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and bowl games. >> speaking of frank run a slant to the bowl of chips. bobby buttonhook to the salsa. >> what are you going to do, coach prime? >> don't question your coach man. >> i'm elizabeth wagmeister in los angeles, and this is cnn president elect donald trump takes his opening seizing on president biden's about-face decision to pardon his son hunter biden. >> the incoming president now appears more than ready to exercise his own pardon powers. >> plus the supreme court is getting ready to hear arguments in one of its most anticipated cases. at issue transgender care for minors. experts say the judge's decision could impact health care for decades and an update on the woman who snuck on board a delta flight from new york to paris. officials say that she's now
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had to be removed from a second flight. we're following these major developing stories and many more. all coming in right here to cnn news central president elect donald trump is slamming president biden's decision to reverse course and pardon his son, hunter. >> hunter was due to be sentenced in both of the federal cases against him in just a couple of weeks but now that will no longer happen. the pardon also means that hunter can't be prosecuted for any other possible federal crimes that he may have committed during a ten year period. biden's decision comes as trump works to fill some remaining key positions in his second administration, with loyalists including kash patel, who trump says he plans on choosing to be his next fbi director. let's take you now live to west palm beach, florida, not far from trump's mar-a-lago estate, with cnn's kristen holmes. kristen, take us behind what trump is saying about this hunter biden
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pardon and his decision to tap patel to lead the fbi yeah. >> so let's start with the pardon. unsurprisingly, donald trump is seizing on this one of the things that he posted on truth social after we heard from the transition team overall that said that these were political witch hunts, that it was a miscarriage of justice. this is what donald trump posted. he said does the pardon given by joe to hunter include the six hostages who have now been imprisoned for years? such an abuse and miscarriage of justice? obviously january 6th prisoners are not there in jail because they are hostages, but because they have been prosecuted for their behavior and for their actions on january 6th. but one thing to keep in mind here, it is clear that donald trump tends to use joe biden's pardoning of his son as part of a catalyst for what he intends to do when he's in office. one thing to note, donald trump has not been shy about the fact that he plans to pardon these people who participated in january 6th. the big question, of course, is how he chooses to do it. is this a blanket overall pardoning for anyone involved or is this a kind of
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cherry picking of people who maybe participated or were nonviolent? we really don't have an idea. and boris, i've talked to the transition team. i've talked to a number of sources who have been involved in these conversations. they don't seem to have a full idea yet, but one of the things donald trump promised over and over again to a large swath of people, to family members, to the people who are still in jail for their actions on january 6th, was that one of the first things he was going to do was pardon them? obviously, here he is using this opportunity to say that essentially that's going to be an exchange of some sort because of the fact that joe biden pardoned hunter. but to be clear, he was already saying he was going to do this and kristen back to kash patel why did trump leaned on him to lead the fbi it looks a lot like the reason he landed on matt gaetz originally to lead the justice department, because he is a firebrand because he is a bomb thrower, because he believes that he is going to follow through on some
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of the things that he that donald trump himself has said he wants to do at the fbi, which is essentially gut the entire fbi. we were told that in the last week it had come down to two people. kash patel being one of them, the other one being the attorney general of missouri andrew bailey, who we know has been up for multiple jobs within the administration and when it came down to their actual meetings donald trump just wasn't impressed by andrew bailey. that was what a number of sources told us. we also know that patel had the backing of some of donald trump's staunchest loyal supporters, as well as some of the family members. but this, of course, sets up a very controversial time on capitol hill to see whether or not kash patel who is someone who himself is yes, a firebrand, but also not well received on both sides of the aisle, can actually get confirmed. that's going to be the big question. we haven't seen him up on capitol hill yet obviously he was just nominated over the weekend and christopher wray hasn't even been fired however, we also know that it's probably going to be an uphill battle for kash patel.
