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could a moment of flirtation help catch a killer? >> new pictures unmasked the man suspected of shooting and killing a health care executive in new york. we've got new details just in on the manhunt a defiant pete hegseth still fighting to keep his nomination on the table and convinced lawmakers that he is the changed man. >> he says he is now his attorney is leveling what's being seen as a threat against a woman who has accused hegseth of sexual assault and the leaded gas of the past. may be causing some major health complications today. i'm kate bolduan with john berman. sara is out today. this is cnn news central all right. >> this morning we're getting new details just in about the man suspected of killing a

health care ceo in the middle of manhattan. newly released photos show the gunman smiling right there while flirting with the woman. that woman, an employee at the hospital where he stayed, said she asked him to lower his mask during the exchange. that's why we have this picture. that's why the camera caught this moment. investigators say the man used a fake new jersey driver's license to check into that hospital, and he paid in cash. we also learned the suspect arrived in new york city ten days before the shooting on a greyhound bus that originated in atlanta. now, it's not clear if he got on the bus in atlanta or someone else somewhere else. i should say with us now is cnn chief law enforcement and intelligence analyst john miller. john, what people can't see is you were actually on the phone working your sources right up until the minute you come on, you just got off the phone. what is the latest? >> well, the latest is they had a moment of peace last night while we were sleeping. so they kind of collated the leads they

had coming in based on the picture. and, you know, they're racking and stacking them and prioritizing them. but they've assembled teams to to go out on everything and they're getting the usual. right. this guy looks like my high school teacher. i think i saw him yesterday but you know, the ones that will rise to the top are if they get, you know, four calls about the same person or if they do a background investigation into a name and it turns out that person, you know has a giant issue going on in the background about a health care issue. so they're working through that, but they now have a bigger palette to work from because not just in flying in and doing the murder and you know, disappearing in ten days. he could have run into, had contact with or touched a lot of people ten days in new york city that really does seem, i don't know, unusual focused, mission oriented he comes in the first place. he goes is to the hilton hotel. he starts his reconnaissance right away. he knows this event is coming up. he knows it's a big place.

he's got to obtain that e-bike that he used in his getaway somewhere. he didn't bring it on the bus they have video of him coming in at the port authority bus terminal. he's traveling light. so he's using that ten days to learn this terrain. it is highly likely that he's not from here. it's suggested by his travel, but it's also highly likely that not being from here, he probably hasn't been here before. so he spent that time familiarizing himself he went to a mcdonald's. he took a cab. he's moving about quite a bit. >> any information about the weapon since they have the shell casings, they've been able to get anywhere on that. >> so the shell casings haven't matched up to other shootings in the nibin system. so this is not a gun that's known to have been involved in other crimes in new york, which makes sense. they're studying a couple of particular weapons that are specifically designed for assassins that you know, are fitted with silencers but they're not sure could be a

ghost gun. untraceable so they're going over that but that weapon hasn't been recovered, nor has the backpack that he wore during that shooting. he's on video riding a bike into central park with that gray backpack, and he's on video coming out of central park, 20 blocks north on the other side without that backpack, they did a fairly good grid search with a mobile field force and didn't come up with that. but the park is big and complicated. you've been there. they may go back on that and look more. >> well, that is interesting. so the idea is the backpack could be out there somewhere and what would be in it could be the next series. >> the other thing they could do is they know the make and brand of that backpack. they could replicate that, do another press briefing and saying, you know, if somebody picked this up or heard that a friend found this perfectly new backpack you know, on a park bench and kept it, we want to see it. all right. >> john miller, a lot of new details. we will wait to hear from officials today and again from you, i'm sure not too long from now. thank you kate.

>> also today, president elect donald trump is returning to the world stage traveling to paris for the reopening of the notre dame cathedral that reopening happens this weekend. meanwhile, back at home, his pick for defense secretary is still facing an uphill climb on capitol hill after a week of meetings and a true media blitz and some pretty blunt and brutal questions, pete hegseth remains defiant as he fights to hang on to his nomination. his lawyer was also on cnn last night, and told my colleague kaitlan collins, pete hegseth name has been submitted to the fbi for a background check and also suggested they could take legal action against one of his accusers if he is not confirmed the false claims of somebody that was part of an extortion that was then, that was then put out in violation of a settlement agreement ultimately causes him to lose his future employment opportunities. >> then yes, that is something that is worth bringing a

