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story, often a very personal one, often a story of hardship, separation difficult times. >> but when somebody cooks for you, they are saying something. they are telling you something about themselves. where they come from, who they are, what makes them happy so these are the queen a whole hell of a lot of people in queens. the people who make the borough what it is, who make it such a great place to eat and explore, are very far from the places they once called home but queens is home now
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world i felt the rain getting colder sha la la la la sha la la la la la sha la la la la sha la la la la la la hey. >> miami it's a big place bigger and more multifaceted than it's given credit for. >> miami. where are you at we tend, over the years to focus on miami's. how shall i put this party zone
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nights, deco architecture. the manufactured dreams of many television shows made real but across the causeway, a few miles down the way, there are other worlds, older ones i think it's safe to say better ones way out west 20 miles from the airport, tucked in yet another strip mall as islas canarias. and you go there because well, you need coffee and because cuba respect and because michelle bernstein is there is
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this miami? it was a long time getting here. >> you need a car in miami. >> and yes this is like the heart of miami. >> michelle is one of miami's most iconic influential chefs. born and bred here. so when people say where did you grow up? what do you say out miami? where were miami? >> this is way out west. i mean, you can't get much further west than this. >> what's beyond here swamp land. >> oh, not much body disposal. yeah, well you can say that i can't. this restaurant, we would actually come here for the seafood, and it would be elegant. >> well, you'd have the waiters and the little bolero jacket type things, right yeah. >> and there are still some cuban places in miami that still have that this is how you drink coffee in miami. the real places give you the milk first and then the coffee. >> now, what are they called again? those tiny little chicklets. that's coladas. >> and that's a big cup with little cups. >> it's basically like the coffee version, the caffeine version of a one hitter. i mean, you basically. so i'd
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have one of those and then at the next place i'd have another. and i basically, you know, get increasingly jangly as i head towards work or whatever my final destination is i grew up on the colada at four. >> i had my first, i think colada. we all give our babies coffee. they put their finger in it to taste it, and they'll grow up loving coffee. >> that's good so this is a non-judgmental land. miami. >> you know what it is? you can pretty much get away with almost anything. it's good coffee i'm so glad you like it a lot of people don't like it. really well because they think it's too sweet and many of you watching who are dimly aware of miami and this sandwich thing they call a cubano that you may or may not have had before, you're thinking yes, a cubano sandwich but you'd be wrong. >> this is not a cubano sandwich. strictly speaking. this, my friends is a medianoche close a cousin like a cubano. it's got roast pork, ham, swiss cheese, pickles, and
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a little mustard. and like a cubano, it's pressed until hot and runny inside but you see the bread? >> it's darker and it's sweeter. so you have a real contrast with the salty pickles. and the pork and the bread. you see how juicy that is? that's the telling of a good cuban sandwich. >> you know what me off? when people try to improve on this? >> a lot of people try to improve on it. you can't fancify a cuban sandwich. sorry how is it? >> is it yummy? it's good a lot of thought is given to the structure of the sandwich. >> you know, it's all about the layers. yeah, much of everything. yeah so this is the perfect breakfast, right it's good. >> right? >> yeah and i always go for the salty, never the sweet. >> i don't care about sweet things. if i had to give up one course of the meal, dessert in a hot second, of course, like cheese over dessert any day. oh, yeah. >> yeah actually, i would rather a steak over dessert, but maybe that's because my mother's from argentina. >> i don't know oh mi samuel luiz soulku
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look deep enough, ask the right questions. you can get a whole history of miami from one man. this man, matt klein you're going to have to remember you're speaking to a 100 year old man. >> i know you look good. raise your voice a little bit. you look good. >> if i look that good when i'm 60, i'll be happy. >> you know the amazing thing about being 100 is a year ago, i was 99. nobody paid attention to me. didn't care. i became 100. my god, matt klein, the owner, proprietor and regular bartender at mac's club deuce, turned 100 years old this year yes, 100. >> he's still here. the cigarette smoke and dark, dank atmosphere clearly good for a guy who's seen it all. >> that's 73 years ago. fort benning georgia. i was in the second armored division mac came to miami in 1945 from new york's lower east side by way of the battle of normandy. i
