,

brian ballard. he told me quote, everyone understands we have a two year window with a majority in the house and senate. who knows what happens after that. and if you are not running at breakneck speed, you shouldn't be part of this administration. and that speed continued yesterday with another flurry of new names added to his administration, including jamieson greer. he is going to be the u.s. trade representative for donald trump he is someone who is familiar with the role, having served as a chief of staff for that position in his last administration. and as we saw already yesterday, that job will be partially put him in charge of negotiating donald trump's for tat trade war that he is already launching with his threats for 25% tariffs on goods coming out of mexico and canada so that is a key role that donald trump filled last night. and one that will be very

important to this effort that he is engaging with as soon as he takes office. john. >> all right. steve contorno for us in west palm beach, steve. thank you for your reporting. kate. >> there are new charges for colorado dentist accused of poisoning and killing his wife poisoning her through her protein, shakes did he just try to have the detective investigating him killed? is now a question and israel's cease-fire with iran backed hezbollah is holding in lebanon. the other terrorist organization there, iran backed hamas in gaza, now says it will cooperate with any efforts for a truce in gaza. what does this all now mean for the region and striking gold? the incredible recovery of $1 million treasure stolen from a shipwreck watch cnn's coverage of thanksgiving parades around the country with special appearances by chef bobby flay. >> t andy grammer, and more john berman and erica hill, host cnn thanksgiving in america live coverage starts at

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brand new charges were filed solicitation to commit murder, another charge of murder, and our great producer in the denver area found out that it was because he was trying to solicit the murder of a detective investigating his own case so now he's got to get new counsel he's got another couple of serious charges. >> but you know, this just started last year because james craig, very successful dentist in the denver area. i mean, great practice. lots of patients. he and his wife angela had been married 23 years. they had six children. all of a sudden she doesn't feel well and she's in and out of hospitals. in march of last year, she just doesn't feel well. and she's finally to the point of being comatose and one of the managers of his dental practice realized they had just gotten a package of potassium cyanide at the office. and they don't use that in the dental practice. so even before angela passed a homicide investigation was begun and what they found

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point out that, you know you've done a really good thing when other people take credit for it. we are very proud of what we have done, and we look forward to passing off a better situation to the incoming team all right. >> with us now cnn military analyst, retired major general james spider marks, spider great to see you. easy question. what happens now yeah. >> what happens now that this ceasefire is most likely temporary? >> um there's a lot of green on that pool table between the signing of the deal and what the end state ultimately is going to look like. the good news, the good news is, as netanyahu indicated is that leadership infrastructure and ammunition stockpiles have been eliminated or reduced and the proximity of all of that to the border of of israel has now reached a state. what i would label as an irreducible minimum. look, there's always going to be some element of that that's there. and that's what we have right now. will it

grow from there? we would anticipate that it would. but this gives israel and it gives the region an opportunity to see what the next steps are going to look like. it's what we call your trading space for time. you've achieved some objectives. probably not everything you want, but you've given yourself time now to see what the next steps will look like. >> so you call it temporary. barak fareed was reporting just a short time ago that u.s. officials think that actually sustaining and maintaining the peace will be even harder than reaching it. my question is, what are the obstacles to maintaining that peace well, clearly, hezbollah still has a capacity. >> the the fundamental differences between hezbollah and what israel has been able to achieve will exist forever. the remnants are there and so you also have with a reduced leadership, this is the kind of the key thing with a reduced leadership of hezbollah. what they have now is individual pockets that are going to continue to pursue their objectives. so i would

anticipate that we're going to see missiles and rockets fired again by hezbollah not necessarily directed from above, but because of some individual element, indicates that they're going to maintain the fight. that's what routinely happens. the sustainment of a cease fire is incredibly difficult. >> so spider, in 2006, which was really the last go round between hezbollah and israel, i was in southern lebanon. and one of the amazing things was even in the midst of the fighting and bombing, you would look down the road and you would see un peacekeepers un peacekeepers who had been have been in lebanon since 1978. they were there then. they were there during this round of fighting. what role will these people play during this cease fire and this peace, however long it lasts well, without beating two editorial, let's not get into discussions about un peacekeepers. >> what they do what they should do and how they execute their tasks. having been a part of those formations before not

