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the holiday travel rush is on right now. >> millions of americans are heading to the airports and highways for a record thanksgiving travel season. >> we're tracking it all for you. plus, after months of full scale war and just hours after a cease fire kicked in thousands of displaced civilians return home in lebanon. >> but for many, home looks very different. >> and talk about a disturbing twist. >> a colorado dentist accused of murdering his wife with poisoned protein shakes is facing new charges. >> who he was allegedly targeting from behind bars. >> we are following these major developing stories and many more. all coming in right here to cnn news central thank you so much for joining us. >> this afternoon. i'm boris sanchez, alongside rahel solomon in the nation's capital. great to have you here. good to be here. yeah.

>> brianna has the rest of the week off she's getting to enjoy thanksgiving as so many other americans are too. are you ready for a record breaker forecast to be the busiest thanksgiving travel season ever? nearly 80 million people heading out for the holiday, most of them driving nearly 72 million people hitting the roads. >> and how about this lower gas prices are helping. triple a says that the national average is down to $3.07 a gallon, and some more good news for travelers. weather conditions seem to be improving. we've got a team of reporters standing by. we have cnn meteorologist elisa raffa. she is tracking the cold front that's coming in. but first, let's go to cnn's whitney wild. she's at o'hare airport in chicago whitney, i feel like o'hare is busy on a good day. how are things looking today for fliers you know, it comes and goes. >> so there are big crowds and then it sort of thins out. and then there are big crowds again. but the good news is that the wait times at security are pretty quick. >> so let me just walk you over here, because when you're

talking about travel numbers, these are the ones that matter right? tsa pre ten minutes premier access five minutes. economy 20 minutes. so even if you didn't get here super early before your flight you still are probably in very good shape when you consider the numbers here. 18 million people traveling over this holiday weekend. that's a 6% increase over last year. 1.5 million people at least coming through the chicago area. airports plus this good weather system. this is like the perfect combination for a very busy holiday travel weekend. when you look at the flightaware misery map, just 29 cancellations today across the united states. so you really can't ask for anything better over this very busy few days. looking ahead. looks like monday or excuse me, sunday is going to be the busiest day. 254,000 passengers coming through o'hare alone yesterday. guys, tsa processed 2.7 million people, mostly

everybody here is happy calm. i've seen couples holding hands, families smiling this is a very good scene here at o'hare. i talked to a couple people to get some of their tips for traveling with families. here's what they said so what are your tips? i mean, i've got four kids. you've got three. what are your tips for other moms and dads who are coming through the airport? this is a really busy travel season. what are your tips? >> uh good snacks. uh good shows um, and treats treats for good behavior. >> what are your travel tips for other kids? um i feel like you should bring, um like, a lot of books because, like, like, if you first traveling and you feel like, oh, it's going to be great. >> i'm not staying that long. i don't need, like things to entertain me. well most likely you're going to need something to entertain yourself. >> what's your favorite part of flying? um, the getting the food and stuff getting the snacks on the plane always a

treat oh, the snacks are way better on the plane. airport snacks, pretzels in the sky way better than regular pretzels. guys everybody knows that. i think the trick is to give kids something new every 5 to 7 minutes. keep them occupied because it can end up being a long trip. but fortunately again, part of that long trip is not the hold up in the crowds here at o'hare. so we are doing very, very well. back to you. >> good advice whitney, but also not just give the kids treats every 5 to 7 minutes. give the adults treats. yeah, yeah. >> it's important to focus on snacks and treats. >> yeah. whitney thank you. all right, let's turn now to elisa at the cnn weather center. elisa as whitney sort of alluded to there, it looks like conditions are improving ahead of thanksgiving. what can we expect to see in the days ahead? >> yeah, i think that today is going to be the best day for travel. >> we have a storm system developing, but it's not really packing its punch yet. >> you can see a lot of these green airplanes across the country. >> we still have some rain and snow that could be a problem on the roads from denver through

kansas city, saint louis and to cincinnati. >> but again, it's not packing its punch yet. >> it has dumped so much snow in colorado. >> steamboat is loving it. the ski resorts are really getting some of that good white stuff for the ski season and for the holiday weekend here, but if you look at again that storm developing, you've got i-70 here from denver through kansas to kansas city with some of that rain and snow that could be slick at times. and then it stretches all the way over towards cincinnati by the time we get to thanksgiving, where we think we'll find more of those problems because this storm will really start to pack a punch and look at the rain and snow that stretches from the northeast down to the southeast. and cold air really comes in behind it, too, that by thursday, we could be looking at some major impacts across new england as we really start to see some snow in parts of interior new england and some heavy rain at times, as well thursday looks like to be the biggest headache if you're doing any last minute traveling. so here's that same storm again. it really starts to flourish going into thursday. look at all of that