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came here because i was wounded. the warm weather was much better for me. >> there were a lot of g.i.s here during the war right the war made miami beach for the simple reason that people were stationed here, and all of a sudden they saw a world that they didn't believe during world war two, miami saw a massive influx of military personnel hotels which had seen a sharp drop in business, made a deal with the government to house troops at the empty resorts. >> they told their parents about it, their parents came down, sons came down, they opened businesses here and it was basically jewish at the time. and that's how it started. >> by the fall of 1942, more than 78,000 troops were living in 300 hotels in miami and miami beach how long have you been running the deuce? >> i took over 1964. half of my life. i spent here. miami beach has turned over at least six
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times since i've been here all that neon is miami vice. they put it in here yeah. this was their favorite bar. >> yeah, but it makes sense to come on. >> well, it still, it was very flattering. the same as how flattering it is to have you here. >> i love this place i mean, i love it. it's my favorite bar in miami to many more they're everyday people doing extraordinary things in their communities and in our world who should be the 2024 cnn hero of the year? >> it's your chance to weigh in. meet this year's honorees, and discover the life changing work they're doing then cast up to ten votes a day, every day visit cnn heroes dot com. >> think you've been harmed by products containing talc you may have the right to vote on
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has the dreamers, the visionaries, crooks and con men who built miami envision many different kinds of paradise a new jerusalem in the seemingly infinitely expanding real estate just fill in where there's water and you've got property or as in coral gables, build a new venice, complete with the glamorous hollywood fantasy architecture and grand canals gondolas to ferry the new seekers to their palazzos in the sun but the dream was as expandable as the space where there was water, there was now magically
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terra sort of firma and in the 80s, where there was decline a vacuum, suddenly there was a new and vibrant economy, one that raised all boats, filled miami with new buildings, shiny cars, swanky nightclubs floods of cash and a new reputation for murder and criminality to go with it cocaine say what you will. >> cocaine altered the skyline of miami forever it made for better or worse, miami. sexy again. going back to the very beginning. was miami always a criminal enterprise but i mean that in a good way. outlaw culture is a very deep part of american culture. >> but carl hiaasen says, you know, in florida we don't produce or manufacture anything but oranges. >> and handguns. there is no
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indigenous industry. we sell sunshine, we sell you a dream. only jobs. we have are in hospitality and restaurants, real estate and real estate. it's all to sell the dream to the next people in 1981, the fbi called miami the most violent city in america. >> the drug industry brought in an estimated 7 to $12 billion a year. and that's of 1981 money. that is a lot of trickle down one of the most successful documentaries in the history of film is cocaine cowboys, which tells that story. a film made by these guys, alfred spellman and billy corben. so things were in decline. cocaine sort of say saved the city. >> well you could say so. >> are you gonna get in trouble, or are you gonna get in trouble for it yes. but, you know, by 1981, you had a you had a murder rate. you had 635 homicides here, 25% of those bodies had automatic weapons,
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bullets in them. >> right we talk about the uncomfortable reality of where a lot of modern miami came from over something. you just have to hit hard when in miami in season stone crabs federal reserve branch in miami had a $5 billion cash surplus, mostly 50s and hundred dollar bills, all of which had trace elements of cocaine on them. >> and the guys who were in cocaine trafficking in the 70s and 80s who got busted and went to prison, got out and are now big medicare fraudsters he's whispering because they're probably here somewhere so where's the money now? >> how's business in general? in miami? and where's that business coming from? >> well remarkably, the rebound from the great recession. i mean, people thought it would take almost a decade for all the condo inventory to get absorbed and what seemed to happen almost overnight by 2010, 2011, things had turned
