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breaking news. >> some dramatic scenes playing out on the streets in south korea as the country's president declares martial law amid widespread condemnation. >> the move sparking clashes between troops and members of parliament we'll take you there live. >> plus back on offense, donald trump's pick for defense secretary returning to capitol hill to meet with more senate republicans. >> but the question remains can pete hegseth shore up support? >> amid new scathing reports of inappropriate behavior and the saga involving a stowaway who made it past multiple security checkpoints on a flight to paris. >> taking another dramatic turn. >> we're going to tell you when she might be returned to the u.s. and how this is raising new questions about air travel security. >> we're following these developing stories and many more, all coming in right here to cnn news central

we have breaking news in to cnn, a fast moving, intense situation is unfolding right now in south korea after that country's president made a stunning move, declaring martial law. president yoon suk yeol says he wants to protect the country from, quote, communist forces. the extraordinary declaration has put south korea on edge with clashes outside the country's parliament as troops try to hold back large crowds of protesters. the president decree is also being met by a quick resistance among lawmakers. not long ago, the national assembly voted unanimously to block it. this, as we've learned that president joe biden has been briefed on the situation as he is traveling in africa, but he has yet to weigh in. remember more than 28,000 service members are stationed in south korea. american service members, along with thousands more civilian workers and their family members. cnn's mike valerio is live for us in seoul. mike, what exactly sparked all of this and what's

going on behind you right now well, boris, this is the center of gravity for multitudes of protesters coming to the national assembly, the heart of government here in south korea, saying that this is not, again, from their point of view how democracy, a bastion of democracy in asia, is supposed to function. >> so to give you a lay of the land just over my left hand shoulder, that is the national assembly, the parliament where members had voted just a few hours ago to suspend and overturn the south korean president's declaration of martial law made again in a surprise television address to the nation. so you see several dozen protesters that are still gathered around here. we had a speech by cho, who is a liberal member or he's from the liberal side of south korea's political equation, saying that this declaration of martial law was illegal. so many people around us have said that the

south korean president's days are numbered so how exactly we got here? you know can't blame you if you don't follow south korean politics every single day. how in the world did this happen? we have a very conservative president here, yoon suk yeol, deeply unpopular. favorability ratings. boris, about in the high 20% range. members of the opposition have tried to impeach him for months, if not years, and analysts are saying our sources here in yeouido, the neighborhood where the national assembly is that perhaps this was a move by south koreans south korea's president, to tamp down on dissent, to take back control. but still as you mentioned, at the top of the show in that speech, he said that he did this to rein back in control, protect the forces, protect the country from quote, unquote, communist and north korean forces. i'll tell you, boris people across this country are scratching their heads and saying, what in the world does he mean? so let's show you a little bit over here again. couple dozen in total. in total, several hundred people

are crowded into the square before we came on the air, i'd say maybe about a half hour ago. and encouraging development. we were in the middle of a crowd with two humvees, armored vehicles, leaving the area around the national assembly that is key, because when lawmakers of this american ally said hey, this martial law can't stand, they ordered members of the military to step back there were soldiers we saw through reports who were preventing people from coming here. but as soon as that declaration of martial law was suspended and overturned thankfully we can say members of the military started to push back and we can report that that is still happening at this early morning hour boris really a fast moving situation. >> there mike valerio, thank you for being our eyes on the ground. i actually want to go to cnn's paula hancocks who's on the phone with us. she spent more than a decade leading cnn's coverage on the korean peninsula and the surrounding

region. paula, this is to a degree unprecedented in the modern era. south korea's been a stable democracy since at least the late 80s, right well, that's right, boris. >> but remember i mean, it is a fairly young democracy in some sense. and there will be many people in korea many of the the older generations, who, when they heard tonight that there was a martial law being declared, would have been transported back just 40 years when this happened, the last time there has been a very bloody and very difficult history for decades under dictatorships and martial laws military coups in south korea. and there was a belief that that was in the past and the democracy was flourishing. so this would have come as a very nasty shock to many who would have lived through those