working directly within the un, but parallel and tangent to them, you see a lot of malfeasance that's ongoing um, yeah. paint me skeptical about the un being present, trying to avoid the missteps going forward look, the un was on literally stepping and operating on top of the hezbollah infrastructure that was underground. and what happened, as a matter of routine is little things would pop up and they would routinely report back to hezbollah and say something's happening here in lebanon, and you need to know about it. in other words, they're talking about hezbollah activities or maybe israeli penetrations that were taking place. and so there was an open exchange of information. look, let's, let's cease the conversation about the the the accuracy and the effectiveness of the un just saying. >> and finally spider, do you think from a military perspective, this this cease fire with hezbollah frees israel up in any way maybe to find a way to make peace in

gaza yes i would hope so. >> that with without the the volume of rockets and missiles that are being fired from lebanon into israel with the reduction of hamas in gaza, israel certainly has an opportunity. but bear in mind that all solutions all solutions in this current these current fights go through tehran so the center of gravity for israel has shifted to the leadership in tehran in terms of what that maximum pressure looks like, both diplomatic economic, military. that's where israel is going to focus their efforts spider. >> major general james spider marks, always great to see you have a wonderful thanksgiving with your family. appreciate you being with us this morning thank you. >> john. you as well. happy thanksgiving. >> all right. this morning cnn takes an exclusive look at how ukrainian soldiers on the front lines are adapting to russia's new advances. an incredible new

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gray, the democrat went ahead as they are counting votes. he is ahead now by 182 votes over the incumbent republican john duarte now republicans are going to control the house of representatives. but this is sort of one of the only pieces of good news that democrats have had in this election process. and it's still going on right now unclear whether or not gray, the democrat, will maintain this lead. they still have a few thousand votes more to count, but you know, weeks after the election when they're still counting, he just inched ahead there. so what could this all mean? because it actually has some pretty major implications. cnn senior data reporter and chief thanksgiving correspondent. we'll get to later, which actually is true harry enten is here. all right. harry talk to me about where the numbers are in the house. >> i mean, my my goodness gracious. yes. the republicans are going to control the house of representatives, but if all the current results hold up,

we're looking at a record small majority after the november's in the last 90 years. you have to go all the way back since the herbert hoover administration to find an even smaller majority after november elections we're talking about the republicans with 220 seats, democrats with 215. if the current house results hold and keep in mind that this will drop lower if stefanik, walsh or others like matt gaetz leave the congress, you talk to me. >> this is sort of the best case scenario for republicans, at least for the next few weeks or months. >> where could it go where could it go? it could shrink even even further. so let's say gaetz stefanik and walsh resigns. we could be looking at get this republicans at 217, the democrats at 215. and i went all the way back that look, this is this is crazy. this is crazy, right? because all it means is democrats at 215 plus one gop seat could take the entire thing because then they'd both sides would be at 216 seats. john one

republican vote for the first few weeks, maybe months of the administration could be enough to sink a measure. >> i mean how historically unprecedented is this you might have noticed in my last answer, i was so excited i nearly got ahead of myself, nearly got ahead of myself. >> how historically unprecedented is it? i love history so times just one majority member could sink a bill by voting with the minority in the last 100 years, plus this possibly 2025, with the likely resignations from the house. and that's it. it's literally the only time in the last 100 years assuming, of course, all members vote. so the bottom line is, look the results from the november elections weren't exactly good for democrats. but this is a shining light for them. they really did hold the republican majority down. and given the likely resignations that are coming, that house of representatives majority for the republicans that house majority is going to be record record small. >> just to be clear, that only holds until they fill the gaetz seats, which is safe. republican fill the seats safe. republican stefanik a matter for another time we'll talk

about what what could happen there. harriet great to see you. happy thanksgiving. happy thanksgiving to you as well, kate. >> thank you gentlemen. new this morning, the ceo of the company behind ikea furniture stores now is warning that president elect donald trump's planned tariffs will make it more difficult to keep its prices low. telling cnn this tariffs make it more difficult for us to maintain the low prices and be affordable for many people which in the end is our goal. and he's just the latest executive to publicly sound the alarm on what donald trump's tariffs will mean for consumers all over the united states. joining us right now is matt priest. he's the president of and ceo of footwear distributors and retailers of america a leading footwear industry trade group. one that represents dozens of companies that everyone knows, like nike dsw, crocs, under armor, walmart, to name a few. thanks for coming in, matt. you hear 25% tariff on all goods from mexico and canada and 10% on goods from china. and you think what i think, look, we've seen