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>> the confirmation process to watch, no doubt. kristen holmes live in west palm beach. thanks so much brianna. >> president biden announced the pardon of his son, hunter, one day after president-elect trump shared that he would be nominating patel to serve as fbi director, even though that position isn't technically open. fbi director served ten year terms, something that congress did in an attempt to establish the director as an independent official above political influence and the term of trump's very own appointee from his first term, christopher wray, doesn't expire until 2027. cnn's senior justice correspondent evan perez is with us now on this. talk to us a little bit more about who kash patel is. >> well, kash patel has become very, very vocal, very influential in trump's circle. and he first got to the attention of of the former president back when he helped lead an investigation of the russia investigation. he's the one who came up with some of the talking points, frankly, that that fueled what trump has been saying about that earlier
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investigation. and he ended up working positions at the national security council eventually working at the defense department but one of the things that really has gotten trump's attention is the fact that he has been prone to using some of the inflammatory language that trump, frankly approves of, right. he says that he wants to find conspirators who were behind the rigged 2020 election. he's played a role for instance, in the classified documents case where he was he fought a subpoena from jack smith and eventually got a grant of limited immunity in order to provide some testimony and we also know that back in before trump left office in in 2020, 2021, trump tried to install him at the fbi as a deputy director and bill barr fought against it. we have a quote from bill barr at the time. he said, i categorically oppose making patel deputy fbi director. i told mark meadows it would happen over my dead
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body. and so that's the context under which patel has really became become much more influential around trump and how he landed this very prime job. >> well, he is departed from anything to do with trump so it has happened over barr's objections in this case. how do people inside the doj and how might they see this, considering that it would require firing christopher wray to put patel in? >> well, you know, i think people have been preparing for some eventuality of this. and one of the things that you talk to people inside the the fbi, the big concern is whether patel or anyone else will come in and force the to use the fbi to go after trump's political enemies. it's something that patel has been talking a lot about. i think we have a soundbite of patel talking about this in a podcast listen i mean, i think what so many of these guys did, whether it's brennan, clapper, comey mccabe, strzok, barr haspel, esper, what have you, i think there's
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a lot of rule and law breaking and i don't know that it ever gets the level of treason singularly with any of them. >> but what you have is a build up of so many actions by the deep state that it becomes borderline treasonous to allow those people and their activities in a collective fashion, to ever be applied to the united states. >> and look, if you're an fbi employee, that's where you would have some concern about being used essentially for as a political cudgel for the incoming president. >> yeah this is going to worry a lot of people who are on president trump's president elect trump's bad list. evan perez thank you so much. we appreciate it. let's turn now to cnn's lauren fox, who is live for us on capitol hill. lauren, the reaction to both hunter biden's pardon and trump's selection of kash
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patel as fbi director has been swift. what are you hearing from lawmakers? >> yeah, brianna, first on kash patel, what you are hearing from a lot of republicans is one step at a time we heard from chuck grassley last night on x saying essentially that kash patel will go through the normal process in the senate. that means a confirmation hearing. that means lawmakers are going to have an opportunity to meet with him, to vet him. but of course, like evan mentioned, this is a very unusual situation given the fact that right now there is an fbi director, christopher wray, who is slated to hold that job for several more years. and this would basically require trump to fire him first, then turn around and nominate someone new. that means that the bar for that new person, a lot of senators are going to have questions. and so you're hearing from democrats a lot of concern. and even from some republicans just warning that this process has to play out. that is the tone and tenor that you have seen from a lot of republicans when it comes to some of these controversial picks for trump's cabinet. on the issue of hunter
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biden and president biden's, you know basically making sure that his son does not go to prison, making sure that this pardon happened before he left office. there is some frustration even from some democrats. i want to hear this is one statement from peter welch, a democrat from vermont. he said, quote president biden's pardon of his son hunter is as the action of a loving father, understandable but as the action of our nation's chief executive unwise. and there have been a number of house democrats who have made similar comments over the course of the last 24 hours. now, look lawmakers are just getting back to washington. i expect that senators are going to be asked many more questions about these two issues, but it just goes to show you that this is an issue when it comes to hunter biden that democrats have been very careful about when it comes to their commentary. and that is because they want to make sure that both for republicans and democrats, there's one standard. and that, i think, is
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why you're hearing from people like peter welch brianna lauren fox thank you for that. >> live for us from capitol hill, white house press secretary karine jean-pierre, of course, faced questions today while aboard air force one about president biden's pardon of his son she was asked whether the president would have made the decision if vice president harris had won the election. here's what she said i'm not going to i'm not going to get into into the election. >> it is a no. i can answer that. it is a no. he didn't believe that they would let up right? he didn't think that they would. they would continue to go after his son. >> that's what he believed and look, i'm not going to get into hypotheticals to the original part of your question. >> the president wrestled with this decision. he made this decision this weekend. and he decided to move forward with pardoning his let's discuss with democratic strategist julie roginsky, co-founder of lift our voices, and republican strategist erin perrine, who's with axiom strategies.