snow again. parts of interior new england upstate new york, vermont new hampshire. the rain stretches down through new york city philadelphia, pretty wet parades going into thursday morning and then stretches down to atlanta. then all that cold air pumps, that lake effect snow machine will have some problems in the great lakes through the weekend because the snow doesn't stop. so at the airports again today mostly. all right. but then we really start to find problems on the east coast going into thursday. could have some problems in d.c. new york in the morning and then really pumping up into new england as we go into the afternoon. as that snow cranks and it cranks. we're talking feet all weekend off the great lakes. >> yeah, they will be thankful for today elisa raffa thank you. all right right now the fbi says that it is aware of multiple bomb threats and swatting incidents targeting members of donald trump's incoming administration. cnn's steve contorno in west palm beach for us near mar-a-lago steve, what are you hearing? what are you learning well helen, boris, so far we have confirmed one person involved

in donald trump's administration was the target of these bomb threats. >> slash swatting incidents. and that is un ambassador nominee elise stefanik. the congresswoman from new york we do know, though, that the trump campaign said it was several people involved in his incoming cabinet and new administration who were the subject of these threats. and as you said, we have reached out to law enforcement and the fbi for further comment. so far, they have confirmed only that they are investigating several incidents, but have not specified what other individuals were targeted. the trump campaign or excuse me, the trump transition. in a statement saying, quote president trump and the transition are focused on doing the work of uniting our nation by ensuring a safe and prosperous future with president trump as our example. dangerous acts of intimidation and violence will not deter us, and i should point out that unfortunately, these types of

threats have become increasingly common. targeting politicians in recent years. in fact, several of donald trump's perceived political enemies have been the on the receiving end of bomb threats and swatting attacks, such as some of the people involved in the legal cases against him and others who had testified in cases about his attempts to overthrow the election. so it has traversed both sides of the political spectrum obviously, it's also a dangerous situation to have someone calling the police, saying that there's a police activity or some sort of suspicious, suspicious activity at a residence and have them show up with their guns drawn. and so that is why the fbi is taking these sorts of threats very carefully. >> yeah, sadly, no shortage of threats over the last few years. and as you noted, steve, they come in a bipartisan fashion. you do have some new reporting steve, on the trump transition and why the president elect is moving so quickly to fill some key roles in his incoming administration. what are you learning well

aides and allies to trump say that he is clearly more emboldened this time around because of the size of his electoral college victory. >> and he's also more confident because he has experience under his belt. he knows how washington works this time, but he is also acutely aware of the time frame that he has to act. and that's not just because he is going to be a one term president, but also because of the narrow window that they know they will have a majority in both the house and the senate. and that explains the speed at which he is putting together this cabinet, with the hope that many of these individuals will be confirmed before he even takes office, or at least by day one, but also so that he can hit the ground running and will be will be governing with the same speed and intensity that we've seen from him so far in this transition, which is light years ahead of the transition, eight years ago when by this point he had only nominated for cabinet members. now he has his entire cabinet

already picked out boris and rahel. >> yeah. and 2016, they essentially started from scratch and threw out all the plans they had made right up until he won. steve contorno thank you so much for the update from west palm beach florida. let's discuss the trump transition with peter hamby, a founding partner of puck news and host of snapchat's good luck america. also with us, brian morgenstern. he was the white house deputy communications director in the first trump administration. thank you both for being with us. peter, first to you steve, was clarifying excuse me i hate it when that happens. steve was clarifying that trump is ready to hit the ground running on day one. one of the things that the president elect has talked about was getting tariffs put on mexico on canada, threatening also to expand tariffs that are already in place on china. how much of that do you think are actual plans that trump has to install on day one? and how much of that is the beginning of an

open negotiation that he plans with these nations i think ideologically, boris this is i mean, the plan has been out there the entire time. >> americans voted for donald trump while he was openly saying, i'm going to enact tariffs on china and other nations now, do most voters understand the details of how tariffs work? what they are, how they're implemented, how it might come back on them in the economy? some do, some don't, most probably don't but i don't think this is something that's like tucked into page 215 of project 2025. now the details of how he's going to implement it remain to be seen, but it does feel like he's moving very quickly and assembling a team of advisers and appointees who are very much saying they're going to enact tariffs. trump himself said it obviously, but trump says a lot. the question is, who are his people? he appointed jamieson greer as his u.s. trade representative