this movie before. >> we've been paying duties since 1930, almost 100 years. kate and as your chief shoe correspondent, i will tell you that we know how these impact consumers. as costs go up at the border, we pass those costs on to our consumers that's just how it works in our society. and i can tell you that in any additional tariffs from the president elect will mean higher prices. and inflation. >> you i'd seen you say you said it's going to have a profound impact. talk to me. a lot of this can seem abstract for people. they hear tariff. they might not really know what it means. what they know is what the price of their shoe is. when they go to the store. if an if. talk to me about an average price of, i don't know, a nike sneaker today versus what it could look like in november 2025. if all of this goes in place. >> yeah so if you look at our duty structure, we pay upwards of almost 70% on kids shoes. that's just mind boggling. so

if you think about a kid's shoe making its way across the border, any time costs go up, whether it's for energy or labor or the tariffs that the u.s. government charges at the border those costs go up for the consumers it's an inevitable fact. and so we even went out and surveyed trump voters last week and asked them, how are you feeling about tariffs? and they came back and nearly 70% of trump supporters said that they would not support additional tariffs on things like kids shoes and so we want to work with the administration to figure out ways to tamp down on inflation. and we will tell the president elect and his team on day one. raising tariffs is not how you get that done. >> i want to get to the work with and what you do from here on out in a second, but i want to play for you a little bit of what president, the president elect said during the campaign. this he was talking specifically about car manufacturers but it applies more broadly. listen to this those plants are going to be built in the united states, and our people are going to man those plants

and if they don't agree with us, we'll put a tariff of approximately 100 to 200% on each car and they will be unsellable in the united states matt will tariffs force more shoes to be made in the united states the answer to that is simply no. >> it absolutely will not, because it's such a we bring in 2.5 billion pairs of shoes every single year. we make shoes in the u.s. but only about 25 million. so it's a drop in the bucket as to the total amount that's needed to meet the insatiable appetite for footwear that we have here in the united states. and so, you know, when we hear those kinds of statements, it may work for the auto industry. it may work for chips and for other high tech and aeronautics. those types of sectors of our economy but for footwear, it's not going to work. and even with the high tariffs in place for over almost 100 years, we've seen

those jobs move overseas. and so we're the poster child for an industry that that simply does not work. >> you said you want to work with the administration and you've got to right. but how do you work with the incoming administration on this? i'm having a hard time seeing there being a way that this is a win win for shoe companies. and trump and the administration, if he if they just simply don't back down on this threat yeah, you know it's a great question. >> and we think about that constantly. but we do know that if you look at survey after survey and poll after poll, the american people and those who voted for the president elect want him to work on inflation and he committed to fixing inflation. and so we say to ourselves, we know how to help the president elect accomplish that goal. and to tamp down on prices. and it starts with not making things more expensive as they come across the border particularly for industries that are not strategic to our national security interests and so our hope is that the president elect and his team will will take a more surgical

approach, even if they have these announcements at the outset that create some bluster, that the end result will be more surgical. and we want to help them do that bluster on the front end surgical, maybe in implementing, we will see because you will be on the front lines, matt. >> we'll check in with you again. thank you very much for coming on. i really appreciate it, john. >> thank you, kate, appreciate it. >> all right. this morning russia is reporting new casualties as a result from ukrainian strikes using those american made longer range missiles but ukraine is still struggling as the war nears its three year mark. and as cnn's nick paton walsh reports, one of the biggest threats hovers overhead they're running out of time, space and people night is killing time for drones. >> they've switched on the anti-drone device because of the threat around here this ukrainian drone unit of just two hunting, but also hunted. i think i hear a drone inside, inside inside. is that a

russian drone? is it one of theirs? they don't know but they have to carry on yes, yes dogs are not friends. their heat signals can give their launch spot away to russia's thermal cameras they close in on the target. a house jamming hits the signal but they fire anyway. russia advancing too fast here south of pokrovsk in the east to miss any chances the skyline speaks of how pokrovsk is in russia's crosshairs ukraine is short of manpower, but it is so bad here. they say they must rely on drones, not infantry, to slow a brazen russian daylight assault like this one. >> there are still some elie honig pinky webb zvezda to be caleb drone, ceo roberto tomo