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around. here we're in the middle of another huge boom. so who's buying it's wealthy foreigners. a lot of flight capital from overseas, from latin and south america russians, russians. >> if it's money looted from another country, do we care? trickle down boys, trickle down. >> it has propped up miami once again with another inflated bubble and the question is, how long will it last there's history and there's the more immediate needs of the present i need food presently, and perhaps some fine bourbon. >> and when i need good food in a city not my own more and more these days i call somebody who, if they weren't good in enough things already has become something of an expert on good food around the world. every time i check instagram, you're
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eating with one of my culinary heroes. you've eaten at gyro. yes, you inspired that so he seems to like you a lot better than me um, amir khalib thompson, known to most as questlove. you've been to this place before? >> i live at this place. >> really? >> yes yardbird quickly became a miami favorite, serving over-the-top southern classics to well-heeled bon vivant like well, us. the old joke was that james brown was the hardest working man in show business. you make him look lazy. let's review okay, bandleader producer a teacher. yeah. oh dj yeah, and we're counting. >> i have technically, i have 16 jobs right now deviled eggs with fresh dill and trout roe will be so over next year. >> but right now, i want like, ten more delicious fried green tomatoes with pork belly is the perfect thing for a guy who's looking to squeeze into a size 28 speedo tomorrow and hit the beach. how often
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are you in miami? >> 3 to 5 times a year. >> what makes the miami sound different than the detroit sound or philadelphia sound? the new york sound, whatever you know what? >> you can't say something specific like, well, philadelphia had orchestral strings in their arrangement whereas, you know stax records had organ in theirs. but i do consider the sound of miami to be the beginning of really great dance music. >> what's called 77 elvis pancakes chocolate chip pancakes, bourbon maple sirup, banana compote and peanut butter. even if you're not the king, you'll want to die on the toilet like he did after this carbo load. we're really doing the elvis experience, right? i should be eating a fistful of percodan with that. just a little yardbirds signature fried chicken comes with chilled, spiced watermelon and cheddar cheese waffles. here they brine the chicken for a day, 27 hours to be exact, in a spicy bath that includes cayenne and black pepper garlic
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and onion tender inside and perfectly crispy on the outside. to me, i like waffles and i like chicken, but i don't understand waffles and chicken together. >> you still don't understand. >> no, i mean, look, i understand people deeply love them and i do like waffles. and i do love fried chicken. i just put them on separate plates and i'm okay. >> you don't want your food integrated shrimp and grits. >> a southern classic made with florida shrimp, virginia ham and south carolina stoneground grits complete the other subject. i was reading your book is that curtis mayfield? >> you have bad associations with? whenever i hear curtis mayfield's freddie's dead, right? just as a kid that particular chord structure always frightened aqualung, jethro tull i whipped into a murderous rage right away. >> even now, even now, i'm angry that that band ever existed. i hate that whole
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>> who got here first? who other than, say, some early native american tribes and spaniards caribbean blacks, most of whom were bahamian bahamians, figured heavily in the early development of south florida, which began in earnest with the construction of railroads in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. by this guy, henry morrison flagler, the industrialist and tycoon largely credited with being the father of modern florida flagler's dream was the florida east coast railway, which would run from jacksonville to key west, connecting the ports of miami to the rail system of the rest of the united states creating along its route new towns new cities, new edens, where america's rising middle class could frolic and play. he also agreed to lay the foundation
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for a city on both sides of the miami river as more and more whites moved in, segregation took hold and much of the bahamian community was forced into black neighborhoods like overtown and liberty city. so if you're looking for old miami original miami, you're looking to a great extent for black miami run, rabbit. >> run was these days liberty city is mostly ignored by developers but back in the day, it was the epicenter of the black community. >> a lot has happened since then