lawsuit against her and her friend and potentially even the attorney cnn's kristen holmes has much more on all of us all of this for us this morning, kristen good morning. >> good morning kate. yeah. that threat is not going over well. >> we've already heard from democratic senator richard blumenthal who said it was reprehensible. but let's talk about where exactly he stands as of this friday. we know that coming out of this week, there are no hard nose. that is according to his team they are still optimistic that there is a pathway for hegseth to get confirmed and because of that, donald trump has not pulled his support from pete hegseth. the two of them spoke yesterday. we know that, he told pete, according to pete hegseth, that he had his full support and that he's still trying to fight for every single vote he has more meetings up on the hill next week but of course, the question is whether or not donald trump continues to maintain that support. we are told the reason that he has not pulled away from hegseth is twofold. one, the fact that they do believe there's this pathway, that there aren't any

hard nosed like what we saw with attorney general nominee matt gaetz. it was just very clear early on. but two, a part of what is going on here is the fact that donald trump is being told by some of his advisers that they don't want him to seemingly lose again in a battle with lawmakers, that this could be some kind of power struggle. but at the end of the day, we know one thing. this looks very different from the matt gaetz situation for a number of reasons. one, donald trump isn't really rallying behind hegseth in the same way. he is clearly lending his support. but he's not personally calling senators, and it doesn't appear that he's going to. jd vance, president vice president elect, is doing that work for him. but on the other side of this, again, they are still being told that they see an opportunity here for hegseth to be confirmed as secretary of defense. we'll obviously wait and see. one thing, kate, to keep in mind, i was told by a senior adviser to trump that if there are more allegations, more accusations that could change everything. >> yeah, i mean, this is a standby to stand by every

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least give them some support if there is some sort of politically motivated investigations of them. so in the discussion of a possible criminal investigation from the federal government that donald trump may want to do if he wants to use the justice department to do this there are senior aides in the biden white house who are discussing deliberating about the potential need for the broad usage of the presidential pardon power to protect people, giving them preemptive pardons. it's not something that we really ever have seen before. richard nixon was preemptively pardoned when he was leaving office by gerald ford, but there was a criminal investigation already that was substantial around him. so this would be a very different thing. there's also a lot of discussion about how to support people if they do fall under investigation by a coming trump administration, or even by congressional investigators. and so there are a lot of lawyers around town who are who are talking about, do we get together? do we offer free

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enforcement experience. brittany blair is joining me now. brittany thanks for jumping on 48 hours in now. where should the most energy be placed in this investigation? do you think well kate, i mean, i say this all the time. unfortunately, investigations like this don't, um, they take a lot of physical and manual activity. it's not. there's no magic button that you can press. that's just going to immediately identify this guy and track him. so right now, i'm sure that all of the resources that nypd and the federal agencies have are being thrown at both tracking and identifying every movement, every bit of this man's background so that they can they can get to him and and the ability to track the movement just already what they've been able, how they've been able to track it is pretty remarkable, including we have new reporting from john miller today that attention is being some of the attention is being turned to the backpack. he it's a distinctive backpack that he

was seen wearing. he's seen wearing it when he's entered, when he enters central park, when as he's running from the scene of the crime and when he leaves central park, he does not have it. how important is that backpack? i mean, the backpack is a critical element. it is an identifier. and i'm sure that a lot of resources are being placed into trying to, uh, you know, recover it because you have no idea what was in that backpack. likely a murder weapon. additional identifying details, dna samples, all of that plays into an investigation like this and as this investigation is still going full throttle, this has also put a spotlight on the private security efforts that so many fortune 500 companies undertake for their top executives. brian thompson's murder has these major companies kind of now reevaluating how they protect their executives. and in the wake of this, what kind of review do you think unitedhealthcare and others like it are doing right now i mean i think that unfortunately

incidents like this bring front of mind things that many of us don't want to think about right and so in my industry, this is what someone like me is paid to do. we we think through the worst of the worst case scenarios and a lot of corporate security and corporate security consultants come, they come up with plans for all these worst case scenarios and, and ways in which companies and ceos, executives, c-suites can get ahead of it. my one of my biggest things is online monitoring, not just of threats, but chatter what what are people saying? what are they talking about? are they talking about your company? it's not always just your top executives. there's many levels in the c-suite and all of them can be targeted online and if you're not gathering that intel and paying attention to inform your security posture, you're way behind the curve and and i'm hoping that everyone is recognizing the importance of paying attention to what's being said online