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>> thank you both for being with us. julie, first to you, do you think this was an unwise decision by president biden to pardon his son, hunter i'll go step even further. >> i think it's unwise to have the president have any kind of pardon power in the constitution. and there are things that we've done to change the constitution for years, i have thought that this was a horrible part of the constitution. the president is not god's anointed representative on earth. he doesn't speak ex cathedra like the pope. he doesn't get to just have this kind of doling out of mercy that kings in the olden days used to have. i didn't like it when marc rich got a pardon from bill clinton. i didn't like it when richard nixon got a pardon from gerald ford. i didn't like it that alexander hamilton put this, put this in the constitution. but here it is and anybody who thinks that this is somehow breaking norms or shattering some sort of expectation for what the next president is going to do, has been living in bizarro world. donald trump was always going to do what he was going to do. we know that because one of his family
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members, whom he pardoned, is on his way to being ambassador to france as we speak. and so look, we can't have two standards where the media goes nuts and wall to wall coverage about joe biden pardoning hunter and then saying oh, but you know what? all those pardons that donald trump that donald trump did in the first term, all the pardons that he said he's going to do with people who literally stormed our capitol and caused an insurrection that he promised to do as soon as he becomes president again. you know, that's just trump being trump. and let's not worry about that. this is the kind of double standard that has gotten us into this mess. and i say that again, as somebody who hates and loathes and despises the part in the constitution that allows any president to pardon anybody for any crime, a jury of your peers convicted you and that's who should be given the last word, not anybody with their noblesse oblige ability to just wave a magic wand and somehow get rid of, you know, any crimes that you might have committed. >> aaron, what do you think? >> i would push back on the notion that this is somehow, somehow, a double standard for donald trump here. let's be
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clear. there's always plenty of breathless outrage and coverage of anything donald trump does. the problem here is joe biden lied to the american people. the problem is, for years and for months, the white house at the official podium of the white house press secretary, stood there and lied to the american people because of what the president told her to say, which was a lie to the american people. we always knew this was going to be the outcome. he was always going to pardon hunter. that should have been the expectation. but the way that he led the american people on there is now going to not only be a complete distrust in the word that anything joe biden has to say for the remainder of his tenure and, well beyond this, because this does affect his credibility. and two, i think when you go back and look at this there is no moral high ground in politics. people are going to say republicans do this, democrats do this, and i have heard people call republicans morally bankrupt on this network time and again, we just saw joe biden, the president of the united states, lie to the american people for his own family and benefit that is moral bankruptcy. >> i do wonder, julie, if you
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think the pick of kash patel gives biden some cover for having made this decision, but also if biden, having made this decision, may increase the chances that patel is confirmed as fbi director look, patel is going to be confirmed or not confirmed because republican senators are either going to bend the knee to donald trump or not. >> they know he's not qualified. they know that even bill barr, who was by no means a paragon of democratic virtue, said that he didn't want kash patel anywhere near him so if kash patel gets confirmed it's not going to be because joe biden pardoned hunter it's going to be because republican senators are afraid to say no to donald trump, as they have consistently been afraid to say no to him. but look, i mean, if you're talking about lying you're talking about joe biden's word. joe biden's out of here in just a month or two, right? we're not going to hear from joe biden again. he's going to be a former president. that's going to be the end of that. but i want to be clear about something donald trump
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broke something in this country when he got elected the first time, and then he shattered it into a million pieces when he got reelected. and we will never get that back again. when you have a president of the united states, an incoming president, effectively saying that he is going to weaponize the justice department to go after his enemies when he called the biden family the biden quote unquote, crime family and made it very clear that he was going to do everything in his power to appoint people who were going to go after them regardless of whether they committed crimes or not. you don't need it to be a rocket scientist to understand which way the wind was going to blow. and as i said again, presidents should not have the ability to pardon, but it's very understandable when you have somebody like donald trump come in why somebody might say, you know what i don't want my son prosecuted for crimes that i have even considered that he may have done. and that, by the way, doesn't just apply to hunter biden. he's lucky his dad's the president it applies