previous martial laws and and many people lost their lives in, in bloody crackdowns when there were protests in the past so it will be a huge shock. i mean, many that i have spoken to over recent hours were questioning what exactly was the reason that president yun sun abbe lowell decided this was a necessary move i mean, what he said publicly, was it was against communist forces in north korea that the shameless, pro-north, anti-state forces. but his reasoning didn't really point to north korea at all. his reasoning was political. he was speaking about the opposition party, the fact that it had been impeaching some prosecutors, it had been blocking bills which yun sun wanted to put through because the opposition has been in control really, it's had the majority in parliament since earlier this year, and has not

in yoon's words, been allowing him to govern or to push through the legislation that he wanted to. so i think the overwhelming feeling at this point is that this was a very surprising military reaction. if you like to a political stalemate it's a very polarized country. south korea at the moment. the two sides, the two political stances are dead set against each other but interestingly, when it came to this martial law declaration, the parliament, which did have some members of yun sun own party, unanimously voted against this martial law, voted to block the martial law 190 out of 300 members of parliament voted to block it, but there were only 190 that were physically there. it was the middle of the night that this happened so it was a unanimous pushback against the president boris. >> yeah, really startling that

even the leader of his own party voted to upend this martial law declaration. paula hancocks, thank you so much for that fascinating perspective brianna, back here in washington on the hill, president elect donald trump's pick to lead the pentagon pete hegseth will soon be meeting with key republican senators who will decide his fate as he faces a slew of troubling new allegations. the new yorker is reporting that the former fox host was forced out of previous leadership positions at two veterans service organizations amid claims of financial mismanagement, sexual misconduct and personal misconduct, including reports of being intoxicated on the job. still a senior adviser to trump tells cnn that the transition team is confident in hedgepeth's confirmation when it comes to pete hegseth, there aren't any concerns and we feel very good about his positioning for being confirmed by the senate. >> the letter in the new yorker or the whatever they called it, the new yorker with their piece

that they ran that was basically just innuendo and gossip. it was written by a disgruntled former employee. and so, again, this was not some some legal finding or something in the court of law. this was a former employee who was very much, very much did not like pete. >> cnn's manu raju is live for us now from the hill. manu, what are you hearing from lawmakers ahead of today's meetings about how they are reacting to this news well, there are a lot of republican senators who are simply not there yet about trying to make it take a position about whether to support pete hegseth. >> there are he does have support, some sizable support among republican senators. but remember, it takes just three, just four republican senators to break ranks, assuming all democrats vote no in the new congress to essentially scuttle this nomination. and there are more than three. there are several who are not taking a position one way or the other. they want the confirmation hearings to take place. they some want an fbi background check. it's unclear if that

will happen, and they want to get a chance to ask him these questions themselves. now, behind closed doors over the last day or so, he has been meeting with some conservative republican senators in those meetings. some of the senators themselves have not asked pete hegseth any questions about the revelations in the new yorker report, including senator tommy tuberville told he told me yesterday that was not part of their discussion yesterday, as well as meeting with about a dozen or so republican senators behind closed doors last night, this topic did not come up those republican senators came out and indicated that they would support his confirmation but the big question is where do other senators come down? some of the more moderate senators some of those who are concerned about these allegations, and particularly the allegations of sexual assault, something that he denies but some do believe is a very serious concern given the problem of sexual assault in the military, an issue that has been debated on capitol hill about how to rectify that in the pentagon. but all of this is to be said is that people are bracing for potential more revelations to come out, and also how hegseth can deal with

this. in a confirmation proceeding, raising questions about whether he can actually get the job because a lot of senators, republican senators are saying at the moment they don't know if they can support him just yet. brianna. >> yeah big questions. manu raju, live for us on the hill. thank you. president elect trump's former defense secretary mark esper is with us now. we should note that secretary esper is a strategic advisor for a handful of aerospace and defense related companies. so thanks for taking the time to talk about this person who has been picked to fill the position. you once held. and i just wonder what you think. as we're hearing jane meyer reporting that there were these serious allegations of financial mismanagement, sexual impropriety and personal misconduct, that pushed hegseth out of his position at two veterans service organizations, including a whistleblower report describing him as being repeatedly intoxicated while acting in his official capacity to the point of needing to be carried out of the organization's events. when you hear a republican senator

