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because the first couple of days we were here, the streets were pretty subdued. >> there was a lot of anxiety and today we're really seeing people are out and they are celebrating. take a look behind me. all these young people, they are celebrating. they are posing for photographs, holding up their babies to show with rebel fighters. and i actually wanted to bring in i've just been talking here with this young syrian woman, judith tell me how this movie feels as you can. >> is this working? >> yes, it's working as you can see, this is 50 years of silence. this is the action of 50 years. >> he kept us in the dark. he kept us in the death this is the reaction of the syrian people after 50 years of this regime of this death, of this darkness. this is the new generation that will come out to the light now, this is the
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reaction. does it feel for you? >> for me, as a 25 years old daughter, this is my father and this is my mother this is this is unspeakable reaction. >> this is me coming to the light again it's the rebirth of the syrian people again. >> did you ever imagine after 14 years? >> no, no no, no no. for me, it's been 13 years for my dad it's been 50 years. >> when you see look behind you, you see rebel fighters with their technicals, with their big weapons. >> this is this is victory. this is the the this is the happiness i have never witnessed before. i've been living 13 years in war in death, in darkness and this is amazing. this is unspeakable. actually, this is here. you can see the the the breath of freedom this is absolutely amazing this is i hope we can do more this is this is only the beginning.
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this. it has to be a mess in the beginning. but i'm sure we can do something more and more in the future. thank you so much, judith and it really is sort of wonderful, honestly, to hear that kind of optimism, because as i mentioned, those first couple of days, those first few days, a lot of tension, a lot of anxiety, some chaos and looting in the beginning. >> now that there is a degree of calm and control in the city, you are seeing people come out and finally, just this outpouring of jubilation after more than 50 years under the totalitarian regime, totalitarian regime of bashar al-assad and hafez al assad, his father before him after 14 years of the most brutal and ugly civil war, these people want the world to know that syria is free and is beginning a new chapter. kate and for that woman, 25 years old, to be able to say that to you publicly in front of a camera,
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in front of a microphone, without fear of what would happen to her and her family from the assad regime, is just such a statement of how it all changed overnight. >> i mean, it's just been days, clarissa, talk about what you've seen in the days you've been there. i mean just last hour you were in a warehouse in front of the luxury vehicles of bashar al-assad, just showing kind of this. you called it the root of the rot that has happened in that country that's right. >> kate. i mean, the corruption that we saw in the presidential palace compound that we just visited, there was astonishing. while people in syria were starving, were being bombed, were being killed, were being tortured he was living in lavish opulence with huge garages full of luxury cars. i'm just pointing over here and i don't know if we can get it at all. it's probably a bit tough without a tripod but cameraman scott mcwhinnie, if you can see we're in umayyad
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central damascus, umayyad square on the top of that monument, you can see one individual who has been waving a flag, and i think you can also see what's interesting kate, is the mixture of people we're seeing here. we are definitely seeing some rebel fighters who are clearly islamist. we are also seeing young women who are not wearing headscarves. and the question will be how long can this woman last? how long can this honeymoon period last? there are so many challenges ahead. >> so many concerns about things that could go wrong. but for this one, the syrian people we are talking to are saying just let us have this moment just let us enjoy this moment because we have never been able to come out and celebrate and speak our minds on the streets without fear of being shot or imprisoned or tortured. >> and there is something kind of magical about that. despite
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all the anxiety about what will come next and so many challenges ahead, that's that's without you know, that's an understatement, right? >> but to be able to have even a modicum of hope is what you're seeing a sliver of jubilation is something that was not possible just days ago it's so important that you are on the ground you and scott mcwhinnie one of the best in the business. thank you so much clarissa. sincerely appreciate it. and your continued reporting. thank you so much got big news. we're at the top of the hour. let's begin with this as well. other big story that we're watching today a suspected killer. now in custody. a manhunt now over. and this morning we are waiting to learn when police will extradite the man that they believe murdered unitedhealthcare ceo brian thompson. just under a week ago in new york. so right now here's what we know. 26 year old luigi mangione he is in custody in pennsylvania. police say he was arrested at a mcdonald's about 300 miles