and to any potential threats you have to take every threat as a serious threat. yeah. and what you're getting at also, and i wanted to ask you about this what's happening online because his murder has unleashed a flood of rage and frustration on social media, not about the murderer so much, but at unitedhealthcare, i mean, as the new york times put it, it's unleashed a torrent of morbid glee from patients and others who say they had negative experiences with health insurance companies. you know just a blatant lack of sympathy over the death of a man who is a husband and father of two. it's and it's gross to see what people are saying. but still, to your point, how does that factor into all of it it'i mean, it's every industry, every single business is going to have an enemy because when you're interacting with the public, you're touching people's lives. so the health care industry, of course, touches more lives than most industries. but the banking industry faces threats from people who feel wronged by a

loan denial or a foreclosure. um stores and corporations who feel like their prices are too, too high. these these companies have a direct impact on people's everyday lives. and and that rage and is is real and unfortunately, you know online people find communities. right. and they and they feel emboldened. and we live in a very unfortunate, violent society where we have access to guns and there are access to to means by which to enact violence. and and no one is immune from it and unfortunately, we have to take all of this very seriously. and i think all companies have that potential. you have a potential to make an enemy when you do business with the general public. yeah. and now the need to sift through frustration to try to find the real you know, the real threat and the real danger there. brittany, thank you so much. it's good it's good to have you on. and it takes john yeah. thank you so

much for having me. oh sorry john. >> all right. new this morning, president elect trump's pick for defense secretary pete hegseth does not yet have the endorsement, at least publicly, from one the one senator who might be able to secure his nomination. that's joni ernst and that nomination seems to be teetering on the balance. still, one republican senator tells cnn that while he sees a path for his confirmation, he has more work to do. let's get right to capitol hill. cnn's lauren fox is there. what are you hearing this morning yeah, john, a lot of this is hinging on the days and weeks ahead. >> and you know, i think that senator kevin cramer put it best this week. >> he said, i told pete hegseth the one thing that senators do not like is surprises. and moving forward, what republican lawmakers are looking at is does anything else come out? are there other allegations that surface? some of these members had positive meetings with pete hegseth this week, including senator mike rounds, who said that he could

potentially at some point get to yes on hegseth. yes, he thought hegseth had more work to do, but the confirmation fight is going to be one that takes some time and it's going to center around how pete hegseth does in a confirmation hearing. that will happen in a public setting. a lot of these meetings, you know, senators are asking sensitive questions behind closed doors that all changes when you move to more of a public setting. once again all eyes are on senator joni ernst a republican from iowa who sits on the senate armed services committee and is someone who's been very outspoken about believing that women should be allowed to be in combat, something that pete hegseth has made comments about, saying that he didn't believe that they should be. i think that those kinds of questions are going to be really central to the days and weeks ahead. but here's what senator ernst said about her vote he will continue with the vetting process. >> i think that that is incredibly important. >> doesn't sound on your answer that you've gotten to a yes.

if i'm wrong about that, correct me and if that is the case, it sounds to me as if the hearing will be critical for his nomination. am i right about that? i think i think you are right. >> i think for a number of our senators, they want to make sure that any allegations have been cleared now, one key thing to keep in mind in the days ahead, john is that hegseth was able to accomplish on the hill, not a barrage of no votes this week right. >> he was able to keep many senators keeping the door open to his nomination. and that potentially could be enough to keep his nomination floating for the next days and weeks ahead. he does have more meetings on capitol hill next week obviously, we're going to be pressing lawmakers on whether or not they are getting comfortable with hegseth and ultimately being ready to vote for him. john. >> all right. lauren fox, for us on capitol hill with us now cnn political commentators paul begala and shermichael

singleton. so there's been reporting that the trump team in texas themselves were hoping that joni ernst, the senator from iowa, would come out and say she was a yes vote or at least more body language to the effect that she might be a yes vote. that clearly didn't happen in that sound bite we just heard right there. and then there's this from the washington post. paul, this says pete hegseth has been told not to expect trump to apply pressure to republican senators to get him over the finish line. i think we have a graphic of this. according to two people familiar with the discussion. so ernst, not at a yes trump not making calls. what does that spell for you? paul well, it says there's two paths to mr. hegseth leading the pentagon. >> slim and none. it's not going to happen. okay? donald trump is not afraid of a camera. he knows how to make his case. and he's not doing it. and there's a reason he's cutting the guy loose. this is i know, mr. hegseth used to star in a chat show on fox news, but. but this is a show called walking dead. and maybe