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to all of us who criticize donald trump he is abnormal. he has broken every norm and he has broken every precedent that we've had in almost 250 years of this country. and so for anybody to sit there and say, well, joe biden lied, joe biden lied, are you kidding me? donald trump is your president. he's about to be our president again. and that is something that i think all of us need to consider when we're talking about the fact that one rule applies to somebody like joe biden, who apparently broke every precedent on earth by pardoning his son. and yet here we have. nobody paid attention to to to the wizard behind the curtain, somebody coming in who already pardoned every single person without going through any kind of pardon process like previous presidents had in his first term, for the most part, and who now says he'll do it again and who now says he will use the justice department as an ax of vengeance to go after his enemies, starting with and
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i quote the biden crime family. what do you expect was going to happen and, aaron, it's not just promising to go after some of his political rivals. >> he also seemed to equate hunter biden with the january 6th rioters. hunter biden, for all his faults was convicted of basically not checking a box on a form to buy a gun and not paying taxes, and a couple other things but these folks were convicted of actually assaulting police officers and destroying public property. the capital et cetera.. do you see an equivalence between those two? >> no, i don't see an equivalence between those two. but i believe that anybody who attacked an officer and broke into the capitol on january 6th should be held to a standard of the law and should be held to justice. now, i think there's a difference between those who assaulted police officers and the severity of those crimes and other people that were there. that's fair, because those meet different standards legally and by by the standard of the law all of that to say, donald trump is going to likely pardon some january 6th people. that's not a surprise. he said he was going to do that. but to
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the point that donald trump broke something in this country. absolutely. he did he broke the norms. he shattered the expectations. the american people had that government wasn't going to try to serve them so what he wants to do now and what he's been clear that he plans to do in the department of justice is get the people out who have targeted the american people. we have seen the department of justice, the fbi, the irs weaponize against everyday americans. they have said, i've had enough. you saw it with parents in virginia at school boards. you've seen people stand up in this country and be victimized by the federal government that's what donald trump is going after and considering he pardoned hunter for over a decade of possible criminality and not just the federal firearms license paperwork that he filled out improperly, that biden crime family title might not be that wrong. because if you're going back a whole decade for charges that didn't come through, what else was there? he knows. >> never indicted for any of his dealings overseas. in fact, while he was investigated by
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the trump administration going back to 2018, so why the blake and pardon then i yeah, that's a big question. nevertheless, the insinuation that is being made that biden committed these crimes, the biden crime family think that that's been debunked multiple times. there's no evidence that joe biden took advantage of his office, whether as vice president or president to make gains financially. >> but hunter is not the only person in the biden family. and so it's fair to say that it goes larger beyond. he's also not the only person who's profited from having their relatives in the oval office. >> absolutely. >> but again, there's no moral superiority in politics. i am talking about what donald trump and republicans believe to be the case am i saying that republicans are faultless and haven't used the government to their advantage before? no, because i'm not trying to be ignorant to the process here, but i can also say that in this case, it doesn't seem that far off base to say there's a crime family. when you look at this again, it was a ten year pardon, not just for those two things that he was in trouble for that's a big thing. >> he could have been charged if there was evidence of actual
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wrongdoing. there's a difference between something being possibly unethical and profiting from having a relative in office and something actually being illegal again, i think there's no proof that question asked joe biden then to say, why did you have to give your son a full ten year blanket pardon? >> if you were only concerned about the two crimes and the weaponization in these cases? his statement was very long and attempt to be very thorough, to try and not only express his heart behind why he made the decision, but the legality to try and say, my son should not be a victim of my decisions, that i believe this was politically motivated. he laid that out very clearly but that's because but if that's the case, if it's just for these two crimes, why the ten years the president has questions, he should be answering that question go ahead julian. >> question. that's an easy that's an easy answer, aaron. it's because you can indict a ham sandwich when you want to and he's putting prosecutors in there first. it was matt gaetz that didn't work out now it's going to be pam bondi. that's probably going to work out. and somebody like kash patel at the fbi who are going to trump up whatever charges they want to trump up. and if