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from the site the scene of the crime, the site of the killing after a mcdonald's patron and employee recognized him. and this morning, the investigation continues into a possible motive. what is known, though, right now a 3-d printed ghost gun, several fake ids, $8,000 in cash, and a three page handwritten manifesto were found on him. cnn's brynn gingras has much more on everything that came out overnight. brian, what more are you learning about this suspect? >> yeah, i mean even friends and family members at this point are wondering what happened here. >> i mean, this is a person luigi mangione who grew up extremely privileged, went to some of the best schools in this country comes from a very prominent maryland family. and if you look at his social media footprint, we really found someone who loved to travel, loved to hang out with friends, was most recently living in hawaii in a co-living space and was head of the book club there. loved to hike, but then about, you know this summer it starts to sort of go away. we see you know, messages where
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mangione is tagged, where people are worried about him wondering sort of where he went that his family was worried someone actually commented, you know, are you going to honor your rsvp to my wedding? so it does seem that he sort of trailed off. the big question is what happened? right. that is what investigators are trying to answer at this point, as far as a motive is concerned, we do glean a little bit more from his social media. there is a picture on his x account of a spinal x ray essentially with some hardware in it, and we learned from someone who was with him in that co-living space in hawaii that he did undergo some chronic back pain and possibly surgery. after a surfing lesson this person said that he was bedridden for about a week and we wonder possibly, was there some sort of vendetta against the health care industry, though there is nothing there that sort of points exactly to thompson, the victim in this case, or unitedhealthcare in general. i do want you to hear from this
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person that we talked to with the co-living space to give more about the conversations they once had i know we talked about social issues and we talked about how to improve the world, and we talked about, you know issues that are, you know say with capitalism or with the health care system or with housing or the food systems. >> it wasn't, you know anything specific. >> it wasn't like he had an ax to grind or he was even upset or angry about a particular issue. >> they were just natural, intellectual conversations that you have when you're inquisitive yeah. >> and a reddit account that appears to be mangione does talk about also lyme disease dealing with brain fog, saying that the health care industry really didn't understand brain fog. so again, these are all sort of things that investigators certainly have scrubbed at this point are and looking into themselves for their own investigation. i do want to share a statement that was released from the mangione family. it says our family is shocked and devastated by luigi's arrest. we offer prayers to the family of brian thompson and we ask people to
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pray for all involved. certainly we will find out more about mangione and of course all the charges we know that he now faces and when he will return to new york kate brinton thank you so much. >> really appreciate it, john. >> all right with us now is former fbi special agent and a professor at john jay college of criminal justice, david shapiro. professor thank you so much for being with us. so this suspect was kind of off the grid, you know, missing for months before this shooting took place. what does that tell you? >> it tells me with hindsight that he was planning this for a while. there were certain preparatory steps here that would have taken a lot of time getting new identities. perhaps making a gun. these things don't happen overnight. >> and so you have that fact coupled with now the writings in these other postings. what does that tell you about his mindset? >> well, from his perspective, he might have viewed this as sort of a noble cause, corrupt
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act. that is, the ends justify the means. certainly others wouldn't interpret it in the same way but it's not. it's not hard to understand what he was thinking. it's more difficult to accept it. >> yeah. look, i mean, as we all know, it goes without saying. back pain is not a justification for murder. and people with back pain don't go out and kill. so something else was going on right here when he was asked during apprehension if he had been in new york recently. the reports are he started shaking immediately. you're smiling. >> yeah, well, you know, i don't think there are many things more terrifying than getting stopped and questioned by the police. i don't think many of us are prepared for that. he wasn't a hardened criminal and it would have taken nerves of steel to to approach that with tranquility. >> do you think he thought he was going to get away with it? >> no i think part of his m.o. would have been to be discovered and to become a sort of quasi adverse celebrity like
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ted kaczynski. >> well, of course, in one of the things that we're learning is he had writings like literally writings about ted kaczynski there. so that's a link that he apparently wanted to make there. what questions do you still have that are unanswered? >> well interestingly, i don't know whether he's a stupid criminal or whether he was planning to commit more terroristic acts because holding on to the gun, the manuscript, the fake ids, any any, well, astute criminal would have deposited all that in central park or wherever, but not held on to them so it leads me to believe that maybe he had another use for these items. yeah he had not discarded the gun, as you said that is certainly notable. >> i wonder what lessons can be learned here because on the one hand, there is some remarkable police work and use of technology that combined to catch him. on the other hand, he did get out of new york city. >> well, mr. berman, that's a great question. but when you look at it from a certain distance, a stranger to