pete doesn't know it, but every sign is that that trump is cutting this guy loose shermichael. >> why wouldn't trump make phone calls or say something publicly yeah, i think if i'm advising the president elect, i'm going to say let's just wait. >> we don't know if there's anything that hasn't come out yet that could come out in the next couple of weeks and as an adviser and paul knows this very, very well, john you want to protect and insulate your principle from any potential political damages, particularly this early on after what we saw with matt gaetz now, our kaitlan collins at timothy parlatore on last night that's pete's attorney. he said that they recently received the documents to complete the fbi background check. that was very smart. paul's been through that process more than i have. i've gone through it once. it's a very detailed process. they're going to spend weeks and months looking into his background, and we'll see what comes out. but in terms of actual raw

strategy, i think this is the best decision that an advisor can give to the president elect. and i'm glad the president elect is following it. let's see what happens. allow pete the space to defend himself. but let's not put you out there so that those political arrows, if you will, are coming in our direction. >> shermichael is time on this side here or not you know john, i was just looking at some watches before we went live time is on no one's side in this particular incident. >> look, you want to joni ernst to come out and say, i'm absolutely behind pete now to pete's credit, she sort of left the door open but the question becomes, if you're a part of pete's team, that that inner circle, if you're the sherpa, the guy that sort of or gal that's walking pete around, all of those senators and having those private meetings can you buy another week? can you buy another two weeks? that certainly helps. but christmas is coming, so can you potentially push it to christmas? senators go on break pretty soon. that's certainly all is in his interest. but i would say the clock is ticking

paul, does this get to a hearing no, no. >> i hope it gets to an fbi background check. because when you speak to. i'm sure michael's right. i've been through them and so is he. when you speak to the fbi, you have to tell the truth. if you don't, you run into my good friend 18 us code 1001, which is a felony to lie to the fbi. mr. hegseth says that that these many accusations of really appalling conduct are untrue. okay, okay maybe. so let's get everybody under oath. let's get them in front of the fbi. if if we if it gets that far, get him in a committee hearing. where they'll have to swear to tell the truth. and that's not going to go well for pete hegseth. i could be wrong maybe everybody is lying about this wonderful guy. um, but, you know maybe not. maybe these allegations have really disgusting behavior. are true. and so the fbi will will suss that out. >> the lawyer does say, tim parlatore does say that pete hegseth has begun filling out that fbi background check. so

we will see if it is completed and turned in and whatnot. all right. how do you feel about preemptive pardons? shermichael gerald ford did it for richard nixon. the white house people within the white house, i should say. apparently having discussions about pardoning individuals they fear might be targeted in the incoming trump administration. what would the impact of that be? sure, michael yeah. >> gerald ford, george h.w. bush, i believe during the iran-contra scandal. paul, you know more about that. i wasn't even born yet. so that was unnecessary. i get it, because these are these are examples, john, though, of people that have been alleged of doing something wrong, the belief at the time was in the case of nixon that maybe charges would potentially come. so the president decided, look, this is in the best interest of the country. i think the differentiator here, however, is these folks haven't even been alleged of having done anything illegal. and so i just really question if we sort of open this pandora's box, do we just say,

well, any president at any time in history can say, well, hey, my buddy, i'm just going to go ahead and pardon them because once i leave, i don't want my political adversaries to potentially do something that's damaging. i'm just very skeptical of this. it's one thing if someone's been alleged of something, it's another thing if they've been found guilty they've served time. maybe they didn't serve time. sure, give a pardon. i'm in support of that. but just to give pardon just because we think something may happen, i just don't support that that's a lot of executive authority. and power that i think goes beyond the pale for my personal comfort john, particularly as a conservative, we need some limitations with the pardon power. >> all right just again, one more warning. you know, i wasn't even born yet. not at my table. you're not dropping that again here, shermichael. but, paul, the pure politics of it. paul the pure politics of it. good bad politics. the idea of these preemptive pardons oh, i don't think. >> i don't think it has a huge political effect one way or the other. the problem here in the unprecedented thing, and i go back much earlier than i remember actually talking to