like cynthia lummis from wyoming trying to dismiss this and say that sometimes soldiers are quote, wild childs what is your reaction to that well look, these are tough reports and obviously he's on the path to having a confirmation hearing sometime in in early january and first of all, that's bad news for any nominee, right? >> whether it's a republican or democrat, the longer you're out there exposed, the more that opposition will dig at you, the more the media will dig at you. >> and so you don't know in the next 4 or 5 weeks what else might come out but look, i this is part of the senate advice and consent process. that's why i think it's an important constitutional tool to to give a good scrub of the president's nominees. i think, look, president trump has picked him because he has confidence in him, but he's going to have to go through that process like everyone else. and we'll see what happens on the back end. >> what do you think about him hearing these things well, i mean, the reports are not good. >> they're troubling. but look, i like his background as

a soldier. his service in combat. but he obviously comes to the the position, the nomination without as much experience as his predecessors but these are all the things that will be brought out during the nomination hearing not just his experience. these allegations, but also what is his view on women in combat? what is his view on modernization of the military? what is his view on dei and the so-called woke agenda? i think all these questions are going to be on the table. it's going to be a tough hearing if we get to that point. and so and he won't be the only one, but it will be a challenging hearing for him that he's going to have to be prepared for. >> yeah. no doubt. i want to ask you as well about president-elect trump's fbi director pick kash patel, because you actually tell a story in your memoir of what you saw as a big mess up by patel during what we have now learned was a seal team six mission. i don't think you mentioned that it was seal team six, but it was according to reporting, the seal team six

mission to rescue an american hostage in nigeria that patel had told american officials coordinating the mission that mike pompeo, the secretary of state had gotten the okay for the team to use the country's airspace, which is obviously critical. if you want to avoid an international incident, you write quote, a few hours later though, around 4:45 p.m., i learned some disturbing news. apparently we did not have permission to enter the airspace of one of the key countries in the aircraft were only 15 miles away from the international border so then at this point, these choppers carrying the seals circle for about an hour waiting, and you go on quote. by the time mike pompeo and i spoke an hour later, he still didn't have the okay from the remaining country. he also didn't know where patel received his information. pompeo never spoke with him, so ultimately, this mission succeeded. you got that approval in the nick of time. but did you ever figure out what happened? why? patel said that there was this clearance. and do you think that patel

endangered those special operators yeah. >> to this day, i still don't know what happened. we tried. we being mike pompeo and myself and myself tried to brought this up with robert o'brien. the the president's national security advisor. a couple weeks later, our concerns about what happened, how this process worked, and asked him to look into it. but it you know, i was out of office not long after that, but we to this day, i still don't know exactly what happened at the time. the allegation from my folks at the pentagon was that this information was conveyed by kash patel and that they believed he just made it up. i don't know it's it's an outstanding question but of course, at that point in time, because the our special operators had been in the air for such a long time, we had to make that call if we hadn't got that permission we could the president could have made the call using his article two authority, or we would have had to scrub the mission. so what it jeopardized was the the risk of the mission was jeopardized. and of course, our concern was the reason why we launched the

troops at that moment of time is we were concerned that the american on the ground that was being held might either be killed, might be handed off to a terrorist group, and of course, we already had americans captured in west africa at that point in time had become hostages. so there was a risk not just to the mission, but also to the american on the ground. but fortunately, like i said some great work by the deputy secretary of state at the state department got the permission. and then our special operators pulled it off flawlessly. and we brought that american out of harm's way yeah, a successful mission in the end. >> and finally, i want to ask you about south korea. there's obviously there's so much going on today to talk to you about. but as you're watching what's happening here, the south korean president declaring martial law, the national assembly rebuking him and knowing that there are tens of thousands of americans service members, their families, civilians contractors who are there as part of the american military footprint in korea. what are your concerns