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stranger killing in new york city, right no, no apparent motive he's caught within a week right? i think that's pretty good when you consider the high tech involved the facial recognition technology the creating fake ids, the gun perhaps made and the low technology of the video surveillance and photographs, as well as essentially here human intelligence of somebody actually saying, hey, i know that dude. >> i saw his photo. i mean that's the old, old fashioned police work right there. have you seen this man? someone at mcdonald's said yeah, yeah, i have. all right. professor, great to see you this morning. thanks so much for your help on this. >> mr. berman, thank you for having me. >> all right kate. >> red flag warnings in effect for over 12 million people across southern california as a wildfire there just exploded in size overnight. also, this is ahead. health experts are tracking an outbreak of bird flu, potentially linked to raw milk. doctor sanjay gupta is here to answer your questions about all of that. and actor jamie foxx revealing for the first time what actually happened during the medical
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>> our power went out and then we got a call from a roommate saying that there was a pretty large fire. and so i ran down the hall grabbed a couple of the friends that i knew lived closest to me, and we kind of made a game plan to head to the library so that fire has now burned more than 1800 acres. >> it is 0% contained at this moment. let's get back over to cnn's derek van dam, who's tracking this and where it's headed. how it's going. what are you seeing? >> yeah. at its height last night, overnight, this thing exploded in growth. it consumed over five and a half football fields per minute with this explosive fire. that was so hot that it was actually altering the weather, allowing for these flames to bend in towards the flames. kind of consuming itself. that was just incredible to see some of the descriptions from the national weather service coming out of los angeles. there's some aerial video of it. you can see the extent of the evacuation warnings that are in place here across ventura county and into
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los angeles county. but let's center in towards malibu. here is pepperdine university. this is the malibu canyon road, and we focused a lot of our attention just to its east, because that's where we saw the rapid growth overnight. when winds were gusting over 50mph. but then we started to see the spot fires approach. pepperdine university. and at one stage, according to university officials, there were actually helicopters getting water from this alumni park. you can see some of the local lakes here within the pepperdine university area, taking the water, helping extinguish the flames but notice this this is the pacific coast highway, highway one. it jumped the highway and approached the coastline. the good news here is that it's running out of room to burn, because it's going to reach the coastline any time now. and there was also some reports earlier that the malibu pier were actually impacted are structures near the malibu pier. so something we're going to monitor once we see first daylight, which by the way, we believe climatologically speaking, the santa ana winds have a pick up in wind speed as we get towards daybreak. so
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we're anticipating stronger winds as we head towards around 645 pacific time, when the sun actually rises. so look at the university students sheltering in place here at the library on campus, here in pepperdine university. and they could see flames from their windows. that is a concerning sight for anyone on the ground, certainly. but this is just some of the statistics coming out of this that burned, consumed, get this five and a half football fields a minute that's roughly one football field per 11 seconds of rapid erratic fire growth. we've got this particularly dangerous fire situation that is very rare to be issued by the national weather service. last time this was issued was in november when the mountain fire caused so much problems in ventura county. now, this is all thanks to the relatively low humidity values anytime we get winds gusting over 75mph with the stronger santa ana wind events, we lower the humidity levels and we see this just filter through the canyons and head towards the coastline and cause this rapid fire
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growth. it is a terrifying moment for these residents. and guess what? we still have several hours to go. critical fire conditions through wednesday. >> okay, all right. going to be keeping close to this one. thank you. so much derick. appreciate it john. >> all right. let's get the very latest from the ground. with us now is a student at pepperdine university gabrielle salgado i can see i think you're still in the library there. why don't you tell me what's going on at this moment yeah. >> that's correct. i'm still here in the library. we're still under shelter in place. orders but right now, students are asleep and we're awaiting our breakfast. that will be served soon. >> and gabrielle, we're showing people photos images that you took. i have to say, they're incredible images. the sky's on fire outside of where you are right now at pepperdine university i mean, what's it been like for you overnight i mean, it has definitely been a stressful and very tiring night. >> i mean my power went out