president benjamin harrison about this when i was ted budd, um what's unprecedented is the preemptive indictment effective the man who's about to control the most awesome prosecutorial apparatus in the world has already named names. he said this in the campaign. if you elect me, i'm going to go after and he named names liz cheney general mark milley, a four star general. his own chairman of the joint chiefs of staff he, of course, threatened kamala harris and joe biden and hillary everybody. so that's why these are necessary. i want joe biden to do it. and politics be, he's not running for anything else anymore. they'll all do a lot better politically than the pardon of mr. biden's son so yes, it's because mr. trump has pledged that he will abuse our prosecutorial apparatus to go after his political adversaries, and that's unconscionable. so yeah biden ought to protect those men and women who are i think, heroes. >> all right, paul mcallister, michael singleton, thanks so

much for being here we i can't i can't let the kid back in. you wouldn't believe. you wouldn't believe what's being hurled in my ear now. sure, michael. and those are kate's hands to my neck. all right, paul shermichael. thank you. >> i see them, i see them thank you guys all in love. >> all in love i could now be utilized to measure bias in the next news article that you read, the biotech billionaire who owns the los angeles times says that he plans to implement an ai bias meter on news articles in his publication. he says it will help give readers both sides of the story but journalists working for that paper are pushing back. the union representing them says with this move, their boss is publicly suggesting his own staffers harbor bias without offering evidence. cnn's hadas gold has much more on this, and there are tons of questions about this. how does this work and what is the real impact of it? >> i mean, that's one of the biggest questions, because we don't actually know many details about how this will work. >> doctor patrick soon-shiong made this announcement actually

on a podcast with cnn's own scott jennings, who he has invited to join the la times editorial board. >> part of this push to add more conservative voices to the l.a. times. >> all we know so far is what he said on this podcast. >> he said. somebody could understand as they read it that the source of the article has some level of bias, and what we need to do is not have what we call confirmation bias, and then that story automatically, the reader can press a button and get both sides of that exact same story based on the story, and then give comments. now first of all, a lot of questions. what he's assuming from the get go from this statement is that the story itself will not be showing multiple sides of a story, which most journalists, when they're doing their level, best to show an entire story. they are showing both sides of the story. they are getting quotes and comments from all sides of the story. there's also a lot of questions about what will this ai be, what metrics will it use, what sort of large language model will it be using? because as we know ai systems themselves can be biased. so what will this system be? what will it look like? a lot of questions. now this is all part of the mounting changes. we've seen. doctor patrick soon-shiong

institute at the paper that he's owned since 2018. it started when, of course, he blocked the editorial board from their planned endorsement of vice president kamala harris. that led to several resignations at the paper. it morphed into him totally wanting to revamp the opinion pages he's inviting more conservative voices saying he wants to bring balance, bring trust back to the newspaper. now we know that prior to publishing opinion pieces, those headlines must go to him personally to be approved. i've never really heard of that happening at another newspaper where an owner, especially somebody like a billionaire owner who has a lot of other businesses, wants to personally approve headlines on opinion pieces and now we're seeing this bias meter on the story and interesting if you're following his social media presence, which a lot of the journalists at the la times are, he has wholeheartedly endorsed a lot of the nominees that president trump has put forward endorse. you know some of his policies that he's put forward the la times union, as you noted, has said that this bias meter is publicly suggesting that his staff harbors bias without offering evidence or examples. we've

seen some resignations from the paper. more resignations. and i've heard from la times journalists a lot of concern. you know this guy was once seen as the savior of the la times, and now they're very concerned of what the future of the la times could look like i mean, so many questions. >> this is great reporting please stay on top of this. and one of the people who has resigned from the la times will be joining us later in the show. thank you so much, john. >> all right. groundbreaking new study reveals that lead exposure may have been the cause of more than 150 million cases of mental illness in the united states and it is the end of the eras era what can fans expect next as taylor swift wraps up her record breaking world tour you need to calm down. >> you've been too loud

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what? >> you know, you can't explain. >> for years jeffrey peterson, a former it guy, has been running the matrix groove show. >> welcome back to the big show where the truth is learned. >> it's never told. it's a show devoted to all things qanon. >> if you think qanon is bad, you're believing the mainstream news. >> deciphering the cryptic codes from q and trying to figure out the deep state and the cabal and everything else. this is q post 1828. this is the the spy op. and the reason we're here is because he has had as a guest on his show kash patel, who might become the next fbi director. >> kash is on the show today. >> let's bring him in right now. >> you guys are the best. >> i love being on your program. patel has dipped his toe into this qanon world a bit over the years, has flirted with it on truth social. there's a q account whether or not it's real. q i'm not going to get into. >> are you a q like so.