yeah. >> look, this is very surprising that there's no clear reason why he declared this. there's no apparent immediate, urgent threat from north korea that i'm seeing. in fact, i was just in asia a couple weeks ago, and we were talking about how good the relationship has been between tokyo, japan and washington, d.c., and that's uh, i'm sorry, tokyo seoul and washington d.c. and much of that relationship coming out of south korea was based on president yoon. so it's hard to explain what's happening or why, but i of course, am concerned about american troops, service members, contractors civilians and others. we have a very capable commander there general paula cameron, who i've known for many many years. i'm sure he has the situation. well under control, but we obviously need to figure this out quickly. it's good to see that the parliament rejected this overwhelmingly and that his own party leader, his own party president, has rejected this as well. so hopefully this situation will be, uh, stabilized fairly quickly. and then we can kind of do the autopsy and figure out what happened here and then the

south koreans are going to have to figure out what to do in this case. >> yeah, really stunning turn of events there. secretary esper, thank you so much for making time for us thank you brianna. still to come this hour syrian rebels have reportedly gained more ground as the fight with the with bashar al assad's regime is ramping back up also ahead, why los angeles police say the woman that they have been looking for is now considered a voluntary missing person. what we know about this hawaii woman, hannah kobayashi whereabouts and then later is your job pushing you to quit instead of just letting you go? everything you need to know about quiet firing. you're watching cnn news central. we'll be right back can't fool myself. >> it was the most exciting time in the world his life had extremely joyful moments and some really difficult moments

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largest in syria. some syrians who had fled because of the war are now actually returning home hugging and taking pictures together. the surprise rebel success has put the u.s. in an awkward spot while supporting some of the rebel groups. the u.s. does not back the one leading the charge known as he's a designated terror group with ties to al qaeda. let's turn now to cnn's senior international correspondent, ben wedeman. ben, give us the latest on these rebel movements yes. >> what we're seeing boris, is that the rebels led as you said, by hayat tahrir al-sham which did have connections with al qaeda, however, has tried to distance itself from the group they are moving closer to the city of hama, which is in the center of syria, a city that had revolted against the assad dynasty. >> the father of bashar al-assad, hafez back in 1982, when the syrian army and

intelligence killed at least 10,000 people. this is a city that has long been opposed to the regime of the assad dynasty, and we understand from the syrian official news agency that the government has sent reinforcements to that city. but what we saw in aleppo was that government forces essentially vanished when faced with the rebel attack that began on wednesday and succeeded by friday evening to essentially take most of aleppo itself. what we've seen is morale is not very high among the government troops. and in the absence of real support from iran, from hezbollah and from the russians, that the regime forces really are on the defensive throughout most of northern and central syria. all we've seen really is the syrian and russian air forces striking various rebel

strongholds. but on the ground, they don't seem to be putting up much of a fight. boris ben wedeman, thanks so much for that update, brianna. >> now to a senator's mystery change of heart over the military promotion of this army general chris donahue, who oversaw, in part, the u.s. exit from afghanistan. and he has just become the commander of u.s. army europe, africa. according to a senate aide, that's actually an advancement that had been on hold because of republican senator markwayne mullin last month, mullen blocked the general's promotion after calling out donahue. for his part in the afghanistan withdrawal. we have cnn's oren liebermann with us now. oren, what are you learning about why, senator mullen dropped his objection well, senator markwayne mullin hasn't made a statement or comment about why he lifted the hold to lieutenant general chris donahue's promotion to become the commander of u.s. >> army forces in europe and africa. so it's unclear why he had a change of heart here. it could be that there was simply pressure from not only other

republicans in the senate, but from current and former officials who have very much lauded donahue's career. his character, his accomplishments. according to his army biography, he has deployed more than 20 times in a career that has spanned more than three decades, including deployments to afghanistan, iraq, syria north africa, eastern europe and other places. he was also critical in, for example, standing up the security assistance group ukraine, which was the u.s. mechanism to help train and repair ukrainian equipment on the battlefield in in a real time war. so he has, frankly, a very storied career here. and this is part of that. that picture you see on your screen, this is him being the last u.s. soldier out of afghanistan that becoming an iconic picture as he oversaw the withdrawal or the final withdrawal in the closing days of the u.s. presence in afghanistan. now, some, including senator markwayne mullin, have held that against him because of the abbey gate bombing in which 13 u.s. service members were killed at the international airport in kabul because of a suicide bombing. in fact, on the third

anniversary of that bombing, it was mullen who namechecked donahue and said, nobody here has been held accountable. so why he lifted that hold that remains unclear, but i will point out that donahue has tremendous support from former and current officials in this building, including a guest you had on just a short time ago, former secretary of defense mark esper who said he was a great pick for the position and also pointed out that you shouldn't be holding the military officials responsible for what their civilian essentially leaders had them and instructed them to do. and that, it seems, was exactly what was happening here. >> all right. still more to know, obviously, but very interesting oren liebermann live for us at the pentagon. thank you. the stowaway saga continues after six u.s. marshals were prepared to escort the woman who had snuck onto a paris flight. delta said nope who should be the 2024 cnn hero of the year?