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around 11:15 p.m. and as soon as the power went out, i knew it was because of a fire, just because we were under a red flag warning. um, and so i called my friends, found whatever friends i had in the same residential hall as me, and i just packed a bag. and as soon as things start to get started, to get really stressful, i made my way down to my shelter in place order, which is the library and students here were very stressed because of finals, but also because we look out the window and you know, the sky is red. >> i mean having gone to college, albeit a long time ago, there's not much more stressful than finals. it's hard to think of anything that could be more stressful except maybe everything being on fire outside your window. so when you saw this, when you took that amazing picture of, just again, the sky on fire there, what was going through your head i mean, i was just really thinking about what was going to happen if the fire was going to get close to campus, if it was going to touch campus. >> i was thinking about my
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friends that live through malibu canyon and have apartments over there. um, and i was also thinking about finals. i mean, i had a final. we're supposed to have a final at 730 this morning um, and i have another final tomorrow. so that was obviously my on my mind because i knew i had to study. i had to get certain presentations done. um, so it was just a mixture of emotions. >> well, i think finals have been canceled now um, which is one side effect. i'm sure you'll have to cancel it for today the canceled for today um, well, that's something at least you have a full day to study for the next ones what do you think will happen over the next 24 hours? >> well, hopefully we'll be out of shelter in place. um and really just slowly getting back to a normal life here at pepperdine. of course, it's not going to be normal, because when we look outside, we're just going to see the beautiful green mountainsides now burnt um, but just getting back into a
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rhythm. and then we're going on winter break soon so going home and, um spending time with family i'm sure it has just been an incredible night there in the library, not the night of studying. >> you imagined gabrielle salgado we're glad you're safe. the conditions, i know. look, a little hairy over the next 24 hours. so please, you and your friends stay well. we appreciate you being with us all right, cnn, getting an exclusive look inside the presidential palace that was once the home of bashar al-assad a remarkable look inside the home of one of the most brutal dictators on earth including our reporter standing in front of rows and rows of luxury cars that this man held while his millions of people were suffering and new information about the killing of the unitedhealthcare ceo, the reaction around the country might not be what you expect
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is what clarissa told us. >> we are actually here in one of several garages belonging to bashar al assad. we are on the compound of the presidential palace, and you can see this is a man who had expensive tastes. we've seen aston martins, we've got lamborghinis, we've got ferraris. i want to add, as well that we've been walking through this compound. there are many garages. we were just in a lot where there were dozens and dozens of armored cars, if you can believe that. i don't know how anyone would need so many armored cars. and i'm bringing you over here because you can see this collection of classic cars over here. and the reason this is all significant, john, the reason that we're we're talking about this, that we're showing you this is because really, this is indicative of the deep, deep corruption of the assad regime, which is a big part of
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why this whole uprising started in the first place. back in 2011. bashar al-assad had been ruling for some years his father for many decades before and the levels of corruption and greed the opulence and the lavish lifestyle when so many syrians were struggling to put food on the table you imagine, john, the last 14 years syrians have been under bombardment. they've been tortured maimed, kidnaped, killed and meanwhile, bashar al assad was living literally like a king with garages full of cars, with palaces with incredible mosaics and marble and we actually watched in the presidential palace some ordinary people who managed to sneak in, walking around with their jaws dropped. they could not believe how he was living
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at a time when syria was suffering so acutely and so this really is a metaphor for for the root of the rot for where it all started and what it really means. the spirit of this syrian uprising. obviously, we're not going to sugarcoat it. there is a lot of anxiety in this moment. there is a lot of anxiety about the makeup of rebel forces about whether there will be chaos whether there will be strict islamic law. and so it's not that everybody is out in the streets celebrating, but most syrians are united in finding these displays of wealth and opulence truly sickening. and indicative of the sickness of the assad regime that is the great reporting and the view from on the ground from cnn's clarissa ward. >> let's talk now more about the implications of all of it with cnn's jim sciutto, who is joining us right now. and also right now kind of encapsulated in all of this jim, is the
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question of how are these rebel factions going to form a working government, and what is it going to look like? how important is this? >> it's a fair question. you know, just a brief thought watching clarissa in that basement. there you know, none of these leaders are creative, right? i mean i feel like we've been in the garages of saddam hussein gadhafi, et cetera.. so it's the same scene right? people who have such disdain leaders who have such disdain for their people, they steal from them, live these opulent lives while their people are suffering and actually worse, right? while they're killing their own people. anyway, that image just so familiar as we watch it there in terms of these groups, it was interesting to watch that transition yesterday between the former prime minister bashar al-assad's prime minister, now exiled, sitting down with the leader of the rebel group there in a calm conversation on those formal chairs handing over power in what looked on the surface like a peaceful transition of power. but of course it wasn't. i mean, this was the result of