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always, always, always always always always always going to be a piece of pancake. >> smoked sausage what do you need? well, eggs and egg and cheese what are you. >> yeah. what do you usually eat? >> oh, man. the ball fish and grits. see, that's a bahamian dish. your parents were a jamaican and bahamian? yes. my mother was a bahamian. my dad was jamaican today i'm having fish and grits at mlk restaurant with this guy luther campbell. >> a lot of good cooking tradition in the family. >> oh, yeah. one night we had rice and peas. the other night we had peas and rice also known as uncle luke, or perhaps luke skywalker. >> at various times luther is something of a musical political and legal legend credited with pioneering what would be called miami bass maybe you know him from such hits as two live crew's me so horny and do wah diddy, or the groundbreaking fair use supreme court case campbell versus
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acuff-rose music how did he end up different growing up in miami than you would and growing up in la or new york? >> people would say, oh y'all southern people, y'all are south. y'all bama or whatever they want to call us but in all actuality, we're an island town. i mean, miami was made up of bahamians that really built the city of miami so now you have a lot of different cultures caribbean, south american, very, very very, very, very different. yeah how is that that mix? >> how has that impacted the music? >> oh, it's everything in the music. it's everything. i mean, when people think about me they always say, oh, this guy made this booty shaking music. you know, everybody is dancing, everybody is dancing in a sexual way. you know, jamaicans they'll wine, you know, the girls will stand up on you. and you're pretty. i'm pretty sure you know about that. where the girls stand up on you and they put their butt
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on you and start whining you know, i have seen this on television it's no different than a lap dance. yeah come on. >> you either accomplishments. >> you ran for office? yeah. about 70% residents of miami speak spanish at home. uh enormous african american afro-caribbean community how come the state keeps electing conservative white guys? >> conservative white guys, they play their popular pastors. don't say nothing. don't energize your people so you have a whole quiet community. you didn't get them excited about voting. >> it's the opposite of get out the vote program. it's a don't bother to vote. >> it's don't bother to vote. you take the governor's election. you know african americans voted at 20%. if we would have voted at 50%, charlie crist would have won the governor's race right you were selling miami to somebody what's the best thing about miami best weather yeah.
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>> how do you handle the cold if you have to tour or something, you got to spend a week or two weeks in new york or detroit or chicago. i mean my mindset is i don't have to deal with this every day. >> i'm going back to sunshine. so when i got that on my mind, you know, i can go into any city, i can go into a blizzard i know i'm going out. y'all staying this is really good back inland, another world of flavors. >> little haiti, just in case miami didn't have enough tasty stuff from elsewhere. the bam market is a grocery store with a four seat cafe of sorts tucked away in the back, and they serve some of the dishes that make me happiest jerk chicken. who doesn't love that curried goat roti and this this cow foot soup. the real deal two flavors and textures some next level stuff that looks, by the way, unbelievable. look at that. >> just that jelly. oh, that's so good
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what's the best thing about miami the mix of cultures that we've got what's the worst that you know what really me off? i walk on the street and i say hi to people because that's kind of like how i am, right? and i don't get a hi back a lot here to what do you attribute this the transient part of it. people don't feel rooted. they're all from south america, central america. their whole plan is to come here, do what they can to send their family money to buy the homes of their dreams, and then go back and live in them, which is great i probably do the same thing if i were to think about coming to florida to live, what would seem attractive to me and i mean this absolutely find some place on the beach and descend into, you know, my liver spotted crocodile skin. >> you know, late era george hamilton phase. and you know, walk up and down with my metal
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detector with you know, shorts up to here. i mean, that would be me. but what i find people who who go to live that dream after a few years they don't go to the beach, ask me when the last time i went to the beaches. when is the last time you went to the beach? >> about a year and a half ago. >> what the is up with that? >> we're working if you weren't working, do you think you'd be at the beach more often? my dream is to have a house on the beach. i don't know why i never go but i love it and i always say i will never live in south florida if i didn't live near water and i live near water, and i do leave my doors open a lot and i get the breeze, but i don't go to the beach. i barely even go in my swimming pool but i know it's there. >> okay i'm rahel solomon in new york and this is cnn hey, with priceline vip family, you can unlock deals five times faster.