yesterday. he worked with robert lighthizer on the tariffs in the first trump administration scott bessent hedge fund guy market friendly. but also is you know, saying he's going to go along with this tariff idea it is going to have to be worked out. what i do find interesting boris and i talked to steve bannon about this yesterday, who's not making policy in the white house. of course but he is sort of represent the id of manga, comics, manga comics, if you will. he basically said that tariffs can be a carrot and a stick against countries like mexico when it comes to figuring out how to deal with deportations and other countries in central america. so that's a detail i hadn't really heard before that trump might be flexible with different countries and using tariffs as a stick as it relates to other policy agenda items that the trump administration wants to carry out. >> brian, your thoughts? i mean, sticking with tariffs. i mean, you have worked in the prior trump administration. we just talked about scott bessent for treasury secretary when that was announced, you saw the

markets applaud. he was seen as a moderate choice, someone who would be a steady hand based on your experience, how much do you think trump will be relying on his economic picks when it comes to policy tariffs or otherwise? >> very much so. i mean, i worked at the treasury department for three years in the first trump administration was secretary mnuchin, where we dealt with not only tariffs but revising trade deals with implementing the tax cuts, tax cuts and jobs act sanctions. >> and, you know, other very high priority issues for president trump. so the economic team is key. his focus during the campaign was empowering the american workforce, bringing jobs back here bringing economic activity back to our shores. and tariffs can be very helpful in those goals. in addition to the economic issues bringing manufacturing back, he's also discussed, you know, helping to

secure the border and stemming the flow of fentanyl and other things so i think the speed with which tariffs are enacted will in part be dictated on the results that he's seeing in his negotiations with other countries, just as one example, during the china trade deal negotiations, if you recall, he would put out a notice saying unless we make progress on this issue say, soybean exports for example, then i will be increasing the tariffs by this much, you know, over this period of time, every 30 days or 60 days and so on to try to put some pressure on our negotiating partners to really make progress so that we can get these issues issues resolved for the american people. so he's used them very effectively in the past. it hasn't been very inflationary in the past, at least at the end of his administration. recall, inflation was very low. so he was using them effectively to achieve policy goals. in the first term. so the american people know what that's like. and i think they voted for him again because it was effective and it made their

lives better. so that's what i'll look for is what timelines he lays out, what the policy goals are that he lays out and what progress are we making with our negotiating partners and yet, brian, you pointed out soybeans during the trump administration. >> they had to essentially subsidize a large part of soybean farming in this country because so many farmers suffered as a result of tariffs that had been put on by other nations on things like soybeans do. you don't have any concerns about this tariff promise creating a tariff war and then coming to bite consumers and farmers producers in the behind well, it's about winning the tariff war. >> so to speak, and getting those negotiations moving expeditiously, getting the results that we need. we ended up making a very favorable deal. i think the biden administration wasn't very good at enforcing it. but president trump's credible threats, i

think, really add weight to these things so that we'll get the results that we need and you know, he was willing to follow through and help those farmers make it through. i think he would do the same thing. he also had an an exception or exclusion process where door with the administration to talk to them about what their experience is. we don't want to harm american companies. the whole point of this is to empower american workforce, the american workforce and american companies so that they'll be better off tomorrow than they are today so that's what it's all about. and but i think his credible threats will really make sure that our negotiating partners are active and that we can get the results we need very quickly. >> peter, i want to circle back to something you mentioned, just a short moment ago. you said that you this interview with steve bannon, it was wide ranging. you talked about elon musk. you talked about trump 2.0. what stood out the most to you based on that conversation you know, it's interesting, again, as i mentioned bannon is

you know, off and on within trump's circle of advisers he's not necessarily going to be, you know, in the u.s. >> trade office with jamieson greer making these decisions. but he does represent he's sort of like a rasputin figure. and you can kind of follow you can follow what he says to certain outcomes that that trump talks about and, and carries out as president. but, you know, i think one thing that jumped out was he is very adamant about recess appointments being a possibility. he was upset about the matt gaetz pick being basically derailed in the u.s. senate. steve bannon firmly believes that john thune the new senate majority leader, is a puppet and a creation of mitch mcconnell and if he said with robert f. kennedy jr., for example, senate republicans are queasy about confirming him, he firmly believes and says it is constitutionally possible that donald trump could adjourn the