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military action as those rebels took over the country and bashar al assad's forces dissolved and disappeared, the question going forward is can they maintain this as at least not being a bloody transition right. and for now bts is showing to the world or attempting to show to the world that it does not intend to have that kind of transition going forward. right. um including making contact with countries and, and leaders and officials around the world. but we have to remember, this is a rebel group and a rebel group that developed from the nusra front, which was an al qaeda tied organization. so one of many fighting groups in that country. and and none of those fighting groups have disappeared except assad's forces they're still there, gunning for power, right? including the forces that the u.s. backs in the northeastern part of syria. the kurds, and none of the outside players
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have lost their interest in the country either. turkey, for instance, in the north, um, russia and iran, they're pushed back, but they still have interests there. so the question is how if you can get those folks around the table to discuss some plan going forward? that's a big question mark. mark, kate and listen, israel syria has settled these differences over the last. well, more than a decade on the battlefield. so the transition would be to get those differences settled, not on the battlefield, but at the negotiating table. that's a that's a tall order. >> and just i mean, in this a very tall order and just maybe one element of it and how the u.s. approaches it, this kind of contributes to is the state department on monday said that it's not actively reviewing the foreign terrorist organization designation on that main syrian rebel group that that took out, um that overthrew bashar al-assad over the weekend, not actively
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reviewing is one is one thing, but how that changes in the future is another thing. yeah. >> you know it's interesting. matt miller, the state department spokesman said not actively reviewing when asked this question, but he didn't close the door. and this phrasing caught my attention. he said there is no specific review related to what happened over in syria. we are always reviewing our sanctions posture with entities based on their actions. so when entities take different actions, of course there can be a change in our sanctions. what he's basically saying is if tz changes the way it operates, they're at least open to that question right? making no promises here and we should note that tz has at least been trying to do just that, right as it's taken over areas in syria with, for instance, religious minorities, including christians it has deliberately said you can live
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your lives the way you want to. we're not going to force you to do anything to say in effect, that we're not the group we used to be. now the proof will be in the pudding going forward. whether they can demonstrate that that is real and lasting change. that's another tall order. but the u.s. at least leaving the door open there. yeah. >> leaving the door open with a little like ball is in your court, right? show us, show us, show us in deeds not just words, if you will. and then on on monday, you have israel saying that it struck syria's chemical weapons capabilities. it also moved troops into that buffer zone that separates the golan heights from the rest of syria. um, in the midst of israel facing obvious threats from all other, you know, all of his other borders what what do you see in this? this seems a very tenuous moment for any of this to be happening for the region. >> well, israel is trying to get rid of all of syria's weapons right? as best it can, not just chemical weapons aircraft, et cetera. so it says it doesn't fall into the hands
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of the rebels. and by the way, the u.s. has been striking isis targets as well and i have to tell you, i think there are probably a lot of folks who don't mind. right they might not say it publicly. what israel is doing in terms of destroying those weapons, taking territory, though permanently annexing territory not by international agreement is a different story. and that is the one that i think you're going to see more opposition going forward. >> that's a good point, jim. it's great to see you. thanks for coming on, buddy. really appreciate it. thanks. so the fda has updated the risk level of the recall of a widely prescribed antidepressant. the concerns that it could be contaminated with a cancer causing chemical. we have much more on that. and tiktok executives are throwing a hail mary in court if you will, hoping. hoping that the incoming trump administration will help prevent it from being banned in the u.s. >> welcome to times square that's not my wife. >> she is
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on another front. the war crimes that russian president vladimir putin is accused of, including deliberate attacks against civilian targets and hospitals, as well as hundreds of cases of sexual assault committed by putin's army. now, joining us right now is one of the leading ukrainian human rights activists oleksandra matviichuk is the head of the center for civil liberties in ukraine, a human rights organization received the 2022 nobel peace prize. oleksandra, thank you so much for being here and you are in washington to push on this front to raise awareness, meet with members of congress, the biden administration and incoming trump administration officials to remind talk about russian war crimes. let's separate all of them and take them in pieces. what are you hearing first from members of congress and in this moment, as we have seen, a growing sentiment in the republican majority to begin pulling back aid to ukraine i'm here to tell