>> no. >> so like everything else, you have to have fun with it. the q thing is a movement. a lot of people attach themselves to it. i disagree with a lot of what that movement says but i agree with what a lot of that movement says the qanon movement has long been associated with radicalization and hate, and qanon iconography was seen throughout the january 6th mob. >> is that donie o'sullivan, who has posted how many times? 4967 times. q posted about kash patel. yes twice and said kashyap kash patel a name to remember. >> q has been so right on so many things. i'll get off that subject. no, he has. >> and i agree with you. he has he has. and you got to take a you got to harness that following that, that q has garnered and just sort of tweak it a little bit. that's all i'm saying. he should get credit for all the things he has accomplished because it's hard to establish a movement. >> who is q? i don't know. q says it's ten people, three nonmilitary, less than ten. we don't know. i see people trying to say that kash is cute. you

can't prove that. i can't prove that. for a lot of people kash patel engaging in the world of q and qanon at all. they'll say, well that's disqualifying, but what you're going to find out is that we have a mandate in america, and we want the fbi cleaned. you know, 99% of the fbi is good you know, but there's a 1% that is not good. the anonymous q persona hasn't posted in a few years, but the world of qanon is still very real for people like jeffrey. news unlocks with the q posts are like, you know, like, for example kashyap kash patel a name to remember. kash patel has just been nominated as the fbi director right? that's a q proof, what we call. couldn't i just say, well, q is posted 5000 times. he just posted a name like, yeah, you can absolutely say that. and, uh but what about all the other names in our interview? jeffrey made it very clear that he condemns violence. he's not a fan of the proud boys, oath keepers or other groups that conspired to cause violence on

january 6th. i always say, you know, we're not going to make fun of liberals because we're going to be here for them when they wake up. but there is a lot of portrayal of democrats, of people on the left of being evil. yeah do you think they're evil? not all of them, no. do i think there are some yes. like hillary clinton maybe. i don't know. as for kash patel, jeffrey and other qanon influencers welcome him as the country's top law enforcement officer. i think the american people will be happy that kash patel is going to straighten out what they've done to president donald j. trump and the fbi, and i think america should be happy as well. and a spokesperson for the trump transition dismissed any links between qanon and kash patel and described our story as a pathetic attempt at guilt by association. >> kate doherty great reporting. reporting as always, john. >> all right. this morning the fbi looking into drones spotted flying in new jersey over

critical installations the creepy part is not that it's just a drone that they're so large they look like a small car to me. >> they're their wingspans are probably six feet across. >> new jersey police chief says drones have been reported flying over water reservoirs. electric transmission lines, rail stations, police departments and military installations. anyone caught flying drones over restricted areas like this could get hit with a $75,000 fine. >> kate, i think be hard to hide a drone that's the size of a car. it's crazy. a groundbreaking new study reveals exposure to leaded gasoline may have contributed to more than 150 million mental health diagnoses in the united states. cars ran on gas containing lead for decades starting in the 1920s. and now scientists believe the exhaust fumes may be linked to anxiety depression and adhd in older generations. cnn's meg tirrell has much more on this. this is

fascinating, meg. tell us more yeah, kate. >> so we know that lead was added to gasoline between 1923 and 1996, in the united states. >> we started to learn about some of the health impacts even before it was phased out finally in the 90s. >> and we know that lead has terrible impacts on the brain, and this has been linked to lower iq. >> for example, in previous studies but what this study did was take estimates of blood lead levels from leaded gasoline exposure and car exhaust from everybody back through the decades. >> and then paired that with what's known about the connection between blood lead levels and mental health diagnoses. >> and they use that to make this estimate of more than 150 million excess mental health diagnoses that can be attributable to early childhood lead exposure and so we are talking about things like depression and anxiety, adhd but they say also sort of milder impacts that can still negatively impact people's lives. >> this increase in what they call neuroticism, a lack of