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>> standing here in the rain. trying to wash away my sins baby gone and left me i don't think she's coming back before miami. >> bass before the miami sound machine. there was a miami sound. so i'm begging you. >> rain, rain rain keep on raining. >> the music, the original miami sound. we're talking about came from this man willie clark. and this place. what was this space originally? >> well, this was a little restaurant, smaller than this, and we were on the other side with the record shop now it looks like a nondescript barbecue joint. >> but back in 1963, it was the home of deep city records wake up in the morning try to find my willie clark and his business partner, johnny pearsall started deep city recording and promoting local
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talent out of johnny's record shop. the label became a showcase for artists like betty wright and helene smith, frank williams and the rocketeers, johnny killens and the dynamites. everything that you've ever credited for, for either producing or writing it is a very, very long list and an amazing list that's about. >> it's about 1200, 1200 songs. it just flows, you know, i'm like, what you might call a song mechanic you bring it to me, i'll help you fix it. >> willie and his writing partner, clarence blowfly reid, wrote such classics as clean up woman, rocking chair and willing and able, deep city was miami's answer to motown a unique sound in 50 years, 100 years from now, if you were to do an internet search and you punch in the miami sound, your name is going to come up right away. as principal creator of the miami sound what were the distinctive features of the music you were making um, that
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separated it from motown philadelphia, new york the culture was a mixture of bahamian jamaican and then some people who have come down from georgia and alabama. >> but that that bahamian influence was dominant, right. we would have bands like the junkanoo band and they would march from overtown all the way to liberty city and back in a big parade. and so this influence of that, the dancing and the moving and the marching, i would say that was that was the main difference. >> and you were teaching school there were a lot of this. >> yeah, i was teaching school. i walk in the front door of the school look around, put my sign in and walk out of the back door and go straight to the studio. but you know the principal knew what i was doing. yeah, i did most of the deep city music using that technique
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if only i could fly i would take to the air. >> are you still out there? so your songs are still, still being played? yeah, still being sampled yeah. which is good, right? i mean, that's that's great. >> if it weren't for the samples, i don't know what i would do the part of the record industry that kept us alive was your collectors must go crazy for them. >> the maniac collectors in in europe and and japan. >> if i had known back then, if john and i had known how hot we were there, i guess we would still be over there. and big as motown or bigger this is an island, isn't it? >> really? it is kind of an island. >> i think it's worse than the island darling. >> i'm willing to forget about our past darling, i'm able to
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what is this neighborhood some people call it doral. some people call it doral. suela, which is a petite venezuela. and yeah, you're way west and you'll pretty much hear everybody speaking spanish. there's almost no english spoken. >> most people in miami speak spanish at home a lot. >> over half. yeah even if they're not latin. >> right because you can't really get a job if you're in the service industry, especially you have to speak spanish meat on meat is something of a venezuelan specialty, and this one has got, what a beef patty, ham, egg six varieties of sauces crispy matchstick potatoes and cheese. >> it's big. big. i tells you you got to demolish it in stages like you're imploding a casino or like a hyena grabbing an antelope on the hoof. you try and tunnel through the soft parts first. this is a sort of an engineering challenge, a
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larger mouth, possibly. i mean i'm going to start crying like you get that thing all right, i'm going in. good god yes or no it's delicious but it's a little much right? there's no way this thing is holding together to the last bite. >> all right? i can't even get the whole thing oh, nicola, this is open to 4 a.m., so there's definitely a time of day when that seems like a perfectly reasonable idea. you drink too much. this will pretty much take care of everything that ever ailed you long a refuge for people from all over the caribbean basin and latin america, miami was also an inviting place for americans who just wanted to get off the grid live differently, make their own rules. >> if you've ever read the excellent travis mcgee novels