senate and make whatever appointment he wants. so he very much wants to, as he said, hit washington with, quote, muzzle velocity. he wants to throw punches after the first trump term. they didn't get certain things done. he says. now there's a i mentioned there's a whole team being assembled. you know, it's very clear that trump is coming into this with intentionality versus the first time when it felt like an accidental presidency. so bannon is basically saying, hit him, hit him now. hit him while we're strong, we have a mandate that's his words, not mine. um so that's basically the whole that's not a surprise coming from steve bannon. there's a lot of bluster with him sometimes uh, one thing he did say, though, that was interesting rachel, is he said there can't be too many, quote, crazies running around the white house this time. i'll leave it to the viewers to decide whether bannon is one of those people or not. but there are a lot of pros coming into this administration. unlike last time when it felt like trump just hired the fry cook at burger king, uh, and bannon

says that's a good thing, that trump is going to get things done this time versus last time. >> it doesn't hurt anybody to have some good fries every now and then. peter hamby, brian morgenstern, appreciate you both thanks so much. just make sure you drink some tea before you eat the fries and then go on tv and have to cough them up almost like i did. thank you both so much. your co-anchor will save you work mcdonald's to be the president. this guy, of course of course. thank you both. and happy thanksgiving. appreciate you. >> you too. thanks. >> thanksgiving. thank you. >> still ahead. this hour on cnn news central. hours into the cease fire between israel and iran, backed hezbollah. it seems to be holding. and now biden administration officials are hoping it could be a potential game changer in a renewed push for a deal in gaza. we'll take you live to the region for the latest. stay with us who from tried and true to try something new so many ways to

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holding. >> hours after both sides accepted the deal, it calls for a 60 day pause in fighting during which hezbollah militants are expected to retreat from israel's border. while israeli forces will withdraw from lebanese territory thousands displaced by the conflict have now begun. >> the journey back home to southern lebanon with many returning to find their villages unrecognizable damaged or destroyed. after months of full scale war, the israeli military is warning lebanese citizens to stay put for now because its troops are still operating in some of those areas. let's take you now live to northern israel with cnn's jeremy diamond. jeremy, what's next as the cease fire seems to be holding well a lot, boris i mean, this ceasefire, the initial 60 days of it are going to involve a lot of implementation by both parties and monitoring by the international community, as well as the lebanese military that's because right now, on day one of this ceasefire, the israeli military is still very much in southern lebanon. >> and over the course of the

next 60 days, they will indeed withdraw from those frontline villages which they have been occupying for the better part of the last two months. hezbollah is also meant to withdraw from some 25 miles of territory north of the israeli lebanon border, and we're also monitoring, as the lebanese military is itself moving south into those positions previously held by the israeli military areas where hezbollah had previously built strongholds. and they will play a larger role going forward in monitoring any ceasefire violations. but the real question is how quickly will people return to their homes and will this cease fire? indeed be enduring in southern lebanon? we've already watched as many lebanese civilians have begun to try and return to their homes, or certainly at least beginning to make the journey back south. scenes of jubilation playing out across southern lebanon and also in the southern suburbs of beirut in northern israel, where we were today along the lebanese

border, it was a very different situation with people very skeptical of this agreement, believing that this deal will not actually make northern israel safer. and many of them still waiting to see whether or not the cease fire holds before they decide to return to their homes. some 60,000 israeli civilians have been displaced from their homes in northern israel. boris rahel. >> jeremy diamond live for us from northern israel. thank you so much, jeremy. let's dig deeper on this with former nato supreme allied commander, retired general wesley clark. general, thank you so much for sharing part of your afternoon with us. israel has vowed that if hezbollah breaches this agreement, they would respond immediately. obviously, this truce was sort of designed around some of the same parameters that we saw that 2006 ceasefire between hezbollah and israel that ultimately fractured. do you expect that this truce is going to hold for the 60 days? >> really depends on what comes next with iran. iran is in a

weakened position right now, and iran is the guiding hand of hezbollah. >> so if iran is is pushed if it really falters in its hegemonic aspirations, maybe hezbollah will become just a political party in lebanon. and and stay 20 miles north of the israeli border. but right now, uh based on 50 years of experience what's going to happen is hezbollah is coming back. it will infiltrate slowly, step by step. uh, the lebanese army won't be effective in stopping it because hezbollah is a powerful force in lebanon. and the lebanese army doesn't want a civil war with with hezbollah. uh un will be there. they'll report on some things and ultimately, israeli forces will have to go back in and clean it up. that's the pattern so what's going to change that

pattern? only the fact that iran says enough's enough. uh we're not going to continue to push on israel. we'll accept the existence of israel. and and let's have peace in the region. that's that's what this is going to take to make this cease fire a viable over a period of months and years. >> we've seen zero indication thus far from tehran that they are poised to take a new track in that direction diplomatically, with with israel. i'm curious given your view of iran's influence on this, how you read the comments yesterday from prime minister netanyahu, who said that now that war with hezbollah is coming to at least a pause, part of his focus is going to be on iran. and though he refused to get into detail and expand on it, in his words, he did say that he would do anything to prevent iran from having a nuclear weapon. what does that tell you? not only about the future of israeli, iranian relations, but how the