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>> well, the difficulty is that delta is responsible for bringing her back to the u.s. because they took her over and under the various aviation rules it's delta's responsibility and costs to bring her back but the last thing delta airlines wants is some passenger creating. they are, after all, in the business of public transport and if this woman is like even with six air marshals if this woman is likely to create havoc, chaos, make a scene left, right and center. if god forbid, she ends up having to be strapped to the chair. well, delta doesn't want passengers having to put up with that and rightly so. here's where it gets interesting. how do they get her back to the united states, since that is the point of departure? my guess is that if she won't cooperate, if the french are determined to deport if delta refuses then delta will end up paying for a charter flight to bring her

back. pretty much like a prisoner's flight. and she'll be on it all on her own with security guards well, that would be another weird chapter in this story. >> the tsa is still trying to figure out exactly how she got past them last week at jfk. they're now opening a civil case against her. do you think criminal charges could be brought? >> oh, there's a whole host of things. look where the tsa is concerned here. there is enough egg on their face to make a scrambled breakfast. the reality is, they've said nothing about what happened. but the truth is, it evaded the id section to begin with. she got through the body scanner, so she clearly didn't have anything on her that was dangerous. and then delta managed not to get her or to not to put her through proper procedures. when she got to the gate. it beggars belief in this day and age that a passenger not somebody who stowed away through the baggage hold or got

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>> this is a little bit of reverse psychology. >> companies are trying to get you to quit so they don't have to lay you off or fire you. so in certain instances, companies may have overhired and they don't want to have to fire or lay you off. so quitting is easier. also, if they do fire or lay you off specifically, specifically laying you off, they do have to provide severance and continued benefits that that is money that the company then has to pay out to employees. now, some of the tactics that companies are using to get people to quit, are they are saying, you got to come back to the office five days a week. a lot of people aren't going to like that. and so they may choose to quit also reducing workloads. maybe for some employees that sounds like a good thing. but for overachievers, people want to do the work. excluding people from key projects that the company is working on, and also giving poor performance reviews or no raises at all, that might have a lot of employees thinking, wait a

minute, this company is not investing in me. i have no upward trajectory, so i'm going to look elsewhere. i'm going to quit. >> vanessa, what's the legality here? like? where is the line of what your employer can do to try to get you to quit before it becomes illegal? >> right. well, it is legal for them to try to get you to quit in these various ways. they're not breaking the law. however, they are breaking the law if there's any discrimination involved. so if you feel like you're being discriminated against because of age gender, race, national origin and that's why they're forcing you out or trying to get you to quit. you do have a leg to stand on, but ultimately, is this good for the company? this ultimately could backfire because at some point you're going to want to try to hire employees not get employees to quit, and i spoke to laura marzullo last night she's an hr recruiter and she has her own staffing company, and she told me this. she said, quote someone getting someone to quit is not a good employer branding

strategy. exclamation point. word gets out fast and people will not want to work there. going forward. it will have a long tail of bad consequences. so while some companies guys may be doing this right now in the long run it doesn't set the stage for being able to recruit high talent and get people back in the door at the companies. >> yeah because maybe you end up welcoming people back who will come and sit around at work and not work as hard as those people working from home. you just never know. so many side effects here, vanessa. thank you so much. we always love to have you always very happy that you're here. see, it's the opposite clashes and this is ahead. this is a very serious story that we're following. clashes erupting in south korea after the president declared martial law accusing the country's main opposition party of being north korean sympathizers these are live pictures coming to us from seoul. you can see it is almost 4 a.m. there. we'll have more

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