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of john d macdonald, you'll remember travis the mystery solving boat bum who lived on a houseboat in miami. the busted flush people used to live like that less and less today when my wife passed away a few years ago i was living in a condo and didn't want to do that anymore. now i'm. i'm on this piece of iron bob de azevedo aka cap'n bob, however, is still here and still living on his boat in the miami river. we sit out here and we look like we're enjoying ourselves, but it's really hard work. >> you know, just sitting here looking pretty it's not for everybody. >> so but yeah it's a good life i've had many friends over the years who live on boats and work on boats, but these were just degenerate wind addicts you know, this is more of a lifestyle choice for you. >> it is. >> it's got a machine shop on
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(diver yells) (shark roars) - whoa. (driver gasps) (car tires screech) (pedestrian gasps) (both panting) (gentle breeze) - [announcer] eyes forward. don't drive distracted. is cnn, the world's news network miami's the kind of place you say that could never be me and then it is. >> so you've been here how many years now? >> 15 years. >> 15 years. you were a floridian? yeah. when i was
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young, this man was a role model. an ideal, a roadmap for bad behavior. his music, it turned out, was the soundtrack for most of my life. still is james osterberg of muskegon, michigan known still all over the world as iggy pop you grew up in michigan you lived in new york for a long period of time, from michigan to london. >> i went from london to hollywood, which was rough. hollywood to berlin which was great. back to london and then new york. from 79 to 99. >> was it a conceivable option at any point early on to say, you know, i could live in florida? >> yeah. it wasn't for me. i was hustling hustling in the big city. it just kind of happened by chance. i had a shady friend who owned a condo here and uh, i thought, well
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this is a nice little trashy hang. you could just pull up to the beach anytime you wanted and look out and see the end of complications and anybody could do that. and it was safe and free. and i thought, that's a this is beautiful so we're eating healthy today. yeah what do you like here? >> i wouldn't have thought back then in my dorm room that all those years later, i'd be eating healthy with iggy pop barbecue shrimp for the godfather of punk. i get wild and crazy with some roast pork a little white wine. ah, only tilt towards the debauches of previous lives. i well remember the first stooges album coming out. the context of the time. these. this was, what,
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69 69th august? in a lot of ways, as far as looking after my health, your music early on was a negative example. >> i hear you and i'm looking at my own life and career. >> i'm pretty much known for traveling around the world and recklessly drinking and eating to excess. yeah, sure. what does it say about us that we are now sitting in a healthy restaurant? i just came from the gym and we're in florida. >> listen, if you just flamed out you're in. you know, you're in such voluminous and undistinguished company and then all your works will flame out quicker with you what's a perfect day in miami it's a clear morning. hot, hot and humid. no moderate or any of that crap. no hot, hot humid. the sun comes up and a hazy tropical orange orb and
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you're not working. you're not out of schedule and you have no meetings, but you have somebody fun to spend the time with and then you would go to the beach when the sun isn't right overhead yet because the beach faces east, the sun sparkles on the water and the sparkle is very nice so positive you're the template for the rock star meaning other rock stars sort of look to you to figure out how should i behave along with that look, even at its worst even if you're broke, you're a guy who had various points in life, has pretty much one way or the other, been able to have a lot of things and ordinary people would never have. >> you've had many, many adventures i know, given that what thrills you the nicest
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stuff right now, it's very embarrassing, but it's really embarrassing being loved and and actually appreciating the people that are giving that to me i don't see any birds at all here today it's so quiet is this the reward phase of your life, or is it just dumb luck? >> it has been mostly i think, a reward phase for stuff i did up till the age of 30. stuff you had to do on instinct and not on intelligence yeah, i think you deserve it.
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>> but when i look at my own life, you know, i'm actually i'm ambivalent. i mean, i'm still not so sure. >> you know, i'm still curious. you seem like a curious person. >> it's my only virtue there. >> you go. all right. curious is a good thing to be. you know, that seems to pay some, uh unexpected dividends. i am the passenger and i ride, and i ride i ride through the city backsides. >> i see the stars come out in the sky. so let's ride and ride and ride and ride and i guess that's what it comes down to all of it led here. >> i write a book i get a tv show, i live my dreams. i meet my hero, two old men on a beach. i sing la la la la la la la la
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