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about horrible atrocities which russia committed in ukraine daily and people are shocked because i told about forcibly deported children who were put in russian reeducation camp told that they are not ukrainian, that they are russian children. >> their parents refused from them and they will be forced to be adopted by russian families who will bring them up as russians. i also said them about religious persecutions in occupied territories like case of father stepan podolchak, who was took barefooted with a bag on his head, and after two days the russians told his wife that stepan podolchak was dead. they tortured the father, stepan podolchak to death only because he refused to transfer his church to russian patriarchy that you say that when you speak with members of congress, they are shocked to hear about this. >> but these the atrocities and the accusations of war crimes. this is not new. this is
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something that you and others have been raising since the war began really? i mean, what is your takeaway then from meeting meetings with incoming members of the trump administration? >> i'm sure that we have break the circle of impunity, which russia enjoyed for decades because russia committed horrible crimes in chechnya, in moldova, in georgia, in mali, in libya, in syria, in other countries of the world russia has never been punished and that is why russia believes they can do whatever they want and now we have historical change to implement justice donald trump has said that he can bring about an immediate ceasefire in ukraine once he takes office. >> and just on sunday, he said he was actively working to end the war and that he would be open to reducing military aid to ukraine and pulling the united states out of nato. from your unique perspective what is your reaction to that ceasefire it's the first logical step to peace, but we need sustainable
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peace and russia wants to occupy and destroy ukraine and even more, they want to forcibly doesn't refuse of his goal for this moment. >> and that is why it's very important in all peace processes and negotiation to design a real security guarantees, which make this goal not just to postpone it but to make this goal impossible to achieve. for putin. >> one of you mentioned one of the elements of the war crimes that i know i've been tracking really closely is, well it is all atrocious, but one of them is the kidnaping of innocent ukrainian children. and there have been efforts of trying to find those children, trying to get them back with their families, trying to help them through what they have suffered through. can you give me an update on what is the latest on that front? how is that going? >> it's very sensitive problem
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for ukrainian society because russia ignore all provisions of international law and all decisions of international organizations and that is why, while ukrainian official identify approximately 20,000 of ukrainian children who were illegally deported, only approximately 500, we managed to return back. and the problem is that we have no time because according to russian legislation, these children and russian adoptive family can provide to these children a new name. they can change not just a date of birth, but place of birth and even having the parents, even having the families, if the children is two years old or three years old, after some time it's impossible to identify where these children are in the huge russian federation you've been featured in i was taking note of. >> i think it's a multi-million
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dollar ad campaign to and correct me if i'm describing it, the wrong way, but it seems to bring these atrocities to the attention once again of the american people for americans who believe that the united states should pull back on their support of ukraine for americans who say and we heard it during the presidential campaign that the united states has already given so much money and so much aid to ukraine. it's no longer in the in us interest. what is your message to them? >> first, i would like to express my sincere gratitude from the bottom of my heart for american people, for your solidarity and support in this dramatic time of ukrainian history. because we are fighting for freedom and we are fighting for freedom, not just for ourselves people whom i interviewed who survived from russian captivity told me that russians see their future like this. that first will occupy ukraine and then together with
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you we will go to conquer another countries and process of forcible mobilization of ukrainians to russian army all these years is going on in occupied territories. so to be clear, ukrainians are fighting not just for ourselves. we are fighting for the international order which was established after the second world war, which means that with our fight we are preventing the third one. >> alexander. thank you very much for coming on. >> thank you. >> thank you. coming up for us here's a quote for you. i don't remember 20 days jamie foxx now sharing details about the medical emergency that he survived last year. we have more from him coming up. and the u.s. department of agriculture says it will now begin testing unpasteurized milk amid growing concerns of bird flu contamination. doctor sanjay gupta has has answers for your your questions about the outbreak. that's coming up