doge has to zain asher the situation in a kyrylo budanov brianna keilar cargurus russell vought julian alcala watch how the first russian tank here is relentless. >> a trump presidency and possible peace talks loom. do they even have time for that? here is your chance to reach us before the maxim ayanna pressley arivaca do a team name momentum storm nonstop mazraa doge lee zeldin the moment talk here is abnormally negative with weeks of costly and chaotic retreat on film like these ukrainians hit when they're mistakenly told this building didn't have any russians in it this house has an encircled ukrainian drone unit without any infantry

to help fight advancing russians. so they send a drone to fly just 30m across the street one day. >> yeah some yeah. >> say some robots, but trevor timm vitrazza nada sasabe astana. jussie smollett robot domino. but so roscosmos evenity russia bolshoy andrew serwer ukraine. across the center of syria. >> russian troops savage in the assault this footage shows a local in orange who's shown russians where ukrainians were hiding. they are led out and shot while face down part

of a pattern of surrendering ukrainians executed, say prosecutors investigating this incident. a fortnight ago pokrovsk key site bombed, but so far spared russia's trademark devastation it is possible, some say moscow is moving so fast it thinks it will spend the winter here nick paton walsh cnn outside pokrovsk ukraine, and our thanks to nick for that story grim. >> all right. this morning, 28 snakes found at the scene of a car accident. why were they there? and were they licensed and a million dollar missing treasure has been recovered after being stolen from an 18th century shipwreck watch cnn's coverage of thanksgiving parades around the country with special appearances by chef bobby flay t.i., andy grammer and more.

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special tribute to michael j. fox cnn heroes, an all star tribute. sunday, december 8th at eight on cnn i'm elizabeth wagmeister in los angeles and this is cnn a new poll is out showing a majority of americans approve of how president elect donald trump is handling his transition it also gauges how americans are feeling about some of his cabinet picks. >> the cbs yougov poll found that 47% of people who are familiar with the candidates think that rfk jr. is a good choice to lead the department of health and human services. that's a better showing than pete hegseth for defense secretary. tulsi gabbard for director of national intelligence and marco rubio for secretary of state. and marco rubio, not seen as a controversial choice. the idea of such a vocal vaccine cynic leading the country's public health department has alarmed many in the medical community who spent their years, their careers in public health. it's also worries people who have

covered kennedy's anti-vax advocacy for years. joining us now is brian deer, an investigative reporter who has covered the anti-vaccine movement for more than three decades. he's also the author of the doctor who fooled the world science, deception, and the war on vaccines. brian thank you so much. you wrote an op ed in the new york times, and it was titled, i'll never forget what kennedy did during samoa's measles outbreak. and you wrote in there the consequences of his views and those in his orbit are not merely absurd, but tragic. what is it about the measles outbreak in samoa that you think is so important when it comes to rfk jr.? for people to consider well firstly, the important thing to understand is that year, 2019 was a measles year and there was a tremendous amount of measles around the world. >> and that was encouraged by mr. kennedy and his supporters at the time, who were trying to promote fear of vaccines with

suggestions that somehow american scientists weren't playing it straight. so there's there's that aspect to it. and the way the measles virus then got to samoa was by transition through new zealand, auckland, where there had been the worst measles outbreak in decades. the virus then got on a plane and got into the pacific islands of samoa, where it caused the deaths of 80 people overwhelmingly small children and the thing that really moved me was spending a great deal of time, like, i think almost a whole week of the time i was there simply talking to the parents of children who had died. and it was a deeply, deeply shocking experience because here was an example where you could see very, very clearly the fact that vaccination levels had fallen and the disease just exploited that opportunity. it was like a natural experiment, if you like, of what would happen if measles vaccination wasn't taking place in america

or anywhere else? >> rfk jr. insists that he's not anti-vaccine. on the day after the election, he said that if vaccines are working for someone that he was not going to take them away also, though, last year he said very clearly in a podcast, no vaccine is safe and effective in all of your reporting. do you have a handle on what rfk really believes here yes, i do. >> he he he always prefaces his remarks when he's speaking to his supporters by saying, i am not anti-vaccine i am not anti-vaccine. i am pro-vaccine. but there was one occasion where he was speaking in ohio at a farm farm which wasn't a meeting advertised to the general public. you had to get special permission to go where he said exactly what he means by a vaccine, and he said his three point criteria for a