incoming trump administration might influence that relationship i think that incoming trump administration is going to be cautious, honestly. >> i mean, the pattern of president trump over his previous time in office was he was not reckless. he does not want to start wars. he likes trade. he likes deals. but not wars. at least that's been the pattern thus far. on the other hand iran is weak now its air defense has been largely destroyed. russia is obviously going to go in there and try to fix it up. so there's a window of vulnerability here in iran that wasn't present in the past. iran's moving forward on its uranium enrichment. it probably can have a nuclear weapon within weeks. uh, and so i think that i think prime minister netanyahu, in an ambiguous way, is saying he's going to take action against iran, and he wants u.s. support to do that that action has to be more than simply taking out

some of the technology that was done in the last raid. it means really stopping the nuclear program and and perhaps forcing a new government in in iran through the act of destruction. i hear from iranians all the time who tell me the government's very not well thought of, uh, the economy is faltering. they want to get these ayatollahs out. they're basically a pro-western population that's been held in repression. that's the story you get now, whether it's a true and complete is of course, it's not possible to know. you have to be a little careful on this but i think i think prime minister netanyahu sees this as a critical window of opportunity to deal with a lasting serious threat to the survival of israel. and i think he's going to look for a way to take that opportunity, either in the coming weeks or

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part of it. now i'm here with my dear friend marshall, the fire dog from paw patrol, and nickelodeon. and the bottom line is this we got 17 giant balloons, 22 floats. we have a whole slew of other balloons, and it's a day like this that makes an adult like myself into a child again. of course, my girlfriend might argue that i'm a child all the time. anyway harry, is there concern about the weather tomorrow? >> because there's all this talk of rain along the eastern seaboard. what is it going to look like where you are i dare say it is going to be quite dreary in the skies, but the smiles will be on the faces you know, boris, my uncle neil sedaka, a very well known singer songwriter from the 1970s, wrote a song called laughter in the rain and i dare say that there will be laughter in the rain. >> i will be out there with my anemometer. i'll be taking the wind speeds. i'll be taking the temperatures. i'm going to go back to my weather camp days back when i was a teenager and

even if it's raining, which is what we expect, the good news is it's probably not going to be that windy. so my dear friends my dear balloons will in fact be flying in the air despite the fact that we will in fact have cloudy skies and likely some rain. >> all right, harry we know as a journalist you're you're impartial, you're neutral but i got to ask, is there a balloon that is your favorite? are you allowed to to have a have a preference there oh, i think i'm allowed to have a favorite. >> i can't have favorites in politics, but when it comes to balloons, i absolutely do have a favorite. and the bottom line is this perhaps it shouldn't be so surprising to you that i'm hanging out with my favorite marshal i love dogs every single dog i see in the street, i go up and i try and pet it if the owner allows me to. now i'm not going to get too close to marshal right here but the bottom line is he is the biggest dog that i know and i have a lot of heart for him. they do a lot of important work at paw patrol, and so clearly you have to respect the work of

a of a service animal like marshal. >> i frown at you saying that you're impartial, harry, given that you're wearing a buffalo bills jacket on live television, revealing your biases harry enten carve out harry enten we will check back in with you, because that was quite a tease. >> the turkey costume is coming apparently in a later hour so we will stay tuned. you stay tuned. harry enten. thank you. we will be right back giving giving that's possible through the power of del i with intel. >> so those who receive can find the joy of giving back the has trump's back and is better than ever to the rescue. >> this year. >> the year the 60th anniversary has firetruck with car and motorcycle comes with lights, sounds and a huge

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supporter he's a progressive, a fan of bernie and aoc. the democratic party even invited him to the dnc in august. one thing we've been hearing for weeks now is that the left needs a joe rogan. >> yeah i don't think that the democratic party can podcast itself out of this issue. >> joe rogan endorsed bernie sanders in 2020. maybe they should do an autopsy on why he left the party yeah, i've heard you say when it comes to stuff that guys like you seek, that stuff out online, whether it's watching a streamer whether it's watching guys talking about working out and fitness. >> you say that the right wing just dominates that space. >> yeah. why? >> well, i think that's why i started on twitch. right? i know for a fact that the video game space is like people who consume this, this culture, people who are a part of this culture are not all right wing. i wanted to showcase the people that are like, no, you can be a progressive person. you can be

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