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doctor sanjay gupta on call, brought to you by the u.s. >> department of health and human services. >> risk less, do more campaign reminding you to get this season's flu and covid 19 vaccines. >> go to cnn.com. doctor gupta on call or scan the qr code to ask your question. this week happening now. >> health officials across the country are monitoring an ongoing outbreak of bird flu in dairy cattle. dozens of cases, mostly among farm workers, have put a spotlight on the safety of the nation's milk supply. now, the government plans to test unpasteurized milk across the country to get a better sense of how the virus is circulating. cnn chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta. he's on call and joins us this morning. you know, you hear something like this and the obvious question is how concerned should people be about getting sick from drinking this milk yeah. >> so the good news is, i
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don't think most people should be concerned at all because 99% of our milk supply is pasteurized. >> so, you know we're really talking about raw milk here in particular, which is becoming increasingly a thing when you pasteurized milk, it basically means you're heating it up to at least 161 degrees for at least 15 seconds. >> that's sort of the standard protocol. >> if you don't do that, there's all sorts of different pathogens that could be in the milk. e coli, salmonella listeria, and now h5n1. just to give you a little context, john, about 1% of the country drinks raw milk at least once a week. >> there is some, you know kind of evidence that maybe it provides bioactive ingredients although the scientific evidence around that is not really clear. and you can get a lot of those bioactive ingredients in other ways without subjecting yourself to unpasteurized milk. what we do know is that there's been a lot of outbreaks associated with raw milk over the last 20 years, some 200, some outbreaks
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2600 illnesses, 228 hospitalizations. so we do know that and that is why, as you said, given the concern about h5n1 in particular there's going to be this new testing. it's going to start next week. it's going to be at dairy farms across the country. john so you covered a major outbreak of bird flu back in 2006, when you were 14. >> give us a sense of what that outbreak taught us and what it might mean for this current situation. we're in i'm in my mid 50s now. >> john, i don't know. i don't know if you know that. >> so i don't believe has passed but you know one thing. >> the reason people get sort of very concerned about h5n1 is because let me show you this graph. so i was in indonesia back in 2006. this was in the midst of a significant bird flu outbreak. and there have been bird flu outbreaks over time. there's the one from 2006. so
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that was 2003 to 2009. you know john, the orange is the number of cases. red is the number of deaths. so if you add up all of that since 2003, over the last 20 years, mortality around this virus is around 50%. the numbers are small, but the mortality overall is high. now, if you look at that graph even more closely, you can see that over time, the number of cases has come down and the mortality risk has come down as well. so that's good news. but this is still, you know, one of those viruses that people epidemiologists certainly pay a lot of attention to all over the world. in the united states, what we've really been talking about is since march, i think that's when this really hit people's radar screen here you had a detected in dairy farms in texas, and then you sort of look at these points in time. there was the first case of a human becoming sick. the first case of a human becoming sick with no known exposure, and then detected in pigs just about a month and a half ago so these are the points in time that epidemiologists are paying attention to. again, the good
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news is most milk is pasteurized. so it's not going to be a concern for most people and importantly, there's been no evidence of human to human transmission. you remember when we were talking about covid, john those points in time is this transmitting human to human that's a big concern. we're not seeing that, thankfully, with h5n1. >> no, but obvious why it is something we want to monitor very closely. doctor sanjay gupta, my fellow aarp member, thank you very much for being with us. and you can head over to cnn. com to submit your questions on the bird flu outbreak. sanjay will be back later this week to answer these questions. all right new this morning, the fda is recalling the antidepressant duloxetine sold under the brand name cymbalta over concerns of contamination with a toxic chemical. more than two no. 200,000 bottles of the drug were recalled from a new jersey plant last month due to the presence of a chemical that is toxic if swallowed and is suspected of causing cancer. the recalled drugs have been
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labeled as class two risk by the fda. that is the second most extreme risk. this morning, the clock is ticking on one of the country's most popular apps, bytedance. the chinese parent company of tiktok, is asking an appeals court to temporarily block a law that would force them to sell tiktok by january 19th or get banned in the united states. the supreme court is set to review the ban and could issue a ruling on that. so jamie foxx is speaking out for the first time about the mysterious illness that forced his hospitalization last year and a netflix comedy special. he revealed he had a brain, brain bleed that led to a stroke. foxx says he does not remember 20 days he spent in the hospital, but he does recall waking up in a wheelchair and not being able to walk. that's terrifying. he also remembered jokingly saying, jamie foxx, don't get strokes. a 35 foot christmas tree in west palm beach florida. that's actually made of
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