vaccine would be you get one shot, you get lifetime immunity secondly, the side effects are 1 in 1,000,000. and the third thing is, he says herd immunity is 70%. in other words, 70% of the population is protected. so nobody ever gets the disease again. and then he finished those remarks to his supporters in private he said they came up with that product. i'd be happy to take a look at it. that's what robert kennedy thinks about vaccines. he sets criteria that could never be met by vaccine, any vaccine, and nobody has ever said that it has been and science doesn't support that. >> it's needed. when we're looking at herd immunity, i mean, just look at what the measles vaccine has done to measles. if if and the polio vaccine, i mean logic and history show that vaccines work. and since he has entered the donald trump's orbit, brian, rfk you've seen him trying to shift his focus from talking about vaccines to

talking and focusing on chronic diseases like obesity and and he's also made clear that he is not a fan of the now very popular weight loss drugs like ozempic, he told fox news that the drug maker was counting on the drug maker was counting on selling it to americans because we are so stupid and so addicted to drugs. also offering this as a solution. let me play this for you if we spent about one fifth of that giving good food, three meals, a day to every man, woman and child in our country, we could solve the obesity and diabetes epidemic overnight add it all together. brian, what do you think senators who are going to be vetting and considering his nomination? what should they be asking him, given your history and knowledge of his claims? >> i think people need to go back into the historical record and presumably the democrats

will find stuff from mr. kennedy's past which will expose really what he's all about. he's not a man who's campaigned against sugar or against smoking or against other things like alcohol, things that we know affect people's health. he's consistently been an anti-vaccine campaigner going back now for a long, long time, at least 20 years. he's been an anti-vax campaigner, and that's really what he's interested in. so any questions which really look deeply into his real views and his real activity and also the fact that he cannot be relied on to tell the truth, i've found time and again people coming forward and saying, well, i was talking to robert kennedy and he said this, and they come out with the most fantastic stuff, one, for example, was louis farrakhan who mr. kennedy formed an alliance with louis farrakhan of the nation of islam, took from his conversation with mr. kennedy that the cdc was biologically and genetically altering vaccines in order to kill black

and latino boys. he spoke with howard lutnick, the other week. um, and howard look, sorry howard lutnick said he'd, um, he'd spent 2.5 hours with mr. kennedy, and he came away with the idea again that that that children were being injured. the autism was linked to vaccines and the same old kennedy story. and these the information he puts out is simply not right. >> if you want to know much more. and the long and honest history of that fraudulent claim about a vaccine, a link between vaccines and autism, i suggest everyone read your book and look at your reporting over the decades. thank you so much, brian dear, really appreciate your time. thank you so much, john. >> all right. this morning, what a satellite can do for you. this one circles the earth about 15 times a day hunting for methane leaks that are warming the planet. cnn's chief climate correspondent, bill

weir is with us now. so it hunts them. it sees them. it videos them, and then it's about accountability and then it's about calling out countries and super polluters. >> what if we could see the source of climate change? would we act differently as people? well, that is the theory behind this particular experiment. >> this is what methane looks like with a special camera. >> this is 90% of natural gas that is marketed to you is methane, which is much more potent of a planet. cooking pollution 85 times more powerful than co2. if co2 is a blanket of average thickness methane or methane, as they say in england, is a blanket that's about as thick as lebron james is tall, much more potent much easier to see, and then capture. so the edf environmental defense fund launched this satellite last year. it goes around the earth every couple hours and spots exactly where these leaks are happening. >> and now we are finally getting the data on where these things are happening right now. and let me let me take you around the country a little bit, starting in appalachia, we talked a lot about pennsylvania

fracking. there it is leaking four times. the industry set rate. it turns out the satellite is finding 3 to 5 times more than even the environmental defense fund had predicted in uintah basin in utah just outside of salt lake city to the east. there 45 times what the industry says is happening there. that's a much smaller basin, so it doesn't produce a lot of oil and gas, but is leaking enormous amounts of methane. and then when you get to the permian basin, that is the beating heart of the texas oil patch. it goes into new mexico. they're between 9 and 15 times higher than the industry has admitted. the question now is what are these companies going to do about it? >> well, first of all, methane, man, the uk, they talk funny too. what is the trump administration's view on all this? >> well, if you take the early statements and the whole project 2025 thing, they have just sort of a sneering disdain for any regulation in this space. feeling emboldened, a lot of fracking companies are saying you can ignore this, but physics, you