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you look at what biden said, he was very clear they're going to use my son to get to me. they are going to exploit my son to get to me and you and i both know full well that if you have an fbi agent and you have an fbi director and you have a prosecutor that wants to charge you they will find something to charge you with and let you deal with the fallout. they will investigate you and bank and bank and bankrupt you even if they don't actually find anything to charge you with, they will make your life a living hell. donald trump actually is a convicted felon. so if you want to talk about donald trump's felonies, i'm very happy to talk about his multiple felonies. he was convicted by a jury of his peers, as was hunter biden the difference is that donald trump is about to go into the white house and has said repeatedly to his supporters, i am your vengeance. and that is what he is setting up the justice department to be. this is not normal. this is not george bush. this is not mitt romney. this is not john mccain this is not ronald reagan. this is not every other republican you have ever v for. this is an
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abnormal situation and an abnormal president who is using the justice department, which belongs to the american people, as his own private vendetta arm, an organization and that's why joe biden did what he did. >> julian. aaron, we have to leave the conversation there. very much appreciate you sharing your point of view. thanks so much. still ahead this hour on cnn news central as washington reacts to the fallout from the hunter biden pardon, the president is on a long awaited trip to sub-saharan africa. what he hopes to accomplish with only seven weeks left before he leaves the white house meantime, president-elect trump just issuing a major threat against hamas vowing that there will be, quote hell to pay unless every hostage is released by his first day in office. >> and you may want to finally clear out your cart this cyber monday. we have a list of items that could cost more if trump's expected tariffs promise tariffs take effect. we'll have these stories and more all coming up this hour on cnn news central so what are you thinking?
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when former president barack obama had visited kenya and ethiopia for president biden, this is a trip trying to show that the u.s. is invested in africa at a time when china has made many deep inroads into the continent. now, president biden landed here a short while ago, greeting u.s. embassy staff and their families before going down for the night. tomorrow he will meet with the country's president in a bilateral meeting and then deliver remarks at the national museum of slavery. those remarks are intended to tie together the deep u.s. and angolan relationship, which has a long, complicated history. this museum overlooks the ocean, where many africans were then shipped as slaves to america. so president biden is expected to speak about that dark part of the history. but also the way forward now, on wednesday, the president will be focusing on some of the u.s. investments
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when it pertains to infrastructure in this country. he will be touring the lobito corridor, as well as visiting a food processing facility. as he's trying to highlight food insecurity, as well a major part of this trip is highlighting that investment in the libido corridor that is a 100 800 mile railway project which has yet to be finished. that's trying to connect interior africa to the western ports to try to export critical minerals. this is all moves being made in the face of china's growing influence in the region, with many experts saying that those investments from the chinese, the billions of dollars that they've poured in here is really leaving the u.s. and other countries to catch up arlette saenz, live for us in angola following president biden. >> thank you so much, brianna. >> today, the israeli military confirming that an american israeli soldier believed to have been held hostage in gaza has been killed, the idf says 21 year old captain omar maxim neutral
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was killed on october seventh during the hamas attack on israel. cnn's jeremy diamond is in tel aviv for us. jeremy what else can you tell us about this well, omar, neutral was a tank commander in the israeli military, and he was one of the first to respond to hamas's october 7th attacks. >> and the israeli military is now confirming that he was indeed killed on that day. more than a year after the incident happened. and his body has been held hostage by hamas in gaza ever since then. for his parents of course, this was devastating news. they have held out hope for the last 14 months that their son was still alive, going to the white house as recently as within the last month. speaking with president biden, advocating for the release of their son, who they hoped would safely return home. this now leaves four out of the seven american hostages still being held captive by hamas confirmed dead by the israeli military, three of them still perhaps believed to be alive we
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the key spending hours for americans when americans are doing the most shopping today is between 8 p.m. and 10 p.m. on average, americans are going to be spending $15.7 million every single minute between those two hours. now, black friday didn't do so bad either. about $10.8 billion in spending. that's up about $1 billion from the year before. and thanksgiving, people were shopping on thanksgiving, about $6 billion. there but some trends that we're seeing this year is seems like a lot of people were waiting for these black friday and cyber monday deals. we're seeing robust spending. we're seeing people shopping more right from their phones, not logging on to the computer anymore. more phone shopping. and we're also seeing something called buy now pay later about in the last month or so, $7.6 billion worth of spending and buy now, pay later, $1 billion worth of that is going to be done just today. that's sort of the modern day
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